Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hi, 1)sun squares Rahu,so Rahu is aspecting Sun 75% and afflicting sun very much.So addiction to drugs and not in good terms father. 2)Mars in 7th House,so aspecting ascendant and 1oth House Karma where Saturn is sitting,That is a reason you hadbeen into Army or I can say in other words lead a life,way army people are living. 3)Ketu in 12th makes a person to go through hardest of his time and sufering till he divert himself to hospitality of other and spiritualism.It's a Karmic placement for Rahu. 4)Even saturn and Mars square shown lots of accidents and up.downs in life.Life is like a living hell when ketu start giving bad results. --- astynaz <astynaz wrote: > > > Thank you very for your insights, Shripal. They are > greatly > appreciated by me. I agree with 100 percent on what > you said. > Transiting Saturn was conjuncting my Ketu in 12th > when I was in > mainstream kindergarten and in special ed with the > mentally retarded > in 1st grade. At that time period, my mother married > my stepfather. > That was long bad marriage. They got divorced in > 1991. My mother also > had cervical cancer crises at the time. Transiting > Saturn was > conjunct her 5th/12th house lord Venus in 2nd. I > feel that is why she > experienced bad crap at the same time with me. > > > Man....it seems like Ketu in 12th really sucks...I > thought it was one > of those "Damn....why me,God....I feel like I am > cursed" placements. > heheheeh That's how I felt throughout my life. > Studying my Vedic > Astrology chart and reading my Vedic Astrology > report really gave me > insight to what my karma is. > > > I didn't know that you can use square aspects by > Rahu and Ketu. I > never read that anywhere,but I suspected that Rahu > and Ketu squaring > my Sun can indicate why I loss my mother and his > drug addictive > personality. My Sun is in Swati which is ruled by > Rahu,and that can > be an indicator. My father was extremely sensitive > and intense > person,and he had a violent temper too. So Mars > aspecting my Sun in > 3rd house makes sense. > > > Do you use moon as the ascendant too? I have > debiliated Sun in > 9th,and that could indicate problems with father. > With Ketu square > the Sun in 9th, it can definitely be loss of father. > With Rahu square > the Sun in 9th,a father with addiction problems. > > > Both my parents had substance abuse issues,and I > feel that could > because both my Moon and Sun are in nakshastra ruled > by Rahu. My Moon > is in Satabisha. I read that Satabisha has to do > with health issues > and substance abuse issues. > > > How is Ketu aspected by 3rd aspect of Mars? How > does that work? I > know that Mars aspects the 4th,7th,and 8th houses > from itself. I know > that my Mars aspects doesn't make those aspects to > Ketu. > > > I was in the navy for 7 yrs,and it sucked. I had > depression there. I > have service connected disability for depression. I > only got a 10 > percent rating,and received 100 dollars per month > for 3 yrs. Now I > have my disability upgraded to 70 percent,and now I > get 1,000 dollars > per month. Money is no problem for me right now. I > received a lot of > money from backpay from VA and social security for > bipolar diagnosis. > I feel that my 8th house lord Jupiter in Scorpio in > 4th aspecting 8th > house is why I have some luck with unearned money. > > > Could you please give me a list of books to learn > Vedic Astrology > from? I really love Vedic Astrology. It's so > accurate that it's > scary! hehehehehe > > > Thanks > > > > Raymond > > > , Shripal > <d_shripal> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > 1)Rahu and Ketu in Capricon and Cancer > > respectively.Rahu in Capricon make a individual > > inclined to sadness, love of solitude,shrewdness > and > > diplomacy.It gives wealth,but you don't desire and > not > > very ambitious too.Ketu in Cancer gives fickleless > > love,he is surrounded by many secrets and > mystriuos > > things.even prone to accident or danger while > > travelling.However Jupiter apect that too is not > > powerful in totally mitigating this effect. > > > > 2)Dispositor of Cancer where Ketu is placed is > highly > > afflicted my Mars and Saturn.Ketu is afflicted by > 3rd > > aspect of Mars and Mars squaring saturn,so loss > of > > mother is iminent,may be > mentally,physically,etc.As > > moon is good in Navmasa,may be that may be reason > why > > she didn't die,But still being with you ,she will > > never be with you. > > > > 3)Sun is debiliated and squared by Rahu and > Ketu.as I > > said ketu is afflicted to much.And in Navmasa sun > is > > debilated and aspected by Saturn and Mars so he > also > > died.Ketu even represents your ancestor,so even > your > > grandfather had done a suicide. > > > > 4)Know ketu being in 12th,It is a most unfortunate > > position,It causes incessant worries and troubles > > during the whole period of occupying this house, > or > > when it passes through it again, unless benefic > > aspects from other planets are in operation at the > > same time,like in your case jupiter,but that too > is > > afflicted by Saturn,which is influenced by Mars. > It > > causes loss of money, and unsatisfactory business > > transactions. It makes powerul enemies and > merciless > > creditors, and is also a sign of ill-health and > > troubles of all kinds. > > > > 5)One more thing about ketu being in 12th,it gives > the > > person with a talent for working with the sick or > > mentally insecure. It gives a drive to seek > seclusion > > and an inclination to meditate. With bad aspects > it > > could give an alienation from society. This > position > > seems to be karmic; and there is a very definite > > secret, sacrificial service of some kind involved, > > depending upon sign and aspects. The person with > the > > Ketu in the twelfth house may have a martyr > complex, > > which must be used at its highest in sacrificial > > service and delving into the secrets of the > > subconscious, bringing them to the light of the > > conscious mind. This position gives many nurses > and > > doctors. > > > > 6)Life is mostly built towards outward life with > fear > > and imagination.Currently you are going through > > Saturn Mahadasa,which is not good in Birth and > Navmasa > > chart both.So till 2021 ,I don't know,still what > all > > thing you have to go through.But one thing is for > > sure,you will be more into spiritual things,and > more > > you indulge yourself into those thing,more your > life > > will be beautiful.Be like a saturn or imbibe > saturn > > qualities in you,help poorer ro mentally ill > > person,that remedie will definately help you. > > > > > > --- astynaz <astynaz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > I have Ketu in Cancer in 12th which is aspected > by > > > 6th/7th house lord > > > Saturn in Taurus in 10th and 5th/8th house lord > > > Jupiter in Scorpio in > > > 4th. My Ketu in Cancer is disposited by Moon in > > > Aquarius in 7th > > > house. My Moon is in Satabisha. I also have > Rahu in > > > Capricorn in > > > 12th house from the Moon. No planets aspect my > Rahu. > > > > > > I am very interested in spirituality,but I don't > > > believe in being > > > part of any organized religion. I am preparing > for a > > > career in the > > > holistic healing field. > > > > > > I am also a person with a history of > > > Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADD. I > > > have been in the special ed system for 3 > years(1st > > > and 2nd grade > > > which I repeated). I was mistakened as mentally > > > retarded and was > > > ridiculed by normal kids for being in special > > > ed,having coordination > > > and speech problems. I have above average > > > intelligence. I do have 1st > > > house lord Sun, 2nd/11th house lord > Mercury,3rd/10th > > > house lord Venus > > > in Libra in 3rd house,and so it aspects the 9th > > > house. I also have > > > Sun,Mercury,and Venus in 9th house from the > Moon. I > > > have been > > > misdiagnosed as schizoaffective bipolar > disorder. A > > > lot of adult > > > ADDers are misdiagnosed as bipolar too. I went > to a > > > psychologist for > > > learning disability/ADHD assessment. I was > diagnosed > > > inattentive type > > > ADHD,Generalized Anxiety Disorder,Dysthymic > > > Disorder,Avoidant > > > Personality Disorder,and per > history:Developmental > > > Coordination > > > Disorder(notably in past). She didn't diagnose > me > > > with any bipolar > > > nor psychotic disorder like those psychiatrists > did. > > > She actually > > > listened to me and my mother. She did > psychological > > > testing. The > > > psychiatrists never did that with me. I don't > trust > > > psychiatrists at > > > all. I wonder if my Ketu in 6th house from the > Moon > > > has anything to > > > do with being misdiagnosed as well as > > > hypersensitivity to > > > medications. I get side effects easily from > > > medications because of my > > > hypersensitive body. My Saturn is 4th house from > the > > > Moon and aspects > > > my Ketu in 6th house. My mother has health > problems > > > including > > > Depression,Anxiety,Diabetes,Hepatitis C,and > Asthma. > > > She was shot when > > > I was 3 yrs old,and I was with her when it > happened. > > > She had a blood > > > transfusion,and that is why she has Hepatitis C. > She > > > is disabled from > > > the shooting. She hasn't worked since 1993. > > > > > > I am multiethnic too > > > > > > (Black,Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto > > > Rican,Native > > > American,and Jewish) I have dealt with prejudice > > > because of my mixed > > > ethnic background by both blacks and whites. It > is > > > my mixed ethnic > > > background that helped me believe in unity and > > > universal love. My > > > mother told me that my father believed the same. > > > > > > > > > I feel that I have heavy karma. I feel that my > > > great suffering has > > > led to me having great compassion for people. I > have > > > experienced > > > losses too. I never knew my father. He was out > of my > > > life when I was > > > a year old. My mother showed me a picture when I > was > > > 6 yrs old to > > > show her who my father was. He had drug > problems. He > > > also had speech > > > problems like me including stammering and > > > stuttering. My maternal > > > grandfather committed suicide on Jan 25, 1998. > His > > > death changed me. > > > It was a catalyst for me. I got back into > believing > > > in God again > > > after 2 years of atheism. I got more interested > in > > > the metaphysical. > > > > > > > > > Transiting Ketu was conjunct my 12th house lord > Moon > > > in 7th when he > > > committed suicide. > > > > > > I believe that great gain can result from a > great > > > loss. > > > > > > > > > I definitely can relate to my Ketu in Cancer in > 12th > > > > > > > > > > > > october 29, 1971 > > > 3:20 am > > > san francisco, california > > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , vattem > > > krishnan > > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Hello Members, > > > > Still we r not able to decide what is > appropriate > > > and not in our > > > group discussions.If we this is the platform > chosen > > > beyond the scope > > > and objectivity of sharing our knowledge and > > > experience,certainly we > > > need to alert and caution.What Mr Tanvir has > > > attempted is the > > > same.Incase the opinion of group is: > > > > "why should > > > > the truth not be objectively assessed?" > > > > let us flash back and find is it the topic in > the > > > perview of this > > > group to assess?Who are we and to whom we are > posing > > > these isues and > > > what %people have interst to debate on these > issues > > > and with results. > > > > I think Mr Manvir ji and other would also > think > > > and early effort > > > will be made to think more on subject of Nodes > than > > > make other issues > > > as nodal to seek opinions. > > > > p.s:Views on nodes are in tune iwth classics > > > except that in reality > > > when these r conjoined with other planets they > > > imitate as the planets > > > with whic they are associated.In my case Rahu is > > > associated with Mars > > > in a sthira rasi(Taurus) in 6th and ketu alone > and > > > unaspected by any > > > planet in vrischik in 12th.let me also add my 8H > is > > > of cancer in > > > which saturn.Venus and sun are associated. > > > > unless we get into D/9 to delineate and > confirm > > > all these musings > > > only add to theoritical perspective. > > > > One of my friend happened to be twin(eldest) > has > > > experience and > > > belief that his Ketu in it's dasa made him to > get > > > all > > > recognitions.This is the case with his other > brother > > > whose birth > > > happend just after 10 mts . > > > > so we have lot of instances where ketu made a > > > spoil sport and > > > reduced a brilliant student in his prime age > unto > > > oblivion. > > > > Also a case of drug addict in his 25s made him > to > > > succumb to a > > > premature death(by Rahu?) > > > > All inferences have to be made by taking into > > > wholistic approach > > > including stellar positions to add in to our > theory > > > of Nodes. > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > maniv78 <maniv78> wrote: > > > > > > > > I must agree with this point. I have struggled > > > invariably when > > > > applying the dictum that Ketu is like Mars and > > > Rahu like Saturn in > > > > my experiences with countless charts. > > > > > > > > We all know that: > > > > > > > > Saturn makes one detached, introspective and > > > seperative; > > > > Ketu makes one introverted, psychic and > 'weird'; > > > > Mars makes one aggressive, active and dynamic; > > > > Rahu makes one opportunistic, violent and > loaded > > > with excessive > > > > desires; > > > > > > > > And that Ketu is commonly placed in the signs > that > > > signify satwic > > > > tendencies (Pisces /Capricorn/ Sagittarius) in > the > > > charts of great > > > > spiritualists. Rahu's opposite placement in > > > materialistic signs > > > > (Virgo/Cancer (mildly)/Gemini) in these > > > configurations clearly > > > > indicate its disconnection with satwic > > > inclinations which is more > > > in > > > > line with nature of Mars then that of Saturn. > > > > > > > > Thus a logical conclusion with the above in > mind > > > would be that > > > > Saturn is in fact more like Ketu and Mars like > > > Rahu. Of course, > > > Mars > > > > does have similarities with Ketu (technical > > > faculties, intensity); > > > > and Saturn with Rahu (addictions, vices); but > they > > > fail to form > > > > conclusive parallels when considering the key > > > significations. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > P.S. Tanvirji, your very personal reaction to > > > Mukund's post, (which > > > > was not aimed at you initially) has > depreciated my > > > respect for you > > > > greatly. Your response was clearly driven by > an > > > urge to demonstrate > > > > your superior knowledge, qualify the drawbacks > of > > > Islam by > > > > disqualifying certain aspects of Hinduism and > the > > > ego created by > > > > your status as owner of this group. > > > > No one participating on this board is > irrational > > > enough to believe > > > > that Muslims as a whole are terrorists; > general > > > statements about > > > > religious groups/castes/races never have > > > substance. However the > > > > indisputable fact remains that the majority of > > > terrorist activity > > > is > > > > carried out by groups that come under the > banner > > > of Islam. Maybe > > > > it's politically incorrect to make such > > > statements; but why should > > > > the truth not be objectively assessed? > > > > I realize that this is board for discussions > on > > > Jyotish and related > > > > spiritualism so I apologize for lengthening > this > > > thread. If you had > > > > warned Mukundji politely and then subsequently > > > ignored his reaction > > > > to your allegations about his character then > > > perhaps this line of > > > > debate could have been avoided altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > , > "maniv78" > > > <maniv78> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , > Shripal > > > <d_shripal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify,you must be knowing Jup+ > Ketu > > > gives us > > > > > > a spiritual Inclination.You you have > analysed > > > several > > > > > > charts ,you will also find,people who are > > > having > > > > > > Jup+Sat are also spritually inclined.Have > you > > > ever > > > > > > heard Jup+ Mars give a spiritual > > > inclination,than Ketu > > > > > > like Mars holds false. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's forget about this too,Forget about > myth > > > too,know > > > > > > since ages astrology has changed a lot > and be > > > > > > practical. > > > > > > > > > > > > So know even Jaataka is not wrong.What I > said > > > was > > > > > > malefic part,Let me tell you benefic > part.If > > > ketu is > > > > > > Good ,it act like Mars and If Rahu is Bad > it > > > act like > > > > > > Saturn,that's what you are saying.What I > am > > > saying is > > > > > > very practical,Isn't it?.Try yourself in > diff > > > > > > charts,you will come to know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadow planets don't have aspect,even 7th > > > aspect is > > > > > > not there.But they influence various > houses in > > > > > > chart,because bottom line they are shadow > > > planets.What > > > > > > is shadow.All materialistic things which > > > exists in > > > > > > this world we always have a shadow.So > planets > > > squaring > > > > > > it up,aspecting, or some how connected > with > > > > > > planets,there shadows are reflected on > other > > > > > > house,That's how they get a good and bad > > > results of > > > > > > that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till now I have been hearing 'SHANIVAD > RAHU > > > - > > > > > > > KUJAVAT KETHU'[Rahu > > > > > > > like Saturn and Kethu like Mars] > principle > > > from > > > > > > > JAATAKA > > > > > > > texts whereas TAAJIKA/TAAJAKA groups > both > > > the nodes > > > > > > > similar to SATURN > > > > > > > [....sheShamanyat ca MANDAVAT...(Prs > Mrg.)]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature of > > > > > > > Saturn,that's > > > > > > > >why is makes one suffer too much,in > order > > > to divert > > > > > > > >him towards Spirituality.while Rahu > takes > > > benefic > > > > > > > >nature of Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am eager to know which text supports > the > > > above > > > > > > > statement, as I have > > > > > > > not heard of this MYTH till now. > > > > > > > If you could share some PRACTICAL > > > examples(charts) > > > > > > > with the group > > > > > > > using THIS principle, it would be better > > > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yours humbly, > > > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > Shripal > > > > > > > <d_shripal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article contains almost all qualities > of > > > Rahu and > > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > as individual and every word retun is > true > > > in all > > > > > > > > respect.Something addition to that.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are both unsatisfied > > > soul,which are > > > > > > > > striving for Moksha.As they are even > known > > > as a > > > > > > > Shadow > > > > > > > > planets.Shadow of each and everything > > > which exist > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > materialistic in this world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder why GOds never had a shadow,as > they > > > are > > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > souls from deception of Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature > of > > > > > > > Saturn,that's > > > > > > > > why is makes one suffer too much,in > order > > > to > > > > > > > divert > > > > > > > > him towards Spirituality.while Rahu > takes > > > benefic > > > > > > > > nature of Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu casts a favorable, fortunate, > > > cheerful, > > > > > > > > affectionate, expansive, optimistic > and > > > popular > > > > > > > > influence over the affairs of the > house in > > > which > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > falls, brings out the more positive > > > potentials of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sign in which it is placed, and > favours > > > the > > > > > > > functions > > > > > > > > and energies signified by any planets > or > > > points to > > > > > > > > which it forms a conjunction or > harmonious > > > aspect > > > > > > > > (with the Moon especially bringing > benefit > > > and > > > > > > > gains). > > > > > > > > The Ketu, casts a malefic, harmful > > > influence upon, > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > brings binding, delaying or impeding > > > restrictions > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > obligations in relation to the affairs > of > > > the > > > > > > > house it > > > > > > > > occupies; brings out the more negative > > > potentials > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the sign in which it is posited and > > > disfavours > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > in conjuction or inharmonious aspect > with > > > it (the > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > particularly bringing losses and > > > troubles). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But other look of this Moon Node's > Rahu > > > and Ketu > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > relating to one's subconscious > Attachment > > > vs > > > > > > > Conscious > > > > > > > > growth.Ketu represents subconscious > > > motivations > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > stem from the past and to which there > is > > > an inner > > > > > > > > inclination to cling although they may > no > > > longer > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > relevant or appropriate to the > > > individual's > > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > and prospects, while the Rahu > represents > > > conscious > > > > > > > > motivations relevant to the present > and > > > future, > > > > > > > > characterised by a desire for the > > > unfoldment of > > > > > > > > appropriate changes in personal > > > psychology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu indicates capabilities and > faculties > > > > > > > inherited > > > > > > > > from former incarnations or 'past > lives', > > > while > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Rahu shows the ideal direction for > > > > > > > self-development in > > > > > > > > the current incarnation in order to > attain > > > > > > > ultimate > > > > > > > > spiritual fulfilment and the > successful > > > > > > > realisation of > > > > > > > > one's pre-chosen evolutionary goals > from > > > this > > > > > > > > lifetime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever any thought why Two are > there(Rahu > > > and Ketu) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > not only one of them exist.That too > they > > > are > > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > > to each other all the time and > > > retograting.I am > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > talking in terms of there technical > > > > > > > existence.Reason > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Ketu principles are not to be > completely > > > > > > > overthrown > > > > > > > > and discarded, but rather kept in > > > harmonious > > > > > > > balance > > > > > > > > with those of the Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is regarded as a goal of new > growth > > > the > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > for which is a dimly illuminated > struggle. > > > > > > > Harmonious > > > > > > > > aspects and benefic conjunctions to > the > > > Rahu will > > > > > > > > indicate relatively easy progress > along > > > the > > > > > > > journey > > > > > > > > towards this goal, while inharmonious > > > aspects and > > > > > > > > malefic conjunctions will indicate > > > difficulties. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > individual will frequently, on > > > encountering > > > > > > > obstacles, > > > > > > > > be consciously inclined to give up and > > > return to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > safety of the Ketu, through weakness > of > > > resolve > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > than through absolute force or > obligation. > > > But as > > > > > > > > always with stressful aspects, the > > > ultimate > > > > > > > rewards of > > > > > > > > achievement can be greater and more > > > spiritually > > > > > > > > satisfying than would be attained by > an > > > easy > > > > > > > passage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspects to the nodes, both natally and > by > > > transit > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > progression, show the manner in which > the > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > towards the Rahu goals will be worked > out. > > > > > > > > Conjunctions to the Rahu induce forced > > > growth; > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > those to the Ketu encourage > conditioned > > > responses. > > > > > > > > Squares accentuate the conflict of > > > interest > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > the nodes, and pull the individual > towards > > > the > > > > > > > sign > > > > > > > > and house placement of the squared > > > planet.It > > > > > > > creates a > > > > > > > > tension for a individual in there > growth. > > > > > > > Quincunxes > > > > > > > > to the Rahu show a misperceieved > notion of > > > the > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > to attain growth. Sextiles bring > > > opportunities for > > > > > > > > constructive growth, while trines > bring > > > easy > > > > > > > > growth.That you all must be knowing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will soon be coming with Article > Nodes > > > in > > > > > > > > Synastry.Detail explanation about our > > > interaction > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > daily life materialistic objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- yogita purohit > <yogitapurohit> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to put forth an article > of > > > Rahu > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > have among my collection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Jyotish, the ancient astrological > > > system of > > > > > > > > > India, the lunar nodes are major > points > > > in natal > > > > > > > > > chart and are closely looked at, > > > especially in > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > transit movements through the birth > > > chart. As > > > > > > > > > opposed to Western astrological > systems > > > which > > > > > > > tends > > > > > > > > > to view nodes as favourable > influences, > > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > > regards the lunar nodes as malefic > > > forces, > > > > > > > > > responsible for chronic diseases, > loss, > > > > > > > sufferings, > > > > > > > > > "fatedEcataclysmic events and other > > > maladies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In western astrology there is a > strong > > > tendency > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > view the lunar nodes as something to > do > > > with > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > > karma—the accumulated lesson's of > one > > > past > > > > > > > lives. In > > > > > > > > > this view, popularized by such > authors > > > as Martin > > > > > > > > > Schulman of Karmic Astrology series, > the > > > north > > > > > > > nde > > > > > > > > > represents what we should be > striving > > > towards in > > > > > > > > > this life time, a sort of karmic > goal > > > for us to > > > > > > > > > reach. The south node is viewed as > the > > > past that > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > need to hold behind and not hold > onto. > > > > > > > Proponents of > > > > > > > > > this view contend, that by looking > at > > > the sign > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > house placements of the nodes, one's > > > karmic past > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > destiny can be ascertained. > Curiously > > > nodes are > > > > > > > > > given rather strong importance in > natal > > > chart > > > > > > > > > interpretation, but are seldom > looked at > > > closely > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > transit analysis of the here and now > of > > > one's > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Uranian and Cosmobiological > > > system of > > > > > > > > > Germany, the nodes are interpreted > as > > > having a > > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > to do with interpersonal > relationships, > > > rather > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > karma. Alfred Witte founder of the > > > Uranian > > > > > > > > > astrological system strongly > propounded > > > this > > > > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > The nodes were regarded as key in > > > determining > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > social the person was and, as > opposed to > > > the > > > > > > > > > American view, looked in at the > transit > > > > > > > analysis. > > > > > > > > > Aspects from the nodes to other > planet > > > would > > > > > > > > > indicate where and what nature one's > > > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > > > would be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Vedic astrological system, > however, > > > while the > > > > > > > > > nodes may have something to do with > > > one's karma > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > may involve relationships with > others, > > > they are > > > > > > > > > inherently viewed as evil cosmic > > > influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know about the story of > origin of > > > Rahu > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > how separation of Rahu and ketu > occured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, Rahu had managed to > taste > > > and > > > > > > > swallow > > > > > > > > > the amrita just before the > dismemberment > > > and > > > > > > > > > therefore was unable to be killed. > > > Because of > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > immortality Rahu and Ketu exists > > > eternally in > > > > > > > > > heavens. Due to it's exposure by sun > and > > > moon, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > nodes are sworn enemies of those 2 > > > planets, > > > > > > > hence > > > > > > > > > the darkening of Sun and Moon during > > > solar and > > > > > > > lunar > > > > > > > > > eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAHU—THE ROLLER COASTER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As can be deduced from the origin or > > > story of > > > > > > > rahu , > > > > > > > > > that rahu is an excellent liar as it > was > > > able to > > > > > > > > > deceive even the gods, if only > > > temporarily. In > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Vedic system, the north node, rahu > has > > > rulership > > > > > > > > > over con artists, liars, illusions > and > > > cheats, > > > > > > > Since > > > > > > > > > rahu is only the head and part of > the > > > body of an > > > > > > > > > immortal demon it is always > constantly > > > hungy, > > > > > > > > > whatever food eaten never reaches > the > > > whole body > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > rahu is only head and mouth. And > because > > > of this > > > > > > > > > rahu is viewed as insatiable > material > > > desires . > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > matter how much it gets it always > wants > > > more and > > > > > > > > > because of this rahu is closely > > > associated with > > > > > > > > > addictions and obsessive/compulsive > > > behaviour > > > > > > > > > patterns. Accordingly rahu rules > > > poisons, drugs, > > > > > > > > > alcoholism, addicts, compulsive > > > gambling, sex > > > > > > > > > addiction, and pleasure seeking. > Rahu > > > also rules > > > > > > > > > worries, paranoia and irrational > fears. > > > Because > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > is demon and inheetely evil it also > has > > > domain > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > sufferings in general, especially > > > chronic > > > > > > > diseases > > > > > > > > > and events that are sudden and seem > > > fated and > > > > > > > > > tragic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Rahu had the audacity to > > > impersonate a > > > > > > > god, > > > > > > > > > at a considerable risk to itself( a > > > gamble which > > > > > > > > > eventually was lost by demon body > > > leading to > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > separation). Rahu is associated with > > > reckless > > > > > > > > > behaviour and of taking chances. > Rahu > > > can make > > > > > > > > > people do things they otherwise > would > > > not by > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > them throw caution to wind and > thinking > > > that > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > can get away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A final lesson to be gleaned from > the > > > vedic myth > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that Rahu's gains are always > temporary. > > > In the > > > > > > > myth > > > > > > > > > rahu did manage to deceive gods for > a > > > while, but > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > found at the end and suffered for > it. > > > Likewise, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > well placd in one's chart, rahu may > give > > > > > > > material > > > > > > > > > success, drive, fame and ambition, > but > > > these > > > > > > > gifts > > > > > > > > > are fleeting and temporary. It is a > > > virtual > > > > > > > axiom in > > > > > > > > > Jyotish that whatever is gained with > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > > influence will eventually flitter > away > > > and be > > > > > > > lost. > > > > > > > > > One of the great lesson rahu teaches > is > > > this : > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > can't take it with you .The moment > you > > > think > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > you have attained lasting success > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the material world is exactly the > > > moment when > > > > > > > > > rahu will take away that success, > > > leaving you > > > > > > > hungry > > > > > > > > > for what you lost and you cannot > have it > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KETU—THE CRUEL ONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu is the headless body of rahu > called > > > as > > > > > > > dragon's > > > > > > > > > tail. Astrologically ketu is exact > > > opposite of > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > Whereas rahu is pure physicality and > > > materialism > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > ketu is pure spirituality and > > > non-materiality. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > this respect ketu acts like Neptune. > But > > > ketu's > > > > > > > > > spirituality comes with heavy price > tag. > > > It is > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > all, a half of demon. Ketu brings > > > spirituality > > > > > > > onto > > > > > > > > > people by making them suffer. It is > > > almost as if > > > > > > > > > ketu creates many disasters in a > > > person's life, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > no one has choice but to turn to > divine > > > for help > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > solace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since ketu is non-physical and > > > non-material, > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > influence creates denial and > sometimes > > > > > > > abandonment. > > > > > > > > > For example, a person with Ketu > closely > > > conjunct > > > > > > > > > midpoint of the 4th house of the > mother > > > will > > > > > > > > > typically report that their mother > was > > > > > > > emotionally > > > > > > > > > or physically unavailable when the > > > person was > > > > > > > > > growing up. Ketu can be very mystic, > > > occult, > > > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > > > and intuitive, but it can also bring > > > with it > > > > > > > > > isolation, loss, misery and abuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the key things to be aware of > > > with ketu > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that it rules diseases of unknown > origin > > > (like > > > > > > > > > cancer, multiple sclerosis, > parkinson's > > > etc.,)or > > > > > > > > > disease that can get misdiagonised > or > > > mistreated > > > > > > > > > this is because of ketu's hidden, > > > mysterious > > > > > > > > > quality. It can be most insidious > > > influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the article given above I > > > would also > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > to mention certain more points on > the > > > nodes > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > come across while studying different > > > horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is usually seen and also > mentioned in > > > the > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > given above rahu and ketu are > > > unsatisfied nodes. > > > > > > > E.g > > > > > > > > > for this I would like to mention > here is > > > that I > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > working as an astrologer with a very > > > reputed > > > > > > > > > businessman of Mumbai who was > filthy > > > rich and > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > having all materialistic pleasures > of > > > life he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > unsatisfied and that age (his age is > > > near about > > > > > > > > > 55-60) he use to often complain > about > > > having > > > > > > > > > dissatisfied physical relationship > with > > > his > > > > > > > wife, he > > > > > > > > > felt still there is something > lacking to > > > make > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > more popular world wide, he had past > > > broken > > > > > > > affair > > > > > > > > > and at this age too he was longing a > > > > > > > companionship > > > > > > > > > with young females. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Studying his horoscope it was seen > that > > > his was > > > > > > > > > Taurus asc. With Rahu in it and > ketu- > > > guru in > > > > > > > > > scorpio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although rahu did not give him > disturbed > > > or > > > > > > > broken > > > > > > > > > marriage life he is still with wife > may > > > be due > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > presence of Jupiter in 7th could be > > > saving point > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > his marital life (here I want group > > > member to > > > > > > > > > discuss what would have made him > save > > > his > > > > > > > marriage) > > > > > > > > > but he has grudges against his wife. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, the second point I have seen is > > > Mars and > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > mostly in 7th and 5th houses in > > > horoscopes > > > > > > > > > (irrespective of signs placed) have > > > given those > > > > > > > > > native questionable characters and > > > sometimes > > > > > > > even to > > > > > > > > > the extent of satisfying their > physical > > > desires > > > > > > > > > before marriage and afterwards > getting > > > separated > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > married elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What points in this planetary > > > combinations gives > > > > > > > > > such effects does Mars has something > to > > > do with > > > > > > > > > character of person apart from it > hot > > > qualities > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > rashness, arroagancy, forceful > energy > > > drives > > > > > > > etc., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would welcome points or discussion > > > from Rupji > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > respected members of the group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal > page > > > ETry > > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > "Love is friendship set to music." > > > > > > > > "Love conquers all." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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