Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Dear friends it gives immense pleasure to note the high maturity with which all senior fraternity have expressed their views on offering their services. Here I wish to make a few observations: 1. Several members including SRR have rendered great service by answering several questions. 2. Special mention of thanks to Mark Kincaid for his willingness to share comprehensive information on variuos planets and thier impacts which must have been penned by him after decades of experience. This is really praiseworthy and may god bless him for his knowledge sharing, which I hope he would continue to do so. Even the few dollars he is charging is pittance when one finds the tomes of knowledge created by him. 3. Another special mention also needs to be given to Mr P.M.Gopalachary who also answered several questions free of cost and he has a great databank of resources of analysing a person's future according to various types of astrology and his charges are nominal i.e. just Rs.200. 3. When Mark mentioned that even though he charges money, to poor people and for students he has imparted his services freely, it shows the kindness of a guru (jupiter) 4. It is true that, as Mark mentioned, a disciple must offer a gurudakshina but it is left to him only. Hope all the question seekers offer the gurus, once their predictions come true, to give them an opportunity to show their gratitude and it is upto the gurus whether to accept it or not. This way they are only increasing the respect for astrology science and would also make the money-charging professionals to give free services. With best wishes and regards Arjun Divya <touchbase_divya wrote: Respected Kumaria ji, Please do not feel so offended. When I read that mail, I did not feel there was an intention to offend. I respect you and all others who are giving free advice at this forum. Maybe you are a very sensitive person, that is why you feel this way. I hope everyone in this group will keep contributing in whatever form they can. Hoping to learn from all members..... Divya "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: Dear Mark and All Well now this topic has closed, yet here are my final thoughts, since i see so many similar threads in circulation: I have nothing personal against those who are providing professional astrological services and charging for the same. Its reasonable that if one has spent great amounts of time and money in learning astrology and has taken up astrology as a profession, then they are expected to charge and I was not commenting upon this aspect. The real point is all such professional astrologers have no right to criticize others who are spending their valuable time helping others free. They should keep all such thoughts to their own private arena/groups/private emails and not use jyotish-remdies group or interent as a media to broadcast such offensive thoughts, with all due respects to Sage Parasara and all the Sages, who have generously given this great knowledge to everyone. What's the difference between someone who has spent hundreds of hours learning astrology(who is not charging) and a professional astrologer? Does charging make the so called professional astrologer more intelligent and give him/her the right to look down upon the readings of others?? Yet there are so called reputed professional astrologers who charge thousands of rupees/dollars/other currencies and yet they have given incomplete and failed predictions...so what has money got to do with so called, " Respect for Predictions"...so what's their contribution anyway..they hardly helped anyone free and took away precious resources even from those whom they charged to help ?? Thanks and Regards Rajesh Kumaria _________ , Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > Dear Arjun & All: > > I'd like to add one thing. > > Whether one charges, or not, the important thing is that we all continue > growing in this great science of life, make this wisdom more and more > available for mankind. > > Personally, I think it's very important that we consider 'investing' in our > Jyotish, because the investments I have made, spending thousands of dollars, > to go to India, and get exposed to the great wisdom of Jyotish; have changed > me forever. > > However, the field of Jyotish needs, much more investment of capital. > > We all should get involved in making Jyotish more available. > > Having it always, only be a non-profit activity, is not always practical. > > For example, I have been studying Jyotish for over 18 years, and doing it > professionally at least for 10 years. > > And, the fact, that people are not used to spending money in their Jyotish, > is frustrating, because it mean's I have to spend valuable time away from > Jyotish, to make enough money that I can continue doing it. > > Personally, I have no problem chargeing people money for my time, and > insights. > > I also, (and this is a personal choice), I spend a lot of my time, helping > people for free, either because they don't have the money, or to show people > that these benefits are possible. > > However, I think it might be advisable, that we all consider making at least > donations, towards those people that you're presently getting free advice > from. > > The entire field of Jyotish, could be vastly more improved, and made more > available for millions of people, if we all, had more finanancial resources. > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > ps.... finally, I'd like to say: I have no problem with those who choose to > do their Jyotish for free, but even for those people, I'd like to encourage, > their Jyotish recepients, to make donations to them, for their gifts of > giving. > > The tradition in India, as you approach the Guru, is to give. > > The Guru's shoes, are there, to receive the rupees, of the disciples. > > And, though the Guru doesn't always need it, it's also good for the > disciple, to give back for these gifts of Vedic Wisdom. "Sudhakar" <sapsud@h...> > > Mon, 16 May 2005 21:12:09 +0530 > <> > Shifting to Physics and Chemistry of Astrology and away from > the COMMERCE of it > > > It is a good move to shift to the Physics and Chemistry of Astrology and > away from the Commerce of it. :-) > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of SR.Rajkumar > Monday, May 16, 2005 7:56 PM > > Re: Let us all close this infighting hereitself > > Anyway is acceptble to me sir. > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote:My dear fraternity > Mr Rajkumar has shown high maturity in sending this mail and kindly let us > all close this thread here itself. Otherwise it would create a bad image > for astrology itself as one astrologer is criticising another. However, I > repeat my humble request to all those brothers who are charging money to > render free services to those people who are really poor and deserving e.g. > if a person is badly in debt and seek your advice, you cannot demand charges > from him. That way you would be treating your profession in a noble way. > Hope my friend Rajkumar agrees to this and let us all praise our ancient > sages who has delivered us this great science. > Bye the bye friends, I find that in India we follow the astrology science > like Physics with planets and in China they follow the astrology science > like Chemistry with elements. Can my learned friends throw more light on > the physics and chemistry of astrology. > With best regards > Arjun > > "SR.Rajkumar" <rajkumar_v3> wrote: > ok ok. sorry. I was very haste in reading it. Well in a way he has a meaning > in it. Whatever is offered free mostly loses its charm.Anything should have > a value.When something is offered free, there is a tendency to go to many > people and discuss the same. but in anyway those who offer to give free > advices can do so at their free will, nobody stopping them and those who > want to charge shall at their own convenience. All in the game. It is Mr. > Rajasekhars individual view. People will have their own views. > > myst070 <myst070> wrote:Dear Sir, > > I did read the message, that is why I was surprised. It says > > "Usually I Don't Like To Discuss Indvidual's Personal > Analysis (Except Public Personalities) In Open Discussions > For Many Reason's... And More Over Free Readings Never Yields > Its Respect... I Have "Personal Consultation Service" For > indviduvals At My Group" > > It is not questioning the "genuinity of the predictions made by the > free telling astrologers". > If giving free advice has not appealed to him, that is his > experience. > Where is the reason to feel insulted for those who are giving free > advice? I dont feel any less respect for them just because somebody > else's path is different than theirs! > > MS > > , "SR.Rajkumar" > <rajkumar_v3> wrote: > > The discussion started when Mr Rajasekhar talked about the > genuinity of the predictions made by the free telling astrologers > which should have been avoided. Astrology is a profession and nothing > wrong in accepting or charging fees. > > SR.Rajkumar > > > > myst070 <myst070> wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > I am quite surprised at the reactions to Mr S.N.Rajasekaran's mail. > > > > I respect all the people who are devoting time to help others, free > of > > charge. > > Yet, I also respect an individual's view to charge a fee if he > feels > > that is the right thing for him to do. > > > > Where is the contradiction? Why this feeling of insult when u are > doing > > what u feel is right? > > > > Please, let us not judge each other. > > > > MS > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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