saturn as 11th and 12th lord for pisces ascendants

[Guest guest]

Hi members,

 

for pisces ascendants if saturn is strong, eg if he is in virgo house

of friend mercury and place where he gets dig bala now he is lord of a

goood 11th house and a malefic 12th house, which is contrasting inst

it, 11th is the house of gains and 12th the house of loss so if saturn

becomes strong wht would the general tendencies be? how can one gain

and loss simultaneously?

 

Thanks.

Raghu

University of california.

Los Angeles.

90007

[Guest guest]

Raghu,

 

Saturn would be good in both houses. Saturn in the 11th (unearned

income gain) would mean he will do well in foreign (12th house matter)

sources of income.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

, "Raghu" <raghu_tillu>

wrote:

> Hi members,

>

> for pisces ascendants if saturn is strong, eg if he is in virgo house

> of friend mercury and place where he gets dig bala now he is lord of a

> goood 11th house and a malefic 12th house, which is contrasting inst

> it, 11th is the house of gains and 12th the house of loss so if saturn

> becomes strong wht would the general tendencies be? how can one gain

> and loss simultaneously?

>

> Thanks.

> Raghu

> University of california.

> Los Angeles.

> 90007

[Guest guest]

Dear Raghu,

 

John's analysis is correct.

 

Few additions:-

 

(1) Saturn in this case in 7H is not conducive for marital happiness

and partnership business-though in a friendly sign

 

(2) Transit of natural malefic planet like Rahu over Pisces

will offer bad result pertaining to health

 

 

with best wishes,

 

Mandakini

 

, "John" <jr_esq> wrote:

> Raghu,

>

> Saturn would be good in both houses. Saturn in the 11th (unearned

> income gain) would mean he will do well in foreign (12th house

matter)

> sources of income.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

> , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu>

> wrote:

> > Hi members,

> >

> > for pisces ascendants if saturn is strong, eg if he is in virgo

house

> > of friend mercury and place where he gets dig bala now he is lord

of a

> > goood 11th house and a malefic 12th house, which is contrasting

inst

> > it, 11th is the house of gains and 12th the house of loss so if

saturn

> > becomes strong wht would the general tendencies be? how can one

gain

> > and loss simultaneously?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Raghu

> > University of california.

> > Los Angeles.

> > 90007

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

but Ms Preventina I guess some member had raised the topic that the

aspect of saturn is much more malefic than his being tenant of any

house, now his aspect would be on the lagna which would mean frail

health etc rite, also even though saturn is a natural malefic he is

not fucntional malefic for pisc ascendant is he? even assuming he is

now had mars been in 7th house he is yogakarak for pisc asc but then

he is aslo natural malefic would that mean bad marital life, wht abt

venus he is a benefic but first rate malefic for pisc asc

 

the list would then mean either saturn,mars,venus,rahu,ketu,sun's

presence in 7th for pisc ascendetn is bad for marital life, I hope I

have nto confused you and myself

 

Raghu

University of california

Los Angeles.CA 90007

 

 

, "preventina"

<preventina> wrote:

> Dear Raghu,

>

> John's analysis is correct.

>

> Few additions:-

>

> (1) Saturn in this case in 7H is not conducive for marital happiness

> and partnership business-though in a friendly sign

>

> (2) Transit of natural malefic planet like Rahu over Pisces

> will offer bad result pertaining to health

>

>

> with best wishes,

>

> Mandakini

>

> , "John" <jr_esq> wrote:

> > Raghu,

> >

> > Saturn would be good in both houses. Saturn in the 11th (unearned

> > income gain) would mean he will do well in foreign (12th house

> matter)

> > sources of income.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi members,

> > >

> > > for pisces ascendants if saturn is strong, eg if he is in virgo

> house

> > > of friend mercury and place where he gets dig bala now he is lord

> of a

> > > goood 11th house and a malefic 12th house, which is contrasting

> inst

> > > it, 11th is the house of gains and 12th the house of loss so if

> saturn

> > > becomes strong wht would the general tendencies be? how can one

> gain

> > > and loss simultaneously?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > Raghu

> > > University of california.

> > > Los Angeles.

> > > 90007

[Guest guest]

Dear members

 

How about the saturn placed in Mesh Rashi(deb) as

atmakaraka for Pisces ascendent, what will be the

effect of 11ths ,12th house and 2nd house related

matters for the native. The native is born on Uttar

Bhadrapada (Star of Satern) nakshatra.

 

Please suggest.

 

regards,

 

--- Raghu <raghu_tillu wrote:

 

> Hi,

>

> but Ms Preventina I guess some member had raised the

> topic that the

> aspect of saturn is much more malefic than his being

> tenant of any

> house, now his aspect would be on the lagna which

> would mean frail

> health etc rite, also even though saturn is a

> natural malefic he is

> not fucntional malefic for pisc ascendant is he?

> even assuming he is

> now had mars been in 7th house he is yogakarak for

> pisc asc but then

> he is aslo natural malefic would that mean bad

> marital life, wht abt

> venus he is a benefic but first rate malefic for

> pisc asc

>

> the list would then mean either

> saturn,mars,venus,rahu,ketu,sun's

> presence in 7th for pisc ascendetn is bad for

> marital life, I hope I

> have nto confused you and myself

>

> Raghu

> University of california

> Los Angeles.CA 90007

>

>

> ,

> "preventina"

> <preventina> wrote:

> > Dear Raghu,

> >

> > John's analysis is correct.

> >

> > Few additions:-

> >

> > (1) Saturn in this case in 7H is not conducive

> for marital happiness

> > and partnership business-though in a friendly sign

> >

> > (2) Transit of natural malefic planet like Rahu

> over Pisces

> > will offer bad result pertaining to health

> >

> >

> > with best wishes,

> >

> > Mandakini

> >

> > , "John"

> <jr_esq> wrote:

> > > Raghu,

> > >

> > > Saturn would be good in both houses. Saturn in

> the 11th (unearned

> > > income gain) would mean he will do well in

> foreign (12th house

> > matter)

> > > sources of income.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > John R.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Raghu"

> <raghu_tillu>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi members,

> > > >

> > > > for pisces ascendants if saturn is strong, eg

> if he is in virgo

> > house

> > > > of friend mercury and place where he gets dig

> bala now he is lord

> > of a

> > > > goood 11th house and a malefic 12th house,

> which is contrasting

> > inst

> > > > it, 11th is the house of gains and 12th the

> house of loss so if

> > saturn

> > > > becomes strong wht would the general

> tendencies be? how can one

> > gain

> > > > and loss simultaneously?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > Raghu

> > > > University of california.

> > > > Los Angeles.

> > > > 90007

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Raghu,

 

 

You have good grasp over the subject.

I m using uppercase for convenience.

 

, "Raghu" <raghu_tillu>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> but Ms Preventina I guess some member had raised the topic that the

> aspect of saturn is much more malefic than his being tenant of any

> house, now his aspect would be on the lagna which would mean frail

> health etc rite,

HERE SATURN IS IN LAGNA -IN THE HOUSE OF A NATURAL BENEFIC PLANET.

AS PER JATAKA DESA MARGA, SARVARTHA CHINTA MANI ETC.

NATURAL/FUNCTIONAL MALEFICS IF PLACED IN THE SIGNS/VARGAS OF

NATURAL/FUNCTIONAL BENEFICS WILL TURN INTO BENEFICS.

 

A BENEFIC HOUSE- SO ITS ASPECT WILL TURN BENEFICIAL-

IT WILL BE STILL MORE BENEFICIAL

IF ITS SIGN DISPOSITOR JUPITER

IS PLACE IN A TRINE OR ANGLE WITH SOME STRENGTH.

 

 

also even though saturn is a natural malefic he is

> not fucntional malefic for pisc ascendant is he?

HIS FUNCTIONAL MALEFIC NATURE HAS BEEN NEUTRALISED BY PLACED IN LAGNA

AND ASPECTED BY 9TH LORD MARS,

 

IF THIS SATURN IS IN A NUMBER OF VARGA OF NATURAL BENEFIC PLANETS

THEN ITS NATURAL MALEFICIENCE MAY ALSO BE GET MODIFIED.

 

even assuming he is

> now had mars been in 7th house he is yogakarak for pisc asc but then

> he is aslo natural malefic would that mean bad marital life, wht abt

> venus he is a benefic but first rate malefic for pisc asc

WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT-MAY BE SOME WHAT BAD FOR LAGNA- OR HEALTH

BUT 8TH HOUSE PLACEMENT AND OWNERSHIP OF MERCURY, VENUS ARE

EXCELLENT FOR MARRIED LIFE AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

 

I HAVE SEEN MERCURY/VENUS PLACED IN 7TH AND 10TH HOUSE AND BEING THE

FUNCTIONAL RULER OF THE 8TH HOUSE-

IN A NUMBER OF CHARTS- OF IAS OFFICERS, MINISTERS, ENGINEERS

AT THE SAME TIME GIVING AN EXCELLENT MARITAL HAPPINESS.

 

>

> the list would then mean either saturn,mars,venus,rahu,ketu,sun's

> presence in 7th for pisc ascendetn is bad for marital life, I hope I

> have nto confused you and myself

WE SHOULD TAKE A WHOLISTIC VIEW OF THE CHART. NATURAL MALEFICS MIGHT

SOME TIME RETAIN A TRACE OF THEIR NEGATIVE QUALITIES CREATING A

LITTLE BIT OF TENSION.

 

FOR EXAMPLE IN A LIBRA LAGNA CHART, SATURN IN CAPRICORN MAY CAUSE A

MINOR HEALTH PROBLEM TO THE MOTHER OF THE NATIVE.

 

 

is it your own chart !

 

 

With best wishes and regards,

 

Mandakini

 

> Raghu

> University of california

> Los Angeles.CA 90007

>

>

> , "preventina"

> <preventina> wrote:

> > Dear Raghu,

> >

> > John's analysis is correct.

> >

> > Few additions:-

> >

> > (1) Saturn in this case in 7H is not conducive for marital

happiness

> > and partnership business-though in a friendly sign

> >

> > (2) Transit of natural malefic planet like Rahu over Pisces

> > will offer bad result pertaining to health

> >

> >

> > with best wishes,

> >

> > Mandakini

[vellothaditya]

8th house being a malefic house in itself and saturn in placed in libra in the eigth house along with venus in the same house where venus is in mooltrikon and saturn is exalted, but at the same time saturn is the lord of the 11th and the 12th house what should be the result expected ?