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Dear Members,

I agree wih Pt Arjun that we need to respect seniors in our filed irrespective of their short commings and for whatever reasons we disagree lets make it least personal and make any comment just based on the merrit of the chart discussed our views if we have any on them.

for whaever reasons some r gifted, to get some gpd gurus or mentos to shape them, some even more to get well esrablised seniors to share a public platform and launch themselves, or be launched by seniors.

 

as B V RAMAN did to many say like Justice Kappor KN Rao of recent decades. they have done great works on their own after that initial pushc Raman gave them.

 

It is said that KN Rao later did use such a platform to bellitle, ridicule, humilate Raman himself after he achieved some standing of his own. has more books, seminar,s workshops, R&D teams etc BUT IF WE CONSIDER THAT WRONG we must not compy him either, so lets move on his wors r good, lets take it as it is, like we have done with other writer astrologer thinkers, researchers etc.

 

LETS MOVE ON, no personal limits must hold us, the vaastnes of the sucbject needs all of us to make it stronger, greater and biger, egos do the opposite.

 

PRASHANT

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:    dear friend sharma ji

please do not take our mails personally.  we were only airing our

views that one astrologer shall not criticse another astrologer

while disagreeing with his predictions.

in future we can avoid such threads on those astrologers like

respected KNRao who are not members of this forum since they could

not respond to what we write in these groups.

with best wishes

arjun

, shashi shekhar sharma

<polite_astro> wrote:

>

>                                                        .HARE RAM.

>        Pandit Arjun jee,

>                               If to say truth is the meant of bad

karma and to stand against the

>                               unduly criticism is meant to gain

name and fame overnight through

>                               such the cheap tactics.Therefore i

leave it to kind God who knows

>                               better who is on right path.I did my

duty quite truly and sincerely.

>   

>                               Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:

>   dear friends

>

> last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not a

> healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any extent

for

> acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish to show

> that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and

applause.

>

> character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a

great

> service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my learnt

> friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

> against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is sending the

> mail twice in all groups.

>

> earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails

received

> in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in all

> groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics are

> generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame overnight.

>

> one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the

divine

> science he mastered.

>

> hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in doing

so,

> they themselves can become famous.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> pandit arjun

>

> , Tatvamasi

> wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Sharma,

> >

> > It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in

> another group in JR.

> > You do not even know that in what context this post was made by

> me .

> > My intention was that he should have refused to participate in

> TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> > Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man

> and I know nothing

> > .

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> > shashi shekhar sharma

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > shashi shekhar sharma

> wrote: Fri, 12 May

> 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> > shashi shekhar sharma

>

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction...

> CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> > vedic astrology

> >

> > .HARE RAM.

> > Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> > I am sorry but it is baseless

> and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> > approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

> he say that day?

> > It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

> said day.Plz try

> > to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

> has Mrityu Yog

> > these days" but he never said about time and date surely

> and he opposed

> > strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

> (learned person) must

> > give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

> natural calamities

> > but also all the astrologers should make a forum

> separately for the same

> > purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

> country.

> > Please do not take it

> otherwise.One should always do true

> > criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

> with me.Please do

> > forgive me if you find some mistake.

> >

> > With Regards

> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> >

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> > Dear Arjun Ji,

> > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

> > A bit curious.

> >

> > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing

the

> astrologer's chart.

> > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and

may

> die at predicted time.

> >

> > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no

> answer to this question.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity

> seeker IMHO.

> >

> >

> > panditarjun2004

> > wrote:

> > dear tatvam ji

> >

> > since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

> > death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

> >

> > but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his

> own

> > death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so

much

> so

> > that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

> curious

> > tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for

getting

> > their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several

TV

> > channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> > predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

> >

> > in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

> > astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer

finds

> a

> > chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

> > predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

> > the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death

and

> > then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

> >

> > once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

> > tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

> >

> > 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

> > saturn.

> > 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> > 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

> hindered

> > or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> > 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do

> these

> > poojas for you.

> >

> > also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga

karta

> > and every astrologer to predict general things for the country

> like:

> >

> > 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of

ex

> > prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> > 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> > 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> > 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> > 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> > 6. earthquakes rock the country

> > 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

> himself

> > as kalki avataar)

> > 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

> >

> > any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

> > without saying.

> >

> > my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

> > general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals

> who

> > are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they

> are

> > not going to help the native.

> >

> > as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall

predict

> a

> > chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall

be

> > displayed by all matured astrologers.

> >

> > till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> > thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or

tsunami.

> > they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

> > incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

> > tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

> > only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

> > predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th

of

> a

> > month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

> >

> > all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

> > (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> > negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to

> help

> > the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> > >

> > > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> > >

> > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

> > astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think)

and

> > Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing

his

> > chart that he will die.

> > > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel

wasted

> > a whole day cov

> > ering this non event.

> > > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN

VEDIC

> > ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> > >

> > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

> > Bhawan seminar

> > > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr.

> Pramod

> > > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

> > his analysis

> > > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

> > discussion in

> > > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

> > The

> > > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

> > knowledge

> > > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

> > status

> > > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

> sharing

> > of

> > > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this

vedic

> > sciences,

> > > further some of them even practise it for their daily

sustenance.

> > >

> > > with regards,

> > > sreeram srinivas

> > > sreeram64@

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> > jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT

prediction

> on

> > Pramod

> > > Mahajan/Doubts

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> > >

> > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly

and

> > with

> > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the

astrologer

> > who

> > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by

eminent

> > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> > checking

> > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't

go

> > > wrong).

> > >

> > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Jyothi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

> > >

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > .HARE RAM.

> > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > > > Saadar Charan

> > > Sparsha!

> > > >

> > > > He is my second

> > Guru

> > > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> > before

> > > while i am resident

> > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > > knowledge so a have some

> > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> > keep

> > > before him.I hope kind

> > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> > > reason according to

> > > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > > predict that this native had a

> > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> > house.

> > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> > 8th

> > > lord sitted in own house,

> > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> > 7th

> > > lord is in own sign.

> > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> > brother?

> > > Karak of 3rd house

> > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > > house is sitted with Lagan

> > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> > Sh.

> > > Rao jee through you if

> > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> > me.

> > > >

> > > > With Due Regards

> > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > > Mobile-09818310075

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Archives: " on the web.

   

 

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dear prashant ji

 

as you rightly advised, all astrologers must learn to live in peaceful

mutual coexistence and respect one another instead of viewing all

other astrologers (other than himself) as a competitor and try to CUT

others to size so that he can increase the size of himself.  by

cutting others, one's own image does not increase. 

 

without taking any name, all these personal name worshipping and

sycophancy arranging self proclaimed great astro gurus often

publicise in the groups and media to project as if they are the

inventors of astrology or as if they have cleaned the dust on this old

and unused astrology or they are the only reaserchers in the world who

found how to use astrology or their school is the only custodian or

mouthpiece of astrology similar to VHP self appointing themselves as

the voice of hindus.  like ramdevji repeats in all his preachings,

these divine vedic shastras have come freely from the sages and we can

only read, learn and teach but NOT OWN IT.  with rampant

commercialisation of astrology going unabated, i predict the day is

not far when few TECHNIQUES or WAYS of prediction would be patented

and copyright protected which only their licenced users (buyers of

thier system) can use.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> I agree wih Pt Arjun that we need to respect seniors in our filed

irrespective of their short commings and for whatever reasons we

disagree lets make it least personal and make any comment just based

on the merrit of the chart discussed our views if we have any on them.

> for whaever reasons some r gifted, to get some gpd gurus or mentos

to shape them, some even more to get well esrablised seniors to share

a public platform and launch themselves, or be launched by seniors.

>

> as B V RAMAN did to many say like Justice Kappor KN Rao of recent

decades. they have done great works on their own after that initial

pushc Raman gave them.

>

> It is said that KN Rao later did use such a platform to bellitle,

ridicule, humilate Raman himself after he achieved some standing of

his own. has more books, seminar,s workshops, R&D teams etc BUT IF WE

CONSIDER THAT WRONG we must not compy him either, so lets move on his

wors r good, lets take it as it is, like we have done with other

writer astrologer thinkers, researchers etc.

>

> LETS MOVE ON, no personal limits must hold us, the vaastnes of the

sucbject needs all of us to make it stronger, greater and biger, egos

do the opposite.

>

> PRASHANT

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote:    dear friend sharma ji

> 

>  please do not take our mails personally.  we were only airing our

>  views that one astrologer shall not criticse another astrologer

>  while disagreeing with his predictions.

> 

>  in future we can avoid such threads on those astrologers like

>  respected KNRao who are not members of this forum since they could

>  not respond to what we write in these groups.

> 

>  with best wishes

>  arjun

> 

>  , shashi shekhar sharma

>  <polite_astro@> wrote:

>  >

>  >                                                        .HARE RAM.

>  >        Pandit Arjun jee,

>  >                               If to say truth is the meant of bad

>  karma and to stand against the

>  >                               unduly criticism is meant to gain

>  name and fame overnight through

>  >                               such the cheap tactics.Therefore i

>  leave it to kind God who knows

>  >                               better who is on right path.I did my

>  duty quite truly and sincerely.

>  >   

>  >                               Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>  >

>  > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

>  >   dear friends

>  >

>  > last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not a

>  > healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any extent

>  for

>  > acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish to show

>  > that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and

>  applause.

>  >

>  > character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a

>  great

>  > service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my learnt

>  > friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

>  > against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is sending the

>  > mail twice in all groups.

>  >

>  > earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails

>  received

>  > in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in all

>  > groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics are

>  > generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame overnight.

>  >

>  > one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the

>  divine

>  > science he mastered.

>  >

>  > hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in doing

>  so,

>  > they themselves can become famous.

>  >

>  > with best wishes and regards

>  > pandit arjun

>  >

>  > , Tatvamasi

>  > wrote:

>  > >

>  > > Mr. Sharma,

>  > >

>  > > It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in

>  > another group in JR.

>  > > You do not even know that in what context this post was made by

>  > me .

>  > > My intention was that he should have refused to participate in

>  > TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

>  > > Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man

>  > and I know nothing

>  > > .

>  > > Tatvam-Asi

>  > >

>  > >

>  > >

>  > > shashi shekhar sharma

>  > wrote:

>  > >

>  > >

>  > > shashi shekhar sharma

>  > wrote: Fri, 12 May

>  > 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

>  > > shashi shekhar sharma

>  >

>  > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction...

>  > CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

>  > > vedic astrology

>  > >

>  > > .HARE RAM.

>  > > Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

>  > > I am sorry but it is baseless

>  > and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

>  > > approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

>  > he say that day?

>  > > It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

>  > said day.Plz try

>  > > to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

>  > has Mrityu Yog

>  > > these days" but he never said about time and date surely

>  > and he opposed

>  > > strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

>  > (learned person) must

>  > > give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

>  > natural calamities

>  > > but also all the astrologers should make a forum

>  > separately for the same

>  > > purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

>  > country.

>  > > Please do not take it

>  > otherwise.One should always do true

>  > > criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

>  > with me.Please do

>  > > forgive me if you find some mistake.

>  > >

>  > > With Regards

>  > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>  > >

>  > >

>  > > Tatvam-Asi wrote:

>  > > Dear Arjun Ji,

>  > > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

>  > > A bit curious.

>  > >

>  > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing

>  the

>  > astrologer's chart.

>  > > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and

>  may

>  > die at predicted time.

>  > >

>  > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no

>  > answer to this question.

>  > >

>  > > Tatvam-Asi

>  > >

>  > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity

>  > seeker IMHO.

>  > >

>  > >

>  > > panditarjun2004

>  > > wrote:

>  > > dear tatvam ji

>  > >

>  > > since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

>  > > death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

>  > >

>  > > but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his

>  > own

>  > > death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so

>  much

>  > so

>  > > that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

>  > curious

>  > > tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for

>  getting

>  > > their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several

>  TV

>  > > channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

>  > > predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

>  > >

>  > > in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

>  > > astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer

>  finds

>  > a

>  > > chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

>  > > predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

>  > > the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death

>  and

>  > > then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma..

>  > >

>  > > once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

>  > > tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

>  > >

>  > > 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

>  > > saturn.

>  > > 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

>  > > 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

>  > hindered

>  > > or someone has done blackmagic on you.

>  > > 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do

>  > these

>  > > poojas for you.

>  > >

>  > > also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga

>  karta

>  > > and every astrologer to predict general things for the country

>  > like:

>  > >

>  > > 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of

>  ex

>  > > prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

>  > > 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

>  > > 3. heat waves prevails across the country

>  > > 4. air accidents would claim lives.

>  > > 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

>  > > 6. earthquakes rock the country

>  > > 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

>  > himself

>  > > as kalki avataar)

>  > > 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

>  > >

>  > > any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

>  > > without saying.

>  > >

>  > > my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

>  > > general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals

>  > who

>  > > are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they

>  > are

>  > > not going to help the native.

>  > >

>  > > as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall

>  predict

>  > a

>  > > chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall

>  be

>  > > displayed by all matured astrologers.

>  > >

>  > > till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

>  > > thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or

>  tsunami.

>  > > they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

>  > > incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

>  > > tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

>  > > only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

>  > > predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th

>  of

>  > a

>  > > month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

>  > >

>  > > all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

>  > > (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

>  > > negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to

>  > help

>  > > the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

>  > >

>  > > with best wishes

>  > > pandit arjun

>  > >

>  > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

>  > > wrote:

>  > > >

>  > > > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

>  > > >

>  > > > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

>  > > >

>  > > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

>  > > astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think)

>  and

>  > > Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing

>  his

>  > > chart that he will die.

>  > > > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel

>  wasted

>  > > a whole day cov

>  > > ering this non event.

>  > > > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN

>  VEDIC

>  > > ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

>  > > >

>  > > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

>  > > >

>  > > > Tatvam-Asi

>  > > >

>  > > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

>  > > > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

>  > > Bhawan seminar

>  > > > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr.

>  > Pramod

>  > > > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

>  > > his analysis

>  > > > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

>  > > discussion in

>  > > > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

>  > > The

>  > > > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

>  > > knowledge

>  > > > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

>  > > status

>  > > > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

>  > sharing

>  > > of

>  > > > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this

>  vedic

>  > > sciences,

>  > > > further some of them even practise it for their daily

>  sustenance.

>  > > >

>  > > > with regards,

>  > > > sreeram srinivas

>  > > > sreeram64@

>  > > >

>  > > > _____

>  > > >

>  > > > vedic astrology

>  > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

>  > > jyothi_b_lakshmi

>  > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

>  > > > vedic astrology

>  > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT

>  prediction

>  > on

>  > > Pramod

>  > > > Mahajan/Doubts

>  > > >

>  > > >

>  > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

>  > > >

>  > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

>  > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly

>  and

>  > > with

>  > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the

>  astrologer

>  > > who

>  > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by

>  eminent

>  > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

>  > > checking

>  > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't

>  go

>  > > > wrong).

>  > > >

>  > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

>  > > >

>  > > >

>  > > > Regards,

>  > > > Jyothi

>  > > >

>  > > >

>  > > >

>  > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

>  > > >

>  > > wrote:

>  > > > >

>  > > > > .HARE RAM.

>  > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

>  > > > > Saadar Charan

>  > > > Sparsha!

>  > > > >

>  > > > > He is my second

>  > > Guru

>  > > > in astrology but like Aacharya

>  > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

>  > > before

>  > > > while i am resident

>  > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

>  > > > knowledge so a have some

>  > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

>  > > keep

>  > > > before him.I hope kind

>  > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

>  > > > reason according to

>  > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.

>  > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

>  > > > predict that this native had a

>  > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

>  > > house.

>  > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

>  > > 8th

>  > > > lord sitted in own house,

>  > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

>  > > 7th

>  > > > lord is in own sign.

>  > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

>  > > brother?

>  > > > Karak of 3rd house

>  > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

>  > > > house is sitted with Lagan

>  > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

>  > > > nor the lord of 3rd house

>  > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

>  > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

>  > > Sh.

>  > > > Rao jee through you if

>  > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

>  > > me.

>  > > > >

>  > > > > With Due Regards

>  > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>  > > > Mobile-09818310075

>  > > > >

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Dear Arjunji,

 

You *are* a <brother of the sword> as the quaint expression goes, in

addition to many on this forum, meaning simply one who is marching

beside one, in the same army, towards the same goal, and one that can

be relied upon when push comes to shove against the enemies of

darkness (as poets state) should they prevail or seemingly so, anyway!

 

In that vein alone I say this:

 

When the playing field is so rugged as I am sure ALL serious

astrologers have experienced in our hearts and daily experience, of a

few or many years some are so bold as to say lifetimes (!), an

experienced reality where surprises lurk and failures are just

another reason to not sit down and simply keep going on, because we

are convinced of our victory march and ultimate victory (or why else

we suffer so on a daily basis, even those of us who really do not

have to?) -- it does not behoove us, as Californians say, to FELL

another brother soldier, let alone one who is really a Commander in

this Coalition Army that has brought together very different

individuals in all sense of the term 'different' and who is fighting

for truth, and against misguided logic and misinterpreted reality.

 

Few names if I may reel off, from memory that fit that bill in my

view: BV Raman, KN Rao, R Santanam, K Goenka, ND Srimali, KS

Krishnamurthi, SG Khot, PS Sastry, RG Rao, GK Rao Meena, S Rath, PVR

N Rao, GK Ojha, B Behari, J Braha, VK Aditya, GD Vasudev, T Territkar

(he did not have to include jyotish in his already successful journal

but chose to do so!), and many others that perhaps did not make this

list because of my failing, selective or overwhelmed memory (whatever

one chooses to believe!).

 

The strife, and fighting will go on, because we are all riddled with

egos and narcissism, whether we get labelled so or not but through

the picking of pieces in the battlefield, let us not leave behind the

shiny nuggets that had nothing to do with the battle that occurred

but are forever precious!

 

While we praise and glorify those that brought us so much divine

knowledge despite their being human, let us just cherish and be

grateful for the knowledge and the human vessel that presumably was

chosen by Divinity to bring to us, despite its flaws and blemishes.

The vessel will be reused again, I am sure, but what The Chef

bestowed in it the first time we came to be in contact with the

vessel -- was the real GIFT from Divinity!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004> wrote:

>

> dear prashant ji

>

> as you rightly advised, all astrologers must learn to live in

peaceful

> mutual coexistence and respect one another instead of viewing all

> other astrologers (other than himself) as a competitor and try to

CUT

> others to size so that he can increase the size of himself.  by

> cutting others, one's own image does not increase. 

>

> without taking any name, all these personal name worshipping and

> sycophancy arranging self proclaimed great astro gurus often

> publicise in the groups and media to project as if they are the

> inventors of astrology or as if they have cleaned the dust on this

old

> and unused astrology or they are the only reaserchers in the world

who

> found how to use astrology or their school is the only custodian or

> mouthpiece of astrology similar to VHP self appointing themselves as

> the voice of hindus.  like ramdevji repeats in all his preachings,

> these divine vedic shastras have come freely from the sages and we

can

> only read, learn and teach but NOT OWN IT.  with rampant

> commercialisation of astrology going unabated, i predict the day is

> not far when few TECHNIQUES or WAYS of prediction would be patented

> and copyright protected which only their licenced users (buyers of

> thier system) can use.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > I agree wih Pt Arjun that we need to respect seniors in our filed

> irrespective of their short commings and for whatever reasons we

> disagree lets make it least personal and make any comment just based

> on the merrit of the chart discussed our views if we have any on

them.

> > for whaever reasons some r gifted, to get some gpd gurus or mentos

> to shape them, some even more to get well esrablised seniors to

share

> a public platform and launch themselves, or be launched by seniors.

> >

> > as B V RAMAN did to many say like Justice Kappor KN Rao of recent

> decades. they have done great works on their own after that initial

> pushc Raman gave them.

> >

> > It is said that KN Rao later did use such a platform to bellitle,

> ridicule, humilate Raman himself after he achieved some standing of

> his own. has more books, seminar,s workshops, R&D teams etc BUT IF

WE

> CONSIDER THAT WRONG we must not compy him either, so lets move on

his

> wors r good, lets take it as it is, like we have done with other

> writer astrologer thinkers, researchers etc.

> >

> > LETS MOVE ON, no personal limits must hold us, the vaastnes of the

> sucbject needs all of us to make it stronger, greater and biger,

egos

> do the opposite.

> >

> > PRASHANT

> >

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:    dear friend sharma ji

> > 

> >  please do not take our mails personally.  we were only airing

our

> >  views that one astrologer shall not criticse another astrologer

> >  while disagreeing with his predictions.

> > 

> >  in future we can avoid such threads on those astrologers like

> >  respected KNRao who are not members of this forum since they

could

> >  not respond to what we write in these groups.

> > 

> >  with best wishes

> >  arjun

> > 

> >  , shashi shekhar sharma

> >  <polite_astro@> wrote:

> >  >

> >  >                                                        .HARE

RAM.

> >  >        Pandit Arjun jee,

> >  >                               If to say truth is the meant of

bad

> >  karma and to stand against the

> >  >                               unduly criticism is meant to

gain

> >  name and fame overnight through

> >  >                               such the cheap tactics.Therefore

i

> >  leave it to kind God who knows

> >  >                               better who is on right path.I

did my

> >  duty quite truly and sincerely.

> >  >   

> >  >                               Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> >  >

> >  > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >  >   dear friends

> >  >

> >  > last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not

a

> >  > healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any

extent

> >  for

> >  > acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish to

show

> >  > that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and

> >  applause.

> >  >

> >  > character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a

> >  great

> >  > service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my

learnt

> >  > friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

> >  > against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is sending

the

> >  > mail twice in all groups.

> >  >

> >  > earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails

> >  received

> >  > in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in

all

> >  > groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics are

> >  > generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame

overnight.

> >  >

> >  > one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the

> >  divine

> >  > science he mastered.

> >  >

> >  > hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in

doing

> >  so,

> >  > they themselves can become famous.

> >  >

> >  > with best wishes and regards

> >  > pandit arjun

> >  >

> >  > , Tatvamasi

> >  > wrote:

> >  > >

> >  > > Mr. Sharma,

> >  > >

> >  > > It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made

in

> >  > another group in JR.

> >  > > You do not even know that in what context this post was made

by

> >  > me .

> >  > > My intention was that he should have refused to participate

in

> >  > TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> >  > > Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned

man

> >  > and I know nothing

> >  > > .

> >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> >  > >

> >  > >

> >  > >

> >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> >  > wrote:

> >  > >

> >  > >

> >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> >  > wrote: Fri, 12 May

> >  > 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> >  >

> >  > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's

prediction...

> >  > CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> >  > > vedic astrology

> >  > >

> >  > > .HARE RAM.

> >  > > Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> >  > > I am sorry but it is baseless

> >  > and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> >  > > approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

> >  > he say that day?

> >  > > It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

> >  > said day.Plz try

> >  > > to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

> >  > has Mrityu Yog

> >  > > these days" but he never said about time and date surely

> >  > and he opposed

> >  > > strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

> >  > (learned person) must

> >  > > give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

> >  > natural calamities

> >  > > but also all the astrologers should make a forum

> >  > separately for the same

> >  > > purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

> >  > country.

> >  > > Please do not take it

> >  > otherwise.One should always do true

> >  > > criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

> >  > with me.Please do

> >  > > forgive me if you find some mistake.

> >  > >

> >  > > With Regards

> >  > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> >  > >

> >  > >

> >  > > Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> >  > > Dear Arjun Ji,

> >  > > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake

predictions?

> >  > > A bit curious.

> >  > >

> >  > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio

discussing

> >  the

> >  > astrologer's chart.

> >  > > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog

and

> >  may

> >  > die at predicted time.

> >  > >

> >  > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have

no

> >  > answer to this question.

> >  > >

> >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> >  > >

> >  > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such

publicity

> >  > seeker IMHO.

> >  > >

> >  > >

> >  > > panditarjun2004

> >  > > wrote:

> >  > > dear tatvam ji

> >  > >

> >  > > since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this

self-

> >  > > death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

> >  > >

> >  > > but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted

his

> >  > own

> >  > > death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so

> >  much

> >  > so

> >  > > that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

> >  > curious

> >  > > tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for

> >  getting

> >  > > their charts read (all for knowing their death date?).

several

> >  TV

> >  > > channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> >  > > predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

> >  > >

> >  > > in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by

any

> >  > > astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer

> >  finds

> >  > a

> >  > > chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and

cannot

> >  > > predict with certainty that the native will die. this is

against

> >  > > the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts

death

> >  and

> >  > > then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

> >  > >

> >  > > once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and

fake

> >  > > tantriks alike for predicting every native the following

things:

> >  > >

> >  > > 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu

and

> >  > > saturn.

> >  > > 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> >  > > 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

> >  > hindered

> >  > > or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> >  > > 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will

do

> >  > these

> >  > > poojas for you.

> >  > >

> >  > > also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga

> >  karta

> >  > > and every astrologer to predict general things for the

country

> >  > like:

> >  > >

> >  > > 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds

of

> >  ex

> >  > > prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> >  > > 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> >  > > 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> >  > > 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> >  > > 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> >  > > 6. earthquakes rock the country

> >  > > 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

> >  > himself

> >  > > as kalki avataar)

> >  > > 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

> >  > >

> >  > > any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every

year

> >  > > without saying.

> >  > >

> >  > > my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop

giving

> >  > > general predictions and give specific predictions to

individuals

> >  > who

> >  > > are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if

they

> >  > are

> >  > > not going to help the native.

> >  > >

> >  > > as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall

> >  predict

> >  > a

> >  > > chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which

shall

> >  be

> >  > > displayed by all matured astrologers.

> >  > >

> >  > > till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> >  > > thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or

> >  tsunami.

> >  > > they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after

the

> >  > > incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake

or

> >  > > tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised

predictions

> >  > > only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a

person

> >  > > predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to

15th

> >  of

> >  > a

> >  > > month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

> >  > >

> >  > > all the great sages who used to predict with their divya

drishti

> >  > > (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> >  > > negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only

to

> >  > help

> >  > > the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

> >  > >

> >  > > with best wishes

> >  > > pandit arjun

> >  > >

> >  > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> >  > > wrote:

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> >  > > >

> >  > > > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> >  > > >

> >  > > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a

village

> >  > > astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I

think)

> >  and

> >  > > Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after

seeing

> >  his

> >  > > chart that he will die.

> >  > > > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel

> >  wasted

> >  > > a whole day cov

> >  > > ering this non event.

> >  > > > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN

> >  VEDIC

> >  > > ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Tatvam-Asi

> >  > > >

> >  > > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> >  > > > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya

vidya

> >  > > Bhawan seminar

> >  > > > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about

Mr.

> >  > Pramod

> >  > > > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues

to

> >  > > his analysis

> >  > > > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join

a

> >  > > discussion in

> >  > > > trying to explain his logics in detail for public

consumption.

> >  > > The

> >  > > > students need to raise to a level through their own

research &

> >  > > knowledge

> >  > > > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to

current

> >  > > status

> >  > > > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

> >  > sharing

> >  > > of

> >  > > > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this

> >  vedic

> >  > > sciences,

> >  > > > further some of them even practise it for their daily

> >  sustenance.

> >  > > >

> >  > > > with regards,

> >  > > > sreeram srinivas

> >  > > > sreeram64@

> >  > > >

> >  > > > _____

> >  > > >

> >  > > > vedic astrology

> >  > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> >  > > jyothi_b_lakshmi

> >  > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> >  > > > vedic astrology

> >  > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT

> >  prediction

> >  > on

> >  > > Pramod

> >  > > > Mahajan/Doubts

> >  > > >

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and

I

> >  > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts

frankly

> >  and

> >  > > with

> >  > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the

> >  astrologer

> >  > > who

> >  > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by

> >  eminent

> >  > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> >  > > checking

> >  > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they

can't

> >  go

> >  > > > wrong).

> >  > > >

> >  > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> >  > > >

> >  > > >

> >  > > > Regards,

> >  > > > Jyothi

> >  > > >

> >  > > >

> >  > > >

> >  > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar

sharma

> >  > > >

> >  > > wrote:

> >  > > > >

> >  > > > > .HARE RAM.

> >  > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> >  > > > > Saadar Charan

> >  > > > Sparsha!

> >  > > > >

> >  > > > > He is my second

> >  > > Guru

> >  > > > in astrology but like Aacharya

> >  > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> >  > > before

> >  > > > while i am resident

> >  > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> >  > > > knowledge so a have some

> >  > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> >  > > keep

> >  > > > before him.I hope kind

> >  > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> >  > > > reason according to

> >  > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> >  > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> >  > > > predict that this native had a

> >  > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> >  > > house.

> >  > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> >  > > 8th

> >  > > > lord sitted in own house,

> >  > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> >  > > 7th

> >  > > > lord is in own sign.

> >  > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> >  > > brother?

> >  > > > Karak of 3rd house

> >  > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> >  > > > house is sitted with Lagan

> >  > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> >  > > > nor the lord of 3rd house

> >  > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> >  > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> >  > > Sh.

> >  > > > Rao jee through you if

> >  > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> >  > > me.

> >  > > > >

> >  > > > > With Due Regards

> >  > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

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dear RR ji

 

i learnt one great lesson from ramdevji.  if our predictions come

true, ask the native to praise jyotisha shastra (astrology) and the

sages who have given it freely.  for all those who got 100% positive

results from my rudraksha remedies, i requested them not to thank me

but the holy item rudraksha and lord shiva who has recommended them in

shivapuran..

 

 

if we falter, admit to the native that we are yet to reach perfection

in understanding and using this divine shastra.  if a native is

suffering something and i am not able to find out the reason why, i

simply admit with humility that in my understanding i am not able to

see and only god's grace is the best recourse and seeking refuge at

the lotus feet of the lord would definitely alleviate the suffering.

if done with absolute faith, faith in god never fails.

 

by giving away credit to the sages and the shastras and not taking

ourselves, we would help meliorate ourselves with continued

consistency till we reach perfection which may take several births.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

, "crystal pages" <rrgb> wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunji,

>

> You *are* a <brother of the sword> as the quaint expression goes, in

> addition to many on this forum, meaning simply one who is marching

> beside one, in the same army, towards the same goal, and one that can

> be relied upon when push comes to shove against the enemies of

> darkness (as poets state) should they prevail or seemingly so, anyway!

>

> In that vein alone I say this:

>

> When the playing field is so rugged as I am sure ALL serious

> astrologers have experienced in our hearts and daily experience, of a

> few or many years some are so bold as to say lifetimes (!), an

> experienced reality where surprises lurk and failures are just

> another reason to not sit down and simply keep going on, because we

> are convinced of our victory march and ultimate victory (or why else

> we suffer so on a daily basis, even those of us who really do not

> have to?) -- it does not behoove us, as Californians say, to FELL

> another brother soldier, let alone one who is really a Commander in

> this Coalition Army that has brought together very different

> individuals in all sense of the term 'different' and who is fighting

> for truth, and against misguided logic and misinterpreted reality.

>

> Few names if I may reel off, from memory that fit that bill in my

> view: BV Raman, KN Rao, R Santanam, K Goenka, ND Srimali, KS

> Krishnamurthi, SG Khot, PS Sastry, RG Rao, GK Rao Meena, S Rath, PVR

> N Rao, GK Ojha, B Behari, J Braha, VK Aditya, GD Vasudev, T Territkar

> (he did not have to include jyotish in his already successful journal

> but chose to do so!), and many others that perhaps did not make this

> list because of my failing, selective or overwhelmed memory (whatever

> one chooses to believe!).

>

> The strife, and fighting will go on, because we are all riddled with

> egos and narcissism, whether we get labelled so or not but through

> the picking of pieces in the battlefield, let us not leave behind the

> shiny nuggets that had nothing to do with the battle that occurred

> but are forever precious!

>

> While we praise and glorify those that brought us so much divine

> knowledge despite their being human, let us just cherish and be

> grateful for the knowledge and the human vessel that presumably was

> chosen by Divinity to bring to us, despite its flaws and blemishes.

> The vessel will be reused again, I am sure, but what The Chef

> bestowed in it the first time we came to be in contact with the

> vessel -- was the real GIFT from Divinity!

>

> RR

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear prashant ji

> >

> > as you rightly advised, all astrologers must learn to live in

> peaceful

> > mutual coexistence and respect one another instead of viewing all

> > other astrologers (other than himself) as a competitor and try to

> CUT

> > others to size so that he can increase the size of himself.  by

> > cutting others, one's own image does not increase. 

> >

> > without taking any name, all these personal name worshipping and

> > sycophancy arranging self proclaimed great astro gurus often

> > publicise in the groups and media to project as if they are the

> > inventors of astrology or as if they have cleaned the dust on this

> old

> > and unused astrology or they are the only reaserchers in the world

> who

> > found how to use astrology or their school is the only custodian or

> > mouthpiece of astrology similar to VHP self appointing themselves as

> > the voice of hindus.  like ramdevji repeats in all his preachings,

> > these divine vedic shastras have come freely from the sages and we

> can

> > only read, learn and teach but NOT OWN IT.  with rampant

> > commercialisation of astrology going unabated, i predict the day is

> > not far when few TECHNIQUES or WAYS of prediction would be patented

> > and copyright protected which only their licenced users (buyers of

> > thier system) can use.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > > I agree wih Pt Arjun that we need to respect seniors in our filed

> > irrespective of their short commings and for whatever reasons we

> > disagree lets make it least personal and make any comment just based

> > on the merrit of the chart discussed our views if we have any on

> them.

> > > for whaever reasons some r gifted, to get some gpd gurus or mentos

> > to shape them, some even more to get well esrablised seniors to

> share

> > a public platform and launch themselves, or be launched by seniors.

> > >

> > > as B V RAMAN did to many say like Justice Kappor KN Rao of recent

> > decades. they have done great works on their own after that initial

> > pushc Raman gave them.

> > >

> > > It is said that KN Rao later did use such a platform to bellitle,

> > ridicule, humilate Raman himself after he achieved some standing of

> > his own. has more books, seminar,s workshops, R&D teams etc BUT IF

> WE

> > CONSIDER THAT WRONG we must not compy him either, so lets move on

> his

> > wors r good, lets take it as it is, like we have done with other

> > writer astrologer thinkers, researchers etc.

> > >

> > > LETS MOVE ON, no personal limits must hold us, the vaastnes of the

> > sucbject needs all of us to make it stronger, greater and biger,

> egos

> > do the opposite.

> > >

> > > PRASHANT

> > >

> > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:    dear friend sharma ji

> > > 

> > >  please do not take our mails personally.  we were only airing

> our

> > >  views that one astrologer shall not criticse another astrologer

> > >  while disagreeing with his predictions.

> > > 

> > >  in future we can avoid such threads on those astrologers like

> > >  respected KNRao who are not members of this forum since they

> could

> > >  not respond to what we write in these groups.

> > > 

> > >  with best wishes

> > >  arjun

> > > 

> > >  , shashi shekhar sharma

> > >  <polite_astro@> wrote:

> > >  >

> > >  >                                                        .HARE

> RAM.

> > >  >        Pandit Arjun jee,

> > >  >                               If to say truth is the meant of

> bad

> > >  karma and to stand against the

> > >  >                               unduly criticism is meant to

> gain

> > >  name and fame overnight through

> > >  >                               such the cheap tactics.Therefore

> i

> > >  leave it to kind God who knows

> > >  >                               better who is on right path.I

> did my

> > >  duty quite truly and sincerely.

> > >  >   

> > >  >                               Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > >  >

> > >  > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >  >   dear friends

> > >  >

> > >  > last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not

> a

> > >  > healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any

> extent

> > >  for

> > >  > acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish to

> show

> > >  > that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and

> > >  applause.

> > >  >

> > >  > character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a

> > >  great

> > >  > service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my

> learnt

> > >  > friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

> > >  > against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is sending

> the

> > >  > mail twice in all groups.

> > >  >

> > >  > earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails

> > >  received

> > >  > in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in

> all

> > >  > groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics are

> > >  > generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame

> overnight.

> > >  >

> > >  > one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the

> > >  divine

> > >  > science he mastered.

> > >  >

> > >  > hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in

> doing

> > >  so,

> > >  > they themselves can become famous.

> > >  >

> > >  > with best wishes and regards

> > >  > pandit arjun

> > >  >

> > >  > , Tatvamasi

> > >  > wrote:

> > >  > >

> > >  > > Mr. Sharma,

> > >  > >

> > >  > > It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made

> in

> > >  > another group in JR.

> > >  > > You do not even know that in what context this post was made

> by

> > >  > me .

> > >  > > My intention was that he should have refused to participate

> in

> > >  > TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> > >  > > Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned

> man

> > >  > and I know nothing

> > >  > > .

> > >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >  > >

> > >  > >

> > >  > >

> > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > >  > wrote:

> > >  > >

> > >  > >

> > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > >  > wrote: Fri, 12 May

> > >  > 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > >  >

> > >  > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's

> prediction...

> > >  > CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> > >  > > vedic astrology

> > >  > >

> > >  > > .HARE RAM.

> > >  > > Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> > >  > > I am sorry but it is baseless

> > >  > and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> > >  > > approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

> > >  > he say that day?

> > >  > > It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

> > >  > said day.Plz try

> > >  > > to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

> > >  > has Mrityu Yog

> > >  > > these days" but he never said about time and date surely

> > >  > and he opposed

> > >  > > strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

> > >  > (learned person) must

> > >  > > give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

> > >  > natural calamities

> > >  > > but also all the astrologers should make a forum

> > >  > separately for the same

> > >  > > purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

> > >  > country.

> > >  > > Please do not take it

> > >  > otherwise.One should always do true

> > >  > > criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

> > >  > with me.Please do

> > >  > > forgive me if you find some mistake.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > With Regards

> > >  > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > >  > >

> > >  > >

> > >  > > Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> > >  > > Dear Arjun Ji,

> > >  > > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake

> predictions?

> > >  > > A bit curious.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio

> discussing

> > >  the

> > >  > astrologer's chart.

> > >  > > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog

> and

> > >  may

> > >  > die at predicted time.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have

> no

> > >  > answer to this question.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >  > >

> > >  > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such

> publicity

> > >  > seeker IMHO.

> > >  > >

> > >  > >

> > >  > > panditarjun2004

> > >  > > wrote:

> > >  > > dear tatvam ji

> > >  > >

> > >  > > since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this

> self-

> > >  > > death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted

> his

> > >  > own

> > >  > > death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so

> > >  much

> > >  > so

> > >  > > that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

> > >  > curious

> > >  > > tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for

> > >  getting

> > >  > > their charts read (all for knowing their death date?).

> several

> > >  TV

> > >  > > channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> > >  > > predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by

> any

> > >  > > astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer

> > >  finds

> > >  > a

> > >  > > chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and

> cannot

> > >  > > predict with certainty that the native will die. this is

> against

> > >  > > the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts

> death

> > >  and

> > >  > > then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and

> fake

> > >  > > tantriks alike for predicting every native the following

> things:

> > >  > >

> > >  > > 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu

> and

> > >  > > saturn.

> > >  > > 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> > >  > > 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

> > >  > hindered

> > >  > > or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> > >  > > 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will

> do

> > >  > these

> > >  > > poojas for you.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga

> > >  karta

> > >  > > and every astrologer to predict general things for the

> country

> > >  > like:

> > >  > >

> > >  > > 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds

> of

> > >  ex

> > >  > > prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> > >  > > 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> > >  > > 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> > >  > > 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> > >  > > 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> > >  > > 6. earthquakes rock the country

> > >  > > 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

> > >  > himself

> > >  > > as kalki avataar)

> > >  > > 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every

> year

> > >  > > without saying.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop

> giving

> > >  > > general predictions and give specific predictions to

> individuals

> > >  > who

> > >  > > are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if

> they

> > >  > are

> > >  > > not going to help the native.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall

> > >  predict

> > >  > a

> > >  > > chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which

> shall

> > >  be

> > >  > > displayed by all matured astrologers.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> > >  > > thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or

> > >  tsunami.

> > >  > > they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after

> the

> > >  > > incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake

> or

> > >  > > tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised

> predictions

> > >  > > only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a

> person

> > >  > > predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to

> 15th

> > >  of

> > >  > a

> > >  > > month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

> > >  > >

> > >  > > all the great sages who used to predict with their divya

> drishti

> > >  > > (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> > >  > > negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only

> to

> > >  > help

> > >  > > the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

> > >  > >

> > >  > > with best wishes

> > >  > > pandit arjun

> > >  > >

> > >  > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> > >  > > wrote:

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a

> village

> > >  > > astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I

> think)

> > >  and

> > >  > > Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after

> seeing

> > >  his

> > >  > > chart that he will die.

> > >  > > > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel

> > >  wasted

> > >  > > a whole day cov

> > >  > > ering this non event.

> > >  > > > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN

> > >  VEDIC

> > >  > > ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > >  > > > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya

> vidya

> > >  > > Bhawan seminar

> > >  > > > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about

> Mr.

> > >  > Pramod

> > >  > > > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues

> to

> > >  > > his analysis

> > >  > > > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join

> a

> > >  > > discussion in

> > >  > > > trying to explain his logics in detail for public

> consumption.

> > >  > > The

> > >  > > > students need to raise to a level through their own

> research &

> > >  > > knowledge

> > >  > > > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to

> current

> > >  > > status

> > >  > > > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

> > >  > sharing

> > >  > > of

> > >  > > > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this

> > >  vedic

> > >  > > sciences,

> > >  > > > further some of them even practise it for their daily

> > >  sustenance.

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > with regards,

> > >  > > > sreeram srinivas

> > >  > > > sreeram64@

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > _____

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > vedic astrology

> > >  > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> > >  > > jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > >  > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > >  > > > vedic astrology

> > >  > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT

> > >  prediction

> > >  > on

> > >  > > Pramod

> > >  > > > Mahajan/Doubts

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and

> I

> > >  > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts

> frankly

> > >  and

> > >  > > with

> > >  > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the

> > >  astrologer

> > >  > > who

> > >  > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by

> > >  eminent

> > >  > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> > >  > > checking

> > >  > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they

> can't

> > >  go

> > >  > > > wrong).

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > Regards,

> > >  > > > Jyothi

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar

> sharma

> > >  > > >

> > >  > > wrote:

> > >  > > > >

> > >  > > > > .HARE RAM.

> > >  > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > >  > > > > Saadar Charan

> > >  > > > Sparsha!

> > >  > > > >

> > >  > > > > He is my second

> > >  > > Guru

> > >  > > > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > >  > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> > >  > > before

> > >  > > > while i am resident

> > >  > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > >  > > > knowledge so a have some

> > >  > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> > >  > > keep

> > >  > > > before him.I hope kind

> > >  > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> > >  > > > reason according to

> > >  > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > >  > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > >  > > > predict that this native had a

> > >  > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> > >  > > house.

> > >  > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> > >  > > 8th

> > >  > > > lord sitted in own house,

> > >  > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> > >  > > 7th

> > >  > > > lord is in own sign.

> > >  > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> > >  > > brother?

> > >  > > > Karak of 3rd house

> > >  > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > >  > > > house is sitted with Lagan

> > >  > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > >  > > > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > >  > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > >  > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> > >  > > Sh.

> > >  > > > Rao jee through you if

> > >  > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> > >  > > me.

> > >  > > > >

> > >  > > > > With Due Regards

> > >  > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

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Dear Arjun ji,

 

 

Thanks for sharing!

 

I must differ a bit in my understanding. Please indulge me!

 

My personal and I am sure imperfect belief is that The Sages were

Humans that walked on this earth, for a reason or limitation that we

do not understand but often surmise. Be it Jesus or Buddha or Rama or

Krishna or Others (respectfully and sincerely stated).

 

We do not have all and everything that the Sages said or intended for

us to remember, or maybe we simply have only that that we could

handle at our current level of comprehension! Shall remain a mystery

for now!!

 

Dry saturnine *Jest* instigates that perhaps because channeling has

only recently become possible or in vogue, in the east and the west 

(North and South are so busy that they do not show up at board

meetings of astrologers!) But I do not want to take the seriousness

away from that which we are now willingly exploring.

 

We see God as a parent, in many religions.

Parents turn old.

Parents want children to take charge so they can retire.

I am sure God does not want that and Thank God for that!

But since most religions, even the non-anthropomorphic ones really

see God as a supervisor, parent, higherup, all controlling -- I

wonder if their God is also all ready for HIS/HER/ITS children to get

in the driver's seat!

 

One thing I have realized in my limited observation power is that GOD

is an EMPOWERER and not a micromanager!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004> wrote:

>

> dear RR ji

>

> i learnt one great lesson from ramdevji.  if our predictions come

> true, ask the native to praise jyotisha shastra (astrology) and the

> sages who have given it freely.  for all those who got 100% positive

> results from my rudraksha remedies, i requested them not to thank me

> but the holy item rudraksha and lord shiva who has recommended them

in

> shivapuran..

>

>

> if we falter, admit to the native that we are yet to reach

perfection

> in understanding and using this divine shastra.  if a native is

> suffering something and i am not able to find out the reason why, i

> simply admit with humility that in my understanding i am not able to

> see and only god's grace is the best recourse and seeking refuge at

> the lotus feet of the lord would definitely alleviate the

suffering.

> if done with absolute faith, faith in god never fails.

>

> by giving away credit to the sages and the shastras and not taking

> ourselves, we would help meliorate ourselves with continued

> consistency till we reach perfection which may take several births.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

>

> , "crystal pages" <rrgb@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjunji,

> >

> > You *are* a <brother of the sword> as the quaint expression goes,

in

> > addition to many on this forum, meaning simply one who is

marching

> > beside one, in the same army, towards the same goal, and one that

can

> > be relied upon when push comes to shove against the enemies of

> > darkness (as poets state) should they prevail or seemingly so,

anyway!

> >

> > In that vein alone I say this:

> >

> > When the playing field is so rugged as I am sure ALL serious

> > astrologers have experienced in our hearts and daily experience,

of a

> > few or many years some are so bold as to say lifetimes (!), an

> > experienced reality where surprises lurk and failures are just

> > another reason to not sit down and simply keep going on, because

we

> > are convinced of our victory march and ultimate victory (or why

else

> > we suffer so on a daily basis, even those of us who really do not

> > have to?) -- it does not behoove us, as Californians say, to FELL

> > another brother soldier, let alone one who is really a Commander

in

> > this Coalition Army that has brought together very different

> > individuals in all sense of the term 'different' and who is

fighting

> > for truth, and against misguided logic and misinterpreted reality..

> >

> > Few names if I may reel off, from memory that fit that bill in my

> > view: BV Raman, KN Rao, R Santanam, K Goenka, ND Srimali, KS

> > Krishnamurthi, SG Khot, PS Sastry, RG Rao, GK Rao Meena, S Rath,

PVR

> > N Rao, GK Ojha, B Behari, J Braha, VK Aditya, GD Vasudev, T

Territkar

> > (he did not have to include jyotish in his already successful

journal

> > but chose to do so!), and many others that perhaps did not make

this

> > list because of my failing, selective or overwhelmed memory

(whatever

> > one chooses to believe!).

> >

> > The strife, and fighting will go on, because we are all riddled

with

> > egos and narcissism, whether we get labelled so or not but

through

> > the picking of pieces in the battlefield, let us not leave behind

the

> > shiny nuggets that had nothing to do with the battle that

occurred

> > but are forever precious!

> >

> > While we praise and glorify those that brought us so much divine

> > knowledge despite their being human, let us just cherish and be

> > grateful for the knowledge and the human vessel that presumably

was

> > chosen by Divinity to bring to us, despite its flaws and

blemishes.

> > The vessel will be reused again, I am sure, but what The Chef

> > bestowed in it the first time we came to be in contact with the

> > vessel -- was the real GIFT from Divinity!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear prashant ji

> > >

> > > as you rightly advised, all astrologers must learn to live in

> > peaceful

> > > mutual coexistence and respect one another instead of viewing

all

> > > other astrologers (other than himself) as a competitor and try

to

> > CUT

> > > others to size so that he can increase the size of himself.  by

> > > cutting others, one's own image does not increase. 

> > >

> > > without taking any name, all these personal name worshipping and

> > > sycophancy arranging self proclaimed great astro gurus often

> > > publicise in the groups and media to project as if they are the

> > > inventors of astrology or as if they have cleaned the dust on

this

> > old

> > > and unused astrology or they are the only reaserchers in the

world

> > who

> > > found how to use astrology or their school is the only

custodian or

> > > mouthpiece of astrology similar to VHP self appointing

themselves as

> > > the voice of hindus.  like ramdevji repeats in all his

preachings,

> > > these divine vedic shastras have come freely from the sages and

we

> > can

> > > only read, learn and teach but NOT OWN IT.  with rampant

> > > commercialisation of astrology going unabated, i predict the

day is

> > > not far when few TECHNIQUES or WAYS of prediction would be

patented

> > > and copyright protected which only their licenced users (buyers

of

> > > thier system) can use.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > > I agree wih Pt Arjun that we need to respect seniors in our

filed

> > > irrespective of their short commings and for whatever reasons we

> > > disagree lets make it least personal and make any comment just

based

> > > on the merrit of the chart discussed our views if we have any

on

> > them.

> > > > for whaever reasons some r gifted, to get some gpd gurus or

mentos

> > > to shape them, some even more to get well esrablised seniors to

> > share

> > > a public platform and launch themselves, or be launched by

seniors.

> > > >

> > > > as B V RAMAN did to many say like Justice Kappor KN Rao of

recent

> > > decades. they have done great works on their own after that

initial

> > > pushc Raman gave them.

> > > >

> > > > It is said that KN Rao later did use such a platform to

bellitle,

> > > ridicule, humilate Raman himself after he achieved some

standing of

> > > his own. has more books, seminar,s workshops, R&D teams etc BUT

IF

> > WE

> > > CONSIDER THAT WRONG we must not compy him either, so lets move

on

> > his

> > > wors r good, lets take it as it is, like we have done with other

> > > writer astrologer thinkers, researchers etc.

> > > >

> > > > LETS MOVE ON, no personal limits must hold us, the vaastnes

of the

> > > sucbject needs all of us to make it stronger, greater and

biger,

> > egos

> > > do the opposite.

> > > >

> > > > PRASHANT

> > > >

> > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:    dear friend

sharma ji

> > > > 

> > > >  please do not take our mails personally.  we were only

airing

> > our

> > > >  views that one astrologer shall not criticse another

astrologer

> > > >  while disagreeing with his predictions.

> > > > 

> > > >  in future we can avoid such threads on those astrologers

like

> > > >  respected KNRao who are not members of this forum since they

> > could

> > > >  not respond to what we write in these groups.

> > > > 

> > > >  with best wishes

> > > >  arjun

> > > > 

> > > >  , shashi shekhar

sharma

> > > >  <polite_astro@> wrote:

> > > >  >

> > > > 

>                                                        .HARE

> > RAM.

> > > >  >        Pandit Arjun jee,

> > > >  >                               If to say truth is the meant

of

> > bad

> > > >  karma and to stand against the

> > > >  >                               unduly criticism is meant to

> > gain

> > > >  name and fame overnight through

> > > >  >                               such the cheap

tactics.Therefore

> > i

> > > >  leave it to kind God who knows

> > > >  >                               better who is on right

path.I

> > did my

> > > >  duty quite truly and sincerely.

> > > >  >   

> > > >  >                               Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > > >  >

> > > >  > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >  >   dear friends

> > > >  >

> > > >  > last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is

not

> > a

> > > >  > healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any

> > extent

> > > >  for

> > > >  > acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish

to

> > show

> > > >  > that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim

and

> > > >  applause.

> > > >  >

> > > >  > character assasination or criticism of a person who has

done a

> > > >  great

> > > >  > service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my

> > learnt

> > > >  > friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his

difference

> > > >  > against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is

sending

> > the

> > > >  > mail twice in all groups.

> > > >  >

> > > >  > earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise

mails

> > > >  received

> > > >  > in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them

in

> > all

> > > >  > groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics

are

> > > >  > generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame

> > overnight.

> > > >  >

> > > >  > one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect

the

> > > >  divine

> > > >  > science he mastered.

> > > >  >

> > > >  > hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in

> > doing

> > > >  so,

> > > >  > they themselves can become famous.

> > > >  >

> > > >  > with best wishes and regards

> > > >  > pandit arjun

> > > >  >

> > > >  > , Tatvamasi

> > > >  > wrote:

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > Mr. Sharma,

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post

made

> > in

> > > >  > another group in JR.

> > > >  > > You do not even know that in what context this post was

made

> > by

> > > >  > me .

> > > >  > > My intention was that he should have refused to

participate

> > in

> > > >  > TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> > > >  > > Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a

learned

> > man

> > > >  > and I know nothing

> > > >  > > .

> > > >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > > >  > wrote:

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > > >  > wrote: Fri, 12 May

> > > >  > 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >  > > shashi shekhar sharma

> > > >  >

> > > >  > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's

> > prediction...

> > > >  > CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> > > >  > > vedic astrology

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > .HARE RAM.

> > > >  > > Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> > > >  > > I am sorry but it is baseless

> > > >  > and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> > > >  > > approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

> > > >  > he say that day?

> > > >  > > It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

> > > >  > said day.Plz try

> > > >  > > to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

> > > >  > has Mrityu Yog

> > > >  > > these days" but he never said about time and date surely

> > > >  > and he opposed

> > > >  > > strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

> > > >  > (learned person) must

> > > >  > > give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

> > > >  > natural calamities

> > > >  > > but also all the astrologers should make a forum

> > > >  > separately for the same

> > > >  > > purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

> > > >  > country.

> > > >  > > Please do not take it

> > > >  > otherwise.One should always do true

> > > >  > > criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

> > > >  > with me.Please do

> > > >  > > forgive me if you find some mistake.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > With Regards

> > > >  > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> > > >  > > Dear Arjun Ji,

> > > >  > > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake

> > predictions?

> > > >  > > A bit curious.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio

> > discussing

> > > >  the

> > > >  > astrologer's chart.

> > > >  > > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu

Yog

> > and

> > > >  may

> > > >  > die at predicted time.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I

have

> > no

> > > >  > answer to this question.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such

> > publicity

> > > >  > seeker IMHO.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > panditarjun2004

> > > >  > > wrote:

> > > >  > > dear tatvam ji

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on

this

> > self-

> > > >  > > death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > but one thing is certain that this astrologer who

predicted

> > his

> > > >  > own

> > > >  > > death with exact date and time was giving self

publicity, so

> > > >  much

> > > >  > so

> > > >  > > that some local newspapers mentioned his village got

several

> > > >  > curious

> > > >  > > tourists and he had several customers waiting in line

for

> > > >  getting

> > > >  > > their charts read (all for knowing their death date?).

> > several

> > > >  TV

> > > >  > > channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-

death

> > > >  > > predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made

by

> > any

> > > >  > > astrologer either for others or for self. if the

astrologer

> > > >  finds

> > > >  > a

> > > >  > > chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and

> > cannot

> > > >  > > predict with certainty that the native will die. this is

> > against

> > > >  > > the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts

> > death

> > > >  and

> > > >  > > then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers

and

> > fake

> > > >  > > tantriks alike for predicting every native the following

> > things:

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu,

ketu

> > and

> > > >  > > saturn.

> > > >  > > 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> > > >  > > 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth

is

> > > >  > hindered

> > > >  > > or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> > > >  > > 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i

will

> > do

> > > >  > these

> > > >  > > poojas for you.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > also these days, it has become a fashion for every

panchanga

> > > >  karta

> > > >  > > and every astrologer to predict general things for the

> > country

> > > >  > like:

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are

hundreds

> > of

> > > >  ex

> > > >  > > prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> > > >  > > 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern

states

> > > >  > > 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> > > >  > > 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> > > >  > > 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds

drowned.

> > > >  > > 6. earthquakes rock the country

> > > >  > > 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman

claims

> > > >  > himself

> > > >  > > as kalki avataar)

> > > >  > > 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > any blind man can guess that these predictions happen

every

> > year

> > > >  > > without saying.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > my humble submission to all such astrologers is that

stop

> > giving

> > > >  > > general predictions and give specific predictions to

> > individuals

> > > >  > who

> > > >  > > are approaching the group. such predictions are useless

if

> > they

> > > >  > are

> > > >  > > not going to help the native.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer

shall

> > > >  predict

> > > >  > a

> > > >  > > chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which

> > shall

> > > >  be

> > > >  > > displayed by all matured astrologers.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees

and

> > > >  > > thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake

or

> > > >  tsunami.

> > > >  > > they all come to donate blankets or food packets only

after

> > the

> > > >  > > incident. not a single astrologer could predict

earthquake

> > or

> > > >  > > tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised

> > predictions

> > > >  > > only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a

> > person

> > > >  > > predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st

to

> > 15th

> > > >  of

> > > >  > a

> > > >  > > month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > all the great sages who used to predict with their divya

> > drishti

> > > >  > > (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting

any

> > > >  > > negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is

only

> > to

> > > >  > help

> > > >  > > the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID

SO".

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > with best wishes

> > > >  > > pandit arjun

> > > >  > >

> > > >  > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> > > >  > > wrote:

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a

> > village

> > > >  > > astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I

> > think)

> > > >  and

> > > >  > > Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after

> > seeing

> > > >  his

> > > >  > > chart that he will die.

> > > >  > > > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV

Channel

> > > >  wasted

> > > >  > > a whole day cov

> > > >  > > ering this non event.

> > > >  > > > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS

TOPIC IN

> > > >  VEDIC

> > > >  > > ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > > >  > > > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya

> > vidya

> > > >  > > Bhawan seminar

> > > >  > > > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction

about

> > Mr.

> > > >  > Pramod

> > > >  > > > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic

clues

> > to

> > > >  > > his analysis

> > > >  > > > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to

join

> > a

> > > >  > > discussion in

> > > >  > > > trying to explain his logics in detail for public

> > consumption.

> > > >  > > The

> > > >  > > > students need to raise to a level through their own

> > research &

> > > >  > > knowledge

> > > >  > > > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to

> > current

> > > >  > > status

> > > >  > > > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to

his

> > > >  > sharing

> > > >  > > of

> > > >  > > > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in

this

> > > >  vedic

> > > >  > > sciences,

> > > >  > > > further some of them even practise it for their daily

> > > >  sustenance.

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > with regards,

> > > >  > > > sreeram srinivas

> > > >  > > > sreeram64@

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > _____

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > vedic astrology

> > > >  > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> > > >  > > jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > > >  > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > > >  > > > vedic astrology

> > > >  > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT

> > > >  prediction

> > > >  > on

> > > >  > > Pramod

> > > >  > > > Mahajan/Doubts

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts)

and

> > I

> > > >  > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts

> > frankly

> > > >  and

> > > >  > > with

> > > >  > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the

> > > >  astrologer

> > > >  > > who

> > > >  > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made

by

> > > >  eminent

> > > >  > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it

(without

> > > >  > > checking

> > > >  > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that

they

> > can't

> > > >  go

> > > >  > > > wrong).

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > Regards,

> > > >  > > > Jyothi

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > > vedic astrology (AT) (DOT) .com, shashi shekhar

> > sharma

> > > >  > > >

> > > >  > > wrote:

> > > >  > > > >

> > > >  > > > > .HARE RAM.

> > > >  > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > > >  > > > > Saadar Charan

> > > >  > > > Sparsha!

> > > >  > > > >

> > > >  > > > > He is my second

> > > >  > > Guru

> > > >  > > > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > > >  > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> > > >  > > before

> > > >  > > > while i am resident

> > > >  > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > > >  > > > knowledge so a have some

> > > >  > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> > > >  > > keep

> > > >  > > > before him.I hope kind

> > > >  > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us

the

> > > >  > > > reason according to

> > > >  > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > > >  > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > > >  > > > predict that this native had a

> > > >  > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> > > >  > > house.

> > > >  > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> > > >  > > 8th

> > > >  > > > lord sitted in own house,

> > > >  > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> > > >  > > 7th

> > > >  > > > lord is in own sign.

> > > >  > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> > > >  > > brother?

> > > >  > > > Karak of 3rd house

> > > >  > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > > >  > > > house is sitted with Lagan

> > > >  > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > > >  > > > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > > >  > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > > >  > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> > > >  > > Sh.

> > > >  > > > Rao jee through you if

> > > >  > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> > > >  > > me.

> > > >  > > > >

> > > >  > > > > With Due Regards

> > > >  > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

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