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When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is formed.

Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu

Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

 

 

 

Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all

planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not

confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

 

Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

 

When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and the

rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is

the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give

windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally

natives with this yoga get married late in life .

 

Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house this

yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many ups

and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also

short tempered.

 

Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth

house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by law

or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a

beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form of

political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

 

Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik

Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native is

worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

 

Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the

rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to

job and business.

 

Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to go

through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an illegitimate

child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has the

power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

 

Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this

Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There

is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this

case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are also

chances of being let down by friends in this case.

 

Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in the

twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has

the power to confer power and political success.

 

Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this

yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

discord in the life of the native.

 

Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this

yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies.

Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

native does not get paternal wealth.

 

Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the

yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels

frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from

children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half of

their life.

 

Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

 

 

When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this yoga

arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are may

enemies and health problems.

 

The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer gains

too.

 

All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

 

Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no Kaalsarp

Yoga.

 

Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

 

Ritu Lalit

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Hi Ritu,

 

I don't think in puranans there was something like

Kaal Surpa Yoga,when astrology started,It came very

much afterwards.

 

Even aspect are not there for Rahu,normally a

astrologer talk about it's 5th aspect,But they

influence very much because of there co-ordination

with other planets as trine,square etc.

 

 

--- Ritu Lalit <ritulalit wrote:

 

>

> When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and

> Ketu i.e., the

> moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp

> Yoga is formed.

> Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of

> the chart is

> unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside

> the Rahu Ketu

> Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

>

>

>

> Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga

> make sure that all

> planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is

> one planet

> outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does

> not exist. do not

> confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka

> Dosha.

>

> Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

>

> When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the

> seventh house and the

> rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga

> which arises is

> the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as

> Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has

> the power to give

> windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital

> life. Generally

> natives with this yoga get married late in life .

>

> Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in

> the 3rd house this

> yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the

> chart have many ups

> and down in life. They have a habit of speaking

> lies. They are also

> short tempered.

>

> Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and

> ketu in the fourth

> house.Litigation problems are common is this case.

> Punishment by law

> or the Government also possible. However if this

> yoga operates in a

> beneficial manner then it has the power to confer

> the highest form of

> political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

>

> Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the

> eighth house Kulik

> Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for

> health. The

> probability of losses and accidents is high with

> natives of this

> combination. This is bad for financial prosperity

> too. The native is

> worried on account of an insecure financial

> standing.

>

> Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the

> ninth house and the

> rest of the planets are located to the left of the

> Rahu Ketu axis

> this yoga is born. The native is burdened with

> problems relating to

> job and business.

>

> Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th

> this yoga is

> Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work

> sphere and has to go

> through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has

> an illegitimate

> child or can be an illegitimate child. However this

> yoga also has the

> power of conferring high political success and

> windfall gains.

>

> Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the

> eleventh house this

> Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of

> children. There

> is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is

> also afflicted

> then there is the possibility of being troubled by

> spirits. In this

> case if a native falls ill the recovery time is

> slow. There are also

> chances of being let down by friends in this case.

>

> Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house

> and Ketu is in the

> twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has

> problems on

> account of diseases. However if this yoga acts

> beneficially it has

> the power to confer power and political success.

>

> Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the

> first house this

> yoga is formed. The native has got speculative

> tendencies and can

> lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling.

> There is marital

> discord in the life of the native.

>

> Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the

> second house this

> yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has

> many enemies.

> Such a native has friendship with the anti social

> elements. The

> native does not get paternal wealth.

>

> Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the

> fifth house the

> yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The

> native travels

> frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems

> also arise from

> children. However these natives get some peace in

> the latter half of

> their life.

>

> Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the

> 6th house this yoga

> arises. The native has problems relating to

> litigation. There are may

> enemies and health problems.

>

> The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the

> power to confer gains

> too.

>

> All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

>

> Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis

> there is no Kaalsarp

> Yoga.

>

> Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's

> south node.

>

> Ritu Lalit

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

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Dear Ritu and members

Well as you have mentioned yourself that "Kaal Sarpa yoga is not

always bad and It has the power to confer gains too", so we can

consider the combinations under which can become better i.e, when

Rahu/Ketu are in Kendras(1st, 4th, 7th 10 th houses) with a Trikona

Lord(Ist, 5th, 9th) lord then Rahu and Ketu antardasas can give

excellent financial and prosperous results..however the native will

suffer when the antardasas of trikona lords come..same effects will

happen when Rahu/Ketu are in Trikona houses with kendra lords.. that

pretty much means that Kaalsarpa yoga related to kendra and trikona

lords will not be so bad..taking the thought further, you can see

that Rahu in 4th and Ketu in 10th (with no kaalsarpa yoga and no

kendra/trikona lord conjunction) can spoil the effects of 4th and

10th house i.e., the native will suffer as far as properties, welath

and career are concerned... so Kaalsarpa yoga/No KaalSarpa yoga will

give same devsatating effects when Rahu and Ketu occupy kendras and

there are no kendra/trikona lord cojunctions i.e, the native is

destined to suffer..same effects will happen when Rahu and Ketu

occupy otherhouses unless and until the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu are

very strong and help the native in rahu/Ketu periods..So the native

is not much better without kaalsarpa yoga, of Rahu/Ketu are badly

placed and destroying the effects of those houses.. there are

exceptions ofcourse like Ketu in 11th house can give lot of financial

gains(legal and illegal)....

 

 

..... the net conclusion is that there is not much difference betweeen

kaalsarpa yoga cases and cases with badly placed Rahu/Ketu, so why

worry about kaalsarpa yoga..we all have to go through our karma and

Rahu/Ketu being karmic planets ensure that karma must be executed

otherwise more suferrings will come if the karma is not executed

deliberately.Unless and until Rahu/Ketu are favourably placed in

conjunction with strong kendra/trikona lords in trikonas/kendras most

cases with/without kaalsarpa yoga will gave same devastating

results..ultimately Rahu and Ketua are great teachers and they remove

the glamour and show us the real truth..so one defintely emerges as a

much stronger person after going through ups and downs during their

periods...Regards ...Rajesh Kumaria.

 

 

, "Ritu Lalit"

<ritulalit@h...> wrote:

>

> When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

> moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is

formed.

> Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

> unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu

> Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

>

>

>

> Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all

> planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

> outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not

> confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

>

> Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

>

> When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and

the

> rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is

> the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give

> windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally

> natives with this yoga get married late in life .

>

> Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house

this

> yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many

ups

> and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also

> short tempered.

>

> Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth

> house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by

law

> or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a

> beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form

of

> political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

>

> Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik

> Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

> probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

> combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native

is

> worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

>

> Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the

> rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

> this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to

> job and business.

>

> Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

> Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to

go

> through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an

illegitimate

> child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has

the

> power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

>

> Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this

> Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There

> is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

> then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this

> case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are

also

> chances of being let down by friends in this case.

>

> Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in

the

> twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

> account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has

> the power to confer power and political success.

>

> Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this

> yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

> lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

> discord in the life of the native.

>

> Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this

> yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies.

> Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

> native does not get paternal wealth.

>

> Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the

> yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels

> frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from

> children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half

of

> their life.

>

> Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this

yoga

> arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are

may

> enemies and health problems.

>

> The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer

gains

> too.

>

> All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

>

> Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no

Kaalsarp

> Yoga.

>

> Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

>

> Ritu Lalit

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Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Ritu, Namaste

 

That was a wonderful list of various Kaala Sarpa Yoga's (KSY). Can

you please point me to the text or the source of this as I wanted to

read a bit more on the variations of this yoga is also called Kaala

Amrita Yoga. Alternatively, if you have various placements of the

Kaala Amrita Yoga notes please share with us.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

, "Ritu Lalit"

<ritulalit@h...> wrote:

>

> When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

> moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is

formed.

> Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

> unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu

> Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

>

>

>

> Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all

> planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

> outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not

> confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

>

> Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

>

> When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and

the

> rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is

> the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give

> windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally

> natives with this yoga get married late in life .

>

> Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house

this

> yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many

ups

> and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also

> short tempered.

>

> Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth

> house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by

law

> or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a

> beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form

of

> political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

>

> Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik

> Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

> probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

> combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native

is

> worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

>

> Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the

> rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

> this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to

> job and business.

>

> Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

> Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to

go

> through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an

illegitimate

> child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has

the

> power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

>

> Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this

> Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There

> is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

> then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this

> case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are

also

> chances of being let down by friends in this case.

>

> Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in

the

> twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

> account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has

> the power to confer power and political success.

>

> Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this

> yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

> lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

> discord in the life of the native.

>

> Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this

> yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies.

> Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

> native does not get paternal wealth.

>

> Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the

> yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels

> frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from

> children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half

of

> their life.

>

> Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this

yoga

> arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are

may

> enemies and health problems.

>

> The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer

gains

> too.

>

> All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

>

> Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no

Kaalsarp

> Yoga.

>

> Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

>

> Ritu Lalit

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Yes I know its a wonderful article - but cant take credit for it. I

had read it somewhere and saved it on my computer ... and recently

came across a young man who had Ke in 2nd and Ra in 8th with all

planets in between ... and searched my computer for the article. I

then thought of sharing it with the forum.

 

Ritu

 

 

 

, "Raghunatha Rao Nemani"

<raon1008> wrote:

>

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Dear Ritu, Namaste

>

> That was a wonderful list of various Kaala Sarpa Yoga's (KSY). Can

> you please point me to the text or the source of this as I wanted to

> read a bit more on the variations of this yoga is also called Kaala

> Amrita Yoga. Alternatively, if you have various placements of the

> Kaala Amrita Yoga notes please share with us.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

> , "Ritu Lalit"

> <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> >

> > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

> > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is

> formed.

> > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

> > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu

Ketu

> > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that

all

> > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

> > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do

not

> > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

> >

> > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and

> the

> > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises

is

> > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to

give

> > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life.

Generally

> > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> >

> > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house

> this

> > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many

> ups

> > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are

also

> > short tempered.

> >

> > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the

fourth

> > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by

> law

> > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in

a

> > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest

form

> of

> > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

> >

> > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house

Kulik

> > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

> > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

> > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native

> is

> > worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

> >

> > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and

the

> > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

> > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating

to

> > job and business.

> >

> > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

> > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has

to

> go

> > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an

> illegitimate

> > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has

> the

> > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

> >

> > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house

this

> > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children.

There

> > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

> > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In

this

> > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are

> also

> > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> >

> > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in

> the

> > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

> > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it

has

> > the power to confer power and political success.

> >

> > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house

this

> > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

> > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

> > discord in the life of the native.

> >

> > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house

this

> > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many

enemies.

> > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

> > native does not get paternal wealth.

> >

> > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house

the

> > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native

travels

> > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise

from

> > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half

> of

> > their life.

> >

> > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this

> yoga

> > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are

> may

> > enemies and health problems.

> >

> > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer

> gains

> > too.

> >

> > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

> >

> > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no

> Kaalsarp

> > Yoga.

> >

> > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

> >

> > Ritu Lalit

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Dear Ritu,

I have the same combination as you stated in my chart.

19march 1966 4.10pm new delhi

Brijesh

 

Ritu Lalit <ritulalit wrote:

 

Yes I know its a wonderful article - but cant take credit for it. I

had read it somewhere and saved it on my computer ... and recently

came across a young man who had Ke in 2nd and Ra in 8th with all

planets in between ... and searched my computer for the article. I

then thought of sharing it with the forum.

 

Ritu

 

 

 

, "Raghunatha Rao Nemani"

<raon1008> wrote:

>

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Dear Ritu, Namaste

>

> That was a wonderful list of various Kaala Sarpa Yoga's (KSY). Can

> you please point me to the text or the source of this as I wanted to

> read a bit more on the variations of this yoga is also called Kaala

> Amrita Yoga. Alternatively, if you have various placements of the

> Kaala Amrita Yoga notes please share with us.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

> , "Ritu Lalit"

> <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> >

> > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

> > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is

> formed.

> > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

> > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu

Ketu

> > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that

all

> > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

> > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do

not

> > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

> >

> > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and

> the

> > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises

is

> > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to

give

> > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life.

Generally

> > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> >

> > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house

> this

> > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many

> ups

> > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are

also

> > short tempered.

> >

> > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the

fourth

> > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by

> law

> > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in

a

> > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest

form

> of

> > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

> >

> > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house

Kulik

> > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

> > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

> > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native

> is

> > worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

> >

> > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and

the

> > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

> > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating

to

> > job and business.

> >

> > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

> > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has

to

> go

> > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an

> illegitimate

> > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has

> the

> > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

> >

> > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house

this

> > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children.

There

> > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

> > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In

this

> > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are

> also

> > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> >

> > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in

> the

> > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

> > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it

has

> > the power to confer power and political success.

> >

> > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house

this

> > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

> > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

> > discord in the life of the native.

> >

> > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house

this

> > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many

enemies.

> > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

> > native does not get paternal wealth.

> >

> > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house

the

> > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native

travels

> > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise

from

> > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half

> of

> > their life.

> >

> > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this

> yoga

> > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are

> may

> > enemies and health problems.

> >

> > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer

> gains

> > too.

> >

> > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

> >

> > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no

> Kaalsarp

> > Yoga.

> >

> > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

> >

> > Ritu Lalit

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ritu,

This is a good compilation.

Let members of the group tally with the results of some known

charts having such Rahu/ketu placements.

My observation is that the various results given here are more or

less same as the placement of Rahu in that house irrespective of KSY.

Inder

 

 

, "Ritu Lalit"

<ritulalit@h...> wrote:

>

> When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the

> moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is

formed.

> Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is

> unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu

> Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

>

>

>

> Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that

all

> planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet

> outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do

not

> confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha.

>

> Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

>

> When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and

the

> rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is

> the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to

give

> windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life.

Generally

> natives with this yoga get married late in life .

>

> Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house

this

> yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many

ups

> and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are

also

> short tempered.

>

> Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the

fourth

> house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by

law

> or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in

a

> beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form

of

> political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant.

>

> Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house

Kulik

> Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The

> probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this

> combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native

is

> worried on account of an insecure financial standing.

>

> Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and

the

> rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis

> this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating

to

> job and business.

>

> Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is

> Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to

go

> through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an

illegitimate

> child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has

the

> power of conferring high political success and windfall gains.

>

> Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house

this

> Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children.

There

> is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted

> then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In

this

> case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are

also

> chances of being let down by friends in this case.

>

> Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in

the

> twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on

> account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has

> the power to confer power and political success.

>

> Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this

> yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can

> lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital

> discord in the life of the native.

>

> Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this

> yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies.

> Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The

> native does not get paternal wealth.

>

> Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the

> yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native

travels

> frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise

from

> children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half

of

> their life.

>

> Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga

>

>

> When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this

yoga

> arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are

may

> enemies and health problems.

>

> The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer

gains

> too.

>

> All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu.

>

> Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no

Kaalsarp

> Yoga.

>

> Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node.

>

> Ritu Lalit

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Hii

All

 

If there is any one of the planets is with the Rahu &

Ketu.. & rest all planets i.e. remaining 6 planets r

hemmed between the Rahu & Ketu... then in that case no

Kal Sarpa yoga is formed...

 

If I m wrong then pls rectify the error....

 

Regads

Ajay

 

 

--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

 

>

> Dear Ritu,

> This is a good compilation.

> Let members of the group tally with the results of

> some known

> charts having such Rahu/ketu placements.

> My observation is that the various results given

> here are more or

> less same as the placement of Rahu in that house

> irrespective of KSY.

> Inder

>

>

> , "Ritu

> Lalit"

> <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> >

> > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and

> Ketu i.e., the

> > moon's north node and the moon's south node

> Kaalsarp Yoga is

> formed.

> > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of

> the chart is

> > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is

> outside the Rahu Ketu

> > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga

> make sure that

> all

> > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there

> is one planet

> > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does

> not exist. do

> not

> > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or

> Karaka Dosha.

> >

> > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the

> seventh house and

> the

> > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga

> which arises is

> > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as

> Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has

> the power to

> give

> > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for

> marital life.

> Generally

> > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> >

> > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in

> the 3rd house

> this

> > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the

> chart have many

> ups

> > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking

> lies. They are

> also

> > short tempered.

> >

> > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and

> ketu in the

> fourth

> > house.Litigation problems are common is this case.

> Punishment by

> law

> > or the Government also possible. However if this

> yoga operates in

> a

> > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer

> the highest form

> of

> > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo

> ascendant.

> >

> > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the

> eighth house

> Kulik

> > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for

> health. The

> > probability of losses and accidents is high with

> natives of this

> > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity

> too. The native

> is

> > worried on account of an insecure financial

> standing.

> >

> > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the

> ninth house and

> the

> > rest of the planets are located to the left of the

> Rahu Ketu axis

> > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with

> problems relating

> to

> > job and business.

> >

> > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th

> this yoga is

> > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work

> sphere and has to

> go

> > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native

> has an

> illegitimate

> > child or can be an illegitimate child. However

> this yoga also has

> the

> > power of conferring high political success and

> windfall gains.

> >

> > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the

> eleventh house

> this

> > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account

> of children.

> There

> > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is

> also afflicted

> > then there is the possibility of being troubled by

> spirits. In

> this

> > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is

> slow. There are

> also

> > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> >

> > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house

> and Ketu is in

> the

> > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has

> problems on

> > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts

> beneficially it has

> > the power to confer power and political success.

> >

> > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the

> first house this

> > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative

> tendencies and can

> > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling.

> There is marital

> > discord in the life of the native.

> >

> > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the

> second house this

> > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and

> has many enemies.

> > Such a native has friendship with the anti social

> elements. The

> > native does not get paternal wealth.

> >

> > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> >

> >

> > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the

> fifth house the

> > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga.

> The native

> travels

> > frequently and is never fixed at on place.

> Problems also arise

> from

> > children. However these natives get some peace in

> the

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Dear All,

 

JUST FOR INFORMATION

 

1. It's said so, as mentioned by Ajay Sharma, in another vedic

Group's discussion. It may be unconclusive since the Kala Sarpa Yoga

(KSY) is not mentioned in any of the traditional astrological texts

from Parashara to Varahamihira.

 

 

2. Some KSY articles in website are given below:

 

http://www.galacticcenter.org/money_happiness.htm

 

http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id102.html

 

http://www..org/mantra/sarpa.htm

 

www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com/The_Celestial_Wheel_page2.htm

 

 

3. As per defination given by Ritu, other than Jawaharlal Nehru

(Asc 24-27 Cencer) with 4/10 Rahu/Ketu axis, some well-known people

with KSY are as follows:

 

a/ President George W. Bush, Asc 14-06 Cancer, 5-11 axis

b/ Nelson Mandela, 2-31 saggitarius, 6/12 axis

c/ Margaret Thacher 22-33 Libra, 4-10 axis

d/ Benito Mussolini, 28-24 Libra, 1-7 axis

e/ Christina Onassis, 2-39 Ta, 5/11 axis

f/ Western Astrolger Basil Fearington, 3-56 Capricon, 6/12 axis

g/ French erotic writer Anais Nin, 10-54 Virgo, 1/7 axis

h/ Athina Roussel, daughter of Christina Onassis, 25-42 Libra, 2/9

axis; Athina Roussel picked up an estimated $2.7 billion in cash,

homes, companies, art, shares, a private jet and the Greek Ionian

island of Skorpios when she celebrated her 18th birthday on

Wednesday. She will inherit a further $2 billion on her 21st birthday

when she will also take control of the Onassis Foundation.

 

 

4. Kalsarpa Yoga & K. P. (K.P. & ASTR0LOGY 2002)

 

a. 1st House sub-lord is Rahu--- not a proportionate body.

b. Rahu as SubL for 2nd Cusp ---never a satisfactory bank

position;

c. Rahu as SubL for 3rdC – never happy in relation to his kins,

brothers and sisters;

d. -- 4thC ---no peace & comfort;

e. --- 5th C --- lot of obstructions in games & amusement;

f. --- 6thC --- not strong body resistence;

g. --- 7thC --- not a peaceful married life;

h. --- 8thC --- prone for Akal Mrityu--- health not proper, loss

of money etc;

i. --- 9thC --- poor fate—lots of struggle in life;

j. ---10thC--- never attain any regulation—loss in every aspect;

k. ---11th C--- difficulty in realising even small wishes---

mental state confused;

l. --- 12thC--- away from his kins & motherland.

 

It looks like matters of a particular house are destroyed as if Ketu

is deposited in that house.

 

More planets are in const or sub of Rahu more times ups & down--- if

not, less effect.

 

 

5. Some are saying it isn't as bad as papakatrika. One thing

interesting for 6 & 12 axis --- long-term imprisonment or foreign

land --- 12H ---for Pandit Nehru altogether more than nine years in

jail, between 1921 and 1945 --- for Nelson Mandela more than 27 years

imprisonment---Western Astrologer and Musician Basil Fearrington has

travelled to every corner of the world (more than 16 passports so

far).

 

 

Best regards,

tw

 

 

 

, ajay sharma

<ajaysharma0605> wrote:

>

> Hii

> All

>

> If there is any one of the planets is with the Rahu &

> Ketu.. & rest all planets i.e. remaining 6 planets r

> hemmed between the Rahu & Ketu... then in that case no

> Kal Sarpa yoga is formed...

>

> If I m wrong then pls rectify the error....

>

> Regads

> Ajay

>

>

> --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Ritu,

> > This is a good compilation.

> > Let members of the group tally with the results of

> > some known

> > charts having such Rahu/ketu placements.

> > My observation is that the various results given

> > here are more or

> > less same as the placement of Rahu in that house

> > irrespective of KSY.

> > Inder

> >

> >

> > , "Ritu

> > Lalit"

> > <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and

> > Ketu i.e., the

> > > moon's north node and the moon's south node

> > Kaalsarp Yoga is

> > formed.

> > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of

> > the chart is

> > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is

> > outside the Rahu Ketu

> > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga

> > make sure that

> > all

> > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there

> > is one planet

> > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does

> > not exist. do

> > not

> > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or

> > Karaka Dosha.

> > >

> > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the

> > seventh house and

> > the

> > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga

> > which arises is

> > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as

> > Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has

> > the power to

> > give

> > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for

> > marital life.

> > Generally

> > > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> > >

> > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in

> > the 3rd house

> > this

> > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the

> > chart have many

> > ups

> > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking

> > lies. They are

> > also

> > > short tempered.

> > >

> > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and

> > ketu in the

> > fourth

> > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case.

> > Punishment by

> > law

> > > or the Government also possible. However if this

> > yoga operates in

> > a

> > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer

> > the highest form

> > of

> > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo

> > ascendant.

> > >

> > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the

> > eighth house

> > Kulik

> > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for

> > health. The

> > > probability of losses and accidents is high with

> > natives of this

> > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity

> > too. The native

> > is

> > > worried on account of an insecure financial

> > standing.

> > >

> > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the

> > ninth house and

> > the

> > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the

> > Rahu Ketu axis

> > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with

> > problems relating

> > to

> > > job and business.

> > >

> > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th

> > this yoga is

> > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work

> > sphere and has to

> > go

> > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native

> > has an

> > illegitimate

> > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However

> > this yoga also has

> > the

> > > power of conferring high political success and

> > windfall gains.

> > >

> > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the

> > eleventh house

> > this

> > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account

> > of children.

> > There

> > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is

> > also afflicted

> > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by

> > spirits. In

> > this

> > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is

> > slow. There are

> > also

> > > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> > >

> > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house

> > and Ketu is in

> > the

> > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has

> > problems on

> > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts

> > beneficially it has

> > > the power to confer power and political success.

> > >

> > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the

> > first house this

> > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative

> > tendencies and can

> > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling.

> > There is marital

> > > discord in the life of the native.

> > >

> > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the

> > second house this

> > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and

> > has many enemies.

> > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social

> > elements. The

> > > native does not get paternal wealth.

> > >

> > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the

> > fifth house the

> > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > The native

> > travels

> > > frequently and is never fixed at on place.

> > Problems also arise

> > from

> > > children. However these natives get some peace in

> > the

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

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if i understand correctly, if rahu leads the kala sarpa yoga, with

no planet conjunct rahu or ketu (which breaks the yoga) then the

effects can be devestating, but if kala amrit yoga (ketu leads) is

formed, then the effects are bad, but less.

 

my understanding of "having killed a snake in a past life" has to do

perhaps with having raised kundalini, and then having abused the

power, in a past life.

can anyone shed some opinions on this? of course, some famous people

who have it i doubt raised much of anything.

also, i didnt check the famous people on the list, but do some have

a planet conjunct one of the nodes?

kalidas

 

-- In , "tw853" <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> JUST FOR INFORMATION

>

> 1. It's said so, as mentioned by Ajay Sharma, in another vedic

> Group's discussion. It may be unconclusive since the Kala Sarpa

Yoga

> (KSY) is not mentioned in any of the traditional astrological

texts

> from Parashara to Varahamihira.

>

>

> 2. Some KSY articles in website are given below:

>

> http://www.galacticcenter.org/money_happiness.htm

>

> http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id102.html

>

> http://www..org/mantra/sarpa.htm

>

> www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com/The_Celestial_Wheel_page2.htm

>

>

> 3. As per defination given by Ritu, other than Jawaharlal Nehru

> (Asc 24-27 Cencer) with 4/10 Rahu/Ketu axis, some well-known

people

> with KSY are as follows:

>

> a/ President George W. Bush, Asc 14-06 Cancer, 5-11 axis

> b/ Nelson Mandela, 2-31 saggitarius, 6/12 axis

> c/ Margaret Thacher 22-33 Libra, 4-10 axis

> d/ Benito Mussolini, 28-24 Libra, 1-7 axis

> e/ Christina Onassis, 2-39 Ta, 5/11 axis

> f/ Western Astrolger Basil Fearington, 3-56 Capricon, 6/12 axis

> g/ French erotic writer Anais Nin, 10-54 Virgo, 1/7 axis

> h/ Athina Roussel, daughter of Christina Onassis, 25-42 Libra, 2/9

> axis; Athina Roussel picked up an estimated $2.7 billion in cash,

> homes, companies, art, shares, a private jet and the Greek Ionian

> island of Skorpios when she celebrated her 18th birthday on

> Wednesday. She will inherit a further $2 billion on her 21st

birthday

> when she will also take control of the Onassis Foundation.

>

>

> 4. Kalsarpa Yoga & K. P. (K.P. & ASTR0LOGY 2002)

>

> a. 1st House sub-lord is Rahu--- not a proportionate body.

> b. Rahu as SubL for 2nd Cusp ---never a satisfactory bank

> position;

> c. Rahu as SubL for 3rdC – never happy in relation to his kins,

> brothers and sisters;

> d. -- 4thC ---no peace & comfort;

> e. --- 5th C --- lot of obstructions in games & amusement;

> f. --- 6thC --- not strong body resistence;

> g. --- 7thC --- not a peaceful married life;

> h. --- 8thC --- prone for Akal Mrityu--- health not proper, loss

> of money etc;

> i. --- 9thC --- poor fate—lots of struggle in life;

> j. ---10thC--- never attain any regulation—loss in every aspect;

> k. ---11th C--- difficulty in realising even small wishes---

> mental state confused;

> l. --- 12thC--- away from his kins & motherland.

>

> It looks like matters of a particular house are destroyed as if

Ketu

> is deposited in that house.

>

> More planets are in const or sub of Rahu more times ups & down---

if

> not, less effect.

>

>

> 5. Some are saying it isn't as bad as papakatrika. One thing

> interesting for 6 & 12 axis --- long-term imprisonment or foreign

> land --- 12H ---for Pandit Nehru altogether more than nine years

in

> jail, between 1921 and 1945 --- for Nelson Mandela more than 27

years

> imprisonment---Western Astrologer and Musician Basil Fearrington

has

> travelled to every corner of the world (more than 16 passports so

> far).

>

>

> Best regards,

> tw

>

>

>

> , ajay sharma

> <ajaysharma0605> wrote:

> >

> > Hii

> > All

> >

> > If there is any one of the planets is with the Rahu &

> > Ketu.. & rest all planets i.e. remaining 6 planets r

> > hemmed between the Rahu & Ketu... then in that case no

> > Kal Sarpa yoga is formed...

> >

> > If I m wrong then pls rectify the error....

> >

> > Regads

> > Ajay

> >

> >

> > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Ritu,

> > > This is a good compilation.

> > > Let members of the group tally with the results of

> > > some known

> > > charts having such Rahu/ketu placements.

> > > My observation is that the various results given

> > > here are more or

> > > less same as the placement of Rahu in that house

> > > irrespective of KSY.

> > > Inder

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Ritu

> > > Lalit"

> > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and

> > > Ketu i.e., the

> > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node

> > > Kaalsarp Yoga is

> > > formed.

> > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of

> > > the chart is

> > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is

> > > outside the Rahu Ketu

> > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > make sure that

> > > all

> > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there

> > > is one planet

> > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does

> > > not exist. do

> > > not

> > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or

> > > Karaka Dosha.

> > > >

> > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the

> > > seventh house and

> > > the

> > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga

> > > which arises is

> > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as

> > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has

> > > the power to

> > > give

> > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for

> > > marital life.

> > > Generally

> > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> > > >

> > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in

> > > the 3rd house

> > > this

> > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the

> > > chart have many

> > > ups

> > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking

> > > lies. They are

> > > also

> > > > short tempered.

> > > >

> > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and

> > > ketu in the

> > > fourth

> > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case.

> > > Punishment by

> > > law

> > > > or the Government also possible. However if this

> > > yoga operates in

> > > a

> > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer

> > > the highest form

> > > of

> > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo

> > > ascendant.

> > > >

> > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the

> > > eighth house

> > > Kulik

> > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for

> > > health. The

> > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with

> > > natives of this

> > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity

> > > too. The native

> > > is

> > > > worried on account of an insecure financial

> > > standing.

> > > >

> > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the

> > > ninth house and

> > > the

> > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the

> > > Rahu Ketu axis

> > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with

> > > problems relating

> > > to

> > > > job and business.

> > > >

> > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th

> > > this yoga is

> > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work

> > > sphere and has to

> > > go

> > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native

> > > has an

> > > illegitimate

> > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However

> > > this yoga also has

> > > the

> > > > power of conferring high political success and

> > > windfall gains.

> > > >

> > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the

> > > eleventh house

> > > this

> > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account

> > > of children.

> > > There

> > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is

> > > also afflicted

> > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by

> > > spirits. In

> > > this

> > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is

> > > slow. There are

> > > also

> > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> > > >

> > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house

> > > and Ketu is in

> > > the

> > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has

> > > problems on

> > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts

> > > beneficially it has

> > > > the power to confer power and political success.

> > > >

> > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the

> > > first house this

> > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative

> > > tendencies and can

> > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling.

> > > There is marital

> > > > discord in the life of the native.

> > > >

> > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the

> > > second house this

> > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and

> > > has many enemies.

> > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social

> > > elements. The

> > > > native does not get paternal wealth.

> > > >

> > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the

> > > fifth house the

> > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > > The native

> > > travels

> > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place.

> > > Problems also arise

> > > from

> > > > children. However these natives get some peace in

> > > the

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The all-new My - What will yours do?

> >

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It's also said that if any planet is conjuct with Rahu or Ketu, KSY

doesn't exist; for Jawarharlal Nehru, KSY is broken by the

conjunction of Jupiter with Ketu; for Sachin Tendulkar (4-10 axis),

KSY is broken by the conjuction of Moon with Rahu. Generally KSY may

not nullify other good yogas in the native's chart; however, may

cause some sudden and severe losses; benefics may break the Yoga.

 

 

, "mahakali108"

<mahakali108> wrote:

>

> -

> if i understand correctly, if rahu leads the kala sarpa yoga, with

> no planet conjunct rahu or ketu (which breaks the yoga) then the

> effects can be devestating, but if kala amrit yoga (ketu leads) is

> formed, then the effects are bad, but less.

>

> my understanding of "having killed a snake in a past life" has to

do

> perhaps with having raised kundalini, and then having abused the

> power, in a past life.

> can anyone shed some opinions on this? of course, some famous

people

> who have it i doubt raised much of anything.

> also, i didnt check the famous people on the list, but do some have

> a planet conjunct one of the nodes?

> kalidas

>

> -- In , "tw853" <tw853> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > JUST FOR INFORMATION

> >

> > 1. It's said so, as mentioned by Ajay Sharma, in another vedic

> > Group's discussion. It may be unconclusive since the Kala Sarpa

> Yoga

> > (KSY) is not mentioned in any of the traditional astrological

> texts

> > from Parashara to Varahamihira.

> >

> >

> > 2. Some KSY articles in website are given below:

> >

> > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money_happiness.htm

> >

> > http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id102.html

> >

> > http://www..org/mantra/sarpa.htm

> >

> > www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com/The_Celestial_Wheel_page2.htm

> >

> >

> > 3. As per defination given by Ritu, other than Jawaharlal Nehru

> > (Asc 24-27 Cencer) with 4/10 Rahu/Ketu axis, some well-known

> people

> > with KSY are as follows:

> >

> > a/ President George W. Bush, Asc 14-06 Cancer, 5-11 axis

> > b/ Nelson Mandela, 2-31 saggitarius, 6/12 axis

> > c/ Margaret Thacher 22-33 Libra, 4-10 axis

> > d/ Benito Mussolini, 28-24 Libra, 1-7 axis

> > e/ Christina Onassis, 2-39 Ta, 5/11 axis

> > f/ Western Astrolger Basil Fearington, 3-56 Capricon, 6/12 axis

> > g/ French erotic writer Anais Nin, 10-54 Virgo, 1/7 axis

> > h/ Athina Roussel, daughter of Christina Onassis, 25-42 Libra, 2/9

> > axis; Athina Roussel picked up an estimated $2.7 billion in cash,

> > homes, companies, art, shares, a private jet and the Greek Ionian

> > island of Skorpios when she celebrated her 18th birthday on

> > Wednesday. She will inherit a further $2 billion on her 21st

> birthday

> > when she will also take control of the Onassis Foundation.

> >

> >

> > 4. Kalsarpa Yoga & K. P. (K.P. & ASTR0LOGY 2002)

> >

> > a. 1st House sub-lord is Rahu--- not a proportionate body.

> > b. Rahu as SubL for 2nd Cusp ---never a satisfactory bank

> > position;

> > c. Rahu as SubL for 3rdC – never happy in relation to his kins,

> > brothers and sisters;

> > d. -- 4thC ---no peace & comfort;

> > e. --- 5th C --- lot of obstructions in games & amusement;

> > f. --- 6thC --- not strong body resistence;

> > g. --- 7thC --- not a peaceful married life;

> > h. --- 8thC --- prone for Akal Mrityu--- health not proper, loss

> > of money etc;

> > i. --- 9thC --- poor fate—lots of struggle in life;

> > j. ---10thC--- never attain any regulation—loss in every aspect;

> > k. ---11th C--- difficulty in realising even small wishes---

> > mental state confused;

> > l. --- 12thC--- away from his kins & motherland.

> >

> > It looks like matters of a particular house are destroyed as if

> Ketu

> > is deposited in that house.

> >

> > More planets are in const or sub of Rahu more times ups & down---

> if

> > not, less effect.

> >

> >

> > 5. Some are saying it isn't as bad as papakatrika. One thing

> > interesting for 6 & 12 axis --- long-term imprisonment or foreign

> > land --- 12H ---for Pandit Nehru altogether more than nine years

> in

> > jail, between 1921 and 1945 --- for Nelson Mandela more than 27

> years

> > imprisonment---Western Astrologer and Musician Basil Fearrington

> has

> > travelled to every corner of the world (more than 16 passports

so

> > far).

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> > tw

> >

> >

> >

> > , ajay sharma

> > <ajaysharma0605> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hii

> > > All

> > >

> > > If there is any one of the planets is with the Rahu &

> > > Ketu.. & rest all planets i.e. remaining 6 planets r

> > > hemmed between the Rahu & Ketu... then in that case no

> > > Kal Sarpa yoga is formed...

> > >

> > > If I m wrong then pls rectify the error....

> > >

> > > Regads

> > > Ajay

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ritu,

> > > > This is a good compilation.

> > > > Let members of the group tally with the results of

> > > > some known

> > > > charts having such Rahu/ketu placements.

> > > > My observation is that the various results given

> > > > here are more or

> > > > less same as the placement of Rahu in that house

> > > > irrespective of KSY.

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Ritu

> > > > Lalit"

> > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and

> > > > Ketu i.e., the

> > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node

> > > > Kaalsarp Yoga is

> > > > formed.

> > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of

> > > > the chart is

> > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is

> > > > outside the Rahu Ketu

> > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > make sure that

> > > > all

> > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there

> > > > is one planet

> > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does

> > > > not exist. do

> > > > not

> > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or

> > > > Karaka Dosha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the

> > > > seventh house and

> > > > the

> > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga

> > > > which arises is

> > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as

> > > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp

> > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has

> > > > the power to

> > > > give

> > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for

> > > > marital life.

> > > > Generally

> > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life .

> > > > >

> > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in

> > > > the 3rd house

> > > > this

> > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the

> > > > chart have many

> > > > ups

> > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking

> > > > lies. They are

> > > > also

> > > > > short tempered.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and

> > > > ketu in the

> > > > fourth

> > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case.

> > > > Punishment by

> > > > law

> > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this

> > > > yoga operates in

> > > > a

> > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer

> > > > the highest form

> > > > of

> > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo

> > > > ascendant.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the

> > > > eighth house

> > > > Kulik

> > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for

> > > > health. The

> > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with

> > > > natives of this

> > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity

> > > > too. The native

> > > > is

> > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial

> > > > standing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the

> > > > ninth house and

> > > > the

> > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the

> > > > Rahu Ketu axis

> > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with

> > > > problems relating

> > > > to

> > > > > job and business.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th

> > > > this yoga is

> > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work

> > > > sphere and has to

> > > > go

> > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native

> > > > has an

> > > > illegitimate

> > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However

> > > > this yoga also has

> > > > the

> > > > > power of conferring high political success and

> > > > windfall gains.

> > > > >

> > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the

> > > > eleventh house

> > > > this

> > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account

> > > > of children.

> > > > There

> > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is

> > > > also afflicted

> > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by

> > > > spirits. In

> > > > this

> > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is

> > > > slow. There are

> > > > also

> > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house

> > > > and Ketu is in

> > > > the

> > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has

> > > > problems on

> > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts

> > > > beneficially it has

> > > > > the power to confer power and political success.

> > > > >

> > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the

> > > > first house this

> > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative

> > > > tendencies and can

> > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling.

> > > > There is marital

> > > > > discord in the life of the native.

> > > > >

> > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the

> > > > second house this

> > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and

> > > > has many enemies.

> > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social

> > > > elements. The

> > > > > native does not get paternal wealth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the

> > > > fifth house the

> > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga.

> > > > The native

> > > > travels

> > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place.

> > > > Problems also arise

> > > > from

> > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in

> > > > the

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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