Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Namaste Ranjiaiyer, Based on my understanding of the vedic literature, jyotish, as well as my western educational background, our state of consciousness is the standard that ultimately determines our understanding of the absolute, or heavenly realm. The rishis and prophets of the past have shown us the potential of the human mind and consciosness. They have congnized ideas about the dynamics of the supernatural which we are still trying to decipher to this day. Specifically, we read a story of Krishna who dances at midnight with the Gopis. What does that mean? We can interpret this story to say that Krishna represents the ultimate deity who enjoys himself no matter what the condition of the universe is. In the Srimad Bhagavatam, we learn that during the day of Vishnu the various universes are created. During the night of Vishnu, all of the universes are destroyed. So, we can interpret that Krishna is beyond the cycle of destruction because he enjoys himself even at midnight by dancing with the Gopis. The point I'm making is that all human beings have the capacity to understand and reach the levels of understanding that the rishis have attained. Nonetheless, it an unfortunate fact that most people in this world have not awakened to their true potential. Most people are functioning at the level of instincts in nature. At this level, we are held by the inertia of matter to a limited vision of the universe. We either fight or take flight based on our limited understanding. In other words, we are subjected to our own attachments to matter, or the illusions of reality (maya). As we awaken our consciousness to the higher levels, we also recognize the limitations of our concept of our past 'gods'. Thus, they eventually die because of our new understanding of the cosmos. I believe at the higher levels of consciousness our understanding of suffering and grief changes. Suffering implies a loss of something that we value or are attached to. If we are not attached to that one thing or person, then can we still suffer at the loss of that thing or person? I am not implying that this state makes us unemotional or heartless. At the higher levels, there is no suffering. There is only an appreciation of the changes. This sounds heartless.... The point I'm making is that the deity who will eventually be accepted by humans will be that deity who shows love and concern for humans despite our weaknesses and faults. Regards, John R. <*> valist/ <*> valist <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Well said! These are ideas that fit for me! I hadn't thought of how Krishna fit into the "picture" -- well-said.... thank you. John <jr_esq > wrote: Namaste Ranjiaiyer, Based on my understanding of the vedic literature, jyotish, as well as my western educational background, our state of consciousness is the standard that ultimately determines our understanding of the absolute, or heavenly realm. The rishis and prophets of the past have shown us the potential of the human mind and consciosness. They have congnized ideas about the dynamics of the supernatural which we are still trying to decipher to this day. Specifically, we read a story of Krishna who dances at midnight with the Gopis. What does that mean? Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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