To Arjun Pandit

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Dear Arjun,

 

Thanks for understanding my words. Exactly as you say, any vedic

process - may not be only rituals - were started for a great cause,

which we really are unaware of. All we debate on is just on our

perception of the 'existing form' of Vedic practice we see, hear,

learn and understand. When we are at the stage of just

anticipating 'what they were', it is incorrect to brand them as

orthodox or 'just written in books' or useless.

 

yours

KAD

 

 

 

, arjun pandit

<panditarjun2004> wrote:

> Dear KADji

> from the post, one can understand that u r well-read of our

puranas. emphasising the last sentence you wrote, since kali yuga

is different from its previous three predecessors, and dharam is

ruling on one pada instead of 4 in satya yuga, for this yuga, those

who protect the dharma are protected and blessed by god. in recent

posts, few members had observed their scepticism in rituals. arya

samaj has shown with evidence how an entire family in bhopal was

saved in the dreaded gasleak decades ago only because of their daily

havan which did not allow killer gases to land onto them and their

entire family was saved. even lord saibaba (a muslim) performed

daily havan and his divine miracles need no explanation. so my only

request to those who cannot follow rituals or believe in rituals is

not to brand them as orthodox or useless.

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote:

> Dear John,

>

> As I already wrote in my other post, IVF or fertilization external

to

> womb is not a

> new concept to Vedic culture. There are many examples available in

> Vedic history like:

>

> 1.Sage Agastya and Sage VasiShTha - were born in a water-pitcher

when

> Mitra and Varuna

> placed their seeds in it wishing to get Urvashi, the nymph.

> 2.Acharya Drona - was born in a bowl(=droNa) when the semen of

> Maharshi Bharadwaja leaked into

> it on seeing a nymph named Ghritachi.

> 3.ShaNmukha - son of Shiva was born due to release of REATS of

Shiva

> into space, carried

> by Agni to six star-women of Krittika(Pleidas).

> 4.Matsya Hanuman - was born when a drop of semen from Hanuman

> crossing the Indian Ocean fell into

> the mouth of a Matasya Kanya - a mermaid/fish below.

> ....there are so many other examples too...the list continues.....

>

> The Kauravas of Mahabharata were born by CLONING technique, which

was

> already known!

> So, all these were considered LEGAL births and Shastra or sages

> accepted them, for they

> were needed for a great cause. All those births resulted in great

> persons; becasue they were planned so!

>

> Can we guarantee now? Surely, we do not have that capacity to

judge;

> and the YUGA is different!

>

> yours humbly

> KAD

>

>

>

> , "John" <jr_esq>

wrote:

> > To all members:

> >

> > I wonder what the sages would say about using invitro

fertization

> > technology to have a baby in this present time. Should this

> > technology be encouraged? Or, do the shastras have any

prohibition

> > against such technology?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "kadrudra"

<kadrudra>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > May look funny, but the caerasean births are AYONI JANMA and

> astro-

> > > classical texts

> > > deal with great details. Also there are astro-dictum available

> for

> > > judging FORCED birth.

> > > There are also great details in astro-classical texts

> > > describing 'shastra ghaata' to

> > > the mother while a native is born ie use of a weapon at birth.

> > > Besides, there is a wonderful DEFINITION of 'birth' according

> sages:

> > >

> > > kritevAdhAnalagnam tu tretAyAm puMsavanam(jalodayam) tathA |

> > > dvApare shIrshodayam syAt kalau bhUpatanam smr.tam ||

> > >

> > > which means:

> > > The Lagna defining the time of birth shall correspond to

> conception

> > > in KritaYuga,

> > > pumsavana process(some say jalodaya = burst of water bag

around

> the

> > > baby) in TretaYuga,

> > > the rise of HEAD(or body in general) of the baby at birth in

> > > DvaparaYuga and

> > > the GROUND-TOUCH of the baby in KaliYuga ie now.

> > > How genius were they to anticipate techno advances!

> > >

> > > So, even now, in kaliyuga, in which caesarean birth are

becoming

> > more

> > > in number, still

> > > the dictum is clear and holds good! Whether the birth is

natural

> > (even

> > > if it is unnatural or supernatural)

> > > a birth is a BIRTH now only at the ground-touch moment of the

> baby,

> > > astrologically!

> > > Ground here is EARTHY existence and is not to be confused with

> real

> > > sand or land touching the baby.

> > >

> > > Hope I am clear!

> > > yours

> > > KAD

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "ashwin_062k"

> > > <ashwin_062k> wrote:

> > > > Dear Gurujans !!

> > > >

> > > > In the present day moden world with technological

advancement,

> > > > cesearian cases have become a regular feature for birth of a

> > > child. I

> > > > have come across few cases where parents even decide the

date

> and

> > > time

> > > > in which the operation to be undertaken.

> > > >

> > > > These things rises a question in my mind about the

correctness

> of

> > > > predictions by any astrologer based on chart to that of the

> fate

> > of

> > > the

> > > > soul which is pre-defined by HIM.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sridhar

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