Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Dear friend, we have discussed it a number of times in the group and so please refer to the archives. Simply answering you in a crude manner, nobody knows what happens to soul after death. There are many theories and hypotheses to explain it, about which you can read in classical texts. All schools differ in AATMA and PARAMATMA concept but interesting enough. To know what happens to soul after death, try to find out WHAT HAPPENS TO A FLAME AFTER IT BURNS OUT IN AN OIL LAMP! It may take some years, decades or incarnations to find out what happens exactly! When you know it completely, you would not be in this world! To support this, I recommend you to read the famous GARGI-YAJN~AVALKA conversation at king JANAKA's court and related discussion in BrihadaraNyaka Upanishad.(Second Brahmana) yours KAD , a##d <myst_ak47> wrote: > hi everybody...I NEED ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS!!! > if at all anybody has time to unveil these mysteries > of life after death,im very keen discussing. > > what happens to the soul after death?i read couple of > articles which state that the soul travels the inner > circles of cosmos and thus is decided which form its > going to take.my doubt is when everything is decided > why talk of karma? > > i read many posts on this group,and when everything is > predictable whats the point talking of karma,pap and > punya,when everythings is decided as if nothing is in > ur hands.things happen as they have been decided for > u...so why are we are neither doing a good deed or > comitting a sin,since we are living the way its > already decided by the Guy up there who writes our > fate.why admire or despise someone for what they > are?even if someone shows miraculous strengths ,he is > still written that he/she are born with so and so > qualities. > > so whats the meaning of this life and strife when > everything is decided.it has nothing to do with our > beliefs and faith.a person whos destined to be a great > man will be,a person whos destined to live ordinary > life will do...theres only an illusion created that we > are striving,but theres no strife from us-the humans > since we are mere robots designed under Him. > > so everything falls to zero...nothingness.and that > seems so meaningless cause i never find answers to > these questions.its like creating a pot of gold all > life which is going to turn to dust some day,cause > nothing remains.why happiness or frustrations or > satisfaction,nothing has any meaning since everything > is decided.we are not really doing anything.the whole > cycle looks weird to me.pls explain anybody?what is > the meaning of this life when every action is decided. > > A##D. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Well perhaps this site can help you:What Becomes Of The Soul After Death By Sri Swami Sivananda http://www.dlshq.org/download/afterdeath.htm#_VPID_6 Here's a quote from the site: "The soul which passes out of the body after death is termed `Preta', one that is bound on its onward march to the Beyond. The soul in its disembodied form hovers about its original and familiar places for ten days. It is in the form of a ghost during these ten days. The astral body takes shape from day to day with the formation of the head, eyes, and other limbs of the Linga Sarira, fed and nourished by the sesamum and water poured out in libation over the stones which represent the ancestors. The soul is fully embodied on the eleventh day. It starts on its journey to the judgement seat of Lord Yama, the God of death. It takes one full year from the time of death to reach Lord Yama's place. The path is beset with obstacles, distress and difficulties. The man who has done the most wicked deeds suffers more. But the difficulties can be removed and the journey be rendered easy and comfortable by the oblations and offerings given by the son of the deceased during the first year of the soul's journey and by feeding pure and learned Brahmins. The son should offer rice-balls to the father, without weeping. Death is certain for those who are born, and birth is certain for the dead. This is inevitable. Therefore, you should not grieve over it. The ten days' rites should not be neglected. The son should perform the Sapinda ceremony on the twelfth day and the sixteen monthly offerings. The soul is sustained on its onward march to the judgement seat by the libations offered to it by the son. The soul is scorched on the way by intense heat, but the gift of an umbrella by his son on the eleventh day gives pleasant shade above his head. The path is full of great thorns, but the gift of shoes helps him to go riding on horses. The miseries of cold, heat and wind are dreadful there, but he goes happily along the way by the power of gift of clothes. There is great heat and there is no water, but drinks water when thirsty, through the gift of a water-pot by his son. The son should make a gift of a cow. Chitragupta, the recorder of fact, the Accountant-General in the Kingdom of Lord Yama, informs the soul of his good and bad actions in his earthly life after the end of one full year. The soul leaves off its Pretatva or the garb of a traveller on this day. He is raised to the status of a Pitri or Ancestor." All the best( i am also reading all this yet...). _____________ , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear friend, > we have discussed it a number of times in the group and so please > refer to the archives. > Simply answering you in a crude manner, nobody knows what happens to > soul after death. > There are many theories and hypotheses to explain it, about which you > can read in classical texts. > All schools differ in AATMA and PARAMATMA concept but interesting > enough. > > To know what happens to soul after death, try to find out WHAT > HAPPENS TO A FLAME AFTER IT BURNS OUT IN AN OIL LAMP! > It may take some years, decades or incarnations to find out what > happens exactly! > When you know it completely, you would not be in this world! To > support this, I recommend you to > read the famous GARGI-YAJN~AVALKA conversation at king JANAKA's court > and related discussion in > BrihadaraNyaka Upanishad.(Second Brahmana) > > yours > KAD > > > > , a##d <myst_ak47> wrote: > > hi everybody...I NEED ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS!!! > > if at all anybody has time to unveil these mysteries > > of life after death,im very keen discussing. > > > > what happens to the soul after death?i read couple of > > articles which state that the soul travels the inner > > circles of cosmos and thus is decided which form its > > going to take.my doubt is when everything is decided > > why talk of karma? > > > > i read many posts on this group,and when everything is > > predictable whats the point talking of karma,pap and > > punya,when everythings is decided as if nothing is in > > ur hands.things happen as they have been decided for > > u...so why are we are neither doing a good deed or > > comitting a sin,since we are living the way its > > already decided by the Guy up there who writes our > > fate.why admire or despise someone for what they > > are?even if someone shows miraculous strengths ,he is > > still written that he/she are born with so and so > > qualities. > > > > so whats the meaning of this life and strife when > > everything is decided.it has nothing to do with our > > beliefs and faith.a person whos destined to be a great > > man will be,a person whos destined to live ordinary > > life will do...theres only an illusion created that we > > are striving,but theres no strife from us-the humans > > since we are mere robots designed under Him. > > > > so everything falls to zero...nothingness.and that > > seems so meaningless cause i never find answers to > > these questions.its like creating a pot of gold all > > life which is going to turn to dust some day,cause > > nothing remains.why happiness or frustrations or > > satisfaction,nothing has any meaning since everything > > is decided.we are not really doing anything.the whole > > cycle looks weird to me.pls explain anybody?what is > > the meaning of this life when every action is decided. > > > > A##D. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Hey!thank u all for the wonderful information.i appreciate ur help! --- "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > Well perhaps this site can help you:What Becomes Of > The Soul After > Death By Sri Swami Sivananda > > http://www.dlshq.org/download/afterdeath.htm#_VPID_6 > > > Here's a quote from the site: > > "The soul which passes out of the body after death > is > termed `Preta', one that is bound on its onward > march to the Beyond. > The soul in its disembodied form hovers about its > original and > familiar places for ten days. It is in the form of a > ghost during > these ten days. The astral body takes shape from day > to day with the > formation of the head, eyes, and other limbs of the > Linga Sarira, > fed and nourished by the sesamum and water poured > out in libation > over the stones which represent the ancestors. > > The soul is fully embodied on the eleventh day. It > starts on its > journey to the judgement seat of Lord Yama, the God > of death. It > takes one full year from the time of death to reach > Lord Yama's > place. The path is beset with obstacles, distress > and difficulties. > The man who has done the most wicked deeds suffers > more. But the > difficulties can be removed and the journey be > rendered easy and > comfortable by the oblations and offerings given by > the son of the > deceased during the first year of the soul's journey > and by feeding > pure and learned Brahmins. The son should offer > rice-balls to the > father, without weeping. Death is certain for those > who are born, > and birth is certain for the dead. This is > inevitable. Therefore, > you should not grieve over it. The ten days' rites > should not be > neglected. The son should perform the Sapinda > ceremony on the > twelfth day and the sixteen monthly offerings. The > soul is sustained > on its onward march to the judgement seat by the > libations offered > to it by the son. > > The soul is scorched on the way by intense heat, but > the gift of an > umbrella by his son on the eleventh day gives > pleasant shade above > his head. The path is full of great thorns, but the > gift of shoes > helps him to go riding on horses. The miseries of > cold, heat and > wind are dreadful there, but he goes happily along > the way by the > power of gift of clothes. There is great heat and > there is no water, > but drinks water when thirsty, through the gift of a > water-pot by > his son. The son should make a gift of a cow. > > Chitragupta, the recorder of fact, the > Accountant-General in the > Kingdom of Lord Yama, informs the soul of his good > and bad actions > in his earthly life after the end of one full year. > The soul leaves > off its Pretatva or the garb of a traveller on this > day. He is > raised to the status of a Pitri or Ancestor." > > All the best( i am also reading all this yet...). > _____________ > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > we have discussed it a number of times in the > group and so please > > refer to the archives. > > Simply answering you in a crude manner, nobody > knows what happens > to > > soul after death. > > There are many theories and hypotheses to explain > it, about which > you > > can read in classical texts. > > All schools differ in AATMA and PARAMATMA concept > but interesting > > enough. > > > > To know what happens to soul after death, try to > find out WHAT > > HAPPENS TO A FLAME AFTER IT BURNS OUT IN AN OIL > LAMP! > > It may take some years, decades or incarnations to > find out what > > happens exactly! > > When you know it completely, you would not be in > this world! To > > support this, I recommend you to > > read the famous GARGI-YAJN~AVALKA conversation at > king JANAKA's > court > > and related discussion in > > BrihadaraNyaka Upanishad.(Second Brahmana) > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > , a##d > <myst_ak47> > wrote: > > > hi everybody...I NEED ANSWERS TO THESE > QUESTIONS!!! > > > if at all anybody has time to unveil these > mysteries > > > of life after death,im very keen discussing. > > > > > > what happens to the soul after death?i read > couple of > > > articles which state that the soul travels the > inner > > > circles of cosmos and thus is decided which form > its > > > going to take.my doubt is when everything is > decided > > > why talk of karma? > > > > > > i read many posts on this group,and when > everything is > > > predictable whats the point talking of karma,pap > and > > > punya,when everythings is decided as if nothing > is in > > > ur hands.things happen as they have been decided > for > > > u...so why are we are neither doing a good deed > or > > > comitting a sin,since we are living the way its > > > already decided by the Guy up there who writes > our > > > fate.why admire or despise someone for what they > > > are?even if someone shows miraculous strengths > ,he is > > > still written that he/she are born with so and > so > > > qualities. > > > > > > so whats the meaning of this life and strife > when > > > everything is decided.it has nothing to do with > our > > > beliefs and faith.a person whos destined to be a > great > > > man will be,a person whos destined to live > ordinary > > > life will do...theres only an illusion created > that we > > > are striving,but theres no strife from us-the > humans > > > since we are mere robots designed under Him. > > > > > > so everything falls to zero...nothingness.and > that > > > seems so meaningless cause i never find answers > to > > > these questions.its like creating a pot of gold > all > > > life which is going to turn to dust some > day,cause > > > nothing remains.why happiness or frustrations or > > > satisfaction,nothing has any meaning since > everything > > > is decided.we are not really doing anything.the > whole > > > cycle looks weird to me.pls explain anybody?what > is > > > the meaning of this life when every action is > decided. > > > > > > A##D. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 This is really an interesting write-up by Swami Sivananda. Thanx so much, Rajesh, for gifting it to us. SG Amor vincit Omnia (Love conquers Everything) -- Virgil ---------- -------------- Prof Santanu Ganguly Dept of English, Chanchol College, Malda 732123. (Formerly UGC_Sr Research Fellow in English, Jadavpur U.) - "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000 <> Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM Re: what happens to the soul after death > Well perhaps this site can help you:What Becomes Of The Soul After > Death By Sri Swami Sivananda > > http://www.dlshq.org/download/afterdeath.htm#_VPID_6 > > > Here's a quote from the site: > > "The soul which passes out of the body after death is > termed `Preta', one that is bound on its onward march to the Beyond. > The soul in its disembodied form hovers about its original and > familiar places for ten days. It is in the form of a ghost during > these ten days. The astral body takes shape from day to day with the > formation of the head, eyes, and other limbs of the Linga Sarira, > fed and nourished by the sesamum and water poured out in libation > over the stones which represent the ancestors. > > The soul is fully embodied on the eleventh day. It starts on its > journey to the judgement seat of Lord Yama, the God of death. It > takes one full year from the time of death to reach Lord Yama's > place. The path is beset with obstacles, distress and difficulties. > The man who has done the most wicked deeds suffers more. But the > difficulties can be removed and the journey be rendered easy and > comfortable by the oblations and offerings given by the son of the > deceased during the first year of the soul's journey and by feeding > pure and learned Brahmins. The son should offer rice-balls to the > father, without weeping. Death is certain for those who are born, > and birth is certain for the dead. This is inevitable. Therefore, > you should not grieve over it. The ten days' rites should not be > neglected. The son should perform the Sapinda ceremony on the > twelfth day and the sixteen monthly offerings. The soul is sustained > on its onward march to the judgement seat by the libations offered > to it by the son. > > The soul is scorched on the way by intense heat, but the gift of an > umbrella by his son on the eleventh day gives pleasant shade above > his head. The path is full of great thorns, but the gift of shoes > helps him to go riding on horses. The miseries of cold, heat and > wind are dreadful there, but he goes happily along the way by the > power of gift of clothes. There is great heat and there is no water, > but drinks water when thirsty, through the gift of a water-pot by > his son. The son should make a gift of a cow. > > Chitragupta, the recorder of fact, the Accountant-General in the > Kingdom of Lord Yama, informs the soul of his good and bad actions > in his earthly life after the end of one full year. The soul leaves > off its Pretatva or the garb of a traveller on this day. He is > raised to the status of a Pitri or Ancestor." > > All the best( i am also reading all this yet...). > _____________ > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > we have discussed it a number of times in the group and so please > > refer to the archives. > > Simply answering you in a crude manner, nobody knows what happens > to > > soul after death. > > There are many theories and hypotheses to explain it, about which > you > > can read in classical texts. > > All schools differ in AATMA and PARAMATMA concept but interesting > > enough. > > > > To know what happens to soul after death, try to find out WHAT > > HAPPENS TO A FLAME AFTER IT BURNS OUT IN AN OIL LAMP! > > It may take some years, decades or incarnations to find out what > > happens exactly! > > When you know it completely, you would not be in this world! To > > support this, I recommend you to > > read the famous GARGI-YAJN~AVALKA conversation at king JANAKA's > court > > and related discussion in > > BrihadaraNyaka Upanishad.(Second Brahmana) > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > , a##d <myst_ak47> > wrote: > > > hi everybody...I NEED ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS!!! > > > if at all anybody has time to unveil these mysteries > > > of life after death,im very keen discussing. > > > > > > what happens to the soul after death?i read couple of > > > articles which state that the soul travels the inner > > > circles of cosmos and thus is decided which form its > > > going to take.my doubt is when everything is decided > > > why talk of karma? > > > > > > i read many posts on this group,and when everything is > > > predictable whats the point talking of karma,pap and > > > punya,when everythings is decided as if nothing is in > > > ur hands.things happen as they have been decided for > > > u...so why are we are neither doing a good deed or > > > comitting a sin,since we are living the way its > > > already decided by the Guy up there who writes our > > > fate.why admire or despise someone for what they > > > are?even if someone shows miraculous strengths ,he is > > > still written that he/she are born with so and so > > > qualities. > > > > > > so whats the meaning of this life and strife when > > > everything is decided.it has nothing to do with our > > > beliefs and faith.a person whos destined to be a great > > > man will be,a person whos destined to live ordinary > > > life will do...theres only an illusion created that we > > > are striving,but theres no strife from us-the humans > > > since we are mere robots designed under Him. > > > > > > so everything falls to zero...nothingness.and that > > > seems so meaningless cause i never find answers to > > > these questions.its like creating a pot of gold all > > > life which is going to turn to dust some day,cause > > > nothing remains.why happiness or frustrations or > > > satisfaction,nothing has any meaning since everything > > > is decided.we are not really doing anything.the whole > > > cycle looks weird to me.pls explain anybody?what is > > > the meaning of this life when every action is decided. > > > > > > A##D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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