2-Shripal, re. How to deal with Sani Grief, as Sani is Retrograde & moving through the gap, > Mark Kincaid

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Hi,

 

You are exactly right,when you force your to calm down

and time will pass,try to involve yourself into

something new which you never,frusration will

creep,and you will not like at all,But it

works,aftersometime when you have passed through ,you

have a smile on a face,a way it is today morning.

 

As in my chart saturn is of 29:56 Degrees in Leo and

that too retro,that was a main reason,which was

causing grief.Real satrun experience and to tackle

satrun is to be like Satrun,than there is no grief at

all.As saturn is planet of calmnes,slowness,deep

thinker and long visuallizer.So if you can make

yourself calm and pace starts picking up

automatically.You are back on track and Life has

become again beautiful.

 

So what I have understood is,which ever planet is

giving you grief,embedded your qualities within

yourself,so you will never realize when you were in

and when you came out and You are still with the

world.

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear Shripal:

>

> Your experience is a more typical experience then

> one might think.

>

> It helps emmensely first, knowing 'where'

> Astrologically such an experience

> might be coming.

> For example, is the experience coming in conjunction

> with the transits, or

> along with the timing of our dasas.

>

> Once we've answered this question, we begin to have

> a clue how long this

> might be going on.

>

> Secondly, and even more importantly, identifing the

> Planet that is probably

> causing us 'this' or any particular grief is even

> more vital.

>

> In your case, I think you're right that Saturn's

> probably causing this

> experience.

>

> The normal way that people deal with so-called,

> 'negatives' in Jyotish, is

> to take a deep breath, and try and weather 'it' till

> it's done; like a

> thunder storm.

>

> But, there's another approach which I think is even

> more important.

>

> This is like you were saying, 'try and adjust to the

> particular needs of

> this Planet'.

>

> And though you said: "thousand time I have tried to

> make myself calm, it is

> not working

> as it used to be", .....

>

> I still think this is the part especially relating

> to our free will, to keep

> working the transformative aspect of Jyotish to make

> any planet more

> benefic.

>

> For example, for months and even years, when I first

> started studying

> Jyotish, I noticed every month, around the New

> Moons, feeling extremely

> rough, and there was this feeling that I'd never be

> able to improve it.

>

> Every month, when the Moon got the most small, I'd

> feel lost, sad, lonely

> and depressed.

>

> Well, I understood 'it' in terms of my chart, but I

> was so interested in

> improving 'that' situation.

>

> Over time I discovered that this Waxing/Waning Moon

> situation was like a

> huge cycle of rest and activity.

>

> And, like going to bed at night, depending upon how

> well rested I had been

> at night, that would determine the success during

> the next day; then, I

> started to notice that the Waning Moon cycle was all

> about turning inward

> and was in fact this huge rest cycle.

>

> As I innocently started following that, soon, I

> started to notice that that

> intense grief of the past, started to subside, and

> then, it even started to

> be more pleasurable, and now, today, I enjoy the

> inwardness of the Waning

> Moon part almost as much as the Full Moon!

>

> So,.... like this, when we discover still, being

> thrown off by such Saturn

> experiences, or really 'any' Jyotish configurations,

> we can look at it in a

> different way, as Nature showing us, how in-tune we

> are with this Planet.

>

> So, keep persisting, keep emphasizing the 'calming'

> quality. Especially in

> regards to this, Ayurved,Jyotish&Yoga group, this is

> a good opportunity to

> see if you can't find the Saturn, beneficness, of

> even this Retrograde,

> Sani, in the gap!

>

> Knowing that 'this' is caused by this relative

> Astrological 'happening'

> ultimately, is a positive thing, because the

> uncertainty that most people

> might be experiencing, is replaced by at least some

> partial knowingness.

>

> Maybe also, right now, maybe you've been working too

> hard, and perhaps,

> you're experiencing this Sani, R, gap, 'thing'

> because you're less rested

> then normal.

>

> But, for whatever the reason, keep putting attention

> on the restful aspects

> of 'rest', 'meditation',

> 'pranayama'.....

>

> Have you ever heard of this great Yoga breathing

> technique?

>

> It's usually recommended right before meditation,

> but it can be used, on

> it's own, like now, when there's a particularly

> unsettled quality.

>

> Let me know if you need personal instruction in this

> breathing technique.

>

>

> Good luck, and thanks for sharing your experience.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>

> Shripal <d_shripal

> AyurvedJyotishYoga

> Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:24:37 -0800 (PST)

> AyurvedJyotishYoga

> Cc: m.kincaid

> Re: [AyurvedJyotishYoga] (WAAG) Week At

> A Glance Tue. January

> 11th - Mon. 17th, 2005!.......& Special Astrology

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>

>

> Hi Mark,

>

> You very correct,since last 5 or odd days,I am going

> through a very terible face of Life,I have never

> experienced this like before.Very unsettlement is

> there in mind with various things in Life.Reason I

> don't know and that has never happened ever.Mostly

> because of saturn is in Gap.Thousand time I have

> tried

> to make myself calm,it is not working as it used to

> be.But some how manageble.

>

> Also may be currently all planets are favouring for

> creating such a situation.I hope this will pass by

> soon,very smoothly.

>

>

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>

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> > Tuesday, January 11th - Monday, January 17th .....

> > 2005

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > General Highlights, This Week: Tue. Jan. 11 -

> > 17th....

> >

> >

> >

> > Waxing Moon Cycle begins, now, from 1/10 -

> > 1/17/2005, Very good time, to

> > 'do',

> > 'move', expend energy, accomplish and focus.

> >

> > Culminates in Full Moon on 1/25th....

> >

> >

> > Sun still in Sagittarius, Sun finishes it's yearly

> > romp through Sagittarius,

> > so

> > enjoy the last few days of 'Jupiterish', wisdom,

> > opportunity.

> >

> > Sun moves into Capricorn, 1/13th,...late in

> day....

> > Capricorn is such a

> > different energy then, Sagittarius. Good next

> > month, for focusing on the

> > World. As Capricorn represents 'materialism',

> it's

> > a good climate to work

> > on the World.

> >

> > Take the Wisdoms that you gleamed this last

> > Sagittarius month, and focus on

> > utilizing them, in the World during Capricorn.

> >

> > Mars is still in it's Own Sign Scorpio,...Very

> good

> > time, to 'do' or 'to

> > act',

> > or to 'accomplish'. Just be sure the intensity of

> > Marishness, is anchored

> > in what is right or just, and don't use this time,

> > to flow in the malefic

> > side of Mars.....

> >

> > How to tell when we're getting imbalanced even in

> a

> > very 'good' benefic Mars

> > period, like now?

> >

> > You'll have accidents, cuts, little burns, all

> > indicative of moving or

> > pushing too hard or fast! Or, you'll have

> > disagreements, arguements,

> > fights, etc.

> >

> > Good time though to stand up for something that's

> > right, and maybe something

> > that's been difficult to face in the past!

> >

> > As Mars stands for convictions and ideals...

> >

> > Mars is in Scorpio from Dec. 16th - January

> > 28th....2005

> >

> > Now, 1/11th - 17th....Mars goes from 17th to the

> > 21st degrees of Scorpio.

> >

> > Mars is still very strong and powerful in these

> > degrees, so cease the day!

> >

> > After that, will be a time to begin waning on this

> > intensity of Scorpioness!

> >

> >

> > Saturn's Retrograde, Motion, now...still

> > Saturn is still hovering in the gap of Cancer &

> > Gemini.

> >

> > There's much that's been written about

> 'retrograde'

> > stage of Planets.

> >

> > Most agree that 'the' Planet' Retrograde is less

> > powerful.

> >

> > Which could be positive if 'that' certain planet

> has

> > been acting

> > malifically.

> >

> > From the 11th to the 17th,...Sani, slowly inches

> > backwards from the 00:08

> > minute of 1st degree Cancer,... to the 29:36

> degree

> > of Gemini.

> >

> > Don't end up doing too much during this time, as

> > that's part of the stress,

> > symbolism of Saturn in Gemini, sometimes.

> >

> > Saturn, as it's moving into what Jyotish calls

> > 'sandhi', which means through

> > the gap... between 2 signs...

> >

> > It also acts more irregularily....

> >

> > So, be aware if you're not being patient enough,

> or

> > taking enough time, for

> > some endeavor!

> >

> > This may be because Sani's kind of hidden in the

> > gap.

> >

> > The way you'll be able to tell, is you get sick,

> > having ignored the signs of

> > increasing out of balanceness, or big

> > disappointments, let downs,

> > frustrations, 'all',....indicate.... a lack of

> > Saturn, wisdom about the

> > timing of things...

> >

> > If any of this happens, take a deep breath, and

> > breathe in,....more Saturn,

> > wisdom!

> >

> >

> >

> > Next Full Moon! - January 25th 2005.......So,

> > 'full', Full Moon, isn't for

> > another, 2 weeks, so that'll give 2 powerful weeks

> > of 'waxingness'!

> >

> > enjoy

> >

> >

> >

> > Tuesday, 1/11/05.... Moon's at the 13th degree of

> > Capricorn..

> >

> > Last few days, Moon was kind of rough, first going

> > through Scorpio, and

> > especially, where Mars, presently, is, and then,

> > Sagittarius, New Moon, on

> > Sunday and Monday, and also being aspected by

> > Saturn, too!

> >

> > Now, begins the more positive, often, Waxing

> cycle,

> > and Moon, also moving

> > away

> > from strong negative, or the malefic aspects....

> >

> > There is one aspect goings on today, and tomorrow

> > and that's Jupiter's!

> >

> > Jupiter is still in Virgo, so from there, moving

> > through it's 5th house

> > aspect, counting, Virgo as #1, go, Virgo, Libra,

> > Scorpio, Sagittarius, &

> > Capricorn, as #5!

> >

> > means you'll feel strong, good, benefic luck,

> grace,

> > faith, and 'nature'

> > support!

> >

> >

> >

> > Wednesday 1/12/05..... Moon starts off the day at

> > the 28th degree of

> > Capricorn.

> >

> > So, you'll find Jupiter's strongest aspect from

> > Virgo, begin to end today.

> >

> > Well, 2 degrees left means 4 more hours of it, and

> > after that Moon moves

> > into Aquarius.

> >

> > Take advantage of this uniquely mysterious, and

> > creative Aquarian, next 2

> > 1/2 days either in your personal life or business.

> >

> > Aquarius, sees the unconventionally creative ways

> to

> > do things, so good

> > creative time!

> >

> > W: One slight thing to watch or be 'warned'

> about,

> > is today, Venus &

> > Mercury are both at the 9th degree of Sagittarius.

> >

> > Fortunately, they're both positive, benefic

> forces,

> > but! being so close

> > means you might find it difficult to think clearly

> > or emotions and feelings,

> > over shadow and confuse clarity of thinking!

> >

> > So, if you're finding this, then, take more time,

> to

> > think unemotionally and

> > 'feel' more whole heartily!

> >

> >

> >

> > Thursday, 1/13th...... Moon starts off the day at

> > the 13th degree of

> > Aquarius

> >

> > Re-read yesterday's description of this passage

> > through Aquarius.

> >

> > Saturn finally, moves back into Gemini today!

> >

> > Because most people are presently experiencing

> what

> > is called the

> > functionally malefic side of Sani, watch and be

> > careful, wherever your

> > Gemini is!

> >

> > This sign and house, will indicative where Saturn

> > issues will be playing out

> > now for awhile.....

> >

> > Enjoy the bigger Moon, now, and the good, Mars

> > energy though!, too

> >

> > This is important since Saturn remains in Gemini,

> > from today, till May 26th,

> > of 2005!

> >

> >

> >

> > Friday, 1/14th........Moon begins at the 27th

> degree

> > of Aquarius, today.

> >

> > Aquairus, finishing and Pisces energy beginning.

> >

> > Next 2 1/2 days, good time, to reflect on how

> you've

> > been doing this entire

> > last Month cycle.

> >

> > Pisces represents the end of the Zodiac, therefore

> > conclusions,

> > accomplishments, and enjoying the fruits and

> > fulfillments of cycles, is good

> > use of time, during this 2 1/2 day Piscian period!

> >

> > Ketu & Mars both aspect Pisces this Month & year,

> so

> > be aware of these 2

> > potentially, negative influences, as well.

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturday, January 15th..... Moon begins the day at

> > the 11th degree of

> > Pisces.

> >

> >

> > Re-read yesterday's Pisces description. You may

> > begin to feel Mars'

> > influence now, and tomorrow, as Mars is running

> the

> > 20th degree of Scorpio.

> >

> > This means you'll begin to feel Mars' 4th house

> > aspect today, culminating in

> > tomorrow, as well!

> >

> > Use this time, to do, but not to be too rough.

> >

> >

> > Sunday, 1/9th.... Moon starts off the day at the

> > 24th degree of Pisces.

> >

> >

> > This means 6 more degrees, or 12 more hours of

> > Pisces. Mars' 20th degree

> > aspect now, will begin to wane, so that'll be

> good.

> >

> > Good day, then, to rest, to reflect, and prepare

> for

> > new Monday, and new

> > Aries, energy coming tomorrow!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Monday, 1/17th... Moon begins at the 7th degree

> of

> > Aries, today.

> >

> > Moon moves directly across the path of Rahu, now,

> or

> > even last nite.

> >

> > Try and go to bed, early yesterday and today, so

> the

> > negative 'Rahuish'

> > effect will be minimum.

> >

> > Lots of people complain they have very rough bad,

> > dreams during Moon/Rahu

> > times!

> >

> > Moon moving into Aries, will begin the Monthly

> cycle

> > all over again.

> >

> > Good energy to begin today, a Monday.

> >

> > However, be aware, all week, and all Month, that

> > inspite of all these, doing

> > energies, Mars in Scorpio, Waxing Moon

> > cycle,...etc....

> >

> > we are after all, in the heighth of the Saturn,

> > Winter time.

> >

> > This time is the major period of rest,

> rejuvenation

> > and recuperation.

> >

> > This is the best time, to work on one's health,

> > one's fitness, and one's

> > mental and Psychological well being.

> >

> > Extra reflections, meditations, and longer periods

> > of reflection are

> > HIGHLIGHTED!

> >

> > Look at Nature, how still, and restful it looks.

> >

> > Try and be, more, with Nature, and being more

> > in-tune, imbibe, more deep

> > SILENCE, quiet bliss and Wisdom!

> >

> > These are all the positive signs and symbolisms of

> > Saturn, which when we let

> > into our lives, turns Saturn's maleficness into

> > opportunities, of growth and

> > progress through patience, silence, and balance!

> >

> >

> > Have a wonderful Week!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > End of the Week's...reflections...

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> > JAI GURU!

> >

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