2-Sanjit: ....Effect of better interpreting Saturn, or any planet! >> Mark Kincaid 7/27

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Dear Mark, I went to your and read the article on Saturn which

was simply terrific! I could see how my negative Saturn was being reflected

in my actions like sleeping late, pushing hard, being out of tune and

creating stress for myself.

 

 

Dear Sanjit:

 

Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

 

I know what you mean, when I learned that my negatively, functioning or

malefic Saturn helped

me understand why I hated going to bed on time, and not getting or even

understanding the

importance of rest, and rejuvenation; then I began to make a conscious

desire to better

understand Saturn!

 

(See below for response to your other thoughts.)

 

 

 

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sanjit

Dear Mark,

 

 

 

I went to your

 

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and read the article on Saturn which was simply terrific! I could see how my

negative Saturn was being reflected in my actions like sleeping late,

pushing hard, being out of tune and creating stress for myself.

 

It's wonderful to hear you so clearly describe the benefit of being able to

understand

one's planets, (and in this case Saturn), .... more clearly.

 

Yours is a very great, positive, beneficial experience of the power and

wisdom of

Astrology.

 

During my sadesati, when I look back now, I realize that things would have

been so much more different if I hadnt pushed so much. The harder I tried

the more balance I lost and things kept getting more out of hand. Patience

is truly the biggest virtue that we can develop to offset a negative Saturn.

 

This too is a good experience. In fact all Saturn moments, sade sat

periods, Saturn dasas,

and even, Saturn transits, are all there, to show us how we're doing with

Saturn, in this

example.

 

Too often, I think, people just think that life's Astrological feedbacks are

just karmic.

 

However, once we've learned the lesson, say in the transits, then, future

transits don't

have to be so negative.

 

I'll give you an example.

 

When I first started studying the stars, (Transits), I noticed every month,

feeling very rough,

and almost depressive around the New Moon!

 

This initially was kind of depressing and made me feel very vulnerable and

weak.

 

It helped a little bit when I looked at my chart and realized this might be

due to my Sun & Moon,

only 1 house away from each other.

 

In other words, I was born with the Moon very small.

 

 

So, intuitively I thought, this negative transit, might be Nature, trying to

tell me something.

 

I then began experimenting with what is the Nature of the Moon, and was

there a unique

message for me, both in my chart, and especially in the pain of that New

Moon, transit?

 

After awhile it also occured to me that the Moon's doing something to us, or

with us, as it

plays out it's two Waxing & Waning cycles.

 

After awhile I realilzed that the Waning cycle just wasn't a cycle about

emptyness, or weakness

of the Moon, as you often read about.

 

The Moon waxes and wanes, a lot like the daily cycle of rest and activity;

at night and then,

during the day.

 

I realized that the Moon, when it's Waning, is encouraging us to go inward

and rest.

 

You can even experience this, in your body.

 

Then, once you recognize or learn to give in to this quality, inside, then,

you can begin to

notice, that the Waxing periods, are stronger, and more full of energy and

dynamism.

 

Very similar to resting more deeply at night and enjoying that greater

dynamism, during the

next day!

 

 

When I read your observations, I feel that they come more out of

experiences, observation and especially, introspection. What makes you go so

deep inside, I mean astrologically, which planet makes you so introspective?

 

When I was very young, I just felt very shy, and self-conscious with periods

of worry, and

especially some depression, here and there.

 

That experience along with a strong spiritual 'seeking', helped me search

for things like

Meditation.

 

I learned to meditate in college many years ago, (1970), and every day that

I meditated, I

noticed feeling better and better!

 

Now, I understand that 'meditation' has a great potential for expanding and

developing both

the Moon, & the Sun's in us!

 

Later, (1988), when I first began studying Jyotish I realized that that

'depressive', shy, part

came from my very small Moon in the 12th, (ie. Sun in the 11th house), along

with a Saturn

in my 12th as well.

 

I think my Moon/Saturn conjunction does have the potential of being

introspective....

 

However, ....

I think my Moon/Saturn conjunction, led me to be depressive when I was

young, but because

my Saturn was acting soooo malefically, early on in my life.

 

I also have, however, my Jupiter in Pisces, in the opposite house/sign, in

the 6th house, which I also think describes a fairly curious, and seeking

quality goings on.

 

Then, as various remedial measures began to help improve my Saturn and

eventually, even, my Moon, then the positive side of my Moon/Saturn

conjunction started to become more available!

 

Your mind seems to probe and question each tiny thing with astrology and

establish a connection. I find having introspective powers as a great

advantage because if you dont question, you wont find answers. Also, does

having a Libra ascendant help you in any way, particularly against Saturn?

 

I can't even begin to describe all the wonderful things that have come to

me, since learning

to meditate, in the early 70's....

 

More wakefulness inside. Less stress, more peace of mind, more expansion of

mind, and each

day as one meditates, the mind has a potential to unfold!

 

This Moon/Saturn, with Jupiter simultaneous conjunction and aspect, I think

expresses why I

have both a Moon/Jupiter nature, along with a Moon/Saturn nature.

 

Before I learned Jyotish & meditation, however, more of the negative side of

the Moon/Saturn

conjunction dominated!

 

Your mind seems to probe and question each tiny thing with astrology

 

Ahhhh, this may be due to my Moon in Virgo!

 

Not a lot of great attributes to Moon in Virgo, hehe, too critical, seeing

the faults, etc.

but once I learned to stop being so obsessive, and a perfectionist, then,

more of the positive

side of Moon/Virgo started to pop up.

 

 

Also, does having a Libra ascendant help you in any way, particularly

against Saturn?

 

I've found that those with strong Saturns, or as in my case, SAturn is

Yogakaraka, because

of that Libra Rising; Saturn is verrrrrry important.

 

When I didn't get Saturn when I was younger, it was very wildly malefic,

especially being in the

12th house, but as I learned to surrender, both in meditation, and later,

with Jyotish, then,

the more profound and wonderful qualities of Saturn started to ....as if,

pop up!

 

 

Best regards,

 

Sanjit

 

Nice talking with you!

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

ps.... I think the greatest thing I've learned from Astrology/Jyotish, is

that life is progressive!

 

Life is not just about our fates or karmas, but, even more importantly;

about our opportunities

for growth and personal change.

 

And, like if we find ourselves under the grip of accidents or accident prone

qualites; eventually

we begin to understand that 'Nature's' trying to tell us something!

 

Then, once we get it, "Oh, I'm going to fast!",

 

then we begin to change and even improve ourselves.

 

Now I understand the positive and negative consequences of our chart, or

experiences in life,

are there to show us how we're presently doing with each of our Astrological

planets!

 

 

ciao!

 

 

Jai Guru!

 

 

 

Astrologer

Teacher of Meditation & Ayurved

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