Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Dear Mark: I am interested not only in meditation.I am also > interested in the one where,you can ask a nature of a > question through depth penetration of mind,.... like by reciting mantra of acual sattawa, which is omnipresent in universe and to know a unknow of this world. (commonly called sidhis).... Dear Shripal & Ritu: I'd like to add, here...a few thoughts.... There is that aspect of "prashna" in Jyotish which is really good at answering any question. As you may already know, when a person come's especially spontaneously, to ask a question, one can create a prashna chart, that is calculated at that exact moment, and the answer to their question can be found there. I find also, there is no, "intellectual" better way of understanding any question then being able to look and decipher, the deep meanings in our charts. However, it seems you might be also asking about an even deeper level of question and answering. And, that is there is an area of the mind, which only the "truth" resides. It's sometimes, called, the state of Pure Consciousness. When one's consciousness is pure enough, silent, and perfectly still, then, any desire, will automatically find it's fulfillment. Also, any desire, even far fetched, can also be fulfilled. There's an aspect of Ved, called the Siddhis, which are described as "Mental Abilities". Many of these include, levitation, knowing anything at a time, going anywhere, walking through walls.,....so quite amazing things. These Mental Powers, however, though they're often thought of as individual power's to be developed, especially, individually, have, however, been described, as indicative of the state of integration and enlightenment of Consciousness. There, are also, particular "mental techniques", that can be practiced, sometimes, called, Patanjali's yoga sutras, whose goals is to develop that state of deep knowingness. Today, in fact, there's a very active part of the TM program called the TM-Sidhis, program which has it's focus, the literal development of these sidhis, and the accompanying benefits as a result. The Maharishi, has described these practices, and techniques, not just to develop these "super-normal" abilities, or mental powers, but as a test, of one's integration in Consciousness. "Consciousness, is a field of all possibilities", Maharishi has said. And, the "sidhis, are a test, a verification of that potenital." If it's really true, that Consciousness has that power, then, go inside, stir that amazing integration, whether in meditation or the sidhis, and then, fulfill one's desires, without effort! Having meditated since 1970, and also, these same "sidhis" techniques since 1981, I can attest for much of their value. Sincerely, Mark Kincaid "Ritu Lalit" <sterlingritu JoeTischResearchProject Mon, 09 May 2005 06:46:40 -0000 JoeTischResearchProject [JoeTischResearchProject] 2-Mark Re: How meditation work's with other remedial measures?> MK 5/5 Shripal, Go to the website www.silvaultramindsystems.com and enrol for the free lessons. It works for me. I dont know about others. Ritu JoeTischResearchProject, Shripal <d_shripal> wrote: > Jai jinendra Ritu, > > I am interested not only a meditation.I am more > interested in the one where,you can ask a nature a > question through depth penetartion of mind,like by > reciting mantra of acual tattawa,which is omnipresent > in universe and to know a unknow of this world. > > Just sent me a link,let me see waht method that re > using,let me try ou. > > --- Ritu Lalit <sterlingritu> wrote: > > > Shripal, > > > > I have been following the Silva Programme for the > > last 5 years, the > > centering exercise is a very good guide to > > meditation. If you would > > like it, I can send you a link. > > > > Ritu > > > > > > JoeTischResearchProject, > > Shripal > > <d_shripal> wrote: > > > Jai Jinendra, > > > > > > Can you just shows us some steps to do meditation > > in > > > Car or Bus in travelling that time we can really > > > utilize,as it take more than hour to travel. > > > > > > Just some quicl lessons for us,I am already doing > > a > > > Meditation,such as reciting Mnatra.I would like to > > > know your method. > > > > > > I have visited a site tm.org,but couldn't find a > > > actual thing.I will re-visit again.Or you can sent > > me > > > exact site address that you are referring too. > > > > > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shripal & Jugal: > > > > > > > > Yes, Jugal is right. Meditation has not only > > been > > > > found to have a powerful > > > > effect on emotional, and mental challenges, but > > also > > > > aspects of > > > > self-confidence and self-esteem. > > > > > > > > Also, because the experiene of meditation is an > > > > holistic experience, it > > > > seems to be having a good influence upon, > > literally, > > > > every aspect of > > > > people's live's. > > > > > > > > (Today, literally millions of people have taken > > the > > > > course in TM, alone, and > > > > hundreds of scientific studies have been done, > > see > > > > below) > > > > > > > > In terms of health, TM, gives deep, deep, > > silence to > > > > the mind, and because > > > > the mind & body are connected, deep pockets of > > > > physical tiredness and > > > > stress, are eliminated. > > > > > > > > People who meditate, especially regularly, > > > > experience, that each time they > > > > meditate, that inner reservoir, begins to be > > lived > > > > outside even, meditation. > > > > > > > > I also appreciate how Ayurved understands the > > key to > > > > health, is the internal > > > > dynamism, of each person's nervous system. > > > > > > > > There's only one real problem for everyone no > > matter > > > > what their dis-ease or > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > Disease resides, in a lack of strength of the > > > > nervous system. Specifically, > > > > the immune system is key, to the repulsion of > > all > > > > viruses, harmful bacteria, > > > > and even stress. > > > > > > > > I find it very fascinating that meditation has > > also > > > > been found to > > > > spontaneously improve the immune system as well. > > > > > > > > When one of my sisters, a few years ago, first > > got > > > > Cancer, when she went to > > > > her Doctor, in additon to the normal things > > you'd > > > > suggest he's recomment, at > > > > the end he said: "I'd also like to recommend > > > > meditation." My sister > > > > starting laughing. "What's so funny?" he said. > > > > "Oh, .... my big brother's > > > > really into meditation, and he's always wanting > > me > > > > to meditate!" > > > > > > > > I, too laughed when I heard this story. Of > > course, > > > > even though she's > > > > learned meditation, she's not, often very > > regular. > > > > But, that's her choice. > > > > > > > > For many years I taught meditation, full-time, > > have > > > > in fact taught 1,000's > > > > of people how to meditate, and the Philosophy > > and > > > > the growing science of > > > > meditation. > > > > > > > > However, one of the reason's I got into > > > > Jyotish/Astrology, is because I > > > > found amongst many people who had been > > meditating, > > > > for many years; still > > > > some of their sufferings were continuing. > > > > > > > > When I looked at their chart's, and though they > > told > > > > me they had experienced > > > > many improvements in all the areas of their > > life; > > > > still once they told me > > > > what they were still suffering under, I found > > person > > > > after person, was still > > > > describing, the effects of one or another of > > their > > > > malefic areas! > > > > > > > > I remembered then, what my Guru, had told me, > > that > > > > in addition to > > > > meditation, all the other Vedic sciences, could > > have > > > > a very powerful affect > > > > on one's evolution! > > > > > > > > So, I jumped into Jyotish, and as I figured out, > > the > > > > many things that today, > > > > I'm understanding, then, I noticed, again, a > > huge > > > > shift in my life, progress > > > > and evolution. > > > > > > > > Those, then, who meditate, and in addition, add > > the > > > > wisdoms, and > > > > prescriptions of Jyotish & Ayurved, are much > > more > > > > likely to not have > > > > emotional challenges, strugglings, and sickness. > > > > > > > > Today, I'm so happy to report, health, with all > > my > > > > planets, which is > > > > directly translating in to very wonderful, > > smooth, > > > > and exciting life and > > > > enjoyment. > > > > > > > > Now, I understand, we all, only need to > > understand > > > > the 'Scope' and the > > > > 'Wisdoms' of each of these primary 7, or 9 > > > > Astrological symbolisms. > > > > > > > > Once we come to understand that we only have > > these > > > > few 'ideas' and > > > > 'realities' to be in-tune with, then, we can > > really > > > > enjoy an effortless, > > > > ride in the direction of our lives. > > > > > > > > Fun, talking with you, again! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Today, literally millions of people have taken > > the > > > > course in TM, alone, and > > > > hundreds of scientific studies have been done, > > see > > > > below) > > > > > > > > See tm.org for more info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > > > > > > > > 5 May 2005 06:17:07 -0000 > > > > > > > > Re: 2-Mark: Re:How to strenghten > > the > > > > Moon, more?> MK 5/4 > > > > Remedial measures - Moon, other tha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shripal > > > > > > > > May be this is slightly out of the context. But > > yes > > > > meditation has great > > > > curing powers be it physical or psychological > > > > illness. It has been proved > > > > scientifically that diseases like jaundice, > > heart > > > > problems,lukedermia, blood > > > > disorders, diabetes etc. > > > > > > > > If you go little deep you will find that there > > is no > > > > better cure for > > > > physical illness other than meditation and top > > of > > > > that without any > > > > side-effects. > > > > > > > > Jugal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 05 May 2005 Shripal wrote : > > > > >Jai Jinendra Mark, > > > > > > > > > >Ok let me clarify my points,I am not talking > > about > > > > >emotional or mental disease here,disease such > > as > > > > >convulsions,allergies,cough,small pox,stomach > > > > >ache,nausea etc as they arise because of > > malefic > > > > >Moon.These diseases I am sure cannot be > > rectified > > > > from > > > > >Meditation,In fact you have it ,you will not be > > > > able > > > > >to meditate even.What remedial measures you ask > > a > > > > >person to follow,other than doctor. > > > > > > > > > >--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Jinendra Mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > Very inspiring and magnificent article on > > Moon, > > > > as > > > > > > usual. > > > > > > > > > > > > If any disease arised from Moon > > afliction,What > > > > > > remedial measures should be taken to heal > > that, > > > > > > within > > > > > > ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shripal: > > > > > > > > > > > > I mention in my article many of the ways > > in > > > > which > > > > > > the Moon can be > > > > > > strengthened. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll review them here again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon because it represents the 'Mind', > > 'heart', > > > > and > > > > > > especially, the > > > > > > emotional center, feelings and 'intuition', > > will > > > > be > > > > > > strengthened by anything > > > > > > that improves the Mind, Heart, and emotions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, and in fact, one of the remedial > > > > measures > > > > > > I didn't mention, > > > > > > enough is the activity of meditation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meditation is one of the best ways to > > strengthen > > > > the > > > > > > Moon, inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person meditates, the person is lead > > out > > > > of > > > > > > it's normal conscious > > > > > > thinking level, which is dominated by one > > > > thought > > > > > > after another after > > > > > > another. These, normal thoughts which are > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal <d_shripal> > > > > > > > > Spirituality_Astrology > > > > > > Wed, 4 May 2005 00:34:03 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > astrologyromance > > > > > > [spirituality_Astrology] Re:Jyotish > > > > > > Article...on ....".The > > > > > > Moon.....",... It's Nature, full-potential > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Jinendra Mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > Very inspiring and magnificent article on > > Moon, > > > > as > > > > > > usual. > > > > > > > > > > > > If any disease arised from Moon > > afliction,What > > > > > > remedial measures should be taken to heal > > that, > > > > > > within > > > > > > ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some addition to your article, > > > > > > > > > > > > As Moon is everchanging and is charged by > > Sun > > > > and > > > > > > its > > > > > > reflection is manifested in a form of > > > > > > feelings,emotions and desire. > > > > > > > > > > > > Positively it talks about sympathy,while > > > > negative > > > > > > effect is moodiness.It deals with > > individuals > > > > > > past,present and future,as future is arised > > from > > > > > > past.As result of it ,it signifies existense > > of > > > > word > > > > > > "US" or "WE" or "I", as it binds a body with > > > > soul > > > > > > and > > > > > > individual gains a personal experience out > > of it > > > > and > > > > > > constantly deceving or decting us from > > reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > As emotions are always been hazardous for > > us,for > > > > > > steering,guiding etc at a conscious level > > for > > > > > > adaption to the unconsciously perceived and > > > > > > illuminated reality for one's benefit or > > > > well-being > > > > > > or > > > > > > selfishness. > > > > > > > > > > > > If well-placed , a person is > > > > > > well-mannerd,carefree,fearfulness of > > wrong,focus > > > > on > > > > > > present love of honest,peace loving etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > If malefic than, makes one > > > > > > drunker,liar,idleness,lonely,lack of > > > > > > spirit,careless,lack of future > > thoughts,beggar > > > > etc > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > As it determines sensitivity,so karaka ro > > > > > > sifnificator > > > > > > of Mother,nuture,Women,Dream > > > > Interpreters,Magician > > > > > > etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon! > > > > > > > Article... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was inspired by how much people liked > > the > > > > other > > > > > > > article I wrote on Saturn, > > > > > > > that I thought I should write about all > > the > > > > > > planets, > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one's about the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Saturn, the Moon has it's positive > > and > > > > > > negative > > > > > > > sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon, originally, coming from the > > Latin, > > > > > > 'Lunar' > > > > > > > means, we get the word: > > > > > > > "Lunacy", > > > > > > > or insanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously that's the 'dark' side of the > > Moon's > > > > > > > force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, those that have delicate, or > > malefically > > > > > > > aggravated Moon's can > > > > > > > experience all manners of everything from > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > problems, to phobias, > > > > > > > anxieties, worries, and depression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, the Moon, itself, is called the > > Planet of > > > > the > > > > > > > Mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, the Mind, includes all possibilities, > > > > from > > > > > > > insanity, to enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We, obviously want to culture and develop > > our > > > > > > > Moon's, so that we grow in > > > > > > > term's of our > > > > > > > Mind-Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's first talk about the highest value > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > mind, and from wherever you > > > > > > > experience, your Moon, you can then aspire > > for > > > > > > > 'more'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The natural vision of the highest value of > > the > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > is contained both in > > > > > > > it's size, and it's Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is supposed to be the 'best' that is > > both > > > > > > > Exalted, and/or Full! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact there are many positive > > descriptions > > > > for a > > > > > > > person, if they have that > > > > > > > 'auspicious' Waxing Moon, in their charts > > or > > > > > > > Exalted, or in it's Own Sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon, however, is slightly more > > complicated, > > > > > > because > > > > > > > the Moon in it's > > > > > > > various Signs, isn't necessarily 'wrong' > > or > > > > > > > undeveloped if in Aries, or > > > > > > > Gemini, but just different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the best, 'judge' of the various > > > > levels > > > > > > of > > > > > > > strength of Moon and > > > > > > > Mind, is the size of the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bigger the Moon, the stronger, is > > one's > > > > > > > emotional or mental nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with 'good' Moon's have an evenness > > > > about > > > > > > > them, stronger, feeling > > > > > > > nature's and handle all aspects of life, > > > > including > > > > > > > stress, better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, there's been something missing in the > > > > normal > > > > > > > depictions of the Moon, in > > > > > > > all it's various stages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon, when it's not big, or when it's > > > > Waning, > > > > > > > and small, or in the > > > > > > > getting smaller, mode, is more about the > > > > 'starting > > > > > > > point' of the Mind, Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore no matter where your Moon is > > > > starting, > > > > > > > now, that you were born to > > > > > > > strengthen, and develop, your Moon/Mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon represesents Happiness, and also > > > > fulfillment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon as it's getting bigger and > > bigger, > > > > > > > expresses more and more, > > > > > > > brightness of the Sun, upon us, and like > > that, > > > > the > > > > > > > bigger someone's Moon, > > > > > > > is, the more pure inner, 'light' of Being, > > or > > > > > > > Consciousness, is able to > > > > > > > light, into our Heart's and Mind's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon, itself, is like a big clock, > > > > churning, > > > > > > > bigger and bigger, then, > > > > > > > smaller and smaller. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's movements, always, churning, getting > > > > fuller, > > > > > > > and then, more and more > > > > > > > empty, represent's not only the state and > > > > stage of > > > > > > > development of our > > > > > > > Moon's; but,.... this cycle of the Moon, > > > > > > > also represent's the path of emotional > > growth > > > > and > > > > > > > development. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've discovered, that the cycle, itself, > > is a > > > > kind > > > > > > > of big, powerful, cycle > > > > > > > of 'Rest & Activity'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like the daily cycle, going to bed, early, > > one > > > > > > gains > > > > > > > better rest, and as a > > > > > > > result, more success during the next day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one learns how to follow this > > naturally, > > > > > > > cyclical, flow, of the Moon, > > > > > > > being more and more restful, inward, and > > > > > > > rejuvenative, during the Waning > > > > > > > part, then, the Waxing cycle, will be more > > and > > > > > > more > > > > > > > lively, and successful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to enjoy more success inside, > > and > > > > or, > > > > > > > outside, then, 'do', more > > > > > > > during the Waxing part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll generally, find yourself, with more > > > > energy, > > > > > > > and dynamism, as the > > > > > > > light upon the Moon is brighter and > > brighter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll also find that you need less rest > > > > during > > > > > > this > > > > > > > cycle and outwardness > > > > > > > is natural, and very purposeful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, the minute the Moon starts to 'Wane' > > see, > > > > if > > > > > > > you notice, next time, > > > > > > > that there's an immediate, inwardness, or > > > > settling > > > > > > > down, goings on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After watching the Moon for awhile, since > > > > 1988, I > > > > > > > began to 'feel' that flow > > > > > > > inside of me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the Moon's getting bigger and bigger, I > > > > > > noticed, > > > > > > > 'I', including my body, > > > > > > > but even, emotionally, I felt better and > > > > better, > > > > > > > with more energy, and > > > > > > > dynamism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, the minute, the Moon started to Wane, > > I > > > > > > noticed > > > > > > > an immediate, 'falling > > > > > > > off' type of experience, and then, > > eventually, > > > > I > > > > > > > realized,..it meant > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That shift, in Physiology, and Mind, > > seemed to > > > > > > > correspond with more and more > > > > > > > 'inwardness', of the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed more and more that 'I', or the > > body, > > > > > > > wanted to hibernate, curl up, > > > > > > > lie down, take a nap, be more inward...and > > get > > > > > > more > > > > > > > rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, I realized, the time's when I felt > > the > > > > most > > > > > > > chaos, were one's in which > > > > > > > I was not being in-tune, with these 2 > > cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Especially, the inward part, if I tried to > > be > > > > > > busy, > > > > > > > or had to, I noticed a > > > > > > > very strong, and sometimes, subtle quality > > of > > > > > > strain > > > > > > > going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also noticed that people seemed to > > suffer > > > > the > > > > > > > most, emotionally, when the > > > > > > > Moon, itself, was Waning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Originally, I thought this was just the > > nature > > > > of > > > > > > > the Moon, as in many > > > > > > > Astrological descriptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I realize, however, that it's more > > > > because > > > > > > > we're straining, and not > > > > > > > allowing that this is the natural purpose > > and > > > > > > > priority of the Moon, and our > > > > > > > Physiology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Women, know the Moon cycle already. Did > > you > > > > know > > > > > > > that women's 'cycle' is a > > > > > > > lunar cycle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people, have their cycles, during the > > > > Waning > > > > > > > part, and often, literally > > > > > > > around the New Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, often when their cycles are out > > of > > > > whack > > > > > > > and or especially rough > > > > > > > and exhausting, it turns out their cycles, > > are > > > > not > > > > > > > in-tune with that more > > > > > > > healing, restful time, but come during the > > > > Waxing > > > > > > or > > > > > > > 'bigger' Moon, parts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a while, I realized one of the > > greatest > > > > > > things > > > > > > > people should know > > > > > > > would be how to live their live's more and > > > > more > > > > > > > in-tune with those Moon > > > > > > > cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most successful people in business, > > already > > > > > > > recognize that business, itself, > > > > > > > goes through cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are of course, busy cycles, and then > > > > there > > > > > > are > > > > > > > time's when the need > > > > > > > arises, to pause, to collect oneself, > > maybe > > > > get > > > > > > > re-organized, or catch up > > > > > > > with previous paperwork, that got > > neglected > > > > during > > > > > > > the 'hay day' of the more > > > > > > > active cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I've discovered, however, is whenever > > I > > > > allow > > > > > > > myself, to be more and > > > > > > > more in-tune with those 2 primary aspects > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > Moon, I find myself being > > > > > > > the most successful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn has taught us about the need to > > rest > > > > more, > > > > > > > and to heal and > > > > > > > rejuvenate, recuperate, and renew; during > > the > > > > > > > appropriate times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daily Rest...and now we're hearing about > > the > > > > > > Monthly > > > > > > > rest cycle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayurved teaches, a lot about how to be > > more > > > > > > in-tune > > > > > > > with all the 'rest' > > > > > > > cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's that daily cycle, and going to > > bed, > > > > early > > > > > > > enough, that we get > > > > > > > completely refreshed, and prepared, for > > more > > > > easy, > > > > > > > smooth, and dynamic > > > > > > > activity of the next day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, there's the monthly cycle, which is > > > > > > > predominately a Lunar cycle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch the Moon for a couple of Months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See, if you notice a clear, difference > > within, > > > > > > > between the Waxing & Waning > > > > > > > Moon, cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll notice most of the time, feeling > > more > > > > > > inward > > > > > > > during the Waning part's > > > > > > > and more outward, and dynamic, during the > > > > Waning > > > > > > > parts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allow yourself, to be 'that' in-tune with > > > > those 2 > > > > > > > chapters, or cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As, I have, I've noticed a complete > > > > strengthening, > > > > > > > of my own, emotional > > > > > > > side, or self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you pay more attention to those cycles, > > > > you'll > > > > > > > find yourself, feeling > > > > > > > more centered, and natural, and prepared. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you rest more, then you'll pick up > > less > > > > > > stress, > > > > > > > and as you're picking > > > > > > > up less stress; especially emotional > > stress, > > > > then, > > > > > > > your very Moon, inside, > > > > > > > will shine more brightly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I've noticed about our > > chart's > > > > and > > > > > > our > > > > > > > Moon's, is the exact > > > > > > > details of our Moon's shows us the > > particular > > > > > > > lessons, that are not only > > > > > > > good for our Moon's but also more > > appropriate, > > > > for > > > > > > > ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll give you some examples. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have my Moon in the 12th, which is also > > > > there > > > > > > > along with Saturn. > > > > > > > My Moon is also only 1 house away from my > > Sun > > > > > > which > > > > > > > is in the 11th house. > > > > > > > In other words, the Moon is in the > > negative > > > > 12th > > > > > > > house, and #2, with a > > > > > > > fairly negative or malefically functioning > > > > Saturn, > > > > > > > and #3, is very small. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of these qualities, seemed to > > correspond > > > > quite > > > > > > > neatly to all my > > > > > > > emotional shyness, growing up. > > > > > > > I was very insecure. Now I understand it > > was > > > > > > > emotional. > > > > > > > I would always get my feelings 'hurt' very > > > > easily, > > > > > > > and even experienced much > > > > > > > worrying, anxieties, phobias, and even > > > > > > depression... > > > > > > > Whew! > > > > > > > Exhausting even reviewing that! > > > > > > > hehe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, the minute I learned how to meditate, > > in > > > > > > > college, immediately I started > > > > > > > feeling better. > > > > > > > Way back then, in 1970, I knew very little > > > > about > > > > > > > Astrology, but I knew I > > > > > > > surely needed something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each day, month, and then year, that > > slipped > > > > by, I > > > > > > > noticed I felt more and > > > > > > > more calm, settled, , and emotionally > > happy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew I was finally doing something > > right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, because of my extreme weakness of the > > > > Moon, I > > > > > > > still felt a lot of > > > > > > > weakness there, even after a number of > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, in 1988, I discovered Jyotish, and I > > > > > > > discovered a very real, > > > > > > > connection between all the Malefics in my > > > > chart, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > all the still, > > > > > > > frustrations, and unhappinesses, in my > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, I started studying the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read about what it was supposed to be > > like, > > > > in > > > > > > > both 'size' and by 'sign', > > > > > > > and I felt some kind of growing, value, > > there > > > > > > > inside, emotionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition to being more in-tune with the > > > > various > > > > > > > Waxings and Wanings of > > > > > > > the Moon, the Moon inside us, and our > > charts; > > > > also > > > > > > > teaches us about where > > > > > > > and how we're supposed to put more > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon, according to Jyotish, expresses > > > > where > > > > > > our > > > > > > > 'Conscious Mind's' are > > > > > > > meant to focus in this life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun may be about our Soul's life, and > > > > purpose, > > > > > > > but our Moon's are where > > > > > > > our Moon's are meant to focus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For someone with the Moon, in the 4th, the > > > > arena > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the home, and family are > > > > > > > most important. > > > > > > > For those with the Moon, in the 5th, > > Education > > > > is > > > > > > > primary. > > > > > > > For those with the Moon, in the 6th, > > health, > > > > and > > > > > > > healing are more vital. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With each house's nature comes each, area > > of > > > > > > life's > > > > > > > focus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me, the one good thing about the Moon > > > > being in > > > > > > > my 12th, is the positive > > > > > > > side of the 12th, was that I had a strong, > > > > thirst, > > > > > > > to know what was the > > > > > > > ultimate, purpose of life? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is by the way, one of the natural > > > > symbolisms > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the 12th house, is the > > > > > > > positive values of the 'Transcendental > > > > > > Reality'.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a hunger and a thirst, to want to > > know > > > > about > > > > > > > God, and the Ultimate > > > > > > > reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, that was the good thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bad part was my Moon, there, exhibited > > all > > > > the > > > > > > > classic malefic aspects > > > > > > > of 'loss', and 'over expenditures'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I realize over expenditures, mean's > > > > financial > > > > > > > expenditures, but also > > > > > > > over expenditures, emotionally! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I learned these things, and especially > > > > watched > > > > > > > the Moon, and strove to be > > > > > > > more in-tune with the Moon's nature, and > > > > cycles, I > > > > > > > found myself, living, a > > > > > > > much more fulfilling and satisfying > > emotional > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, when I started to understand the > > > > inherent > > > > > > > symbolism, especially, of > > > > > > > the negative sides of the 12th house, and > > > > > > especially > > > > > > > that quality of > > > > > > > over-expenditures, then I started to > > > > experience, > > > > > > > being again, more happy, > > > > > > > within. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What finally made a huge difference for > > me, > > > > was > > > > > > when > > > > > > > I realized that I was > > > > > > > supposed to gain, more inner balance, of > > > > money, or > > > > > > > savings, related to the > > > > > > > 12th house, and when I learned this, and > > > > actually > > > > > > > had some money put away, I > > > > > > > noticed a direct, powerful effect on my > > heart, > > > > > > > feelings, or Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, develop the strength of your Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Figure out the specific functionally > > malefic > > > > > > message > > > > > > > or symbolism that's > > > > > > > there in your Charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefics in our chart's are not just > > > > symbolic > > > > > > of > > > > > > > our problems, lessons > > > > > > > and griefs! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These same malefics are also symbolic of > > the > > > > very > > > > > > > things we need to do, and > > > > > > > learn, to literally, strengthen, and > > improve > > > > the > > > > > > > very functionings of those, > > > > > > > 'so-called' malefics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you then, learn to take even a few > > short > > > > > > steps, > > > > > > > into these > > > > > > > developments, you'll know you're > > progressing > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > right direction,.... > > > > > > > because the very real, and frustrating > > > > > > consequences > > > > > > > of those malefics will > > > > > > > begin to diminish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's the Moon, as that improves, you'll > > > > notice > > > > > > > feeling better > > > > > > > emotionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll feel more even, and happy, as a > > result! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anxieties, and worries will become less. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll find yourself, listening more to > > your > > > > > > inward, > > > > > > > intuition, and your > > > > > > > sense of automatic, non-linear, > > knowingness or > > > > > > > intuition, will be stronger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll also feel much more centered, and > > > > > > purposeful, > > > > > > > just because the Moon > > > > > > > is a very important and vital part of our > > > > lives' > > > > > > as > > > > > > > well as it is a part of > > > > > > > our Jyotish charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other prescriptions, and suggestions for > > > > > > > strengthening the Moon, include: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Pay more attention to what you feel > > > > > > > o As you recognize what you're needing, > > > > > > > emotionally, give that to > > > > > > > yourself. > > > > > > > o If you're tired, feel it, and then, > > rest. > > > > > > > o If you're worried, or anxious, then > > rest. > > > > > > > o If you are upset, or overshadowed, by > > > > things > > > > > > and > > > > > > > events, pay more > > > > > > > attention to how you feel, > > > > > > > strengthen that Moon, and see, if the > > > > worrying > > > > > > > doesn't diminish. > > > > > > > Other remedies include: > > > > > > > o "Don't worry, be happy." > > > > > > > o Allow yourself to enjoy, more. > > > > > > > o Nourish yourself, more. > > > > > > > o Give to yourself, emotionally, more. > > > > > > > o Have more fun! > > > > > > > Entertainment and fun, vacations, are > > very > > > > > > > healthy especially for our > > > > > > > Moon's! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We live in a society and a time, when > > > > Intellect, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > masculine 'Sun' values > > > > > > > dominate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole world-wide, 'women's movement' > > is > > > > really > > > > > > a > > > > > > > movement, to re-claim > > > > > > > the importance of the Moon! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the world, admired and respected > > 'women', > > > > and > > > > > > > 'Mother's' more, then the > > > > > > > Moon was stronger! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon represent's the female side of life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It represents 'emotions', it represent's > > > > > > 'feminine'. > > > > > > > It also represents nourishing, compassion, > > and > > > > > > > careing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your Moon, is found lacking in any of > > these > > > > > > > qualities... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1 Take yourself, and your Moon, to > > deeper > > > > levels > > > > > > > of bliss and inner > > > > > > > awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That experience, alone will have the > > potential > > > > of > > > > > > > strengthening your Moon! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #2 Then, find the particular insight that > > > > your > > > > > > > chart, and Moon are about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your Moon's in Aries, notice that you > > have > > > > a > > > > > > very > > > > > > > real tendency to rush, > > > > > > > and be active. > > > > > > > This is very Ariesish of you, however, be > > sure > > > > > > that > > > > > > > you're doing enough for > > > > > > > the quality, and inner happiness of the > > Moon, > > > > as > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, yes, I forgot to add.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #1 Find the size of your Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's not Full, whether, very small, > > just > > > > > > > beginning to Wax, as in my case, > > > > > > > or anywhere between, almost nil, and Full, > > > > then, > > > > > > put > > > > > > > more attention on > > > > > > > increasing it's size. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Moon's in the Waning motion, then > > > > > > recognize, > > > > > > > you were really born, to > > > > > > > put more attention, and pursue, the deeply > > > > > > > fascinating, and yet, unique > > > > > > > qualities of developing that precious, > > > > > > 'inwardness' > > > > > > > of the Moon/Mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #3 Once, you find the particular > > lesson > > > > and > > > > > > > symbolism of your Moon, > > > > > > > then, do whatever is needed to bring more > > > > peace, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > eliminate any malefic > > > > > > > influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon with each Different > > > > > > > Malefic, situation... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people have their Moon's with > > difficult > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > like my Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case, it was not only important that > > I > > > > learn > > > > > > > to strengthen the size of > > > > > > > my Moon, > > > > > > > but I also had to learn how to 'balance' > > my > > > > > > Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I hadn't then, my Moon, was a regular > > > > > > > barometer, of the Moon's great > > > > > > > miseries, and imbalances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If someone's got their Moon with their > > Sun's, > > > > this > > > > > > > represents the New Moon, > > > > > > > and the absolute importance of > > strengthening > > > > the > > > > > > > size of the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the Sun, with the Moon, also has > > > > another > > > > > > > unique characteristic, and > > > > > > > that is, the Sun represents will, and > > 'self' > > > > so > > > > > > > selfish, is one of the Sun's > > > > > > > less then positive aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the Moon is then, there, with the > > Sun, > > > > > > > typically, people's past > > > > > > > selfish, or ego-centric, efforts and > > > > activities, > > > > > > > have actually interfered, > > > > > > > and even, hurt, their own, emotional > > sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the lesson, here, then, is to put > > more > > > > > > > attention on your feelings, > > > > > > > to give more to yourself, emotionally, and > > > > follow > > > > > > > your intuition, more and > > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If someone's got their Moon, with a > > malefic > > > > > > > functioning, Mars, then, the > > > > > > > quality of pitta, of anger, of bossiness, > > of > > > > > > > fighting, have literally > > > > > > > invaded the natural quality and subtle, > > > > wonderful > > > > > > > qualities of the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In some of these cases, it's not really > > the > > > > Moon > > > > > > > that's acting malefically, > > > > > > > but the Moon, is a natural reflection of, > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > this case, Marish, too > > > > > > > harsh quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this example, then Mars needs to be > > > > controlled, > > > > > > > diminished, and issues > > > > > > > such as anger, resentment, and especially, > > > > > > blameing > > > > > > > others, needs to be > > > > > > > mastered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In future articles we'll talk about how to > > > > balance > > > > > > > the Mars, Sun, Rahu&Ketu, > > > > > > > to name the normal planets that act the > > most > > > > > > > malefically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll end with one more final malefic > > > > influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's say someone's Moon is with Rahu, > > which > > > > > > almost > > > > > > > always is found acting, > > > > > > > bizarrely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to tell, in fact if Rahu is acting > > > > > > > malefically, is to see, if it's > > > > > > > negative consequences are dominating, and > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > case, dominating, in the > > > > > > > very Moon, or your emotional life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People with these kind's of negative > > Rahu's > > > > will > > > > > > > have experiences, of > > > > > > > obsessions, compulsions, and even > > addictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Rahu represent's these negative's > > > > then, > > > > > > when > > > > > > > Rahu is close to the > > > > > > > Moon, these negative tendencies, or > > patterns, > > > > even > > > > > > > bad habits, will affect > > > > > > > one's emotions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the solution for this is to learn > > how > > > > to > > > > > > > balance, Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, we'll talk more in a separate > > article > > > > about > > > > > > > Rahu, but for right now, > > > > > > > let me just say, the extent to which your > > > > stive, > > > > > > to > > > > > > > eliminate the very > > > > > > > quality of 'obsession's' or 'fame', or > > > > > > 'addiction's, > > > > > > > then, Rahu will begin > > > > > > > easing up it's negative 'grip' upon the > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More, later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here we have it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon represent the mind, heart, and > > > > feelings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon therefore represent's happiness, > > > > > > > satisfaction, and inner joy and > > > > > > > bliss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Moon, also, is the primary planet of > > > > > > fulfillment > > > > > > > and contentment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, identify your present level of > > > > inner > > > > > > > happiness, and if you're not > > > > > > > experiencing all the happiness, that you > > would > > > > > > like; > > > > > > > then, consider strengthening your Moon! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer > > > > > > > Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved. > > > > 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