Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was asking about my Gotra. Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for my Gotra. Thanks. Regards, JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Dear Mr John, Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how propagation took place and the family with a particular title may be indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra of mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and carried from forefathers krishnan John Smith <tarbuza wrote: How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was asking about my Gotra. Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for my Gotra. Thanks. Regards, JS SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Thanks. Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then Smith. Please correct me. Regards, JS , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear Mr John, > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how propagation took place and the family with a particular title may be indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra of mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and carried from forefathers > krishnan > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > asking about my Gotra. > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > my Gotra. Thanks. > > Regards, > JS > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Surely Your Gotra is Smith tarbuza <tarbuza wrote:Thanks. Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then Smith. Please correct me. Regards, JS , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear Mr John, > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how propagation took place and the family with a particular title may be indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra of mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and carried from forefathers > krishnan > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > asking about my Gotra. > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > my Gotra. Thanks. > > Regards, > JS > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Dear Smith, GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in many families. Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and identified by his name, GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef but protect and worship cows'. But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name as to identify one as the descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous postings on GOTRA on this group. So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human beings. Even today, Hindus who do not know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use the same principle if you want! Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) name for name-sake, while eating beef - do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left to one's own decision! yours humbly KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > Smith. Please correct me. > > Regards, > JS > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Mr John, > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may be > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra of > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > carried from forefathers > > krishnan > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Thanks. With best regards, Ram , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Mr John, > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > be > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra > of > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > > carried from forefathers > > > krishnan > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Thanks. , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Mr John, > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > be > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra > of > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > > carried from forefathers > > > krishnan > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. Any light on this further please Krishnan kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear Smith, GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in many families. Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and identified by his name, GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef but protect and worship cows'. But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name as to identify one as the descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous postings on GOTRA on this group. So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human beings. Even today, Hindus who do not know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use the same principle if you want! Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) name for name-sake, while eating beef - do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left to one's own decision! yours humbly KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > Smith. Please correct me. > > Regards, > JS > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Mr John, > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may be > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra of > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > carried from forefathers > > krishnan > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Krishnan Ji, Kad Ji, David and All, Very interesting topic and I wanted to write what I know about the Gotra, but thought I have found a wonderful site,which descirbed in a great detail about Gotras, so I thought of referring that to you: http://www.bharatavarsha.com/iyer/gotra/gotra.html Hope the above may be some help to some who are interested to know more about Gotram's and Pravara. Regards Raghunatha Rao , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > Any light on this further please > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Dear friend, Arsheya, Pravara, Gotra, Sutra, Shaakhaa are of course the tags for the identification of a follower of Vedic Path. Usually, these are limited to Brahmin class, but also found in many Kshatriya, Vaishya classes. Shudra class is not found to have any such tags, except when a Shudra assumes the profession of Sthapati(sculptor), Lohakaara(Black-smith), SvarnaKaara(Gold-smith) etc, particularly when dealing with temple and god, rather a holy vedic entity. So for a non-Hindu obviously, there is no tag. Yet, there is a provision for these tags for anyone who wants to pursue vedas - become a disciple of a GURU who has original tags or simply a well IDENTIFIED GURU! One who does not know his lineage, can adopt his master's, for the sake of identification and for the completion of Vedic formalities. It is also seen from the past that if father's GOTRA is unknown, mother's(ie maternal) GOTRA is assumed or for the sake of legal matters, a maternal uncle would adopt the boy/girl to give his own GOTRA. So, for simplicity sake, 'Cow-protectors', studying VEDAS and following vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana- Apastambha etc Sutra according to their practice, and the oldest RIK shaakha as their choice, but guided by the preceptor. Though, tags were made a MUST during the strict smriti period, it was not so in Vedic and vedantic society. The need of GOTRAs and the REAL meaning of Gotras are very well described in the story of SATYAKAAMA JAABAALA in Upanishads. It is a beautiful example to show how a gotra-less boy gets his gotra, and becomes a great philosopher! There is an upanishad dedicated to him(Shukla Yajurveda). Interested persons can go through the story of Satyakaama Jaabaala yours humbly, KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > Any light on this further please > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Mr John, > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > be > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra > of > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > > carried from forefathers > > > krishnan > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Dear KAD, Thnaks for: "vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana-Apastambha etc Sutra" :answer to the point.Excellent for anyone who wants to pursue vedas :this obligates gotra. No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? Krishnan kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear friend, Arsheya, Pravara, Gotra, Sutra, Shaakhaa are of course the tags for the identification of a follower of Vedic Path. Usually, these are limited to Brahmin class, but also found in many Kshatriya, Vaishya classes. Shudra class is not found to have any such tags, except when a Shudra assumes the profession of Sthapati(sculptor), Lohakaara(Black-smith), SvarnaKaara(Gold-smith) etc, particularly when dealing with temple and god, rather a holy vedic entity. So for a non-Hindu obviously, there is no tag. Yet, there is a provision for these tags for anyone who wants to pursue vedas - become a disciple of a GURU who has original tags or simply a well IDENTIFIED GURU! One who does not know his lineage, can adopt his master's, for the sake of identification and for the completion of Vedic formalities. It is also seen from the past that if father's GOTRA is unknown, mother's(ie maternal) GOTRA is assumed or for the sake of legal matters, a maternal uncle would adopt the boy/girl to give his own GOTRA. So, for simplicity sake, 'Cow-protectors', studying VEDAS and following vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana- Apastambha etc Sutra according to their practice, and the oldest RIK shaakha as their choice, but guided by the preceptor. Though, tags were made a MUST during the strict smriti period, it was not so in Vedic and vedantic society. The need of GOTRAs and the REAL meaning of Gotras are very well described in the story of SATYAKAAMA JAABAALA in Upanishads. It is a beautiful example to show how a gotra-less boy gets his gotra, and becomes a great philosopher! There is an upanishad dedicated to him(Shukla Yajurveda). Interested persons can go through the story of Satyakaama Jaabaala yours humbly, KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > Any light on this further please > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is then > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > Regards, > > JS > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear Mr John, > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > be > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly Gotra > of > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites and > > carried from forefathers > > > krishnan > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sir, many many thanx for URL reference krishnan Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Krishnan Ji, Kad Ji, David and All, Very interesting topic and I wanted to write what I know about the Gotra, but thought I have found a wonderful site,which descirbed in a great detail about Gotras, so I thought of referring that to you: http://www.bharatavarsha.com/iyer/gotra/gotra.html Hope the above may be some help to some who are interested to know more about Gotram's and Pravara. Regards Raghunatha Rao , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > Any light on this further please > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear Smith, > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > many families. > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > identified by his name, > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > but protect and worship cows'. > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race name > as to identify one as the > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my previous > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > the same principle if you want! > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow protector) > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > to one's own decision! > > yours humbly > KAD SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Visit your group "" on the web. Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Dear Krishnan, Your question: No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? It is not at all necessary to have any TAGS for Vedic persuits, but tags can identify a person; thats all! Tagging namecards to persons, makes the society be organised and grouped in different streams of specialization. GOTRA plays a main role in Genetics and Marriage, Legal and Political Inheritance, Adoption, Religious samskaras etc. So it was the need of the society in those days and did/does not hinder Vedic studies in any case. That is well manifested in the story of sage Satyakaama Jaabaala. yours humbly, KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear KAD, > Thnaks for: "vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana-Apastambha etc Sutra" :answer to the point.Excellent > > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas :this obligates gotra. > No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? > > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear friend, > > Arsheya, Pravara, Gotra, Sutra, Shaakhaa are of course the tags for > the identification of a follower of Vedic Path. > Usually, these are limited to Brahmin class, but also found in many > Kshatriya, Vaishya classes. Shudra class is not found > to have any such tags, except when a Shudra assumes the profession of > Sthapati(sculptor), Lohakaara(Black-smith), > SvarnaKaara(Gold-smith) etc, particularly when dealing with temple > and god, rather a holy vedic entity. So for a non-Hindu > obviously, there is no tag. Yet, there is a provision for these tags > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas - > become a disciple of a GURU who has original tags or simply a well > IDENTIFIED GURU! > > One who does not know his lineage, can adopt his master's, for the > sake of identification and for the completion > of Vedic formalities. It is also seen from the past that if father's > GOTRA is unknown, mother's(ie maternal) GOTRA > is assumed or for the sake of legal matters, a maternal uncle would > adopt the boy/girl to give his own GOTRA. > So, for simplicity sake, 'Cow-protectors', studying VEDAS and > following vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana- > Apastambha etc Sutra according to their practice, > and the oldest RIK shaakha as their choice, but guided by the > preceptor. > > Though, tags were made a MUST during the strict smriti period, it was > not so in Vedic and vedantic society. > The need of GOTRAs and the REAL meaning of Gotras are very well > described in the story of SATYAKAAMA JAABAALA > in Upanishads. It is a beautiful example to show how a gotra-less boy > gets his gotra, and becomes a great > philosopher! There is an upanishad dedicated to him(Shukla Yajurveda). > > Interested persons can go through the story of Satyakaama Jaabaala > > yours humbly, > KAD > > > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to > choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case > of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is > considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > > Any light on this further please > > Krishnan > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear Smith, > > > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > > many families. > > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > > identified by his name, > > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > > but protect and worship cows'. > > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race > name > > as to identify one as the > > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my > previous > > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > > the same principle if you want! > > > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow > protector) > > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > > to one's own decision! > > > > yours humbly > > KAD > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is > then > > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr John, > > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > > be > > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly > Gotra > > of > > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites > and > > > carried from forefathers > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 thanx. krishnan with regards kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear Krishnan, Your question: No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? It is not at all necessary to have any TAGS for Vedic persuits, but tags can identify a person; thats all! Tagging namecards to persons, makes the society be organised and grouped in different streams of specialization. GOTRA plays a main role in Genetics and Marriage, Legal and Political Inheritance, Adoption, Religious samskaras etc. So it was the need of the society in those days and did/does not hinder Vedic studies in any case. That is well manifested in the story of sage Satyakaama Jaabaala. yours humbly, KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear KAD, > Thnaks for: "vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana-Apastambha etc Sutra" :answer to the point.Excellent > > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas :this obligates gotra. > No relaxation for Gotra in case of interest in pursuing vedas? > > Krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear friend, > > Arsheya, Pravara, Gotra, Sutra, Shaakhaa are of course the tags for > the identification of a follower of Vedic Path. > Usually, these are limited to Brahmin class, but also found in many > Kshatriya, Vaishya classes. Shudra class is not found > to have any such tags, except when a Shudra assumes the profession of > Sthapati(sculptor), Lohakaara(Black-smith), > SvarnaKaara(Gold-smith) etc, particularly when dealing with temple > and god, rather a holy vedic entity. So for a non-Hindu > obviously, there is no tag. Yet, there is a provision for these tags > for anyone who wants to pursue vedas - > become a disciple of a GURU who has original tags or simply a well > IDENTIFIED GURU! > > One who does not know his lineage, can adopt his master's, for the > sake of identification and for the completion > of Vedic formalities. It is also seen from the past that if father's > GOTRA is unknown, mother's(ie maternal) GOTRA > is assumed or for the sake of legal matters, a maternal uncle would > adopt the boy/girl to give his own GOTRA. > So, for simplicity sake, 'Cow-protectors', studying VEDAS and > following vedic culture can surely assume the foremost KASHYAPA > gotra, a standard TRI-Arsheya of Kashyapa-Avatsara-Asita, Ashwalayana- > Apastambha etc Sutra according to their practice, > and the oldest RIK shaakha as their choice, but guided by the > preceptor. > > Though, tags were made a MUST during the strict smriti period, it was > not so in Vedic and vedantic society. > The need of GOTRAs and the REAL meaning of Gotras are very well > described in the story of SATYAKAAMA JAABAALA > in Upanishads. It is a beautiful example to show how a gotra-less boy > gets his gotra, and becomes a great > philosopher! There is an upanishad dedicated to him(Shukla Yajurveda). > > Interested persons can go through the story of Satyakaama Jaabaala > > yours humbly, > KAD > > > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Very nicely elaborated and providing an option"it is better to > choose KASHYAPA" GOTRA I feel for temple poojas is okay but in case > of Gayatri japa/Sandhya Vandanam,PRAVARA becomes a difficult which is > considered must for all those who underwent upnayanam after 12 yrs. > > Any light on this further please > > Krishnan > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear Smith, > > > > GOTRA is not the SURNAME, but now GOTRA just remains as surname in > > many families. > > Since Gotra was the group of 'cow protectors' headed by a sage, and > > identified by his name, > > GOTRA is limited to HINDUISM or to the people 'who do not eat beef > > but protect and worship cows'. > > But now, Gotra just remains as the surname or the ancestral-race > name > > as to identify one as the > > descendant of such and such a sage.You can also refer to my > previous > > postings on GOTRA on this group. > > > > So, if at all, you desire to identify your GOTRA, it is better to > > choose KASHYAPA GOTRA, since > > the Hinduism records sage KASHYAPA as the foremost father of human > > beings. Even today, Hindus who do not > > know their GOTRA choose Kashyapa Gotra. But there are some persons, > > who choose SHIVA gotra or VISHNU gotra > > ie the name of GOD himself as the foremost father! You can also use > > the same principle if you want! > > > > Though I do not intend to offend anyone, adding a GOTRA(cow > protector) > > name for name-sake, while eating beef - > > do contradict each other and so bear no meaning! Keeping this in > > mind, whether to use a gotra or not, is left > > to one's own decision! > > > > yours humbly > > KAD > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Surely Your Gotra is Smith > > > > > > tarbuza <tarbuza> wrote:Thanks. > > > > > > Does that mean Gotra is my surname? For instance, my Gotra is > then > > > Smith. Please correct me. > > > > > > Regards, > > > JS > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr John, > > > > Gotra basically indicates clan and can also indicate how > > > propagation took place and the family with a particular title may > > be > > > indicating origin/place/profession has descended.accordingly > Gotra > > of > > > mittal,Goel and Bhardwaja rishi,vashist and koundinya rishi have > > > been identified.in temples when any worship is made,the priest > > > enquires name.nakshtra and gotra and makes sankalpa. > > > > Gotra is a very important indication for all religious rites > and > > > carried from forefathers > > > > krishnan > > > > > > > > John Smith <tarbuza> wrote: > > > > How to know one's Gotra? Is this Chandra Rashi > > > > Nakshatra Pada Anuradha ~ 3 ? I see this in my > > > > horoscope. I went for Puja in a temple and preist was > > > > asking about my Gotra. > > > > > > > > Please advise where should I look in my horoscope for > > > > my Gotra. Thanks. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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