Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 The information presented by you about sexual issues is certainly fantastic. I hope that this is not mere information arising out of mental concotion of your fertile imagination after reading books on philosphy and religion, but rather useful knowledge arrived at by long years of personal and practical experience. So, to deal with 7th House matters of a chart in a scholarly manner as you have pretensed, you need to have indulged in a statistical minimum amount of sexual encounters ( at least 9, going by HINDU astrology, 1 for each planet and almost infinite number for other cases of ASPECTS, CONJUNCTIONS and many other such combinations etc.) with various female specimens. So, my question to you Mr. Doshi is: In your rather young life of about 2 and half decades do you lay claim to the above required encounters ? I am highly doubtful, because had you done so, you would not have had the time to write these papers, but would have been busy gathering these species in the first place !! And then why bother about astrology, you are already experiencing heavenly delight on Earth as Shree Tanvir ji says. Shripal <d_shripal wrote: Hi Inder, Venus is manipulative planet,so I don't consider it as doing any thing without receving from someone. Religious means towards spiritualism.But alone cannot give that result,Ofcourse requires help from other planets.But without jupiter it is not possible also ..So spiritual planet.Or I will say a person living a ideal life if a jupiter doesn't get help from other planets towards spiritualism. Love is a nothing but a emotion.Everyone has different definition for themselves.Real thing about Love you will come to know,when totally devoted or attached to GOD or something in these world, as everthing in these world represents GOD, GOD is everywhere. I don't beleive these statement,what do ou mean by strong jupiter, insatiable towards lust.I think other factors are working and jupiter is acting from outside.Give me examples. About Saturn you wrote I agree that.One part is celibacy,while other is unsatisfaction in Life. Hope that Time will come to understand about Love or I will say a path towards attaining a state of Love. --- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear Shripal, > 1]Jup is a spritual planet. My understanding is that > Jup is a > religious planet. > 2]Love, understanding, sympathy--- my understanding > is that Venus is > karaka for these quailiteies. > 3]Please read texts for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga > results . All say > that such strong Jupitarian have unsatisable lust > for sex. > 4]While Negative and positive parts of Saturn, I > could not follow, > my understanding is that Sat is for celebacy and > also for > dissatisfaction/disappointments in sex life. > 5]Sex is not joy, and I am absolutely wrong....noted > for my > consumsion/contemplation and digestion. > 6]I had gone through your articles earlier on Vedic > marriage etc but > i didnot get the idea from there that Sex is bad and > love is good. > 7]To be very frank, I could never understand what is > love. This word > is used by everybody in daily life with thousands of > different > meanings. You must be meaning universal love[????] > and what is this > I dont know. > Inder > > , Shripal > <d_shripal> > wrote: > > Hi Inder and All memebers, > > > > A jupiter is a sprirtual planets,It believes in > > Love,Understanding,sympathy, I am talking about > > positive influence of Jupiter.If well placed that > > person leaves Sex after certain age , if other > planets > > are not afflicting him. > > > > A very strong Jupiter in 7th I have seen a person > not > > at all involved in sexual activity.He believes in > > creation,Love,Nature, Understanding very > sattvic.And > > after having a one child or two has never wanted a > Sex > > in Life. > > > > While very few person are having a very very > strong > > Saturn(Sattvic), A tapasvee yoga with Saturn.While > > negative part of Saturn is indulging in Sexual > > activity > > and torturing someone, doing wrongful deeds in > > society. > > > > Inder if you thinking Sex is a Joy, Than you are > > absolutely wrong.It is not at all.you should have > read > > my previos articles about Love. Love is Good, But > sex > > is BAD.A difference is a status of mind, What you > are > > thinking while you are doing.In details read my > Vedic > > Mariage and A way of Life articles. > > > > So Jupiter natuarally is Benefic and sattvic,while > > Saturn is malefic and Tamsic. > > > > > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shriphal, > > > You mean to say that Jupiter is non sexual, anti > > > indulgence. > > > > > > And Saturn is Sexual and indulges. > > > > > > Jupiter is joyless and Saturn is joyful? > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > , Shripal > > > <d_shripal> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi swadhin, > > > > > > > > Every House signifies lots of things,while > > > analysing a > > > > chart you have to bring down to only certain > parts > > > of > > > > it depending upon planet placed and sign of > that > > > > house. > > > > > > > > what I have worte about Saturn in 7th is from > my > > > > studies and experience both. > > > > > > > > About your satement that you made about > indulgence > > > in > > > > sex, than you have to see a strength of > jupiter in > > > > chart.If Jupiter is strong than those people > never > > > are > > > > indulge in those activities.It doesn't matter > were > > > it > > > > is palced,It got to be very strong.As in any > chart > > > > Jupiter signifies spiritual development of a > > > person,so > > > > strength of jupiter is to be checked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Swadhin <beherajapan> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji: > > > > > You are very correct in your observation and > > > > > suggestions for people > > > > > with Saturn in 7th. I learned the lesson > through > > > my > > > > > own experience. > > > > > After reading through some Jyotish books and > > > reading > > > > > your message, I > > > > > realized that whatever I was doing > intuitively > > > > > actually is the remedy > > > > > for my problems. I always had strong > differences > > > > > with my > > > > > subordinates, my colleagues and my wife. My > > > bosses > > > > > always used to > > > > > exploit me for my attitudes. For last three > > > years I > > > > > am exactly > > > > > following Gandhi principle. My life has > become > > > lot > > > > > better though > > > > > people have not completely stopped doing > > > mischief > > > > > behind me. My wife > > > > > is happy but she started falling sick often. > I > > > hope > > > > > she will be OK > > > > > after some time. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, I am curious to know if those > > > > > suggestions you gave were > > > > > from your experience (not necessarily your > own) > > > or > > > > > you learned them > > > > > from your studies. > > > > > > > > > > I also read that Saturn in 7th people often > fall > > > > > prey to sexual > > > > > indulgences. All astrologer who checked my > > > > > horoscopes warned me to be > > > > > cautious of other women particularly duing > > > Saturn > > > > > sub-periods. I have > > > > > not experienced that problem so much; > perhaps > > > for my > > > > > spiritual > > > > > inclination from a young age. Do you have > > > comments > > > > > on this? > > > > > Swadhin > > > > > > Hi Partap and All memebers, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think any planets give really that > bad > > > > > results > > > > > > in any house.Its about exploring that > House. > > > > > > > > > > > > First we have to understand a planets and > it's > > > > > > prolictive things towards one's Life.than > > > where > > > > > that > > > > > > planets is placed, that in in what > house,for > > > > > example > > > > > > Saturn is placed in 7th house.So what does > > > that > > > > > Satunr > > > > > > signifies and what 7th house > signifies.Than > > > for a > > > > > > given Lagna it is Karaka of what Houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I have given my general prediction > that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Let us first understand about 7th house in > > > brief, > > > > > it > > > > > > is about marriage,marriage partner and > open > > > > > > enemies.The characteristics which are > valued > > > in > > > > > > others, and which are sought in a partner, > are > > > > > > symbolised by this house as well as the > > > > > > characteristics which are possessed by our > > > enemies > > > > > and > > > > > > through which we are vulnerable to > opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is very strong. Saturn makes a > person > > > more > > > > > > attaracted towards > isolation,rejection,pain > > > and > > > > > > disappointment until he re-orient himself > for > > > a > > > > > inner > > > > > > search.Marriage is always accompanied by > > > darkness, > > > > > so > > > > > > matching should be properly done.Here > Saturn > > > > > signifies > > > > > > difficulty in marriage and any other > > > > > relationship.It > > > > > > is always a other person's fault.So > happiness > > > or > > > > > > unhappy,luck or unluck always comes from > > > > > > opponenets.Commonly, isolation or > aloneness is > > > one > > > > > > sort of restriction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Partner is too serious,older although > > > > > > faithful,financially solvent and > stable.But > > > > > marital > > > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he is > possessive > > > and > > > > > > demanding, or he may bea disappointment > simply > > > > > > because he is incompatible, or abandons > the > > > > > > individual, or causes hurt through > emotional > > > or > > > > > > physical infidelity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do meditation, > > > express > > > > > > yourself ,try different understanding > methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > So in order to get a good results for a > person > > > > > having > > > > > > a Saturn in 7th House, he has to create a > > > > > > understanding about his partner or wife, > What > > > > > > qualities thety are having and than work > that > > > > > out.So > > > > > > to tackle Saturn you have to be more > > > understanding > > > > > > person,go inner side rather than going > > > > > outside,don't > > > > > > try to win by opposition,but rather be > like > > > > > Mahatma > > > > > > Gandhi,believe in non-violence and faith > and > > > > > > confidence i oneself. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you will act against saturn,than you > are > > > bound > > > > > to > > > > > > get all bad results that I have said > above.So > > > it's > > > > > > more about understanding and than action > for > > > your > > > > > > understanding.And that has to come and it > can > > > be > > > > > from > > > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > More you desire,morer you are Happy in > your > > > Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- partap111 <rbcalla> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parkash ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought Saturn is not good for 7 > thouse. > > > > > > > Very few people can take maturity needed > to > > > > > > > understand Saturn in > > > > > > > 7th House. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partap Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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