Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be in 12th, same or 2nd house to the NATAL Moon. When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those having Janma Rasi as Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade Sati. For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for Cancer it will be the middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the first cycle of 2.5 years. Best Regards , angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi all > > I have one doubt :- > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any asc/Lagna > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle effect him. > > regards > angel > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > In short: > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign Cancer brings > > Saturnian qualities > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to learn, to be > > humble, to open its > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre conceived > > notions, then Saturn's > > transit creates confusions, such that you search for > > the Truth. Saturn > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is considered > > an enemy. Moon > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. Emotions > > splash or dry up. > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > disregarding the judgment. > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty decisions. Mind > > can be given to > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > understand oneself and the > > Truth. By following the order of the nature, by > > being humble and > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, and it > > does not create the > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, forbearance > > and fortitude and > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake and not > > for the pleasures > > you can buy with money and you shall sail through > > this 2 1/2 years of > > Sade Sati. > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > , "xyrodon" > > <xyrodon> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am new to this group and I am also new to > > jyotish. My moon sign is > > > kataka (Cancer) and I have had many reading done > > by many internet > > > companies (Astromandir, Indastro and Kamalkapoor). > > > > > > As everyone is well aware, the Sade Sati cycle is > > now in Cancer and > > > will remain there for some time. I would like to > > know how much more > > > brutal and malefic Lord Shani is to Kataka > > compared to other Zodiac > > > signs. Is Kataka an enemy sign of Saturn? > > > > > > Also, do remedies do any good at all? I have > > tried many and they > > > yeild almost no results. Does it matter how hard > > I work during this > > > period or is all doomed for those who are born a > > Kataka? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Would you Help a Child in need? > > It is easier than you think. > > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > > > http://us.click./0Z9NuA/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > > > --~-> > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will be entering into Cancer next month. The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The transiting Saturn is neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL moon. Therefore, there is NO sade sati. >From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house then it is Kantaka Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer next month, Kantaka Sani is over as well. Best Regards , angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi guruji > > Many Thanks for your response! > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will explain > with example : > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND Moon is > present in 5th house ie > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > 5thH : scorpio : moon > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still the > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be in > > 12th, same or 2nd > > house to the NATAL Moon > > many thanks > angel goel > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be in > > 12th, same or 2nd > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those having > > Janma Rasi as > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade Sati. > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for Cancer > > it will be the > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the first > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > , angel > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > asc/Lagna > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle effect > > him. > > > > > > regards > > > angel > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > In short: > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign Cancer > > brings > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to learn, to > > be > > > > humble, to open its > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre conceived > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you search > > for > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > considered > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > Emotions > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty decisions. > > Mind > > > > can be given to > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > Truth. By following the order of the nature, by > > > > being humble and > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, and > > it > > > > does not create the > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > forbearance > > > > and fortitude and > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake and > > not > > > > for the pleasures > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > through > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > "xyrodon" > > > > <xyrodon> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group and I am also new to > > > > jyotish. My moon sign is > > > > > kataka (Cancer) and I have had many reading > > done > > > > by many internet > > > > > companies (Astromandir, Indastro and > > Kamalkapoor). > > > > > > > > > > As everyone is well aware, the Sade Sati cycle > > is > > > > now in Cancer and > > > > > will remain there for some time. I would like > > to > > > > know how much more > > > > > brutal and malefic Lord Shani is to Kataka > > > > compared to other Zodiac > > > > > signs. Is Kataka an enemy sign of Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > Also, do remedies do any good at all? I have > > > > tried many and they > > > > > yeild almost no results. Does it matter how > > hard > > > > I work during this > > > > > period or is all doomed for those who are born > > a > > > > Kataka? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > > --------------------~--> > > > > Would you Help a Child in need? > > > > It is easier than you think. > > > > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > > > > > > > > > > http://us.click./0Z9NuA/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > > > > > > > > > > --~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS > > SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Business - Try our new resources > > site! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Would you Help a Child in need? > > It is easier than you think. > > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > > > http://us.click./0Z9NuA/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > > > --~-> > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hi Many Thanks for clarifications!! I have another doubt :-) Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become kantaka sani. that is Asc : Cancer : No planet 7th : Capricorn : Moon 12th:Gemini : Saturn With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka sani. What are effects of the same sani ? thanks in advance angel goel --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz wrote: > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will be > entering into > Cancer next month. > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > transiting Saturn is > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > moon. Therefore, there > is NO sade sati. > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house then > it is Kantaka > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer next > month, Kantaka > Sani is over as well. > > Best Regards > > > , angel > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi guruji > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > explain > > with example : > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND Moon > is > > present in 5th house ie > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > the > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be > in > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > many thanks > > angel goel > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be > in > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > having > > > Janma Rasi as > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade Sati. > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > Cancer > > > it will be the > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > first > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > asc/Lagna > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > effect > > > him. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > angel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > In short: > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign Cancer > > > brings > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to learn, > to > > > be > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > conceived > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > search > > > for > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > considered > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > Emotions > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > decisions. > > > Mind > > > > > can be given to > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the nature, > by > > > > > being humble and > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > and > > > it > > > > > does not create the > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > forbearance > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > and > > > not > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > through > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > "xyrodon" > > > > > <xyrodon> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group and I am also new > to > > > > > jyotish. My moon sign is > > > > > > kataka (Cancer) and I have had many > reading > > > done > > > > > by many internet > > > > > > companies (Astromandir, Indastro and > > > Kamalkapoor). > > > > > > > > > > > > As everyone is well aware, the Sade Sati > cycle > > > is > > > > > now in Cancer and > > > > > > will remain there for some time. I would > like > > > to > > > > > know how much more > > > > > > brutal and malefic Lord Shani is to Kataka > > > > > compared to other Zodiac > > > > > > signs. Is Kataka an enemy sign of Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do remedies do any good at all? I > have > > > > > tried many and they > > > > > > yeild almost no results. Does it matter > how > > > hard > > > > > I work during this > > > > > > period or is all doomed for those who are > born > > > a > > > > > Kataka? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > Sponsor > > > > > --------------------~--> > > > > > Would you Help a Child in need? > === message truncated === Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel./p-travelguide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi Angel, The most difficult saturn transits are when saturn is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th house from your natal moon and transiting 7th house from your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is cancer and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. During next two years when saturn will transit your cancer lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th house, you will experience problems with women. This transit can also lead to temporary separation or divorce if you are married. It can also effect your health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna lord moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a lonely time for you. Please see the degree of your natal moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful when saturn comes to same degree in cancer. In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from natal moon is more bad than ashthama shani. Gurmeet angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Many Thanks for clarifications!! I have another doubt :-) Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become kantaka sani. that is Asc : Cancer : No planet 7th : Capricorn : Moon 12th:Gemini : Saturn With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka sani. What are effects of the same sani ? thanks in advance angel goel --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz wrote: > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will be > entering into > Cancer next month. > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > transiting Saturn is > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > moon. Therefore, there > is NO sade sati. > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house then > it is Kantaka > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer next > month, Kantaka > Sani is over as well. > > Best Regards > > > , angel > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi guruji > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > explain > > with example : > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND Moon > is > > present in 5th house ie > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > the > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be > in > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > many thanks > > angel goel > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should be > in > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > having > > > Janma Rasi as > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade Sati. > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > Cancer > > > it will be the > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > first > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > asc/Lagna > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > effect > > > him. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > angel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > In short: > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign Cancer > > > brings > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to learn, > to > > > be > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > conceived > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > search > > > for > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > considered > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > Emotions > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > decisions. > > > Mind > > > > > can be given to > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the nature, > by > > > > > being humble and > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > and > > > it > > > > > does not create the > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > forbearance > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > and > > > not > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > through > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > "xyrodon" > > > > > <xyrodon> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group and I am also new > to > > > > > jyotish. My moon sign is > > > > > > kataka (Cancer) and I have had many > reading > > > done > > > > > by many internet > > > > > > companies (Astromandir, Indastro and > > > Kamalkapoor). > > > > > > > > > > > > As everyone is well aware, the Sade Sati > cycle > > > is > > > > > now in Cancer and > > > > > > will remain there for some time. I would > like > > > to > > > > > know how much more > > > > > > brutal and malefic Lord Shani is to Kataka > > > > > compared to other Zodiac > > > > > > signs. Is Kataka an enemy sign of Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do remedies do any good at all? I > have > > > > > tried many and they > > > > > > yeild almost no results. Does it matter > how > > > hard > > > > > I work during this > > > > > > period or is all doomed for those who are > born > > > a > > > > > Kataka? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > Sponsor > > > > > --------------------~--> > > > > > Would you Help a Child in need? > === message truncated === Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel./p-travelguide ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? ·Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More / Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi Gurmeet I know so many people for whome Saturn is present in cancer sign in rasi-chart. I want more information on this topic.Can you suggest something . thanks angel --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote: > > Hi Angel, > > The most difficult saturn transits are when saturn > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th house > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house from > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is cancer > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. During > next two years when saturn will transit your cancer > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > house, you will experience problems with women. This > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > divorce if you are married. It can also effect your > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna lord > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a lonely > time for you. Please see the degree of your natal > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful when > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from natal > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > Gurmeet > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > I have another doubt :-) > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > kantaka sani. that is > Asc : Cancer : No planet > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > thanks in advance > angel goel > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz > wrote: > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will > be > > entering into > > Cancer next month. > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > transiting Saturn is > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > > moon. Therefore, there > > is NO sade sati. > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > then > > it is Kantaka > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer > next > > month, Kantaka > > Sani is over as well. > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > , angel > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > > explain > > > with example : > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND > Moon > > is > > > present in 5th house ie > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > > the > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > be > > in > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > many thanks > > > angel goel > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > be > > in > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > > having > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > Sati. > > > > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > > Cancer > > > > it will be the > > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > > first > > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > > asc/Lagna > > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > > effect > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > In short: > > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign > Cancer > > > > brings > > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to > learn, > > to > > > > be > > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > > conceived > > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > > search > > > > for > > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > > considered > > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > > Emotions > > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > > decisions. > > > > Mind > > > > > > can be given to > > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the > nature, > > by > > > > > > being humble and > > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > > and > > > > it > > > > > > does not create the > > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > > forbearance > > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > > and > > > > not > > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > > through > > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > === message truncated === Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel./p-travelguide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi angel, When you see saturn transits, you need to consider your moon sign also. For example some one may have cancer lagna and moon in virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting in cancer lagna will give good results because saturn will be transiting 11th house from natal moon (very good). The reason why it will be difficult for you is because your moon is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will come directly opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. Gurmeet angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Gurmeet I know so many people for whome Saturn is present in cancer sign in rasi-chart. I want more information on this topic.Can you suggest something . thanks angel --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote: > > Hi Angel, > > The most difficult saturn transits are when saturn > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th house > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house from > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is cancer > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. During > next two years when saturn will transit your cancer > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > house, you will experience problems with women. This > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > divorce if you are married. It can also effect your > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna lord > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a lonely > time for you. Please see the degree of your natal > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful when > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from natal > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > Gurmeet > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > I have another doubt :-) > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > kantaka sani. that is > Asc : Cancer : No planet > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > thanks in advance > angel goel > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz > wrote: > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will > be > > entering into > > Cancer next month. > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > transiting Saturn is > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > > moon. Therefore, there > > is NO sade sati. > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > then > > it is Kantaka > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer > next > > month, Kantaka > > Sani is over as well. > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > , angel > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > > explain > > > with example : > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND > Moon > > is > > > present in 5th house ie > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > > the > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > be > > in > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > many thanks > > > angel goel > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > be > > in > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > > having > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > Sati. > > > > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > > Cancer > > > > it will be the > > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > > first > > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > > asc/Lagna > > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > > effect > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > In short: > > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign > Cancer > > > > brings > > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to > learn, > > to > > > > be > > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > > conceived > > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > > search > > > > for > > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > > considered > > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > > Emotions > > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > > decisions. > > > > Mind > > > > > > can be given to > > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the > nature, > > by > > > > > > being humble and > > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > > and > > > > it > > > > > > does not create the > > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > > forbearance > > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > > and > > > > not > > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > > through > > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > === message truncated === Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel./p-travelguide ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? ·Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Dear Gurmeet, Transits have limitations.What is not promised in the natal chart cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust you have considered this in your analysesi.e. present Dasa/bhukti etc regards, Satish , gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > Hi angel, > > When you see saturn transits, you need to consider your moon sign also. For example some one may have cancer lagna and moon in virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting in cancer lagna will give good results because saturn will be transiting 11th house from natal moon (very good). > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is because your moon is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will come directly opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > Gurmeet > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi Gurmeet > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present in > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > I want more information on this topic.Can you suggest > something . > > thanks > angel > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when saturn > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th house > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house from > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is cancer > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. During > > next two years when saturn will transit your cancer > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > house, you will experience problems with women. This > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect your > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna lord > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a lonely > > time for you. Please see the degree of your natal > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful when > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from natal > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > I have another doubt :-) > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > kantaka sani. that is > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > thanks in advance > > angel goel > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will > > be > > > entering into > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > transiting Saturn is > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > then > > > it is Kantaka > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer > > next > > > month, Kantaka > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > > > explain > > > > with example : > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND > > Moon > > > is > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > > > the > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > > be > > > in > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > > be > > > in > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > > > having > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > Sati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > > > Cancer > > > > > it will be the > > > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > > > first > > > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > > > asc/Lagna > > > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > > > effect > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > In short: > > > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign > > Cancer > > > > > brings > > > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to > > learn, > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > > > conceived > > > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > > > search > > > > > for > > > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > > > considered > > > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > > > Emotions > > > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > > > decisions. > > > > > Mind > > > > > > > can be given to > > > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the > > nature, > > > by > > > > > > > being humble and > > > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > > does not create the > > > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > > > forbearance > > > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > > > and > > > > > not > > > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > > > through > > > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel./p-travelguide > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Gurmeet Please verify if my understanding is correct :- SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from NATAL moon will never be good. In this case transition from 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring some material gains but over all it brings mental anguish. I would like to discuss more on this topic of saturn transition. I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is present in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so is it ashtama sani. I could not understand the satish ji's comments. thanks angel goel --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised in > the natal chart > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust > you have > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > Dasa/bhukti etc > > regards, > > Satish > , gurmeet > singh > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > Hi angel, > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > consider your moon > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > lagna and moon in > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting > in cancer lagna > will give good results because saturn will be > transiting 11th house > from natal moon (very good). > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > because your moon > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will > come directly > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > > > Gurmeet > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi Gurmeet > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present > in > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > suggest > > something . > > > > thanks > > angel > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > saturn > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th > house > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house > from > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > cancer > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > During > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > cancer > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > > house, you will experience problems with women. > This > > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect > your > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna > lord > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > lonely > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > natal > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful > when > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from > natal > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and > saturn > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > kantaka > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > angel goel > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and > will > > > be > > > > entering into > > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > > transiting Saturn is > > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the > NATAL > > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > > then > > > > it is Kantaka > > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to > Cancer > > > next > > > > month, Kantaka > > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I > will > > > > explain > > > > > with example : > > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn > AND > > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... > Still > > > > the > > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement > : > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > should > > > be > > > > in > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > should > > > be > > > > in > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), > those > > > > having > > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > > Sati. > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hello Angel Saturn's transit is only considered beneficial if it is transiting 3rd, 6th or 11th from moon. However, this does not mean other transit periods are necessarily going to be bad. Saturn is not considered alone while checking the results of transits. Jupiter's transits are always checked along. Jupiter's can counter any of the Saturn's possible wrong "intentions". Transits of Rahu-Ketu axis and Mars are important too. However, as mentioned by another person, Dasa and Bhukti effects have a major say in determination of results. Best is to understand, why Saturn gives such results? Why has it been given a role of "harbringer of sorrow"? What is nature trying to teach us? What is the goal of life? Where are the planets taking us? Why does Jupiter does good? What is "good" and what is "bad"? What is the scale we choose to consider something good or bad? For example, Jupiter is considered "good" as it generally fulfills popularity, wealth and such desires within us. In doing so, it also binds us to "good things in life". Saturn can shock us out of it. Think about it. This is only a primer. If you are keen you should learn the principles behind it. Best Regards , angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi Gurmeet > > Please verify if my understanding is correct :- > > SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from NATAL > moon will never be good. In this case transition from > 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring > some material gains but over all it brings mental > anguish. > > I would like to discuss more on this topic of saturn > transition. > > I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is present > in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so is > it ashtama sani. > > I could not understand the satish ji's comments. > > thanks > angel goel > > > --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised in > > the natal chart > > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust > > you have > > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > > Dasa/bhukti etc > > > > regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , gurmeet > > singh > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > Hi angel, > > > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > > consider your moon > > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > > lagna and moon in > > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting > > in cancer lagna > > will give good results because saturn will be > > transiting 11th house > > from natal moon (very good). > > > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > > because your moon > > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will > > come directly > > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi Gurmeet > > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present > > in > > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > > suggest > > > something . > > > > > > thanks > > > angel > > > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > > saturn > > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th > > house > > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house > > from > > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > > cancer > > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > > During > > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > > cancer > > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > > > house, you will experience problems with women. > > This > > > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect > > your > > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna > > lord > > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > > lonely > > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > > natal > > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful > > when > > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from > > natal > > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and > > saturn > > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > > kantaka > > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and > > will > > > > be > > > > > entering into > > > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > > > transiting Saturn is > > > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the > > NATAL > > > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > > > then > > > > > it is Kantaka > > > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to > > Cancer > > > > next > > > > > month, Kantaka > > > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I > > will > > > > > explain > > > > > > with example : > > > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn > > AND > > > > Moon > > > > > is > > > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... > > Still > > > > > the > > > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement > > : > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > > should > > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > > should > > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), > > those > > > > > having > > > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > > > Sati. > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Dear Satish, Moon is a very sensitive point in our charts. Saturn's aspects to natal moon are so powerful that they sometimes override the dasha and bhukti also. If the dasha is good then it may be less damaging. But if the dasha is very bad then it is really very bad. Gurmeet rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Gurmeet, Transits have limitations.What is not promised in the natal chart cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust you have considered this in your analysesi.e. present Dasa/bhukti etc regards, Satish , gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > Hi angel, > > When you see saturn transits, you need to consider your moon sign also. For example some one may have cancer lagna and moon in virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting in cancer lagna will give good results because saturn will be transiting 11th house from natal moon (very good). > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is because your moon is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will come directly opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > Gurmeet > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi Gurmeet > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present in > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > I want more information on this topic.Can you suggest > something . > > thanks > angel > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when saturn > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th house > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house from > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is cancer > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. During > > next two years when saturn will transit your cancer > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > house, you will experience problems with women. This > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect your > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna lord > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a lonely > > time for you. Please see the degree of your natal > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful when > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from natal > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > I have another doubt :-) > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and saturn > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > kantaka sani. that is > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be kantaka > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > thanks in advance > > angel goel > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and will > > be > > > entering into > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > transiting Saturn is > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the NATAL > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > then > > > it is Kantaka > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to Cancer > > next > > > month, Kantaka > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I will > > > explain > > > > with example : > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn AND > > Moon > > > is > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... Still > > > the > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement : > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > > be > > > in > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn should > > be > > > in > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), those > > > having > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > Sati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Gemini it will be the last 2.5 years, for > > > Cancer > > > > > it will be the > > > > > middle 2.5 years and for Leo it will be the > > > first > > > > > cycle of 2.5 years. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > I have one doubt :- > > > > > > > > > > > > If SATURN is present in CANCER SIGN for any > > > > > asc/Lagna > > > > > > person,then also will this Sade-Sati cycle > > > effect > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > In short: > > > > > > > Saturn's transit through Moon's sign > > Cancer > > > > > brings > > > > > > > Saturnian qualities > > > > > > > to the Mind. It qualifies the mind to > > learn, > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > humble, to open its > > > > > > > eyes to the nature. If mind has pre > > > conceived > > > > > > > notions, then Saturn's > > > > > > > transit creates confusions, such that you > > > search > > > > > for > > > > > > > the Truth. Saturn > > > > > > > is not an enemy of the Moon but Moon is > > > > > considered > > > > > > > an enemy. Moon > > > > > > > reacts to Saturn's entry into its house. > > > > > Emotions > > > > > > > splash or dry up. > > > > > > > Decision making happens through Emotions > > > > > > > disregarding the judgment. > > > > > > > Mind is reactive and can make hasty > > > decisions. > > > > > Mind > > > > > > > can be given to > > > > > > > frustration, coldness, jealousy, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above effects happen such that one can > > > > > > > understand oneself and the > > > > > > > Truth. By following the order of the > > nature, > > > by > > > > > > > being humble and > > > > > > > accepting, Saturnian wishes are fulfilled, > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > > does not create the > > > > > > > "problems" that it does. Have patience, > > > > > forbearance > > > > > > > and fortitude and > > > > > > > loads of hardwork. Do work for work's sake > > > and > > > > > not > > > > > > > for the pleasures > > > > > > > you can buy with money and you shall sail > > > > > through > > > > > > > this 2 1/2 years of > > > > > > > Sade Sati. > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel./p-travelguide > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Angel, Saturn is very bad when it transits 1st, 4th and 7th house from natal moon, because from these positions it afflicts natal moon, and moon is a very sensitive point in our charts. If the dasha/bhukti is good at that time, then it may be less damaging. But if the dasha bhukti is also bad, and at the same time Jupiter, rahu, and ketu are also transiting 8th or 12th house from natal moon then it is very evil time. Ofcourse it also varies depending upon strength of planets in your birth chart. Gurmeet angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Gurmeet Please verify if my understanding is correct :- SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from NATAL moon will never be good. In this case transition from 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring some material gains but over all it brings mental anguish. I would like to discuss more on this topic of saturn transition. I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is present in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so is it ashtama sani. I could not understand the satish ji's comments. thanks angel goel --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised in > the natal chart > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust > you have > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > Dasa/bhukti etc > > regards, > > Satish > , gurmeet > singh > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > Hi angel, > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > consider your moon > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > lagna and moon in > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting > in cancer lagna > will give good results because saturn will be > transiting 11th house > from natal moon (very good). > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > because your moon > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will > come directly > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > > > Gurmeet > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi Gurmeet > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present > in > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > suggest > > something . > > > > thanks > > angel > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > saturn > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th > house > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house > from > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > cancer > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > During > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > cancer > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > > house, you will experience problems with women. > This > > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect > your > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna > lord > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > lonely > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > natal > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful > when > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from > natal > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and > saturn > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > kantaka > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > angel goel > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and > will > > > be > > > > entering into > > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > > transiting Saturn is > > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the > NATAL > > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > > then > > > > it is Kantaka > > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to > Cancer > > > next > > > > month, Kantaka > > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I > will > > > > explain > > > > > with example : > > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn > AND > > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... > Still > > > > the > > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement > : > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > should > > > be > > > > in > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > should > > > be > > > > in > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), > those > > > > having > > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > > Sati. > > > > > === message truncated === ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 hi! all, are we forgetting the ashtam shani, which people even refer to as mini sade saati,when we are talking about the bad transits of saturn. in cidentally cancer is ashtam from my natal moon.can somebody enlighten me about the effects of ashtam shani in detail. i would be thankfull. regards..mukesh , gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > Hi Angel, > > Saturn is very bad when it transits 1st, 4th and 7th house from natal moon, because from these positions it afflicts natal moon, and moon is a very sensitive point in our charts. If the dasha/bhukti is good at that time, then it may be less damaging. But if the dasha bhukti is also bad, and at the same time Jupiter, rahu, and ketu are also transiting 8th or 12th house from natal moon then it is very evil time. Ofcourse it also varies depending upon strength of planets in your birth chart. > > Gurmeet > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi Gurmeet > > Please verify if my understanding is correct :- > > SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from NATAL > moon will never be good. In this case transition from > 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring > some material gains but over all it brings mental > anguish. > > I would like to discuss more on this topic of saturn > transition. > > I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is present > in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so is > it ashtama sani. > > I could not understand the satish ji's comments. > > thanks > angel goel > > > --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised in > > the natal chart > > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I trust > > you have > > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > > Dasa/bhukti etc > > > > regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , gurmeet > > singh > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > Hi angel, > > > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > > consider your moon > > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > > lagna and moon in > > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn transiting > > in cancer lagna > > will give good results because saturn will be > > transiting 11th house > > from natal moon (very good). > > > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > > because your moon > > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn will > > come directly > > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult time. > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi Gurmeet > > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is present > > in > > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > > suggest > > > something . > > > > > > thanks > > > angel > > > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > > saturn > > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting 4th > > house > > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th house > > from > > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > > cancer > > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > > During > > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > > cancer > > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in 7th > > > > house, you will experience problems with women. > > This > > > > transit can also lead to temporary separation or > > > > divorce if you are married. It can also effect > > your > > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your lagna > > lord > > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > > lonely > > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > > natal > > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very careful > > when > > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house from > > natal > > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th and > > saturn > > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now become > > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > > kantaka > > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently transiting Saturn is in Gemini and > > will > > > > be > > > > > entering into > > > > > Cancer next month. > > > > > > > > > > The moon in your example is in Scorpio. The > > > > > transiting Saturn is > > > > > neither in 12th, same or 2nd house as the > > NATAL > > > > > moon. Therefore, there > > > > > is NO sade sati. > > > > > > > > > > From the moon if Saturn is in the eighth house > > > > then > > > > > it is Kantaka > > > > > Sani. However, with the Saturn moving to > > Cancer > > > > next > > > > > month, Kantaka > > > > > Sani is over as well. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel > > > > > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for your response! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have another doubt on the same topic.I > > will > > > > > explain > > > > > > with example : > > > > > > suppose native has CANCER Asc With Saturn > > AND > > > > Moon > > > > > is > > > > > > present in 5th house ie > > > > > > Asc/1stH : cancer : saturn > > > > > > 5thH : scorpio : moon > > > > > > In this case, saturn is 8th from moon ... > > Still > > > > > the > > > > > > "sade-sati" be applicable to such native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually Doubt is because of foll statement > > : > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > > should > > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > > > > --- natalcharts_biz <natalcharts_biz> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a Sade Sati, the transiting Saturn > > should > > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th, same or 2nd > > > > > > > house to the NATAL Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Saturn goes into Cancer (Kataka), > > those > > > > > having > > > > > > > Janma Rasi as > > > > > > > Gemini, Cancer or Leo will be running Sade > > > > Sati. > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hi all Incase someone has asthama sani but dasha period lorded by "JUPITER" which is retrograde in the horoscope.what will be effects (good/bad/moderate)? On top of all this, the sub-lord of dasha is saturn then what will happen - it is complicated. BUT the topic is interesting,can we discuss in more details thanks angel goel --- mukesh_vats9992 <mukesh_vats9992 wrote: > > > hi! all, > are we forgetting the ashtam shani, which people > even refer to as > mini sade saati,when we are talking about the bad > transits of saturn. > in cidentally cancer is ashtam from my natal > moon.can somebody > enlighten me about the effects of ashtam shani in > detail. > i would be thankfull. > regards..mukesh > , gurmeet > singh > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > Hi Angel, > > > > Saturn is very bad when it transits 1st, 4th and > 7th house from > natal moon, because from these positions it afflicts > natal moon, and > moon is a very sensitive point in our charts. If the > dasha/bhukti is > good at that time, then it may be less damaging. But > if the dasha > bhukti is also bad, and at the same time Jupiter, > rahu, and ketu are > also transiting 8th or 12th house from natal moon > then it is very > evil time. Ofcourse it also varies depending upon > strength of planets > in your birth chart. > > > > Gurmeet > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi Gurmeet > > > > Please verify if my understanding is correct :- > > > > SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from > NATAL > > moon will never be good. In this case transition > from > > 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring > > some material gains but over all it brings mental > > anguish. > > > > I would like to discuss more on this topic of > saturn > > transition. > > > > I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is > present > > in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so > is > > it ashtama sani. > > > > I could not understand the satish ji's comments. > > > > thanks > > angel goel > > > > > > --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > > > > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised > in > > > the natal chart > > > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I > trust > > > you have > > > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > > > Dasa/bhukti etc > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , gurmeet > > > singh > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > Hi angel, > > > > > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > > > consider your moon > > > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > > > lagna and moon in > > > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn > transiting > > > in cancer lagna > > > will give good results because saturn will be > > > transiting 11th house > > > from natal moon (very good). > > > > > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > > > because your moon > > > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn > will > > > come directly > > > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult > time. > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi Gurmeet > > > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is > present > > > in > > > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > > > suggest > > > > something . > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > angel > > > > > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > > > saturn > > > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting > 4th > > > house > > > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th > house > > > from > > > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > > > cancer > > > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > > > During > > > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > > > cancer > > > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in > 7th > > > > > house, you will experience problems with > women. > > > This > > > > > transit can also lead to temporary > separation or > > > > > divorce if you are married. It can also > effect > > > your > > > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your > lagna > > > lord > > > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > > > lonely > > > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > > > natal > > > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very > careful > > > when > > > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house > from > > > natal > > > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th > and > > > saturn > > > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now > become > > > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > > > kantaka > > > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Angel, Be an angel and ask clear questions.Hypothetical questions will get hypothetical answers only. You are talking of two separate issues.1 Dasa/antardasa. 2 gochar i.e xsit of saturn. correct assessment should be done with totality of horoscope all the planetary positions,aspects etc etc. time meter is very important. Rgds, satish -- In , angel <angelgoel> wrote: > Hi all > > Incase someone has asthama sani but dasha period > lorded by "JUPITER" which is retrograde in the > horoscope.what will be effects (good/bad/moderate)? > > On top of all this, the sub-lord of dasha is saturn > then what will happen - it is complicated. BUT the > topic is interesting,can we discuss in more details > > thanks > angel goel > > --- mukesh_vats9992 <mukesh_vats9992> > wrote: > > > > > > > hi! all, > > are we forgetting the ashtam shani, which people > > even refer to as > > mini sade saati,when we are talking about the bad > > transits of saturn. > > in cidentally cancer is ashtam from my natal > > moon.can somebody > > enlighten me about the effects of ashtam shani in > > detail. > > i would be thankfull. > > regards..mukesh > > , gurmeet > > singh > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > Saturn is very bad when it transits 1st, 4th and > > 7th house from > > natal moon, because from these positions it afflicts > > natal moon, and > > moon is a very sensitive point in our charts. If the > > dasha/bhukti is > > good at that time, then it may be less damaging. But > > if the dasha > > bhukti is also bad, and at the same time Jupiter, > > rahu, and ketu are > > also transiting 8th or 12th house from natal moon > > then it is very > > evil time. Ofcourse it also varies depending upon > > strength of planets > > in your birth chart. > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > Hi Gurmeet > > > > > > Please verify if my understanding is correct :- > > > > > > SATURN transiting 12th,1st,2nd,7th and 4th from > > NATAL > > > moon will never be good. In this case transition > > from > > > 12th,1st,2nd is sade-sathi phase which might bring > > > some material gains but over all it brings mental > > > anguish. > > > > > > I would like to discuss more on this topic of > > saturn > > > transition. > > > > > > I saw another chart with Leo Lagna and moon is > > present > > > in 5th (Sagi sign) THUS saturn is 8th from Moon so > > is > > > it ashtama sani. > > > > > > I could not understand the satish ji's comments. > > > > > > thanks > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > --- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet, > > > > > > > > Transits have limitations.What is not promised > > in > > > > the natal chart > > > > cannot be overcome thro transits of planets.I > > trust > > > > you have > > > > considered this in your analysesi.e. present > > > > Dasa/bhukti etc > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , gurmeet > > > > singh > > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > Hi angel, > > > > > > > > > > When you see saturn transits, you need to > > > > consider your moon > > > > sign also. For example some one may have cancer > > > > lagna and moon in > > > > virgo in 3rd house. In that case saturn > > transiting > > > > in cancer lagna > > > > will give good results because saturn will be > > > > transiting 11th house > > > > from natal moon (very good). > > > > > > > > > > The reason why it will be difficult for you is > > > > because your moon > > > > is in capricorn in 7th house. So transit saturn > > will > > > > come directly > > > > opposite your moon. This is a very difficult > > time. > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > Hi Gurmeet > > > > > I know so many people for whome Saturn is > > present > > > > in > > > > > cancer sign in rasi-chart. > > > > > > > > > > I want more information on this topic.Can you > > > > suggest > > > > > something . > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > angel > > > > > > > > > > --- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Angel, > > > > > > > > > > > > The most difficult saturn transits are when > > > > saturn > > > > > > is transiting your natal moon, transiting > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > > from your natal moon and transiting 7th > > house > > > > from > > > > > > your natal moon. You mentioned your lagna is > > > > cancer > > > > > > and natal moon is in 7th house in capricorn. > > > > During > > > > > > next two years when saturn will transit your > > > > cancer > > > > > > lagna and it will oppose your natal moon in > > 7th > > > > > > house, you will experience problems with > > women. > > > > This > > > > > > transit can also lead to temporary > > separation or > > > > > > divorce if you are married. It can also > > effect > > > > your > > > > > > health as transit saturn will aspect your > > lagna > > > > lord > > > > > > moon in capricorn in 7th house. It will be a > > > > lonely > > > > > > time for you. Please see the degree of your > > > > natal > > > > > > moon in capricorn, you need to be very > > careful > > > > when > > > > > > saturn comes to same degree in cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion saturn transiting 7th house > > from > > > > natal > > > > > > moon is more bad than ashthama shani. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks for clarifications!! > > > > > > I have another doubt :-) > > > > > > Incase with Cancer Asc, if moon is in 7th > > and > > > > saturn > > > > > > is in 12th (gemini) then will saturn now > > become > > > > > > kantaka sani. that is > > > > > > Asc : Cancer : No planet > > > > > > 7th : Capricorn : Moon > > > > > > 12th:Gemini : Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > With the above combination, the sani will be > > > > kantaka > > > > > > sani. What are effects of the same sani ? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > angel goel > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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