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To me, there can never be a "Selfless love".

Any "Universal", "Holy", "Pure", "Divinity", etc. is just a mean

excuse or rather confusion of the person. Uhhh... not possible.

Basically, truly, and ultimately - EXISTENCE ITSELF IS SELFISH.

 

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, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> Dear Shripal,

> 1]Jup is a spritual planet. My understanding is that Jup is a

> religious planet.

> 2]Love, understanding, sympathy--- my understanding is that Venus

is

> karaka for these quailiteies.

> 3]Please read texts for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga results . All say

> that such strong Jupitarian have unsatisable lust for sex.

> 4]While Negative and positive parts of Saturn, I could not follow,

> my understanding is that Sat is for celebacy and also for

> dissatisfaction/disappointments in sex life.

> 5]Sex is not joy, and I am absolutely wrong....noted for my

> consumsion/contemplation and digestion.

> 6]I had gone through your articles earlier on Vedic marriage etc

but

> i didnot get the idea from there that Sex is bad and love is good.

> 7]To be very frank, I could never understand what is love. This

word

> is used by everybody in daily life with thousands of different

> meanings. You must be meaning universal love[????] and what is this

> I dont know.

> Inder

>

> , Shripal <d_shripal>

> wrote:

> > Hi Inder and All memebers,

> >

> > A jupiter is a sprirtual planets,It believes in

> > Love,Understanding,sympathy, I am talking about

> > positive influence of Jupiter.If well placed that

> > person leaves Sex after certain age , if other planets

> > are not afflicting him.

> >

> > A very strong Jupiter in 7th I have seen a person not

> > at all involved in sexual activity.He believes in

> > creation,Love,Nature, Understanding very sattvic.And

> > after having a one child or two has never wanted a Sex

> > in Life.

> >

> > While very few person are having a very very strong

> > Saturn(Sattvic), A tapasvee yoga with Saturn.While

> > negative part of Saturn is indulging in Sexual

> > activity

> > and torturing someone, doing wrongful deeds in

> > society.

> >

> > Inder if you thinking Sex is a Joy, Than you are

> > absolutely wrong.It is not at all.you should have read

> > my previos articles about Love. Love is Good, But sex

> > is BAD.A difference is a status of mind, What you are

> > thinking while you are doing.In details read my Vedic

> > Mariage and A way of Life articles.

> >

> > So Jupiter natuarally is Benefic and sattvic,while

> > Saturn is malefic and Tamsic.

> >

> >

> > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Shriphal,

> > > You mean to say that Jupiter is non sexual, anti

> > > indulgence.

> > >

> > > And Saturn is Sexual and indulges.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is joyless and Saturn is joyful?

> > >

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > , Shripal

> > > <d_shripal>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi swadhin,

> > > >

> > > > Every House signifies lots of things,while

> > > analysing a

> > > > chart you have to bring down to only certain parts

> > > of

> > > > it depending upon planet placed and sign of that

> > > > house.

> > > >

> > > > what I have worte about Saturn in 7th is from my

> > > > studies and experience both.

> > > >

> > > > About your satement that you made about indulgence

> > > in

> > > > sex, than you have to see a strength of jupiter in

> > > > chart.If Jupiter is strong than those people never

> > > are

> > > > indulge in those activities.It doesn't matter were

> > > it

> > > > is palced,It got to be very strong.As in any chart

> > > > Jupiter signifies spiritual development of a

> > > person,so

> > > > strength of jupiter is to be checked.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Swadhin <beherajapan> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shripal ji:

> > > > > You are very correct in your observation and

> > > > > suggestions for people

> > > > > with Saturn in 7th. I learned the lesson through

> > > my

> > > > > own experience.

> > > > > After reading through some Jyotish books and

> > > reading

> > > > > your message, I

> > > > > realized that whatever I was doing intuitively

> > > > > actually is the remedy

> > > > > for my problems. I always had strong differences

> > > > > with my

> > > > > subordinates, my colleagues and my wife. My

> > > bosses

> > > > > always used to

> > > > > exploit me for my attitudes. For last three

> > > years I

> > > > > am exactly

> > > > > following Gandhi principle. My life has become

> > > lot

> > > > > better though

> > > > > people have not completely stopped doing

> > > mischief

> > > > > behind me. My wife

> > > > > is happy but she started falling sick often. I

> > > hope

> > > > > she will be OK

> > > > > after some time.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, I am curious to know if those

> > > > > suggestions you gave were

> > > > > from your experience (not necessarily your own)

> > > or

> > > > > you learned them

> > > > > from your studies.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also read that Saturn in 7th people often fall

> > > > > prey to sexual

> > > > > indulgences. All astrologer who checked my

> > > > > horoscopes warned me to be

> > > > > cautious of other women particularly duing

> > > Saturn

> > > > > sub-periods. I have

> > > > > not experienced that problem so much; perhaps

> > > for my

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > inclination from a young age. Do you have

> > > comments

> > > > > on this?

> > > > > Swadhin

> > > > > > Hi Partap and All memebers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't think any planets give really that bad

> > > > > results

> > > > > > in any house.Its about exploring that House.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > First we have to understand a planets and it's

> > > > > > prolictive things towards one's Life.than

> > > where

> > > > > that

> > > > > > planets is placed, that in in what house,for

> > > > > example

> > > > > > Saturn is placed in 7th house.So what does

> > > that

> > > > > Satunr

> > > > > > signifies and what 7th house signifies.Than

> > > for a

> > > > > > given Lagna it is Karaka of what Houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have given my general prediction that:

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > -------------------------

> > > > > > Let us first understand about 7th house in

> > > brief,

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is about marriage,marriage partner and open

> > > > > > enemies.The characteristics which are valued

> > > in

> > > > > > others, and which are sought in a partner, are

> > > > > > symbolised by this house as well as the

> > > > > > characteristics which are possessed by our

> > > enemies

> > > > > and

> > > > > > through which we are vulnerable to opposition.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn is very strong. Saturn makes a person

> > > more

> > > > > > attaracted towards isolation,rejection,pain

> > > and

> > > > > > disappointment until he re-orient himself for

> > > a

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > search.Marriage is always accompanied by

> > > darkness,

> > > > > so

> > > > > > matching should be properly done.Here Saturn

> > > > > signifies

> > > > > > difficulty in marriage and any other

> > > > > relationship.It

> > > > > > is always a other person's fault.So happiness

> > > or

> > > > > > unhappy,luck or unluck always comes from

> > > > > > opponenets.Commonly, isolation or aloneness is

> > > one

> > > > > > sort of restriction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Partner is too serious,older although

> > > > > > faithful,financially solvent and stable.But

> > > > > marital

> > > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he is possessive

> > > and

> > > > > > demanding, or he may bea disappointment simply

> > > > > > because he is incompatible, or abandons the

> > > > > > individual, or causes hurt through emotional

> > > or

> > > > > > physical infidelity

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

-

> > > -

> > > > > -------------

> > > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do meditation,

> > > express

> > > > > > yourself ,try different understanding methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So in order to get a good results for a person

> > > > > having

> > > > > > a Saturn in 7th House, he has to create a

> > > > > > understanding about his partner or wife, What

> > > > > > qualities thety are having and than work that

> > > > > out.So

> > > > > > to tackle Saturn you have to be more

> > > understanding

> > > > > > person,go inner side rather than going

> > > > > outside,don't

> > > > > > try to win by opposition,but rather be like

> > > > > Mahatma

> > > > > > Gandhi,believe in non-violence and faith and

> > > > > > confidence i oneself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you will act against saturn,than you are

> > > bound

> > > > > to

> > > > > > get all bad results that I have said above.So

> > > it's

> > > > > > more about understanding and than action for

> > > your

> > > > > > understanding.And that has to come and it can

> > > be

> > > > > from

> > > > > > anywhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > More you desire,morer you are Happy in your

> > > Life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- partap111 <rbcalla> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Parkash ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought Saturn is not good for 7 thouse.

> > > > > > > Very few people can take maturity needed to

> > > > > > > understand Saturn in

> > > > > > > 7th House.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Partap

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > navlakshya, mangesh

> > > > > > > ramnathkar

> > > > > > > <mangeshrr> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Thanks Prakash

> > > > > > > > Can you suggest in Products in which I can

> > > Do

> > > > > > > > Bussiness ?

> > > > > > > > Regarding my Family, they are Middle class

> > > > > Family

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > All Money was spent on me and my two

> > > brothers

> > > > > > > > education, My dad made me a Computer

> > > Engineer,

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > elder Brother did Pharmacy then did MBA, m

> > > > > younger

> > > > > > > > Borther just completed Architecture, has

> > > given

> > > > > GRE

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > applying to different colleges in USA, HE

> > > is

> > > > > > > planning

> > > > > > > > to come to USA this year...

> > > > > > > > Any way when my Dad retired, He was in bad

> > > > > shape,

> > > > > > > > Financially and emotional, becasue of the

> > > fact

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > no investments what-so-ever, He invested

> > > in

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > Kids'

> > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > MangeshR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the dhanakaraka in your case

> > > occupies

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > > house of

> > > > > > > > > business/partners. So the money will

> > > come

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > business

> > > > > > > > > largely. Saturn's aspect on Capricorn

> > > is

> > > > > good -

> > > > > > > > > increase

> > > > > > > > > enhancement in career will be good.

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > presence in

> > > > > > > > > 7th also reminds me about one more thing

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > may be owning stocks/shares in companies

> > > or

> > > > > > > > > factories of

> > > > > > > > > its own. Yet I think you may not be

> > > having

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > steady

> > > > > > > > > relationships in your family though

> > > being an

> > > > > > > > > orthodox and

> > > > > > > > > deep rooted thinker yourself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You may not have been an activie

> > > sportsman

> > > > > > > (physical

> > > > > > > > > games)

> > > > > > > > > but in mental you may have strong

> > > interest.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- mangesh ramnathkar <mangeshrr>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > > > Let me give my experience ..

> > > > > > > > > > I'm Capri Asc

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn is 7 th house

> > > > > > > > > > Birht date 28 feb 1976 4.24am Mumbai

> > > India

> > > > > > > > > > I do have troubles with relationship

> > > as

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > Contracts but to be honest, I love it

> > > as I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > few

> > > > > > > > > > partners but the Best you can ever

> > > get,

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > Loyal, Honest and the very few people

> > > I

> > > > > care

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > MangeshR

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > > > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > U see Saturn is 11th from Moon and

> > > is in

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > greatest

> > > > > > > > > > > friends sign by virtue of being in

> > > > > Pisces.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Occupies favourable position from

> > > both

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > > > > > > and Aquarius i.e. 3rd from 5th and

> > > 2nd

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > 6th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 5th lord

> > > > > > > > > > > in 7th is a rajayoga in any case.

> > > From

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > YK and occupies 11th house so all in

> > > all

> > > > > > > good is

> > > > > > > > > > > indicated.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house pertaining to Mars gives

> > > > > sportsman

> > > > > > > > > spirit

> > > > > > > > > > > or high

> > > > > > > > > > > involvement is sports etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > One of the individual's I came

> > > across

> > > > > > > (can't

> > > > > > > > > share

> > > > > > > > > > > data,

> > > > > > > > > > > > sorry) has

> > > > > > > > > > > > kanya rising, saturn in 7th.

> > > Married a

> > > > > > > > > classfellow

> > > > > > > > > > > at age

> > > > > > > > > > > > of 22 -

> > > > > > > > > > > > handsome guy, physician and

> > > > > > > semi-professional

> > > > > > > > > > > sportsman,

> > > > > > > > > > > > same age +/-

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1 year or less, has a wonderful

> > > > > marriage,

> > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > beautiful

> > > > > > > > > > > > kids, lot

> > > > > > > > > > > > richer than anyone else in her six

> > > > > > > generations

> > > > > > > > > > > (maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > > more) before

> > > > > > > > > > > > including around (contemporary) --

> > > > > > > brilliant

> > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > along,

> > > > > > > > > > > > very gifted

> > > > > > > > > > > > and achieved a lot already. Very

> > > > > > > disciplined

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > very beginning

> > > > > > > > > > > > of life. As an aside, has two

> > > > > headlines!

> > > > > > > Very

> > > > > > > > > > > endearing

> > > > > > > > > > > > personality,

> > > > > > > > > > > > nothing saturnine about her. Has

> > > moon

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > navlakshya,

> > > > > Shripal

> > > > > > > > > > > > <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rupji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us first understand about

> > > 7th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > brief, it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is about marriage,marriage

> > > partner

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > open

> > > > > > > > > > > > > enemies.The characteristics

> > > which

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > valued

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > others, and which are sought in

> > > a

> > > > > > > partner,

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > symbolised by this house as well

> > > as

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics which are

> > > possessed

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > > enemies and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > through which we are vulnerable

> > > to

> > > > > > > > > opposition.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Know saturn in 7th is digbala,

> > > very

> > > > > > > strong.

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > > > > makes a person more attaracted

> > > > > towards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation,rejection,pain and

> > > > > > > disappointment

> > > > > > > > > > > until he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > re-orient himself for a inner

> > > > > > > > > search.Marriage is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > always accompanied by darkness,

> > > so

> > > > > > > matching

> > > > > > > > > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > properly done.Here Saturn

> > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > difficulty

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage and any other

> > > > > relationship.It

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > other person's fault.So

> > > happiness or

> > > > > > > > > > > unhappy,luck or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unluck always comes from

> > > > > > > > > opponenets.Commonly,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation or aloneness is one

> > > sort

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > restriction.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Partner is too serious,older

> > > > > although

> > > > > > > > > > > > > faithful,financially solvent and

> > > > > > > stable.But

> > > > > > > > > > > marital

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he

> > > is

> > > > > > > > > possessive

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > demanding, or he may bea

> > > > > disappointment

> > > > > > > > > simply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because he is incompatible, or

> > > > > abandons

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > individual, or causes hurt

> > > through

> > > > > > > emotional

> > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > physical infidelity

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do

> > > > > > > meditation,

> > > > > > > > > > > express

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself ,try different

> > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > methods.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rup Krishen Baqaya

> > > > > <rkbaqaya>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Raghu saturn in the

> > > seventh.In

> > > > > > > fact i

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about saturn in the

> > > > > > > eighth,but

> > > > > > > > > let ur

> > > > > > > > > > > view

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prevail.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those with saturn in the

> > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the fortune of being in the

> > > > > company of

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > spouse

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for long.The spouse could fall

> > > > > sick or

> > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > die.Otherwise the spouse may

> > > be a

> > > > > sad

> > > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with no zest for life.In the

> > > > > > > horoscopes of

> > > > > > > > > > > females

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in seventh may indicate

> > > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > > with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > widower or an old person.The

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > may be

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