Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Mark, can u also please give the positives and negative effects of Jupiter......... Thanks, Divya , Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > Dear Mark, > > Wonderful exposition of the point .. if its not asking too much, it will be > very useful if you can indicate the positives and negatives of all the 9 > planets ... > > Also I am curious to know how these negative and positive traits manifest > per the lordships .. > > Say what negative/positive qualities of saturn show up > naturally for capricorn as against the aquarius .. > > I sometimes wonder and think that the whole process of a person being born > in different signs in different births is to learn to balance the qualities > shown by that particular sign .. > > In effect one way to salvation is when the soul is wise enough to experience > all the 12 ziodiacs and learns to balance all the positive and negatives > given by them ... > > which is what Spirituality of asthanga Yoga is all about ... balance and > transcendance !! > > Thanks! > > > Surya Vishnu > > > > 3/4/05 > > > Dear Surya: > > > You said: "if its not asking too much, it will be very useful if you can > indicate the positives and negatives of all the 9 planets ..." > > In short one could say with each planet, there are a number of Jyotish rules > that would lead one to suspect whether or not any Planet is acting > malefically. > > However, there's another way to answer this. > > One can look to see if one is experiencing any of the negative or un-happy, > qualities associated with that Planet, and that can lead one to get a head's > start on determining that. > > For example, with the Sun.... because the Sun rules self- confidence, and > self-esteem, whenever a person has powerful or health self- confidence, then, > it's probably true that their Sun is acting benefically. > > However, if a person experiences a strong amount of 'lack' of > self-confidence, and you look at their chart, and maybe they have the Sun in > the 8th or 12th houses, then one can form a good guess that it's functioning > as a malefic. > > For the Moon, if the person is fragile emotionally, or gets their feeling > hurt easily, or especially, has emotional problems, this is the sign that > the Moon may be acting malefically. > However, if a person is very even, emotionally, or has very good intuition, > and a strong, happy emotional constitution, then, these may be good > indicators of strong Moonish beneficness. > > For, Mercury, the functionings of the intellect are the Astrological 'signs' > whether Mercury is acting maleifically or not. If intellect is clear, and > decision makings are easy and effortless then Mercury may be benefic. > However, if it's hard for a person to think clearly, say in the case of > someone with Mercury in Pisces, then, Mercury may be acting malefically. > > For, Venus, the planet that represents the expressive, or affectionate > heart, one's ability to love, and to appreciate are the signs of a healthy, > balanced Venus. If however, the person is cold, or unexpressive, or even > critical then Venus may be acting malefically. I know a number of > individuals who have Venus in Virgo, and they're extemely hard on > themselves, and have a very difficult time, appreciating circumstances or > even others. > > For, Saturn, balance, health, losses, grief, delays, frustrations are all > the negative associations for Sani. > If Saturn is healthy or in it's Own Sign, etc. then, one is more patient, > calm, and mature, capable to good discipline, and doing the right thing at > the right time. > > For, Mars, if Mars is positive, one has natural enthuiasm, good energy, > strong, firm, and a great defender of the weak. If Mars is found acting > malefically, all kinds of significations of it's maleficness, will be found. > Some of these include, criminal behavior, going too fast, having accidents, > being too pushy, angry, negative, etc. > > For, Rahu & Ketu, the primary important issues include healthy desires or > not. Rahu/Ketu, therefore, represents the 'desire mechanism', so if > Rahu/Ketu is positive one has desires but they don't control, or obsess the > person. However, if Rahu/Ketu is acting malefically, then, one is prone to > obsessions, addictions, unhealthy pursuit of money, power, fame and ego. > > I hope this answers what you were asking. > > > Sincerely, > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > ps... As you probably know there may be many reasons why any planet is found > acting malefically, or benefically.... but to me,... > the key is once we figure out that 'it's' probably acting malefically, then > that can alert us to do anything to try and turn that planet around.... > > In future emails we can talk about exactly what we can do to create more > beneficness, especially when a planet's been leading us astray and acting > malefically. > > I'll give one example. > > Let's say, we are experiencing some kind of strong lack of self- confidence, > and Sun is found to be either in the 12th house, or ... say in the 7th > house. > > I did the chart the other day of a lady and she told me one of her most > challenging parts of her entire life was having a very strong lack of > self-confidence. > > When I looked at her chart, all I could find was her Sun was in the 7th > house. Her Sun was ruling her 10th house, and she had a quality of being in > business with partners, but... > > when she told me she had a strong lack of self-conficence, and feared being > able to do 'it', 'life', or being a success by herself... > > the qualities of her malefically acting Sun became more apparent. > > I've seen this in many others when the Sun's in the house of the 'other' or > the 7th house, often, there's an accompanying 'lack of self- confidence' that > goes along with that... > > So, it was a no brainer, really to tell her, her Sun was probably > functioning in a malefic situation, and she might want to take some steps > that would have the effect of strengthening her Sun. > > She got excited about that, and I told her some ways to do that. > > ciao > > > > > > > > Dear Mark > > Thanks a lot for the quick analysis. > > But I have come across somewhere that saturn being a lagna lord for aquarius > asc doesnot affect the native negatively. > > Regards > Jugal > > > > > Dear Jugal: > > This can be true, but I'll tell you a great Jyotish truth. > > The best way to tell whether a planet is 'acting' malefically, ....is... > > and you know I've come across lots of people with Saturn's in their Own > signs, > and even Exalted, who....are still experiencing the negative 'sides' to > Saturn.... > > anyway....the best way to 'tell'... > > is to ask yourself,....Q Am i experiencing the negative consequences of > Saturn... > > impatience, > frustration, > grief, > loss, losses, > sufferings,,... > ill-health... > > delays,... > pain in the body, > cold, > dry, > > etc... > > Or am I experiencing the positives of Saturn? > > patience,... > smoothness,... > peacefulness, within.... > composure, > doing the right thing at the right time... > deeeeeeep, silence...within... > no cravings, > integration of silence along with activity.... > getting my desires fulfilled without losses.... > or if losses happen, you know things go up and down, anyway,.... > then, I'm not adversely affected by those changes on an outer level.... > > I know people like this! > > who exhibit these wonderfully positive sides of Saturn.... > > Also, it may be true what you read about,.... Saturn being the Lord of > Aquarius, and the Lord > of your first House, in the 5th house may have some positive associations... > > Certainly better then the Lord of the 8th,...in the 12th...for example... > > But, don't forget, your same Saturn is also simultaneously the Lord of the > 12th,...and the > Lord of the 12th in the 5th, is supposed to be functioning, more > malefically,... and some of > the repercussions of this will be.... delays and disappointments, set-backs, > with.... > > children,.... > raising them,... > education, > breaks in education.... > > etc. > > > Finally, the fact that Saturn's also simultaneously aspecting your Sun.... > would also be indicative of 'things' going more slowly then you'd like... > > Also, one thing I forgot to mention, is that Saturn's aspecting also, the 11 > house, which is the > main house of desires.... > > In other words how we move and fulfill our desires is goverened by the 11th > house,... > so, the fact that Saturn's in the 5th, aspecting the 11th.... > is like Saturn in the 11th,....and often in people's charts, who have Saturn > in the 5th or 11th, > even 9th.... all of which can negatively affect the 11th house.... > > Just remember to ask yourself, 'am I experiencing' the positive or negative > side of this planet! > > > ciao > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > 3 Mar 2005 14:31:45 -0000 > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...> > Re: 2-jugal, re.... Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate > Self-Improvement Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3 > > > > > Dear Mark > > Thanks a lot for the quick analysis. > > But I have come across somewhere that saturn being a lagna lord for aquarius > asc doesnot affect the native negatively. > > Regards > Jugal > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote : > >Dear Mark > > > >I was going thru your article, its really amazing. > > > >I have been feeling lot of frustration for quite some time now. Not knowing > >what and where I have to go. May be it is beacuase I am running Rahu > >Mahadasha or may be something else. > > > >My rising sign (at the time of birth) is aquarius and other birth details > >are as under: > >Date 20/08/1973 > >Time 20.00 Hrs > >Place nagaur ( 27.30N and 74.20E) > >Thanks N Regards > >Jugal > > > > > >Dear Jugal: > > > >Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking up your chart fairly quickly,... and I'm > >comparing it to your short description, above. > > > >I find that people, we all, express our charts through our very words, very > >spontaneously. And when I read your words,...these particular one's jump > >out, at me. > > > >#1 you said... "feeling a lot of frustration"....and "not knowing what and > >where to go." > > > >Both these descriptions remind me of Saturn.... > >Saturn's the planet that holds us back,.... and the flavor you said,...of > >'not knowing, 'what', and where to go...are also interesting... > > > >Do you know about Jyotish aspects? > > > >Well, in your chart, your Saturn's in the 5th house, in Gemini, the 3rd > >sign, ... and Sani aspects fully the 3rd house away from it, and 3 houses > >away, is your Leo, which is where your Sun is... > >and though the Sun always loves being in Leo, I've known people with Saturn > >aspecting Sun's/Leo before, and quite often a lot of frustrations result... > > > >So, if we've identified, the right planet that's causing you your > >'frustrations', then, > >we might talk about some ways to strengthen, Saturn.... > > > >My take on Jyotish is, simply put, that the malefics in our charts, are not > >only symbolic > >of our problems,...but .... > >they're even much more profoundly,....about those very things that we should > >consider differently,... and adjusting ourselves,... in the ways of those > >'planets' or malefics,.... should transform ourselves, quite naturally! > > > >So, let's try.... > > > >In your chart, I believe your 'frustrations' are Saturn based. > > > >They could be pitta or Mars based if Mars was so aspecting but I think > >Saturn's the one. > > > >So, consider for a moment that you could strengthen, and therefore, improve > >your Saturn! > > > >Then, the way you'll be able to tell that you're progressing, is those same > >flavors of frustration, .... start to go away! > > > >Now, I believe it's also helpful to understand, that where we have our > >malefics, is where we're experiencing 'frustrations' and challenges, but not > >understanding that we're the one's who are creating those in the first > >place. > > > >For example, if you were having a problem with Mars, you might be having > >accidents, and feeling frustrated because you thought you were going the > >right speed, but lo, and behold, you kept finding yourself slipped, on the > >ground... > > > >So, these malefics represent where our thought patterns are not quite > >correct, or in-tune with Nature... > > > >In the case of Mars it's more obvious, that Nature's telling us...'We're > >going too fast!" > > > >But, in the case of Saturn, we don't see so obviously.... > > > >but, this is where Jyotish comes in and helps... > > > >The idea with Saturn is we're out of tune, with the timing of things. > >Impatience or feelings of frustration, themselves, are common responses, of > >being > >out of tune, with Saturn... > > > >So, by directly, strengthening or growing in the wisdom of Saturn, let's see > >if your > >experience of frustration might subside... > > > >First of all, let me ask,.... how are you feeling? > > > >Are you sleeping well? > >Getting enough rest? > >Well rested? > >And plenty of energy, after you wake up? > > > >Most people are not getting enough rest,... > >or going to bed early enough.... > > > >One of the things we learn from Ayurved is the importance of regular habits, > >going to > >bed on time, early enough.... > > > >Also, what will help Saturn is to put yourself on a more balanced routine... > > > >Go to bed early, 10pm latest for a week.... > >Get up, when you first wake up.... wash, shower, get ready.... > >If still groggy, meditate, if you know how,.... do some yoga.... > >and then go about your day.... > > > >eat at roughly the same time, > >listen to your body,.... > >eat if you're hungry.... > >don't overeat or undereat... > > > >Ayurved says "listen to your body" > >Eat as much as your fire of digestion, is hankering for.... > > > >And then, eat lighter at night, and again go to bed earlier.... > > > >Do, this for a few days.... especially the part of getting more rest.... > > > >and see if you don't start to automatically....feel better! > > > >Frustrations can be outer oriented, but my experience is most of our > >frustrations, are > >inner based,...primarily.... > > > >And once you correct the imbalances....inside....subjectively..... > > > >then, the outer manifestations.... go away! > > > > > >good luck.... > > > >and let me know what happends.... > > > >ciao > > > > > >Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > >"jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > >3 Mar 2005 06:44:10 -0000 > >m.kincaid@m... > >Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self- Improvement > >Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/2/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote : > > > > > >Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology! > > > > > >Join the Astrology Quiz! > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Friends: > > >March 2, 2005 > > > > > > > > >You hear a lot about self-improvement and positive thinking groups, today > > >In fact, the entire 'New Age' movement is full of ennumerable ways in which > > >to unfold or improve human potential. > > > > > >One day I was reflecting upon this and it occured to me that > > >Jyotish/Astrology was the original, and maybe, .. perhaps, the best.... even > > >the Ultimate Self-Improvement > > >Technology! > > > > > >Why? > > > > > >First of all because every area of life is included in our Astrology charts, > > >anyway. > > > > > >Physical Exercise,.... it's there, in our charts... > > >Balance between rest & activity,...is there, in the Saturn's in our > > >charts... > > >Yoga, it's there! > > >Ayurveda!, ... it's there.... > > >Self-esteem, for better or worse, it's there,...in the Sun's in our > > >charts... > > > > > > > > >Also, I think Jyotish/Astrology ... is supreme, because it's so individual, > > >specific, and precise, whereas most self-improvement Philosophys, are too > > >general. > > > > > >In the Jyotish book I'm presently writing there's a section on comparing > > >Astrology to other Philosophys and I compare to Philosophys, like those of > > >Deepak Chopra, Dr. Johnny Gray, even Oprah, has a Philosophy.... > > > > > >All Philosophys, are contained in Astrology,.... but not, all Philosophys > > >are as comprehensive as Astrology. > > > > > >Therefore, embrace your Astrology....! > > >as the ultimate self-improvement technology! > > > > > >#1 ... Define the thing you wish was different in your life! > > > > > >Whether it's better physical health, or mental peace of mind,... or... more > > >money, more love, more attunement with Nature,... etc. > > > > > >#2.... Then, find the Planets, Houses, and all Astrological configurations > > >that are involved with that particular part of your life. > > > > > >#3... Once we've discovered which planets and configurations are holding us > > >back, or frustrating us, .. then,.... > > > > > >#4... Make a decision to focus on strengthening that Planet! > > > > > >This is the key to Jyotish/Astrological, and life improvement, is to > > >identify that Astrological 'trigger', which is literally responsible for > > >that challenge! > > > > > >The problem is,.... for each person, 'that' switch is different. > > > > > >For example, to improve one's love life, Venus is the predominate Planet > > >that's responsible, for love. > > > > > >However, for each person, the 5th & 7th houses, are also indicative of > > >success in the field of pre-marital, and committed, marriage success. > > > > > >Then, you have to take into account all the various aspects of one's chart, > > >and you can come to a very complete picture of what's holding us back. > > > > > >I'll give you an example. > > > > > >Jason is a man whom I did his chart last year. > > > > > >He wanted too, to improve his relationship with his girlfriend. > > >In fact, it was his girlfriend who was 'dragging' him to come have his > > >chart, read. > > > > > >So, we reviewed his chart from the point of view of his experiences, and he > > >got very excited that we could guess what he was like and especially the > > >deeper motivations that were going on, underneath his experiences. > > > > > >He said: "I can't believe you can pin point what's really going on. I mean > > >I don't even know if I understood, exactly but you've really helped me > > >understand myself better!" > > > > > >This is the key to life,....and perhaps, one of Astrology's greatest > > >attributes. > > >Astrology can lead to more self-wisdom. > > >And, as we know ourselves better, we begin to understand what qualities, > > >what characteristics we are bringing to the 'relationship', or our job, or > > >our family, etc. > > > > > >Then, we talked about how we could strengthen the 'relationship' Planets and > > >even the 5th & 7th houses, which we had just discovered were, in fact, at > > >the basis of his frustrations. > > > > > >One of the biggest problems in life, is that we 'blame', others.... > > >for our situations. > > > > > >We blame our 'mate' for our frustrations. > > >We blame our job, the company we work for. > > >Heck, we even blame God, for giving us such frustrating challenges! > > > > > >But, Jyotish/Astrology helps us see that the World, is truely,...as WE ARE! > > >And once we see, that all the qualities, situations and aspects to our life, > > >are there, in our charts,...then, we begin to accept.... > > >that yes,... our life is really our....own. > > > > > >And all we really have to do,....is begin the process of self- change,... > > >self-improvement.... > > > > > >And, good Jyotish/Astrology, knows exactly how and with what Planets, or > > >switches of ours, we need to turn on! > > > > > > > > >So, take the Astrology challenge! > > > > > >Jyotish Quiz! > > > > > > > > > > > >o Identify the part of your life that you wish was different! > > > > > >o Health problems __________? > > >o Financial problems _________? > > >o Relationship problems __________? > > > > > > > > >o Then, find the Planet(s), or Chart configurations, houses & signs, > > >that are > > > literally, reflective of those challenges! > > > > > >o Is it Saturn that's causing you your problems? ________ > > >o Is it Mars ______? > > >o Is it the Sun ______? > > >o Is it the Moon ______? > > > > > >Let us know... > > > > > >It's not that 'these' Planets are causing us our problems! > > > > > >The 'malefics' in our charts are just those aspects of life, that we didn't > > >understand > > >before we came to this Earth.... > > > > > >Identifying which aspects of ourSelves, are responsible for our > > >unhappinesses,... > > >is the key to true growth in life. > > > > > >This is what's going on in our lives, even before we ever heard of > > >Astrology. > > > > > >Someone's having accidents or is extremely accident prone, and at some > > >point, 'they get it'.... "Ahhhh, I'm going to fast!" > > > > > >Then, they begin to adjust, and even if they end up having to re- organize a > > >bunch of different parts of themselves, but, the point is... they do adjust, > > >and the Mars, energy inside of them, ... starts to change! > > > > > >Imagine what it would be like, if we could learn to adjust more early! > > > > > >And, not just because we've gotten sick again, and we've finally gotten sick > > >of staying up too late, eating all kinds of weird food, and smoking too > > >much. > > > > > >Imagine if we could have learned earlier, from our chart's how to change our > > >eating habits! > > > > > >Like that, we all can enjoy an amazing improvement in the quality and > > >character, of our lives through the innocent application of good Astrology. > > > > > >I was thinking the other day and it occured to me that the key to life, is > > >growth. > > > > > >But, Astrology has such a long habit of belief in fate and pre- determinism, > > >and flash! I realized, Astrology needs to embrace it's own, self- improvement > > >nature, and when it does, then Astrology will finally move into it's proper > > >place as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology. > > > > > >We now, need to revive this bias in present day Astrology. We need to > > >understand that Astrology understands about life's transformations, even as > > >much as it understands about our 'fates'. > > > > > >They do both exist, but our present age shows us that those who learn to > > >grow, to adapt, to change and transform, they teach us about possibilities! > > > > > >Astrology, too needs to embrace it's powerful ability to accomplish. > > > > > >Join me in a discussion as to How to Do these things we've been talking > > >about. > > > > > >Anyone who would like, feel free to write me back and we'll go through this > > >process. > > > > > >Tell me about the thing in your life, you wish was different! > > > > > >If you know your chart, tell me your date of birth info, and especially > > >Rising Sign. > > > > > > > > >Then, let's explore together, how we can learn to strength those Planets > > >which seem to be causing you any frustrations. > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > > >Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > >Astrologer, > > >Founder Nature's Astrology. > > >Teacher of Meditation > > >Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, and teacher. > > > > > >Starlight Inc. > > >>641 472-0000. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
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