2-AST,...Re young lady 's struggles& saturn & your upcoming Jyotish course?, > Mark Kincaid 3/26

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Dear Mark ,

Thanks a lot for the mail, your promptness in replying shows your compassion

and concern for humanity. I certainly would share it with the person to make

sure she picks up all the pointers .

 

Dear AsT:

 

See below, for more.

 

as T <ast77us

Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:32:10 +0000 (GMT)

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

Re: 2-AST,...Re: young lady 's struggle to make a difference,

& her rising sign, > Mark Kincaid 3/26

 

 

Dear Mark ,

Thanks a lot for the mail, your promptness in replying shows your compassion

and concern for humanity. I certainly would share it with the person to make

sure she picks up all the pointers .

If my question sounds stupid you have to excuse me as my knowledge is very

limited here . As per her eastern astrological chart , she is running venus

dasa with venus sub dasa, and come june 2005, she is entering subdasa of

moon in venus maha dasa. So where are these saturn effects coming to her

from?

 

Saturn effects can come from Saturn dasas, transits, or even our charts!

 

They're of course more pronounced during Saturn transits and dasas.

 

But, if an effect sounds like Saturn, and the Jyotish chart, depicts a

malefic functioning Sani, then, it's a good bet, it's Saturn that's asking

for attention...

 

 

 

Or is it because she has saturn in 10th house,and this saturn will cause

these permanent effects on her unless she knows how to manage her saturn

and control her destiny. Please clarify.

 

Yes, Saturn in the 10th, but also especially because of it's close proximity

to Jupiter,

and it's aspect upon the Moon, in the 4th...

 

But, I don't believe the negatives of Jyotish or life, need to go on either

forever, or for the entirety of such and such dasa or transit period.

 

I believe the consequences of our actions, are there until they mirror back

to us, a realization that 'oh'... I need to change this thing...

 

Whether it's slowing down, because we're accident prone or, getting more

rest because

we're chronically tired, or sick, ....etc.

 

Once she develops the desire to get more in-tune with her Saturn, then

immediately things

can start to change and improve!

 

 

 

How are moon and venus aspecting in her chart?

 

 

Moon is good, especially because of it's being in the 4thhouse, and aspect

from Jupiter.

 

Venus is also even better because Venus is in libra, it's own sign....!!

 

 

I am in Hyderabad india, I would also like to try your astrology classes as

a beginner. What is the difference between auditing and the regular course

work?

 

Auditing is for those who really have no available finances to invest in

their future.

 

Auditing at least, will allow people to study the principles, articles and

course work,

much like a very good book.

 

Auditing students will also be able to study the correspondences of others,

though not,

receive personal feedback.

 

 

If I try your course work for 2 months, and am able to comprehend the

principles, and choose to continue for a year, will you also then help us

analyse our personal chart.

 

 

Yes, that's my idea, to set up a situation so people can get exposed to real

good, and personal Jyotish. So, if you decide to opt for the whole course,

then, you can receive

your personal reading too.

 

 

For 2 months you mentioed some where that it is & 25 dollars ( trial), what

would be the balance amount if I chose to continue after 2 months?

 

 

If you can pay for the entire year, at once, I'll allow that $ 175.00 rate,

minus the trial

amount.

 

 

Are we allowed to pay every two months?

 

 

If paying every 2 months is easier, then you can do that, too.

 

Please just let me know in your initial registering which option you'd like

to try.

 

 

 

Looking forward to your reply.

with many many thanks ,

AST

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

The , to register for my year long course, is:

 

StudingYourStars/

 

 

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

Dear AsT:

 

Regarding the young lady's chart, see below:

 

 

 

as T <ast77us

Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:44:57 +0000 (GMT)

, m.kincaid

Re: 2-AST,...Re: young lady 's struggle to make a difference,

& her rising sign, > Mark Kincaid 3/26

 

 

Dear Mark,

Here are the details

 

 

Ascendent Sagittarius

latitude 16:34: north

Longitude 81:35: east

Time/ 9.26 am

Nov 19th 1980

sun sign scorpio

Hope this will suffice

Regards,

AST

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

Dear AST:

 

Please also list her rising sign.

 

ciao

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

as T <ast77us

 

Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:53:24 +0000 (GMT)

 

young lady 's struggle to make a difference to the world, will

her dream be fulfilled?

 

 

 

Dear friends at jotish remedy group,

 

This is the chart of a girl Born on NOV 19th , 1980

 

POB : Bhimavaram, west godavari district. AP

 

Time 9.26 am

 

This girl an idealist, who wants to make a difference to the world is

striving hard to make a living in a professional area where she can also

contribute to the poorer sections of the world. Her opportunities are

limited but her dreams are many. This girl truely has a divine mind.

 

Her Moon in Pisces has an ideal, divine mind type of quality. Especially

because the Lord

of Pisces, Jupiter, is in the opposite sign and house, fully aspecting it's

own home, and the Moon,

giving a very special Jyotish yoga.

 

Her struggle started since she was 7 year old going through many global

transitions ( because of family) Finally she has to stay back alone at the

age of 17 years away from family at a college abroad.

 

Separations from anything really are of course due to Saturn.

 

And Saturn in her 10th house, fully aspects the 4th house of home, and

mother, and in it's

3rd house aspect, also influences her Sun, and Father which is in the 12th

house.

 

Sun in 12th also will give distance and loss from joys of 'father'.

 

While girls of her age

were enjoying the cozy/protective environment of parents ,she was struggling

on her own thousands of miles away from her parents. Although she is

briliant and hard working, luck was not on her side

 

Actually, luck was on her side, at least the 'luck' of her malefic planets.

 

I used to say it that way, but now I realize the struggles and challenges,

in life, are

nature's blessings in disguise, so that we grow in the areas that we need to

grow in.

 

 

and she could not get it

into the ivy colleges she desired to get into nor get in to the programs she

desired. Finally she joined a college but not of ivy league category but

she got merit scholarship to study.

 

There's an interesting mixture of good and poor karma associated with higher

education,

due to the 5th house.

 

Mars rules Aries, which is the sign of the 5th and Mars/Lord of the 5th is

in the 1st house,

which is a good yoga, however...

 

Mars is also the 12th house lord, and being in the 1st house, brings also

losses, to the individual, and in this case education as well.

 

 

So far so good ,So what is the problem right?!

 

Few examples just to throw some light on her back ground and her activities

she listed in her resume .

 

while studying for college she was part of many volunteer organizations

like "bread for the city", and recruited and managed student volunteers to

run various programs for the poor, along with it she also managed a health

clinic for the poor. This was a very tough period for her with daily

strugggles and she went through many many stressful and challenging days as

she was trying to balance her studies and her passion for community

development. She was almost burnt out at the end of this.

 

she also managed a program for the love of the children (FLOC) and

implemented an intensive in-school back to basics curriculum aimed towards

bringing below-basic Public School students back to grade level. ( This was

when she was 18- 19 years of age) Again lot of struggle to run such

volunteer program.

 

With daily chats with her I know all the struggle she went through. This

struggle for society was never ending for her , as it started for her when

she was in 5th grade itself, where she participated in plays to raise funds

to run programs for the poor. She participated at the age of 11 to help run

few after school activities , and health centers for the poor children while

being a child her self. ( 11- 15 years)

 

 

It seems to me she has this really great pious side to her, with Moon in

fourth, being fully

aspected by a good Jupiter....

 

however, she needs to understand that she needs to grow within the wisdoms

of Saturn,

 

Of course, this is true for most of us, that's why Saturn's thought of as

the main malefic

influence in life and Jyotish.

 

>From age 15 - 16 she also started having health problems and her enegy

levels were poor.

 

'poor energy levels', is definitely an obvious Saturn sign.

 

What nature is trying to tell us when we're tired, or stressed, or worried,

and even poor

energy levels, is to get more rest!

 

 

 

She was dignosed as having hypothyroid and started gaining

weight to the point she was humiliated about her weight gain by others.

Unfortunaly it is not a major illness but until it gets corrected ,it can

play havoc both on her mental / physical level. Hypothyriodim effects the

whole body/ system. She saw many doctors ,and doctors also vary in their

opinion , anyway ,she is finally taking medications and hope that she will

not have any major problems in the health area. She is trying hard to lose

weight still.

 

She needs to pay special attention to strengthening Saturn....

 

and health problems is an obvious Saturn symptom.

 

She needs to get more rest, realize all success in life, depends on how well

rested, and silent

we are.

 

What is the expression? "The whole success, today, depends upon our

success at sleep,

at night, the day before."

 

 

 

Her activities were so many including working in community health cells for

the down trodden ,if I go any further it sounds like I have her resume

here, so that is not the idea here. The above examples were only given to

show/prove her passion to help the community from such an young age and they

continued even while being an undergraduate student at a very demanding

school till today. Now that you have an understanding of the character of

this person I have few qestions/doubts about her future.

 

Her dreams are many now, she wants to change the world 's health system. She

sees a dream of making health services available to one and all world wide,

no matter what economic back ground they come from. There is a twinkle in

her eye when she dreams of this.

 

They say, we get involved in the kind of career, that often, helps us face

our own issues.

 

Her focusing on the 'health' of others, hopefully will help her focus on her

own poor

understanding of health.

 

 

She recently went to ethiopia to establish a health clinic for the poor

spending her personal money , although she does not have much personal

resources to spend.

 

Sun in the 12th often feels 'I' can't do it, or make money, or fulfill

desires by myself.

 

So, strengthening the Sun, as if, bringing the Sun out of the 12th, is

always a great thing

to do with this placement.

 

 

Her job is also at risk now. currently she feels very

frustrated that all her activities are like drops in the ocean.

 

'frustations' are a classic symptom, because things do not go as smoothly or

as timely as

we would like due to aggravated Saturn....

 

 

But as soon as we get more rest, and become more patient, everything

associated with

Saturn can smooth out, and become quite glorious.

 

Her

hypothyroidism can also get aggravted with her stress now.

 

'Stress', is an obvious Saturn symptom.

 

 

One of the

symptoms of hypothyroidism is "depression".

 

'Depression' is a natural result of Saturn's, especially because her Saturn

fully aspects

her Moon, and her Sun....

 

'emotion' is a good barometer, for her, regarding how benefic her Saturn is

acting.

 

When she's more in-tune, she'll feel, 'good'.

 

When she's more out of tune, with Saturn, her Moon, will reflect back, to

her, that imbalance...

 

All expressions of aggravated Moon, worrys, anxieties, sadness, shyness, and

depression,

all are signs of aggravated SAturn!

 

Her hypothyroidism coupled

with her frustrations of not finding a right job to get to her goals can

throw her into deep depression. Are there any signs of deep depression in

her chart ?.

 

Again, Saturn's 7th house aspect upon the Moon is the reason.

 

Since her current job also might end soon ,and she is applying

for jobs. She is asked by her parents to quit everything for a while and

stay and relax with her them and prepare for MBA admissions.

 

This is the good, sweet, benediction of her Jupiter.

 

Jupiter, in some ways represents divine parents, and as a result her earthly

parents,

are there to give the voice of Saturn-wise, wisdom!

 

Is this a good

decision?

 

Yes, yes yes!

 

Tell her to make a study of all the strengths and Wisdoms of Saturn, and as

she does this,

and realizes that she needs to grow within Saturn....

 

she'll have the best chance of changeing her karma....

 

All our karma, after all, is just an expression as to the consequences of

our previous actions!

 

The most confusing parts are when karma comes to us from the outside, and we

feel that it's coming to us, undeserved, and we're unjustly being

influenced.

 

But, karma and as you sow so shall you reap, is the greatest wisdom to help

us accept.

 

And, Jyotish is the best tool, because it helps us understand exactly how

and why we're experiencing the karmas or experiences that we do!

 

where is her destiny? which country is she going to live in? Hope

there is a right path waiting for this girl with all the good deeds she

performed in her life.

 

This is a tricky question, because her future depends upon her actions, now.

 

How well she surrenders to Saturn, and to growing within the specific needs

and wisdoms of Saturn, will determine how smoothly or roughly her future is!

 

The good news is her future is in her hands....

 

 

 

she also does not

care about the way she dresses, she doesnot care about any superficials.

These days when boys look for all external things , will this beauty of

brains and heart get a right husband?

 

Her 7th house of partnerships and marriage is also being fully aspected by

her Saturn.

 

So, delays and frustrations here will also be an expression of her

attunement with Saturn.

 

The good news is that as poor as my Saturn was when I was born, I've learned

how to

understand what Saturn has been wishing for me, and as I take...

 

o the extra rest that I need,....and

o meditate more regularly.... and

o learn to be more in-tune with all the cycles of nature, ....that Saturn

represents..

o like the Moon cycle...

 

all the heavily negative symptoms of malefic Saturn, have gone away!

 

 

 

There was a prediction that she will

reach very high levels, do you all see that?

 

They say Saturn issues improve naturally especially after the age of 35, so

it's possible.

 

but, I've known a number of people who didn't grasp the needs of their

Saturn's and died,

early early 50's and late 40's.... so Saturn is an extremely important

planet to get healthy,

with!

 

 

She is afraid to get married also , as she thinks it might put an end to her

dreams. the first thing she wants to know when raised about the subject of

marriage , is this guy going to be caring for the society?

 

This is good that she's a little selective, because any man or woman with as

many career,

or 10th house planets as she has,.... should be with a partner, who

understands

that she has special karma with the public and the world!

 

 

 

To Respected astrologers in the forum , my question here is,

 

1) will this young lady's health be alright? / can she get into good MBA

school?

 

Depends upon how much she grows within Saturn's wisdoms...

 

2) will she get a responsible job in a big NGO, or big organizations like

world bank to fulfill her dreams of making a diffrence to the world. ( she

was with world bank for a 2 years as an intern but could not get permanent

job there)

 

One thing we haven't talked about, is career, and her career, is fully

influenced by Saturn too,

because it's in the 10th house of career, ....

 

So, progress in career, especially because Jupiter's there, depends upon her

deepening,

growth and progress within Saturn!

 

3) will she have a happy marriage and get a spouse who can support her

dreams?.

 

If she rushes and doesn't take the time or is patient enough here, she'll

get a more karmic

mate instead of a more dharmic mate.

 

Again, Saturn aspects this important house, too.

 

It's intereting that all the questions you've been asking are wrapped up,

around her Saturn!

 

Will you all be able to guide this young this lady to walk towards her dream

to make a difference to the world? (If any remedies are required which are

causing hurdles in her path)

 

Yes, Saturn is such a beautiful Vedic Planet....

 

and it's wisdoms for us include, patience, maturity, inner silence, peace,

settledness,...

and divine,....awakening.....

 

So, encourage her to find the sweet, happy, graceful, presence of Saturn....

 

and all those above things can be very happy for her!

 

 

 

with many appreciations for your valuable time spent reading her chart.

 

Regards,

 

AST

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

Astrologer

Teacher of Meditation, and Ayurved.

m.kincaid

641 472-0000.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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