Vattem Krishnan ji - About Guru

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Vattem Krishnan ji,

 

<<<In my point of view, if we forget Ketu is a chaya graha and

and jupiter as subha graha(not limited to materialism) that both

 

are the greatest gurus.>>>

 

Very possibly true. But, I would rate Ketu a notch above Guru.

 

<<<Some how I feel that jupiter is Deva Guru

because of his qualities(to do good perenially) he possessed and

 

also endowed qualities to find ways to solve "all problems".>>>

 

Guru has some excellent qualities, but one also finds problems

with him. For instance, the Mahabharata talks about his jealous

hatred for his younger brother, whom he treated very cruelly.

So, to some extent, Guru is associated with ahamkaram, which

stands in the way of Moksha.

 

Ketu, on the other hand, thanks to the divine touch of the

Sudarshana Chakra, is interested in nothing on the materialistic

plane.

 

<<<I think solving all problems is to work for moksha

ceaselessly

through our karmas and reforming them continuously without

bringing

in self into picture.one can attain moksha by doing good.>>>

 

You have a point. But, some opine that we are held down on Bhu

Loka by iron and gold handcuffs, representing the bad and the

good karmas respectively. One gets Moksha by getting rid of all

karmas, both good and bad. If you have very little bad karma and

a lot of good karma, you may be born as a king. But, while

ruling, you comit karmas good and bad and have to be born again

to experience them. Thus, the cycle goes on.

 

God's grace is essential for breaking out of this circle. Of

course, this comes through Ketu and Sani and Guru!

 

 

~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

~~~~~~~

 

 

 

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Dear Mr Bala ji,

 

In fact(we) as people related/involved in/ to the field of Astrology, make a big

point about Dharma and this leading element is the contribution of all the

palnets.

In fact sometimes may be(in ecstacy/disgust?)(we) say that there is nothing like

good and bad palnets and change the plane to houses.In the process we find

mixing up of the characterstics.There is no doubt about Guru not harming/not

doing bad and definetely finds

"one also finds problems with him."

May be in the context of Dharma it is the Guru that shows the path,Sanithrough

efforts and persistence carries and finally Ketu(purifies) and lodges us into

the most final stage>If at all it is appropriate to amke any order of roles of

these palnets.The involvement of Ketu is at the highest order after initiation

through Guru" this comes through Ketu and Sani and Guru!

 

As far the aspiration for moksha is concerned :the issue is not so simplified to

say:

One gets Moksha by getting rid of all karmas, both good and bad.

In this connection I quote my father who died where recently and very abruptly

believed in what exactly you mentioned.

The manner he ended his life was so peaceful i feel difficult to get

convinced.he died at the age of 84+ very peacefully with no disease and medicine

in the entire life.

May be that way he must have got moksha?

Iam not sure of this approach.Once we are borne karma good or bad is inevitable

and the judgement is beyond us.we hope for good and live for good and let the

aspirations be good to attain moksha

krishnan

Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote:

Vattem Krishnan ji,

 

<<<In my point of view, if we forget Ketu is a chaya graha and

and jupiter as subha graha(not limited to materialism) that both

 

are the greatest gurus.>>>

 

Very possibly true. But, I would rate Ketu a notch above Guru.

 

<<<Some how I feel that jupiter is Deva Guru

because of his qualities(to do good perenially) he possessed and

 

also endowed qualities to find ways to solve "all problems".>>>

 

Guru has some excellent qualities, but one also finds problems

with him. For instance, the Mahabharata talks about his jealous

hatred for his younger brother, whom he treated very cruelly.

So, to some extent, Guru is associated with ahamkaram, which

stands in the way of Moksha.

 

Ketu, on the other hand, thanks to the divine touch of the

Sudarshana Chakra, is interested in nothing on the materialistic

plane.

 

<<<I think solving all problems is to work for moksha

ceaselessly

through our karmas and reforming them continuously without

bringing

in self into picture.one can attain moksha by doing good.>>>

 

You have a point. But, some opine that we are held down on Bhu

Loka by iron and gold handcuffs, representing the bad and the

good karmas respectively. One gets Moksha by getting rid of all

karmas, both good and bad. If you have very little bad karma and

a lot of good karma, you may be born as a king. But, while

ruling, you comit karmas good and bad and have to be born again

to experience them. Thus, the cycle goes on.

 

God's grace is essential for breaking out of this circle. Of

course, this comes through Ketu and Sani and Guru!

 

 

~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm

Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs

Editor, The Partial Art of Detection

~~~~~~~

 

 

 

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