Why is Jupiter's transit in fourth house harmful

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Hi members,

 

I am not sure if this is correct but I have read that jupiter's transit

in fourth house harmful and even the pandavas in mahabharata had to

face huge probles in that phase, my question is why?transit in malefic

houses eg 6,8th,12th I can understand not fourth !!

 

fourth house is one of the most pious and important houses in astrology

after all it is the house of the mother, and a kendra, thats where

chandra the most powerful benefic gains digbala, with all this why is

gurus' transit considered harmful in the fourth.

 

Thanks.

Raghu

University of California

Los Angeles.

[Guest guest]

As a follow up, let me ask you people why Saturn's transit to the 4th house is

generally deemed harmful although its rationalized that Jupiter's is much

worse....?

 

Raghu <raghu_tillu wrote:Hi members,

 

I am not sure if this is correct but I have read that jupiter's transit

in fourth house harmful and even the pandavas in mahabharata had to

face huge probles in that phase, my question is why?transit in malefic

houses eg 6,8th,12th I can understand not fourth !!

 

fourth house is one of the most pious and important houses in astrology

after all it is the house of the mother, and a kendra, thats where

chandra the most powerful benefic gains digbala, with all this why is

gurus' transit considered harmful in the fourth.

 

Thanks.

Raghu

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Los Angeles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Raghu,

 

Jupiter is adverse in 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10 & 12 Houses. Transit laws are

different.

 

You say you cannot understand why 4th is deemed harmful ? What will you say

about find Jove's 10th Transit ? (Dasame Darika Vadham )

 

Janma Rama Vane Dukham ( 1)

Thritheeya Brahmatho Sira ( 3)

Chathurthe Pandava Bhrashta ( 4)

Shashte Maveli Bandhanam ( 6)

Ashtame Haritho Balee ( 8)

Dasame Darika Vadham ( 10)

Dwadase Ravano Hanti ( 12)

 

Hope this sloka will be useful to you.

 

Regards

 

G Kumar

Astro Scholar, Philosopher, Programmer

 

 

 

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Chenthel <nayanar64

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Monday, July 25, 2005 10:24 PM

Re: Why is Jupiter's transit in fourth house harmful

 

 

> As a follow up, let me ask you people why Saturn's transit to the 4th

house is generally deemed harmful although its rationalized that Jupiter's

is much worse....?

>

> Raghu <raghu_tillu wrote:Hi members,

>

> I am not sure if this is correct but I have read that jupiter's transit

> in fourth house harmful and even the pandavas in mahabharata had to

> face huge probles in that phase, my question is why?transit in malefic

> houses eg 6,8th,12th I can understand not fourth !!

>

> fourth house is one of the most pious and important houses in astrology

> after all it is the house of the mother, and a kendra, thats where

> chandra the most powerful benefic gains digbala, with all this why is

> gurus' transit considered harmful in the fourth.

>

> Thanks.

> Raghu

> University of California

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Dear Chenthel,

Your questions really touch upon the foundation of the subject and needs lot of

explanation

No doubt fourth house has different significances apart from what you have

mentioned .In Klapurusha it is also Heart.

If moon signifies manah karaka and mother and is feminine in orientation and a

chara house.

it also indicates direction north.when in gochara saturn transits this

house,being jalatatwa it is weak and prone for all diseases,being concerned

concerne with manah also worrisome.More a enemy's house and with discomfort.

Saturn by nature is malefic but a planet that is slow and hardworking and self

dependent.If it goes that kind of bhava finds itself in an uneasy position.being

slow planet it's aspect particularly malefic makes things worse.For a native

whose lagna lord is saturn the hardships are not felt severe but for others it

is a difficult position.

Also he is son of surya but considered as unwanted.

Where as Raghu mentioned about Mahabharata bringing about jupiter.A benific

planet and can always make things better by aspect but not by position.where it

gets posited being a slow planet spoils the bhava .this may compound the

problems for that bhava.Yet it improves 8th house with 5th aspect and 12th

(mokshabhava) through 9th aspect.

These improvements make issues easy for any one than other malefic planets where

all out efforts made by the natives receive not even slightest consolation.

This is how the planets portend.it is therfore not easy to make conclusions as

benific planets do good and malefics only contribute to evils.

krishnan

 

"fourth house is one of the most pious and important houses in astrology

"after all it is the house of the mother, and a kendra,

Chenthel <nayanar64 wrote:

As a follow up, let me ask you people why Saturn's transit to the 4th house is

generally deemed harmful although its rationalized that Jupiter's is much

worse....?

 

Raghu <raghu_tillu wrote:Hi members,

 

I am not sure if this is correct but I have read that jupiter's transit

in fourth house harmful and even the pandavas in mahabharata had to

face huge probles in that phase, my question is why?transit in malefic

houses eg 6,8th,12th I can understand not fourth !!

 

fourth house is one of the most pious and important houses in astrology

after all it is the house of the mother, and a kendra, thats where

chandra the most powerful benefic gains digbala, with all this why is

gurus' transit considered harmful in the fourth.

 

Thanks.

Raghu

University of California

Los Angeles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear

 

Jupiter is not that bad from 4th from natal moon.

 

The only thing that Jupiter(The Wise One) does not likes a fickle

minded boss (Moon in

the 10th house).

 

 

Similarly Saturn(The Work Master) dislikes most a lazy and fickle

minder boss. (Saturn in 4th from the natal Moon)

 

With regards,

Srikanta

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Hi

 

Can u please clarify that why is GajKesari yoga

supposed to be one of the good ones.

 

thanks

angel

 

--- asksrikanta <asksrikanta wrote:

 

> Dear

>

> Jupiter is not that bad from 4th from natal moon.

>

> The only thing that Jupiter(The Wise One) does not

> likes a fickle

> minded boss (Moon in

> the 10th house).

>

>

> Similarly Saturn(The Work Master) dislikes most a

> lazy and fickle

> minder boss. (Saturn in 4th from the natal Moon)

>

> With regards,

> Srikanta

>

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Dear friend,

 

The GajaKesari Yoga is formed

when

 

(1)Jupiter is in Cancer, Sagittarius or Pisces

 

and

 

(2) Moon in Kendra/Angle from it.

 

It is hoped that the Mind when guided by wisdom

will lead the soul in the path of rightousness and enlightenment.

 

For a full blooming of the effects of the Gaja Kesari Yoga

 

it is always better if

 

 

(1) sign and navamsa dispositor of both the Jupiter and Moon are

strong and well placed from the lagna ( dispositors in houses

3,6,8,12,11) may lead to some sort of Yoga Bhanga)

 

(2) Either Jupiter or Moon does not get aspects from the 3,6,8,12

houses or from any planets posited in their houses of debilitation

 

Besides the above conditions

 

the various types of Gajakesari Yoga can be classified in the

 

descending order of their importance

 

depending upon the influence of Jupiter on the Moon.

 

 

(1)Jupiter in 10th from Moon ( Moon following Jupiter-the mind

following the widom- please note that Jupiter in constellation of a

badly placed planet can mean - misleading wisdom, as constellation

dispositors shows the mental inclinations of the planets)

 

(2 & 3) Jupiter in 7th from Moon/ Jupiter and Moon in the same sign

(here the mind or emotion and the pure wisdom try to equally

influence each other- to arrive at a conclusive decision please note

the influence the constellation lords of Moon and Jupiter exercising

on both of these planets)

 

(4) Jupiter in 4th from Moon ( here wisdom is generally coloured by

the personal inclination of the individual- sometimes loosing its

purity)

 

Thus the effects of fructification/non-fructification of all the

good and bad Yogas of Astrology can be assessed in a very simple way.

 

With regards,

 

Srikanta

 

 

 

, angel <angelgoel> wrote:

> Hi>

> Can u please clarify that why is GajKesari yoga

> supposed to be one of the good ones.

>

> thanks

> angel

>

> --- asksrikanta <asksrikanta> wrote:

>

> > Dear

> >

> > Jupiter is not that bad from 4th from natal moon.

> >

> > The only thing that Jupiter(The Wise One) does not

> > likes a fickle

> > minded boss (Moon in

> > the 10th house).

> >

> >

> > Similarly Saturn(The Work Master) dislikes most a

> > lazy and fickle

> > minder boss. (Saturn in 4th from the natal Moon)

> >

> > With regards,

> > Srikanta

> >

> >

> >

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> > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

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