2-All, Kuja dosha ? and what is the deep Astrol. Philosophy behind all malefics...?, > Mark Kincaid, 3/27

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Dear All:

 

Reading Neeraj's words this morning and these thoughts, popping up....

 

(In regards to Mars' potential negative possibility to Mars even in the 2nd

house...)

 

 

Well, it's alllllways something!

hehehe....

 

Though I do find that what's more important then the rule about Mars,

'imbalance' or dosha,

is that people evolve to learn their better skills in relationships.

 

I think, too often, people assume because I have such and such an

Astrological configuration,

I must suffer, in this particular way.

 

But, I believe Jyotish is like life, ....

in the sense that our live's are here to grow...

to improve,....and to change...

 

So, when we finally realize that our chart's are not just examples of our

'fates',...

but ....in fact,....

are expressions of our opportunities!....

and the very reasons why we've come!

 

We should also realize, that life is not just a punishment...

 

but, ....our consequences are....so that we learn.

 

 

And the very minute we learn, something, then, automatically, that negative

consequence,

can stop!

 

Take Mars' accidents for example. If we're a bit accident prone, and

constantly pushing the

envelope, on our actions and 'doings',...

 

we may keep persisting through the little slips, bangings of elbows, and

near catastrophes,...

 

but at some point, it just occurs to us, ....'wow....maybe I'm going too

fast....'

 

It was like that for me, .... I enjoyed my Mars, sooo much...

 

Perhaps because it was in the 10th house,..... but...

 

after 1, 2, and even 3 fairly big accidents,.... when I looked at my chart,

I realized,.... the Sign that my Mars was in wasn't so good, and maybe,....

just maybe,....that represented a message for me, some kind of malefic,....

sign post...

 

"don't go this way".....or

"don't go this time..."

 

And as I took this possibility to heart, and just innocently adjusted my

speed,

just a little,

I found an immediate, lessening of all of my previous accident

'proneness',...

if there is sucha word...

 

That experience, ultimately, was very illuminating because then I

realized,....if I could do

this for just one of my malefics, maybe, there was some kind of 'other'

insights, that my other

malefics,....might bestow....

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

vedic astrology

Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:26:03 -0800 (PST)

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Re: [vedic astrology] 2-Sameer, Re: what is kuja dosha ? and my

Mars/8th house?, > Mark Kincaid

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Hi,

 

Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as kuja

dosha and it is not considered good for longevity of

marriage / bride / groom.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear Sameer:

>

>

> Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

>

> You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

>

> However, unlike all the other configurations, Mars

> in the 8th doesn't

> directly influence the 7th house, due to any of it's

> aspects.

>

> So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being Kuja

> dosha.

>

>

> Also, because the 8th house is the natural house, of

> the sign scorpio, I

> feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

>

> However, then, you need to look at the sign

> rulerships to determine the

> secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> have a scorpio rising, the

> fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord of

> the first in the 8th...

>

> So, we could investigate whether this placement is

> negative for you...

>

> Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> represents qualities and

> characteristics of the Self,

> or 'I', in the 8th house...

>

> The question then, is do you have any of the

> negatives or the positives of

> the 8th house?

>

> Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> compulsions, addictions and

> the like?

>

> If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> malefic influence.

>

> If, however, you don't have any bad habits and on

> the other hand, do have

> good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> positive.

>

> Let me know the answer to these last questions and

> then, I'll advise your

> further.

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

"Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing

> Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid

> Re: what is kuja dosha

>

>

> Dear Mark,

>

> I have Mars in 8th.....what precautions should I

> take

>

> rgds

>

> Sameer

> D.O.B 10th Dec 1975

> T.O.B 07 00am

> P.O.B Bombay-India

>

>

>

>

> -

> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:01 PM

> [vedic astrology] 2-Suresh, Re: Re: what is

> kuja dosha and what

> ifone has it? what are the precautions to be taken?

> > Mark Kincaid

>

> Dear Suresh:

>

> Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of Mars.

>

> Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> dramas and imbalances of the

> 12th house,

> this would be fairly negative.

>

> Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures of

> money and energy, and

> people, do

> to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending too

> much money.... suffer a

> lot of debt and

> grief due to MARS here.

>

> Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> having much positive

> characteristics in the 12th, unless it's in either

> it's Own sign or Exalted.

>

> though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and that

> only contributed to her

> incessent need,

> and expression to spend!

>

> She had all the best reasons why she had to spend,

> but all of them, only

> lead, to our greater

> financial ruin.

>

> Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, and

> I obviously deserved

> her,....

> though I had changed my poor spending ways, from my

> past, due to great

> unhappinesses,

> due to over spending...or under saving....

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

> ps... please include the dob info. so we can verify

> their chart, just in

> case.

>

> Also, there rising sign, if you know it.

>

> pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you send

> back the exact degrees of

> this chart...

>

>

>

>

> "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug

> vedic astrology

> Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> dosha and what if one has

> it?what are the precautions to be taken?

>

>

> Dear suneel ji and other members,

> what if a person has the

> following in his chart,

> At lagna-sun,ven

> 2nd house-mer

> 3rd house-jup

> 4th house-sat,rahu

> 7th house-moon

> 10th house-ket

> 12th house-mars

> According to you if this is taken as an example this

> native has kuja dosha,

> and it is also said that if one has mars in 12th

> house it is very good and

> strong for the chart.What you have to say, please do

> reply.

> with regards

> v.suresh babu

>

> suneel sitaula <astrologernepal wrote:

>

> DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN NATAL

> CHART IF MARS IS

> OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & TWELVETH

> ,THAT IS CALLED

> KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON HAS A

> KUJA DOSH IN HIS

> CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN FEMALE

> CHART , HE WILL BE

> FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO

> OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .

> KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN REMOVE

> DOSH OF MARS

> REGARDS

>

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Hi all,

 

I believe, I was not clear in my words. I intended to

say that "Mars in 8th house (i.e. 2nd from 7th house)"

is malefic and not mars in second house. Even I do not

consider Kuja Dosha, if mars is placed in Second

house.

 

Hope, I am clear this time.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear All:

>

> Reading Neeraj's words this morning and these

> thoughts, popping up....

>

> (In regards to Mars' potential negative possibility

> to Mars even in the 2nd

> house...)

>

>

> Well, it's alllllways something!

> hehehe....

>

> Though I do find that what's more important then the

> rule about Mars,

> 'imbalance' or dosha,

> is that people evolve to learn their better skills

> in relationships.

>

> I think, too often, people assume because I have

> such and such an

> Astrological configuration,

> I must suffer, in this particular way.

>

> But, I believe Jyotish is like life, ....

> in the sense that our live's are here to grow...

> to improve,....and to change...

>

> So, when we finally realize that our chart's are not

> just examples of our

> 'fates',...

> but ....in fact,....

> are expressions of our opportunities!....

> and the very reasons why we've come!

>

> We should also realize, that life is not just a

> punishment...

>

> but, ....our consequences are....so that we learn.

>

>

> And the very minute we learn, something, then,

> automatically, that negative

> consequence,

> can stop!

>

> Take Mars' accidents for example. If we're a bit

> accident prone, and

> constantly pushing the

> envelope, on our actions and 'doings',...

>

> we may keep persisting through the little slips,

> bangings of elbows, and

> near catastrophes,...

>

> but at some point, it just occurs to us,

> ....'wow....maybe I'm going too

> fast....'

>

> It was like that for me, .... I enjoyed my Mars,

> sooo much...

>

> Perhaps because it was in the 10th house,.....

> but...

>

> after 1, 2, and even 3 fairly big accidents,....

> when I looked at my chart,

> I realized,.... the Sign that my Mars was in wasn't

> so good, and maybe,....

> just maybe,....that represented a message for me,

> some kind of malefic,....

> sign post...

>

> "don't go this way".....or

> "don't go this time..."

>

> And as I took this possibility to heart, and just

> innocently adjusted my

> speed,

> just a little,

> I found an immediate, lessening of all of my

> previous accident

> 'proneness',...

> if there is sucha word...

>

> That experience, ultimately, was very illuminating

> because then I

> realized,....if I could do

> this for just one of my malefics, maybe, there was

> some kind of 'other'

> insights, that my other

> malefics,....might bestow....

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

> vedic astrology

> Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:26:03 -0800 (PST)

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] 2-Sameer, Re: what is

> kuja dosha ? and my

> Mars/8th house?, > Mark Kincaid

>

>

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Hi,

>

> Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

> house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

> house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as

> kuja

> dosha and it is not considered good for longevity of

> marriage / bride / groom.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

> --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

>

> > Dear Sameer:

> >

> >

> > Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

> >

> > You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> > suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> > Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

> >

> > However, unlike all the other configurations, Mars

> > in the 8th doesn't

> > directly influence the 7th house, due to any of

> it's

> > aspects.

> >

> > So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being Kuja

> > dosha.

> >

> >

> > Also, because the 8th house is the natural house,

> of

> > the sign scorpio, I

> > feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

> >

> > However, then, you need to look at the sign

> > rulerships to determine the

> > secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> > have a scorpio rising, the

> > fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord of

> > the first in the 8th...

> >

> > So, we could investigate whether this placement is

> > negative for you...

> >

> > Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> > represents qualities and

> > characteristics of the Self,

> > or 'I', in the 8th house...

> >

> > The question then, is do you have any of the

> > negatives or the positives of

> > the 8th house?

> >

> > Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> > compulsions, addictions and

> > the like?

> >

> > If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> > malefic influence.

> >

> > If, however, you don't have any bad habits and on

> > the other hand, do have

> > good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> > positive.

> >

> > Let me know the answer to these last questions and

> > then, I'll advise your

> > further.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing

> > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid

>

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