Jyotish/Astrology as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology, 3/6/05 Part II - Comparing Christianity to J/A

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Jyotish/Astrology as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology

 

 

 

 

As a follow up to the last discussion we had about J/A, as the Ultimate

Self-Improvement, Technology, I thought it might be interesting to go into

more details.

 

For example, why does J/A, qualify as the best self-improvement

technologies?

 

Perhaps, the main reason is that 'all' Philosophys, all Religions, all

'isms', all different 'ideas', can be found in one aspect of J/A, or

another.

 

For example, those that espouse, paying more attention to oneSelf, and

following one's dreams, or inner-voice, can be described as following the

Philosophy of the lst House in J/A.

 

For those who are on a path of 'food', or trying to diet, eat better, and

basically change one's ways, associated with 'eatings' of all kinds; the

Philosophy and technology of the 2nd House in Astrology covers that 'angle'.

 

Some people are communicators, they espouse, opening up to listening to what

the other person has to say, and striving to be better communicators. The

Philosophy of the 3rd House in Astrology covers all communications.

 

Others still, talk about life in terms of the heart, and being more in-tune

with one's feelings, and even the sense of 'Mother's at home', or even

Mother-God. The obvious significations of the 4th House in Astrology covers

this angle.

 

Then there are others who are more interested in a kind of traditional

'education' approach to life. From grade school, through higher education,

and eventually even, the higher - education of the Self, through Mantras;

the Realities of the 5th House cover this approach to life.

 

Others are on a 'health' kick, so to speak. Depending upon their nature or

perspective, there are people who emphasize improving one's health as the

panamount, most important thing to do or be in-tune with. The 6th House in

Astrology covers this angle quite nicely. Depending upon whether one has

Planets in the 6th House, or aspecting the 6th House, or influencing the 6th

House Lord, one will have a strong part of one's life, focused on health!

 

Ever wonder why so many people are fascinated by the 'relationships' angle

to life? It's occured to me, that not only is the 7th House a very

important, strategically placed House, but it's also a natural 'mirror' of

the 1st House, or myself. Therefore, all manners of Wisdoms relatiting to

relationships and the phenomena of creating unity from '2' or diversity is

glimpsed at through the 7th House, and it's accompanying realities.

 

Jyotish itself, is also a path. It may include all other paths, but it's

particulars are also specific and the precise details glimpsed by the 8th

House in Astrology.

 

Then there are all those who are so focused on God and Religion, organized

or not. For these, the realities of the 9th House are enlivened.

 

Others, still, focus their life energy through their 'work'. Either they're

work-acholics, or their definition of themselves and their evolution is

'work' related. For such individuals or Philosophys, the 10th House is

supreme, or vital.

 

How many of you know others who are consumed with 'money' realities and

matters? The 11th House & 12th Houses in J/A, are the obvious 'money'

Houses, and people who have Planets in those Houses, or their Lords,

occuping very important, and even strategic influences in one's chart, casts

a material, financial perspective on life.

 

Finally, there are those, who come from a completely different, almost

'transcendental' perspective in life. These are the dreamers, the poets,

the authors, the visionaries, and seers. For all these, the 12th House in

Astrology, and/or the 12th Sign of Pisces, dominates and is strongly

influencing their every day life's details.

 

You can look at any and every Philosophy or Religion, and can't help but

find it's 'roots' in the tradition and history of Astrology.

 

Now, let's take a couple modern day Philosophys and see how they exist and

find their roots and realities in the 'Realities' of Astrology.

 

 

My first thought was to compare the realities of Christianity, to

Jyotish/Astrology. After a few 'google' searches I realized that the range

of different Philosophies and aspects of Christianity is emmense. I decided

then, to pick one or two simple descriptions to get a sense as to how J/A,

can help us understand 'this' and any Philosophy, and ultimately give even

more profound wisdom and clarity.

 

>From one modern day Christian, we have: John Stoll, PH.D, a Christian

Professor and Professional Counselor.

 

(See:http://www.leaderu.com/offices/stoll/maturity/chap31.html - for

source)

 

Copyright 1996, John H. Stoll

 

 

The Bible states that we are composed of Spirit, Soul, and Body (I

Thessalonians 5:23). The Spirit is the life we have in Christ, the Soul is

our will/emotions/mind, and our Body is the flesh. All three elements of

ourself either positively or negatively interact with each other,

constantly. To impact one element of our self, is to touch the other two.

Therefore, we need to address all three elements simultaneously, in order to

come to wholeness of life. Biblical psychotherapy is able to meet the needs

of both the Spirit and the Soul, and medical help is able to meet the needs

of the body.

 

I liked this expression because it touches on so many different aspects of

the comprehensive Astrology.

 

Number one, he says the 'Bible states that we are composed of Spirit, Soul,

and Body..." He then goes on to explain. "The Spirit is the life we have

in Christ, the Soul is our will/emotions/mind, and our Body is the flesh."

 

To me, this aspect of 'spirit' or soul or essence is understood by the

realities of the 9th and 12th Houses, and also the Sun, in our charts.

 

God himself, and probably Christ too, therefore, can be found in the 9th

house. How one feels about God, how intimate one feels towards him, the

relationship one has with one's Creator, are some of the interests and

domain of one's 9th House, and one's Sun.

 

The Soul, Mr. Stoll defines as "our will/emotions/mind, ..." which I take

to be the Moon in our Charts, though J/A, discusses the 'will' as being

related to the Sun,.... and 'mind' has having both a Moonish element to it,

as well as one understood by one's Mercury.

 

The 'essence' to me, of what he said, is our 'soul's' are related to our

interior, our individualities, and our 'emotional selves. This is

definitely the Moon!

 

And, finally, "the body", ... is the flesh!, means the lst House in J/A.

The first house is the body, and the birth, descriptions of the Physical

body, body-type; all these are glimpsed at through the lst House.

 

What I find the most fascinating is that we can find the realities of this

man's general Philosophy and particular individual expressions in the

complete range of J/A.

 

What's even more profound, is that the Wisdom of Astrology, as it descends

down into the details of every person's individual chart, explains the

complexities, and precise details of each person's individuality, especially

in reference to something as complex as Philosophy or Religion.

 

I'll give you one example. I'm thinking of my chart, since I know myself

the best, hehe.

 

Oh, yes, one more thing I forgot to mention is that J/A, also defines the

Planet Guru as being intimately involved with the teaching of Religion, God,

and Spirituality.

 

Now, back to my chart; ever since I was young I had a keen interest in God,

and was involved in my Christian, Episcopalian, church and was very

Philosophical and inquisitive.

 

When I look now at my chart, I can see those perspectives. I was curious,

and Philosophical with a high degree of faith. To me, this describes fairly

well, the realities of Jupiter in Pisces in my chart.

 

However, I also had a very analytic approach to faith, and I was very

skeptical, and one of my favorite saints was 'doubting' Thomas!, hehe. I

really grilled all my professors, and was very precise and didn't take

anything as gospel!, so to speak.

 

To me, this explains my Moon in Virgo. At the same time, I had both my

Jupiter & Moon, both in 2 very different energies, and both aspecting each

other.

 

And finally, over time, I majored in Philosophy in college and enjoyed

emmensely studying all manners of Philosophy, Religion and even science.

For years, I almost thought, if I could just come to understand: God and

Reality, I'd finally, 'get-it'!

 

Then, when I started studying J/A, I realized I had quite the Mercury

approach to Reality. In my chart, Mercury rules both my 9th & 12th houses,

and that, helped explain why I thought I could understand life, and reality,

through the intellect.

 

This is because Mercury or Intellect rules these two houses, of Gemini &

Virgo.

 

Moon, however, in addition to being in Virgo, also was in my 12th house,

which is has a strong interest in the separate, non-linear realities of the

'transcendental' self. So, eventually I became very interested in direct

experience through meditation, and that helped me transcend the limitations

and characteristics of the linear, Mercury nature of my 9th House.

 

I even can see, now, why I was attracted to the 'mantra' time of meditation,

because Moon is not only in the 12th but with my Saturn which is the ruler

of my 5th house which is the House of mantras!

 

In future writings I think it would be fun to look at any of the many other

common, Practices of Self-Help Philosophies and groups that exist today...

 

In fact....

 

If any of you has a particular interest in any of these, let me know and we

can research that 'flavor' as well.

 

One of the 'one's' I thought it would be interesting to talk about is the

Philosophy of Tony Robbins. He's a very well known positive thinker and

self-help 'Guru', hehe, and I thought it would be fun looking at his

Philosophy from an Astrological point of view....

 

The essence of our perspective looking at the World and life, through our

'Astrologys' is that we can see the amazing, individual differences of each

person's life, through the details of each person's charts.

 

 

Nice talking with you, all.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid