Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Hi, Know from ages,when lots of things use to take at a mental level or you can frame it as spiritual level has been converted to more and more into materialistic technologies.For example previous people use to co-ordinate through mind(talking through mind) and know we have internet and mobiles.People use to fly or disappear,I don't know How much this holds truth,But today we have aeroplanes and jets etc. as in Kaliyuga is called a Yuga of Rahu and Ketu so powers of there has come into picture.That is a main reason rather than becoming more just spiritual,people are becoming materialistic and materialistic spiritual.Which is not at all spiritual. Old Days guru just by meditating can find a distance b/w earth and moon etc.what kind of planets are those. Now even people are meditating to calm themselves and make there materialistic life more easier,even that is not working very well.So people have forgot a basics of spiritualism. Ideal theme of Spiritualism is not to heal people or help people,But too live this world of sorrow and live behind your footsteps through which other people can follow.I am not saying that you should not help other etc.But aim should be that,so study a Gurus or Shastra properly and understand there path of salvation and create your own. Rahu and Ketu are trying too signify that theme each and everyone daily,But as we say it's Maya,a Unresolved Mystery in which only trueones will able to understand and leave a WORLD OF SORROW. --- kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: > > Dear Maniv, > > Surely, 'norms' change with time, retaining their > main idea, varying > in applications. Otherwise dictum like > 'if planets exalted A,B are in 4th or 11th one gets > elephants, horses > and chariots...' would prove astrology wrong! > As norms change, elephants, horses and chariots are > replaced with > bull-dozers,trucks,buses and cars and these are > accepted truths. Well, its good that you checked > D-10 charts of > Yogis, but if I could make a suggestion, Dashamsha > or D-10 chart deals with 'Materialistic' persuit and > the division > dealing with Spiritual success is Vimshamsha(D-20). > > Hope you get some clues from that too, as to why > ancestors compared > nodes with Sat/Mar. > > yours humbly > KAD > > > > , "maniv78" > <maniv78> > wrote: > > > > Kadji; > > > > My post was an expansion on the message that > challenged the old > > dictum that we are also familiar with. I do not > consider this to be > > the only factor when assessing the impact of the > Nodes but did find > > the logic more digestible that Mars is like Rahu > and Saturn like > > Ketu that Shripalji put forward. > > > > I agree that our 'ancestors' established this > principle after a > > level of study which we can only dream of aspiring > too; bit I also > > feel that such ambiguous theories do not remain > static and they may > > evolve with time. Centuries ago, in an environment > where the > > majority of the population was spiritually > inclined and the popular > > culture was Vedic, Rahu's energy of > drive/passion/desire would have > > been directed to mostly spiritual pursuits while > Ketu's energy may > > have led one astray to black magic or to withdraw > from spiritual > > activities which then were the 'norm'. Ketu in > this age still > > withdraws one from the 'norm' but that 'norm' has > changed to > > materialism which may explain Ketu's spiritual > dimension. This is > by > > no means a rigid proposition; just a simple > suggestion as to why > > this rule may have been set out as it was. > > > > I can not say with certainly that Rahu does not > lead to Moksh and > > Ketu to aggression,(many contributing > factors/energies effect such > > significations) but I have observed in the charts > of the great > > spiritualists (Sivananda, Swaminarayan > ,Ramkrishana etc) and > > religiously inclined individuals - especially the > Dasamsa - > > patterns that much my above statements. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Maniv > > , > "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maniv, > > > > > > I do not advise to stick on to the principle > 'Rahu like Saturn > and > > > Kethu like Mars' but I do think that it was > coined after > > > an extensive study of the planets, obviously by > much more > > experienced > > > ancestors and I don't think that they would do > it SIMPLY > > > LIKE THAT, without much study. Whether one gets > success, involves > > > many factors and not only dictums, whatever may > be the number > > > of charts one has looked at. Rather than > comparing shadow planets > > to > > > other planets, I would humbly place them > separately to > > > judge the chart. Otherwise, we are losing > enormous amount of > > > information they reveal, by themselves and as > occupants. > > > > > > > > > About nodes and Sat/Mar in your post, small > doubt is - Are you > > sure > > > Rahu does not lead to Spiritualism/Moksha? > > > Are you sure Kethu does not make one attached or > aggressive like > > > Mars? Or does that mean that you have not found > > > success using classical dictums?..just curious! > > > > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > , > "maniv78" <maniv78> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I must agree with this point. I have struggled > invariably when > > > > applying the dictum that Ketu is like Mars and > Rahu like Saturn > > in > > > > my experiences with countless charts. > > > > > > > > We all know that: > > > > > > > > Saturn makes one detached, introspective and > seperative; > > > > Ketu makes one introverted, psychic and > 'weird'; > > > > Mars makes one aggressive, active and dynamic; > > > > Rahu makes one opportunistic, violent and > loaded with excessive > > > > desires; > > > > > > > > And that Ketu is commonly placed in the signs > that signify > > satwic > > > > tendencies (Pisces /Capricorn/ Sagittarius) in > the charts of > > great > > > > spiritualists. Rahu's opposite placement in > materialistic signs > > > > (Virgo/Cancer (mildly)/Gemini) in these > configurations clearly > > > > indicate its disconnection with satwic > inclinations which is > > more > > > in > > > > line with nature of Mars then that of Saturn. > > > > > > > > Thus a logical conclusion with the above in > mind would be that > > > > Saturn is in fact more like Ketu and Mars like > Rahu. Of course, > > > Mars > > > > does have similarities with Ketu (technical > faculties, > > intensity); > > > > and Saturn with Rahu (addictions, vices); but > they fail to form > > > > conclusive parallels when considering the key > significations. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > P.S. Tanvirji, your very personal reaction to > Mukund's post, > > (which > > > > was not aimed at you initially) has > depreciated my respect for > > you > > > > greatly. Your response was clearly driven by > an urge to > > demonstrate > > > > your superior knowledge, qualify the drawbacks > of Islam by > > > > disqualifying certain aspects of Hinduism and > the ego created > by > > > > your status as owner of this group. > > > > No one participating on this board is > irrational enough to > > believe > > > > that Muslims as a whole are terrorists; > general statements > about > > > > religious groups/castes/races never have > substance. However the > > > > indisputable fact remains that the majority of > terrorist > > activity > > > is > > > > carried out by groups that come under the > banner of Islam. > Maybe > > > > it's politically incorrect to make such > statements; but why > > should > > > > the truth not be objectively assessed? > > > > I realize that this is board for discussions > on Jyotish and > > related > > > > spiritualism so I apologize for lengthening > this thread. If you > > had > > > > warned Mukundji politely and then subsequently > ignored his > > reaction > > > > to your allegations about his character then > perhaps this line > > of > > > > debate could have been avoided altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > , > "maniv78" > > <maniv78> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , > Shripal > > <d_shripal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify,you must be knowing Jup+ > Ketu gives us > > > > > > a spiritual Inclination.You you have > analysed several > > > > > > charts ,you will also find,people who are > having > > > > > > Jup+Sat are also spritually inclined.Have > you ever > > > > > > heard Jup+ Mars give a spiritual > inclination,than Ketu > > > > > > like Mars holds false. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's forget about this too,Forget about > myth too,know > > > > > > since ages astrology has changed a lot > and be > > > > > > practical. > > > > > > > > > > > > So know even Jaataka is not wrong.What I > said was > > > > > > malefic part,Let me tell you benefic > part.If ketu is > > > > > > Good ,it act like Mars and If Rahu is Bad > it act like > > > > > > Saturn,that's what you are saying.What I > am saying is > > > > > > very practical,Isn't it?.Try yourself in > diff > > > > > > charts,you will come to know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadow planets don't have aspect,even 7th > aspect is > > > > > > not there.But they influence various > houses in > > > > > > chart,because bottom line they are shadow > planets.What > > > > > > is shadow.All materialistic things which > exists in > > > > > > this world we always have a shadow.So > planets squaring > > > > > > it up,aspecting, or some how connected > with > > > > > > planets,there shadows are reflected on > other > > > > > > house,That's how they get a good and bad > results of > > > > > > that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till now I have been hearing 'SHANIVAD > RAHU - > > > > > > > KUJAVAT KETHU'[Rahu > > > > > > > like Saturn and Kethu like Mars] > principle from > > > > > > > JAATAKA > > > > > > > texts whereas TAAJIKA/TAAJAKA groups > both the nodes > > > > > > > similar to SATURN > > > > > > > [....sheShamanyat ca MANDAVAT...(Prs > Mrg.)]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature of > > > > > > > Saturn,that's > > > > > > > >why is makes one suffer too much,in > order to divert > > > > > > > >him towards Spirituality.while Rahu > takes benefic > > > > > > > >nature of Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am eager to know which text supports > the above > > > > > > > statement, as I have > > > > > > > not heard of this MYTH till now. > > > > > > > If you could share some PRACTICAL > examples(charts) > > > > > > > with the group > > > > > > > using THIS principle, it would be better > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yours humbly, > > > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Shripal > > > > > > > <d_shripal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article contains almost all qualities > of Rahu and > > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > as individual and every word retun is > true in all > > > > > > > > respect.Something addition to that.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are both unsatisfied > soul,which are > > > > > > > > striving for Moksha.As they are even > known as a > > > > > > > Shadow > > > > > > > > planets.Shadow of each and everything > which exist > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > materialistic in this world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder why GOds never had a shadow,as > they are > > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > souls from deception of Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature > of > > > > > > > Saturn,that's > > > > > > > > why is makes one suffer too much,in > order to > > > > > > > divert > > > > > > > > him towards Spirituality.while Rahu > takes benefic > > > > > > > > nature of Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu casts a favorable, fortunate, > cheerful, > > > > > > > > affectionate, expansive, optimistic > and popular > > > > > > > > influence over the affairs of the > house in which > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > falls, brings out the more positive > potentials of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sign in which it is placed, and > favours the > > > > > > > functions > > > > > > > > and energies signified by any planets > or points to > > > > > > > > which it forms a conjunction or > harmonious aspect > > > > > > > > (with the Moon especially bringing > benefit and > > > > > > > gains). > > > > > > > > The Ketu, casts a malefic, harmful > influence upon, > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > brings binding, delaying or impeding > restrictions > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > obligations in relation to the affairs > of the > > > > > > > house it > > > > > > > > occupies; brings out the more negative > potentials > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the sign in which it is posited and > disfavours > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > in conjuction or inharmonious aspect > with it (the > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > particularly bringing losses and > troubles). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But other look of this Moon Node's > Rahu and Ketu > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > relating to one's subconscious > Attachment vs > > > > > > > Conscious > > > > > > > > growth.Ketu represents subconscious > motivations > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > stem from the past and to which there > is an inner > > > > > > > > inclination to cling although they may > no longer > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > relevant or appropriate to the > individual's > > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > and prospects, while the Rahu > represents conscious > > > > > > > > motivations relevant to the present > and future, > > > > > > > > characterised by a desire for the > unfoldment of > > > > > > > > appropriate changes in personal > psychology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu indicates capabilities and > faculties > > > > > > > inherited > > > > > > > > from former incarnations or 'past > lives', while > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Rahu shows the ideal direction for > > > > > > > self-development in > > > > > > > > the current incarnation in order to > attain > > > > > > > ultimate > > > > > > > > spiritual fulfilment and the > successful > > > > > > > realisation of > > > > > > > > one's pre-chosen evolutionary goals > from this > > > > > > > > lifetime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever any thought why Two are > there(Rahu and Ketu) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > not only one of them exist.That too > they are > > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > > to each other all the time and > retograting.I am > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > talking in terms of there technical > > > > > > > existence.Reason > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Ketu principles are not to be > completely > > > > > > > overthrown > > > > > > > > and discarded, but rather kept in > harmonious > > > > > > > balance > > > > > > > > with those of the Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is regarded as a goal of new > growth the > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > for which is a dimly illuminated > struggle. > > > > > > > Harmonious > > > > > > > > aspects and benefic conjunctions to > the Rahu will > > > > > > > > indicate relatively easy progress > along the > > > > > > > journey > > > > > > > > towards this goal, while inharmonious > aspects and > > > > > > > > malefic conjunctions will indicate > difficulties. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > individual will frequently, on > encountering > > > > > > > obstacles, > > > > > > > > be consciously inclined to give up and > return to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > safety of the Ketu, through weakness > of resolve > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > than through absolute force or > obligation. But as > > > > > > > > always with stressful aspects, the > ultimate > > > > > > > rewards of > > > > > > > > achievement can be greater and more > spiritually > > > > > > > > satisfying than would be attained by > an easy > > > > > > > passage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspects to the nodes, both natally and > by transit > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > progression, show the manner in which > the > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > towards the Rahu goals will be worked > out. > > > > > > > > Conjunctions to the Rahu induce forced > growth; > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > those to the Ketu encourage > conditioned responses. > > > > > > > > Squares accentuate the conflict of > interest > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > the nodes, and pull the individual > towards the > > > > > > > sign > > > > > > > > and house placement of the squared > planet.It > > > > > > > creates a > > > > > > > > tension for a individual in there > growth. > > > > > > > Quincunxes > > > > > > > > to the Rahu show a misperceieved > notion of the > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > to attain growth. Sextiles bring > opportunities for > > > > > > > > constructive growth, while trines > bring easy > > > > > > > > growth.That you all must be knowing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will soon be coming with Article > Nodes in > > > > > > > > Synastry.Detail explanation about our > interaction > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > daily life materialistic objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- yogita purohit > <yogitapurohit> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to put forth an article > of Rahu > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > have among my collection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Jyotish, the ancient astrological > system of > > > > > > > > > India, the lunar nodes are major > points in natal > > > > > > > > > chart and are closely looked at, > especially in > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > transit movements through the birth > chart. As > > > > > > > > > opposed to Western astrological > systems which > > > > > > > tends > > > > > > > > > to view nodes as favourable > influences, Jyotish > > > > > > > > > regards the lunar nodes as malefic > forces, > > > > > > > > > responsible for chronic diseases, > loss, > > > > > > > sufferings, > > > > > > > > > "fatedEcataclysmic events and other > maladies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In western astrology there is a > strong tendency > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > view the lunar nodes as something to > do with > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > > karma—the accumulated lesson's of > one past > > > > > > > lives. In > > > > > > > > > this view, popularized by such > authors as Martin > > > > > > > > > Schulman of Karmic Astrology series, > the north > > > > > > > nde > > > > > > > > > represents what we should be > striving towards in > > > > > > > > > this life time, a sort of karmic > goal for us to > > > > > > > > > reach. The south node is viewed as > the past that > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > need to hold behind and not hold > onto. > > > > > > > Proponents of > > > > > > > > > this view contend, that by looking > at the sign > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > house placements of the nodes, one's > karmic past > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > destiny can be ascertained. > Curiously nodes are > > > > > > > > > given rather strong importance in > natal chart > > > > > > > > > interpretation, but are seldom > looked at closely > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > transit analysis of the here and now > of one's > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Uranian and Cosmobiological > system of > > > > > > > > > Germany, the nodes are interpreted > as having a > > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > to do with interpersonal > relationships, rather > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > karma. Alfred Witte founder of the > Uranian > > > > > > > > > astrological system strongly > propounded this > > > > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > The nodes were regarded as key in > determining > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > social the person was and, as > opposed to the > > > > > > > > > American view, looked in at the > transit > > > > > > > analysis. > > > > > > > > > Aspects from the nodes to other > planet would > > > > > > > > > indicate where and what nature one's > > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > > would be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Vedic astrological system, > however, while the > > > > > > > > > nodes may have something to do with > one's karma > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > may involve relationships with > others, they are > > > > > > > > > inherently viewed as evil cosmic > influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know about the story of > origin of Rahu > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > how separation of Rahu and ketu > occured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, Rahu had managed to > taste and > > > > > > > swallow > > > > > > > > > the amrita just before the > dismemberment and > > > > > > > > > therefore was unable to be killed. > Because of > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > immortality Rahu and Ketu exists > eternally in > > > > > > > > > heavens. Due to it's exposure by sun > and moon, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > nodes are sworn enemies of those 2 > planets, > > > > > > > hence > > > > > > > > > the darkening of Sun and Moon during > solar and > > > > > > > lunar > > > > > > > > > eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAHU—THE ROLLER COASTER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As can be deduced from the origin or > story of > > > > > > > rahu , > > > > > > > > > that rahu is an excellent liar as it > was able to > > > > > > > > > deceive even the gods, if only > temporarily. In > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Vedic system, the north node, rahu > has rulership > > > > > > > > > over con artists, liars, illusions > and cheats, > > > > > > > Since > > > > > > > > > rahu is only the head and part of > the body of an > > > > > > > > > immortal demon it is always > constantly hungy, > > > > > > > > > whatever food eaten never reaches > the whole body > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > rahu is only head and mouth. And > because of this > > > > > > > > > rahu is viewed as insatiable > material desires . > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > matter how much it gets it always > wants more and > > > > > > > > > because of this rahu is closely > associated with > > > > > > > > > addictions and obsessive/compulsive > behaviour > > > > > > > > > patterns. Accordingly rahu rules > poisons, drugs, > > > > > > > > > alcoholism, addicts, compulsive > gambling, sex > > > > > > > > > addiction, and pleasure seeking. > Rahu also rules > > > > > > > > > worries, paranoia and irrational > fears. Because > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > is demon and inheetely evil it also > has domain > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > sufferings in general, especially > chronic > > > > > > > diseases > > > > > > > > > and events that are sudden and seem > fated and > > > > > > > > > tragic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Rahu had the audacity to > impersonate a > > > > > > > god, > > > > > > > > > at a considerable risk to itself( a > gamble which > > > > > > > > > eventually was lost by demon body > leading to > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > separation). Rahu is associated with > reckless > > > > > > > > > behaviour and of taking chances. > Rahu can make > > > > > > > > > people do things they otherwise > would not by > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > them throw caution to wind and > thinking that > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > can get away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A final lesson to be gleaned from > the vedic myth > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that Rahu's gains are always > temporary. In the > > > > > > > myth > > > > > > > > > rahu did manage to deceive gods for > a while, but > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > found at the end and suffered for > it. Likewise, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > well placd in one's chart, rahu may > give > > > > > > > material > > > > > > > > > success, drive, fame and ambition, > but these > > > > > > > gifts > > > > > > > > > are fleeting and temporary. It is a > virtual > > > > > > > axiom in > > > > > > > > > Jyotish that whatever is gained with > rahu's > > > > > > > > > influence will eventually flitter > away and be > > > > > > > lost. > > > > > > > > > One of the great lesson rahu teaches > is this : > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > can't take it with you .The moment > you think > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > you have attained lasting success > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the material world is exactly the > moment when > > > > > > > > > rahu will take away that success, > leaving you > > > > > > > hungry > > > > > > > > > for what you lost and you cannot > have it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KETU—THE CRUEL ONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu is the headless body of rahu > called as > > > > > > > dragon's > > > > > > > > > tail. Astrologically ketu is exact > opposite of > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > Whereas rahu is pure physicality and > materialism > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > ketu is pure spirituality and > non-materiality. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > this respect ketu acts like Neptune. > But ketu's > > > > > > > > > spirituality comes with heavy price > tag. It is > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > all, a half of demon. Ketu brings > spirituality > > > > > > > onto > > > > > > > > > people by making them suffer. It is > almost as if > > > > > > > > > ketu creates many disasters in a > person's life, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > no one has choice but to turn to > divine for help > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > solace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since ketu is non-physical and > non-material, > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > influence creates denial and > sometimes > > > > > > > abandonment. > > > > > > > > > For example, a person with Ketu > closely conjunct > > > > > > > > > midpoint of the 4th house of the > mother will > > > > > > > > > typically report that their mother > was > > > > > > > emotionally > > > > > > > > > or physically unavailable when the > person was > > > > > > > > > growing up. Ketu can be very mystic, > occult, > > > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > > > and intuitive, but it can also bring > with it > > > > > > > > > isolation, loss, misery and abuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the key things to be aware of > with ketu > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that it rules diseases of unknown > origin (like > > > > > > > > > cancer, multiple sclerosis, > parkinson's etc.,)or > > > > > > > > > disease that can get misdiagonised > or mistreated > > > > > > > > > this is because of ketu's hidden, > mysterious > > > > > > > > > quality. It can be most insidious > influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the article given above I > would also > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > to mention certain more points on > the nodes > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > come across while studying different > horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is usually seen and also > mentioned in the > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > given above rahu and ketu are > unsatisfied nodes. > > > > > > > E.g > > > > > > > > > for this I would like to mention > here is that I > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > working as an astrologer with a very > reputed > > > > > > > > > businessman of Mumbai who was > filthy rich and > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > having all materialistic pleasures > of life he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > unsatisfied and that age (his age is > near about > > > > > > > > > 55-60) he use to often complain > about having > > > > > > > > > dissatisfied physical relationship > with his > > > > > > > wife, he > > > > > > > > > felt still there is something > lacking to make > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > more popular world wide, he had past > broken > > > > > > > affair > > > > > > > > > and at this age too he was longing a > > > > > > > companionship > > > > > > > > > with young females. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Studying his horoscope it was seen > that his was > > > > > > > > > Taurus asc. With Rahu in it and > ketu- guru in > > > > > > > > > scorpio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although rahu did not give him > disturbed or > > > > > > > broken > > > > > > > > > marriage life he is still with wife > may be due > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > presence of Jupiter in 7th could be > saving point > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > his marital life (here I want group > member to > > > > > > > > > discuss what would have made him > save his > > > > > > > marriage) > > > > > > > > > but he has grudges against his wife. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, the second point I have seen is > Mars and > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > mostly in 7th and 5th houses in > horoscopes > > > > > > > > > (irrespective of signs placed) have > given those > > > > > > > > > native questionable characters and > sometimes > > > > > > > even to > > > > > > > > > the extent of satisfying their > physical desires > > > > > > > > > before marriage and afterwards > getting separated > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > married elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What points in this planetary > combinations gives > > > > > > > > > such effects does Mars has something > to do with > > > > > > > > > character of person apart from it > hot qualities > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > rashness, arroagancy, forceful > energy drives > > > > > > > etc., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would welcome points or discussion > from Rupji > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > respected members of the group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal > page ETry > > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > "Love is friendship set to music." > > > > > > > > "Love conquers all." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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