Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Thoughts I wanted to share today Having an appetite (for something good) is a positive and good thing in Jyotish. Example - 2H is troubled and can cause a person pertake low quality foods. But, a person has best quality foods ready for him but he has no appetite, and eats insufficiently - this is also negative as per Jyotish and infact it is. A full positive thing means eating best quality foods AND also in great quantity. I can rarely take vegetables and fruits, that is bad. When I do remedies affecting Sani, I automatically start eating fruits like banana, apples etc. Eating vegetables is affected later, for unknown reasons. When I do not do these remedies but still try to exercise free will and try to eat fruits - I find fruits bought by me get rotten for after buying I dont eat them (no inclination for fruits or just cannot eat) and later I forget to buy fruits or do not just get good quality ones in stores I stop by on the way of coming home. Doing remedies arrange everything perfectly for me and I find it so easy and PERFECTLY READY to buy and eat fruits. Sometimes eating them A LOT. Question is : What if we take a lot of good quality foods (every types) in plenty of quantity then gain weight ? Isnt this gaining weight bad in real and in Jyotish? The answer is tricky. Eating a lot and gaining weight are actually different in real life so even in Jyotish they are really different. Some people are born overweight and always overweight even after eating less. This is for watery planets and signs and also for Jupiter. Right now I am in Ju AD and I find it really difficult to reduce my belly even after eating really really less. I just cannot slim myself. Even in the Ju PD of last AD (Ra AD) I gained weight. But that was overall weight gaining. This time only stomuch seems to get affected most. Of course Ju remedies can do the trick but I do not want to address it right now. Shall explain later. Few days back I kept myself starving in order to lose weight and I often kept myself hungry but at last I found that keeping myself hungry was a side effect of a saturnian remedy I was trying. (Sa in my 2H and affects my eating a lot always while doing the remedies.) So it means keeping yourself hungry on purpose / to get something is also a bad effect. I have noted (amazingly) that when I do perfect remedies (To Sat etc.) I eat with great satisfaction (very naturally) but even the quantity is less, I feel very satisfied and FULL and do not feel any urge to eat more or anything. This shows how both weight losing can be possible even after eating less and having no problem with eating less. (No hunger etc.) I have also noted that when I do successful remedies, I sometimes cannot eat long time for being busy or having classes, but then after all of it I really never felt the hunger or never even remembered about missing lunch (so no suffering for want of food) and so I never "missed" or "required" eating while I was unable for having classes etc. This is divinity, and this is amazing. Now what I actually wanted to write in this post : 6L, Venus are the main factors for watching movies and listening to musics. (Primely, as I observe - my observation might have limitation in this regard.) This is what I observe. 6L sound makes one more HAPPY in general, it means the bad things AFFECT the person COMPARATIVELY LESS. (The 4H also comes here.) and through music, movies - one passes time in a comparatively better happiness for right when you are listening to musics etc., that time you are enjoying it. That is one reason behind it. I also have seen that good 6H makes people happy, even though with less property, moderate job, less money - but they are HAPPY people and not "distressed" or "worried" etc. 8H also comes here. I have a strong 8H (which is bad in this regard) and a very afflicted 4H so even very small things can make me very anxious and upset of all a sudden. That is what people see and I also know it. It shows my "happiness" is a sensitive point. Generally with strong 6L (which is bad for music) I enjoy real less movies and musics. When doing remedies I enjoy more musics and movies, buying new music CDs etc. After doing remedies for a few days I buy new CDs and enjoy them, then if I stop remedies then soon I find that those new CDs are pretty BORING. This is what I call to be, "Changing the past" ; that's my favourite term to use. Because when you experience it, you will FEEL that PAST is getting CHANGED. Most amazingly, when I agai start doing mantras, I find even very old boring songs enjoyable and I really enjoy them. This what to observe - planets change what I ENJOY. Buying new CDs everyday is not possible so sometimes for remedies I find that the songs of way back to 1998 I considered to be boring for so much listening are still somewhat interesting and enjoyable! Thus remedies work all the ways possible. They make things happen and they also change your behaviour. My cousin has a great taste of songs and he has more than 200-300 CDs in collection which he listens to. When I borrow his CDs, I can select only 1-2 songs out of his 30-40 songs. Because I am very much choosy about musics, even I cannot listen to the all of a song - I feel restless and bored. I only cut a small part of the song and only that part I listen to. Not the else. Then, what is the difference between me and my cousin? Actually, he is better than me in this regard. Very less songs can PLEASE or DELIGHT me, and so clearly I have less options or a narrow way to satisfy myself with songs. This is an indirect negativity. On the other hand, my cousin has a lot more acceptability of music and so he can enjoy musics MORE EASILY than I can. So it is easy for him to get happy with songs while it is not so easy for me to be so ! However, with remedies, I find boring songs to be interesting too, thus I get easy to get pleased. Thus planets make it "more possible" that I can be happy. Remedies work this way. So a good appetite is a blessing. (Well not if you have appetite but have no foods, not blessings then.) And you know what. A person having a low drive for sex is also having the negativity. Because for a smaller demand of sex, he can really never have the fullest pleasure of it, because he does not even need it that much. A person having a great interest / need for sex might have some problems fulfilling it, but when he can fulfill his great desire for sex in a legitimate way, is not he more happier than the person with a low sex drive? Thus having hunger (if you can fulfill it) is a positive thing for IT OPENS THE ROOM FOR FULFILLMENT. If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill ? We see the million colours of this creation. Another creature, if colour blind, sees only black and white. And even though it is happy with only black and white, who is actually experiencing the beauty of the world, or who is enjoying the world more extensively ? Of course he, who can see the colours. Thanks. What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Dear Tanvir Ji, The following quoted from your mail are in the context of "need to be hungry" and may also explain it's need too: 1.planets make it "more possible" 2.never have the fullest pleasure 3.try to exercise free will 4.remedies work all the ways possible 5.when he can fulfill his great desire Since we look from the point of view of Astrology,the Ascendant lagna personifies these issues.Both good and bad aspects. The methods as well as essentials need a close review.The person having appetite/no appetite is the essential discrimination one has to make before we really explain the nuances of Astrology.This exercise if taken up with proper understanding, can only lead to the satisfaction of:planets make it "more possible" In the same forum I was also addressing another interesting topic of "maldies in free dispensation of mantras and lead to evil".I find link in these topics. Ofcourse our wisdom sciences has brought out qualities of Astrology in a detailed way but then have not addressed"any requisites for hungry person".This situation may lead to saturnine effects or jupitarian characters that need to be addressed seperately.let's any way give credit to the potentialities of moon and also the very secret house that also brings in anxiety (very anxious and upset of all a sudden ). In all these analysis of lagna and the dispensation(4th house) need priority and better sequence. krishnan Tanvir <ultimate wrote: Thoughts I wanted to share today Having an appetite (for something good) is a positive and good thing in Jyotish. Example - 2H is troubled and can cause a person pertake low quality foods. But, a person has best quality foods ready for him but he has no appetite, and eats insufficiently - this is also negative as per Jyotish and infact it is. A full positive thing means eating best quality foods AND also in great quantity. I can rarely take vegetables and fruits, that is bad. When I do remedies affecting Sani, I automatically start eating fruits like banana, apples etc. Eating vegetables is affected later, for unknown reasons. When I do not do these remedies but still try to exercise free will and try to eat fruits - I find fruits bought by me get rotten for after buying I dont eat them (no inclination for fruits or just cannot eat) and later I forget to buy fruits or do not just get good quality ones in stores I stop by on the way of coming home. Doing remedies arrange everything perfectly for me and I find it so easy and PERFECTLY READY to buy and eat fruits. Sometimes eating them A LOT. Question is : What if we take a lot of good quality foods (every types) in plenty of quantity then gain weight ? Isnt this gaining weight bad in real and in Jyotish? The answer is tricky. Eating a lot and gaining weight are actually different in real life so even in Jyotish they are really different. Some people are born overweight and always overweight even after eating less. This is for watery planets and signs and also for Jupiter. Right now I am in Ju AD and I find it really difficult to reduce my belly even after eating really really less. I just cannot slim myself. Even in the Ju PD of last AD (Ra AD) I gained weight. But that was overall weight gaining. This time only stomuch seems to get affected most. Of course Ju remedies can do the trick but I do not want to address it right now. Shall explain later. Few days back I kept myself starving in order to lose weight and I often kept myself hungry but at last I found that keeping myself hungry was a side effect of a saturnian remedy I was trying. (Sa in my 2H and affects my eating a lot always while doing the remedies.) So it means keeping yourself hungry on purpose / to get something is also a bad effect. I have noted (amazingly) that when I do perfect remedies (To Sat etc.) I eat with great satisfaction (very naturally) but even the quantity is less, I feel very satisfied and FULL and do not feel any urge to eat more or anything. This shows how both weight losing can be possible even after eating less and having no problem with eating less. (No hunger etc.) I have also noted that when I do successful remedies, I sometimes cannot eat long time for being busy or having classes, but then after all of it I really never felt the hunger or never even remembered about missing lunch (so no suffering for want of food) and so I never "missed" or "required" eating while I was unable for having classes etc. This is divinity, and this is amazing. Now what I actually wanted to write in this post : 6L, Venus are the main factors for watching movies and listening to musics. (Primely, as I observe - my observation might have limitation in this regard.) This is what I observe. 6L sound makes one more HAPPY in general, it means the bad things AFFECT the person COMPARATIVELY LESS. (The 4H also comes here.) and through music, movies - one passes time in a comparatively better happiness for right when you are listening to musics etc., that time you are enjoying it. That is one reason behind it. I also have seen that good 6H makes people happy, even though with less property, moderate job, less money - but they are HAPPY people and not "distressed" or "worried" etc. 8H also comes here. I have a strong 8H (which is bad in this regard) and a very afflicted 4H so even very small things can make me very anxious and upset of all a sudden. That is what people see and I also know it. It shows my "happiness" is a sensitive point. Generally with strong 6L (which is bad for music) I enjoy real less movies and musics. When doing remedies I enjoy more musics and movies, buying new music CDs etc. After doing remedies for a few days I buy new CDs and enjoy them, then if I stop remedies then soon I find that those new CDs are pretty BORING. This is what I call to be, "Changing the past" ; that's my favourite term to use. Because when you experience it, you will FEEL that PAST is getting CHANGED. Most amazingly, when I agai start doing mantras, I find even very old boring songs enjoyable and I really enjoy them. This what to observe - planets change what I ENJOY. Buying new CDs everyday is not possible so sometimes for remedies I find that the songs of way back to 1998 I considered to be boring for so much listening are still somewhat interesting and enjoyable! Thus remedies work all the ways possible. They make things happen and they also change your behaviour. My cousin has a great taste of songs and he has more than 200-300 CDs in collection which he listens to. When I borrow his CDs, I can select only 1-2 songs out of his 30-40 songs. Because I am very much choosy about musics, even I cannot listen to the all of a song - I feel restless and bored. I only cut a small part of the song and only that part I listen to. Not the else. Then, what is the difference between me and my cousin? Actually, he is better than me in this regard. Very less songs can PLEASE or DELIGHT me, and so clearly I have less options or a narrow way to satisfy myself with songs. This is an indirect negativity. On the other hand, my cousin has a lot more acceptability of music and so he can enjoy musics MORE EASILY than I can. So it is easy for him to get happy with songs while it is not so easy for me to be so ! However, with remedies, I find boring songs to be interesting too, thus I get easy to get pleased. Thus planets make it "more possible" that I can be happy. Remedies work this way. So a good appetite is a blessing. (Well not if you have appetite but have no foods, not blessings then.) And you know what. A person having a low drive for sex is also having the negativity. Because for a smaller demand of sex, he can really never have the fullest pleasure of it, because he does not even need it that much. A person having a great interest / need for sex might have some problems fulfilling it, but when he can fulfill his great desire for sex in a legitimate way, is not he more happier than the person with a low sex drive? Thus having hunger (if you can fulfill it) is a positive thing for IT OPENS THE ROOM FOR FULFILLMENT. If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill ? We see the million colours of this creation. Another creature, if colour blind, sees only black and white. And even though it is happy with only black and white, who is actually experiencing the beauty of the world, or who is enjoying the world more extensively ? Of course he, who can see the colours. Thanks. What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Tanvirji, You say, "If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill?" But is it not possible that because there is so much fulfillment in a particular aspect of one's life, that is why there is no hunger. Then is this not positive(not having hunger)? Regards, Divya Tanvir <ultimate wrote: Thoughts I wanted to share today Having an appetite (for something good) is a positive and good thing in Jyotish. Example - 2H is troubled and can cause a person pertake low quality foods. But, a person has best quality foods ready for him but he has no appetite, and eats insufficiently - this is also negative as per Jyotish and infact it is. A full positive thing means eating best quality foods AND also in great quantity. I can rarely take vegetables and fruits, that is bad. When I do remedies affecting Sani, I automatically start eating fruits like banana, apples etc. Eating vegetables is affected later, for unknown reasons. When I do not do these remedies but still try to exercise free will and try to eat fruits - I find fruits bought by me get rotten for after buying I dont eat them (no inclination for fruits or just cannot eat) and later I forget to buy fruits or do not just get good quality ones in stores I stop by on the way of coming home. Doing remedies arrange everything perfectly for me and I find it so easy and PERFECTLY READY to buy and eat fruits. Sometimes eating them A LOT. Question is : What if we take a lot of good quality foods (every types) in plenty of quantity then gain weight ? Isnt this gaining weight bad in real and in Jyotish? The answer is tricky. Eating a lot and gaining weight are actually different in real life so even in Jyotish they are really different. Some people are born overweight and always overweight even after eating less. This is for watery planets and signs and also for Jupiter. Right now I am in Ju AD and I find it really difficult to reduce my belly even after eating really really less. I just cannot slim myself. Even in the Ju PD of last AD (Ra AD) I gained weight. But that was overall weight gaining. This time only stomuch seems to get affected most. Of course Ju remedies can do the trick but I do not want to address it right now. Shall explain later. Few days back I kept myself starving in order to lose weight and I often kept myself hungry but at last I found that keeping myself hungry was a side effect of a saturnian remedy I was trying. (Sa in my 2H and affects my eating a lot always while doing the remedies.) So it means keeping yourself hungry on purpose / to get something is also a bad effect. I have noted (amazingly) that when I do perfect remedies (To Sat etc.) I eat with great satisfaction (very naturally) but even the quantity is less, I feel very satisfied and FULL and do not feel any urge to eat more or anything. This shows how both weight losing can be possible even after eating less and having no problem with eating less. (No hunger etc.) I have also noted that when I do successful remedies, I sometimes cannot eat long time for being busy or having classes, but then after all of it I really never felt the hunger or never even remembered about missing lunch (so no suffering for want of food) and so I never "missed" or "required" eating while I was unable for having classes etc. This is divinity, and this is amazing. Now what I actually wanted to write in this post : 6L, Venus are the main factors for watching movies and listening to musics. (Primely, as I observe - my observation might have limitation in this regard.) This is what I observe. 6L sound makes one more HAPPY in general, it means the bad things AFFECT the person COMPARATIVELY LESS. (The 4H also comes here.) and through music, movies - one passes time in a comparatively better happiness for right when you are listening to musics etc., that time you are enjoying it. That is one reason behind it. I also have seen that good 6H makes people happy, even though with less property, moderate job, less money - but they are HAPPY people and not "distressed" or "worried" etc. 8H also comes here. I have a strong 8H (which is bad in this regard) and a very afflicted 4H so even very small things can make me very anxious and upset of all a sudden. That is what people see and I also know it. It shows my "happiness" is a sensitive point. Generally with strong 6L (which is bad for music) I enjoy real less movies and musics. When doing remedies I enjoy more musics and movies, buying new music CDs etc. After doing remedies for a few days I buy new CDs and enjoy them, then if I stop remedies then soon I find that those new CDs are pretty BORING. This is what I call to be, "Changing the past" ; that's my favourite term to use. Because when you experience it, you will FEEL that PAST is getting CHANGED. Most amazingly, when I agai start doing mantras, I find even very old boring songs enjoyable and I really enjoy them. This what to observe - planets change what I ENJOY. Buying new CDs everyday is not possible so sometimes for remedies I find that the songs of way back to 1998 I considered to be boring for so much listening are still somewhat interesting and enjoyable! Thus remedies work all the ways possible. They make things happen and they also change your behaviour. My cousin has a great taste of songs and he has more than 200-300 CDs in collection which he listens to. When I borrow his CDs, I can select only 1-2 songs out of his 30-40 songs. Because I am very much choosy about musics, even I cannot listen to the all of a song - I feel restless and bored. I only cut a small part of the song and only that part I listen to. Not the else. Then, what is the difference between me and my cousin? Actually, he is better than me in this regard. Very less songs can PLEASE or DELIGHT me, and so clearly I have less options or a narrow way to satisfy myself with songs. This is an indirect negativity. On the other hand, my cousin has a lot more acceptability of music and so he can enjoy musics MORE EASILY than I can. So it is easy for him to get happy with songs while it is not so easy for me to be so ! However, with remedies, I find boring songs to be interesting too, thus I get easy to get pleased. Thus planets make it "more possible" that I can be happy. Remedies work this way. So a good appetite is a blessing. (Well not if you have appetite but have no foods, not blessings then.) And you know what. A person having a low drive for sex is also having the negativity. Because for a smaller demand of sex, he can really never have the fullest pleasure of it, because he does not even need it that much. A person having a great interest / need for sex might have some problems fulfilling it, but when he can fulfill his great desire for sex in a legitimate way, is not he more happier than the person with a low sex drive? Thus having hunger (if you can fulfill it) is a positive thing for IT OPENS THE ROOM FOR FULFILLMENT. If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill ? We see the million colours of this creation. Another creature, if colour blind, sees only black and white. And even though it is happy with only black and white, who is actually experiencing the beauty of the world, or who is enjoying the world more extensively ? Of course he, who can see the colours. Thanks. What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Mail: http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Hello Divya Ji, I think getting enough may not always cause lacking in desire. It might cause a "lack of desire for MORE". What if your mother loves you a lot than you expect? Then, you would not require the need of MORE love from your mother, 'more' means more than what she is offering already. Because she is already offering more than you expect, then why would you desire for more again? However it does not make you lack in desire for love. As an example, in this situation if your mother stops loving you, (Or she passes away), then would not you feel that the love is missing? Would not you miss your mother's love? Of course you'd do. Here it means that having enough might create fulfillment and then you desire for "no more than current" but then it does not really vanish the "original need" of it. I think I am clear. based on my experience, (and also common sense) I have learned that it IS positive and NORMAL that people would have an inclination for good things. Thanks, Tanvir. What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - Divya Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:50 PM Re: Thoughts - desire and hunger Tanvirji, You say, "If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill?" But is it not possible that because there is so much fulfillment in a particular aspect of one's life, that is why there is no hunger. Then is this not positive(not having hunger)? Regards, Divya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Tanvirji, It does seem logical, that a person will miss his mother's love in the absence of her physical presence. But...... I feel that if the fulfillment is so complete, then one can feel the same love even in the absence of physical presence and derive the same strength from it as before. Though I guess the fulfillment and realisation has to be "complete" for that. And since food was mentioned in the earlier mail, I'd like to give another example. Its an actual one. One of my friends liked Vanilla Ice-Cream a lot. She ate quite a lot of it in her cousin's wedding. And since then, I havn't seen her touch a Vanilla Ice- Cream. (for the last 14 years)! And when I observed this, I thought to myself that maybe her desire and craving for it has been fulfilled so much, that she doesn't desire it anymore. But I do understand your point too and what you are trying to say. And it is indeed normal for people to have an inclination for the good things. Regards, Divya Tanvir <ultimate wrote: Hello Divya Ji, I think getting enough may not always cause lacking in desire. It might cause a "lack of desire for MORE". What if your mother loves you a lot than you expect? Then, you would not require the need of MORE love from your mother, 'more' means more than what she is offering already. Because she is already offering more than you expect, then why would you desire for more again? However it does not make you lack in desire for love. As an example, in this situation if your mother stops loving you, (Or she passes away), then would not you feel that the love is missing? Would not you miss your mother's love? Of course you'd do. Here it means that having enough might create fulfillment and then you desire for "no more than current" but then it does not really vanish the "original need" of it. I think I am clear. based on my experience, (and also common sense) I have learned that it IS positive and NORMAL that people would have an inclination for good things. Thanks, Tanvir. What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - Divya Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:50 PM Re: Thoughts - desire and hunger Tanvirji, You say, "If you have no hunger, what are you going to fulfill?" But is it not possible that because there is so much fulfillment in a particular aspect of one's life, that is why there is no hunger. Then is this not positive(not having hunger)? Regards, Divya SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE! http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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