Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Dear Maniv When you need guidance pls share the birth data on such a occasion. As no goroscope is seen in isolation but it is the holistic veiw of chart that brings out the predictions out of it. In my veiw only two planets degrees are not enough if you can share the data then i may help you. Thanks and best regards Amer Abbas , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> wrote: > To learned Astrologers, > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is placed > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > Virgo, 9th house? > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > Thank you > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Dear M, Such a planet is helpless in a cuspal degree Sandhistho na phalaprada and will not do any good The Highest Wisdom is Love G Kumar Astro Scholar, Philosopher & Programmer www.e.com - maniv1321 <maniv1321 <> Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:18 PM Planets at Zero Degrees > To learned Astrologers, > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is placed > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > Virgo, 9th house? > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > Thank you > > Maniv > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Dear friend, Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding any of the planet situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to explaint it in a much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at either beyond 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres most bad effects. Any planet situated within these degrees is definitely creates harmfull effects. Thanks, v_kshemkalyani , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> wrote: > To learned Astrologers, > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is placed > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > Virgo, 9th house? > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > Thank you > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Firstly, a planet is in the last degree at the time of one's birth, signifies that native is very close to master an important lesson of the universe, but still has not quite achieved the success. It is only when the lesson of that planet is mastered that one may move on and progress spiritually and universally. People with such a degree have a lesson to learn. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to channel the energy of that planet in right direction. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend spiritually. Secondly, wise and truly learned astrologers take the meaning of planets at such a degree and ENCOURAGE people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics; AND DONT SHOW THE HIGHWAY TO DOOM AND GLOOM AS IF THERE IS NO TOMOROW.. Jai Gurudev! --- v_kshemkalyani <v_kshemkalyani wrote: > > Dear friend, > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding > any of the planet > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to > explaint it in a > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at > either beyond > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres > most bad effects. > Any planet situated within these degrees is > definitely creates > harmfull effects. > > Thanks, > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" > <maniv1321> > wrote: > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a > planet that is > placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or > Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such > weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the > previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Amer, I agree in totality that we should consider the horoscope as a whole, and that partial configurations rarely give the full picture. However, my query was a general one related to the technical/theoretical aspect of any planet placed at zero degrees in a sign, and I was searching for a few opinions on such a placement. Pleas feel free, if you wish, to give an opinion on the following horoscope which has Mars at zero degree in Gemini: Female 21061983 0636AM Ahmedabad, India Regards Maniv , "Amer Abbas" <farg135@b...> wrote: > Dear Maniv > > When you need guidance pls share the birth data on such a occasion. As > no goroscope is seen in isolation but it is the holistic veiw of chart > that brings out the predictions out of it. In my veiw only two planets > degrees are not enough if you can share the data then i may help you. > > Thanks and best regards > > Amer Abbas > > > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> > wrote: > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is > placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 G Kumar, Thank you for your response. May I request the source from which you derived "Sandhistho na phalaprada" ? >From your experience, can you say with affirmation that such a configuration does in fact render the planet powerless? Regards Maniv , e <e@s...> wrote: > Dear M, > > Such a planet is helpless in a cuspal degree > > Sandhistho na phalaprada > > and will not do any good > > The Highest Wisdom is Love > G Kumar > Astro Scholar, Philosopher & Programmer > www.e.com > > > > - > maniv1321 <maniv1321> > <> > Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:18 PM > Planets at Zero Degrees > > > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 V Kshemkalyani, Thank you for your response. I would be grateful if you could please enlighten me as to the source of your information - is it based on a Jyotish Shastra as well as your own practical experiences? If so would it be too much to request some example birth charts where a planet placed as such has caused only harmful effects? Regards Maniv , "v_kshemkalyani" <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > Dear friend, > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding any of the planet > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to explaint it in a > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at either beyond > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres most bad effects. > Any planet situated within these degrees is definitely creates > harmfull effects. > > Thanks, > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> > wrote: > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is > placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Hello, what if it is at 00.03'. Is it still bad or just ok. Thanks, Sriram. , "v_kshemkalyani" <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > Dear friend, > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding any of the planet > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to explaint it in a > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at either beyond > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres most bad effects. > Any planet situated within these degrees is definitely creates > harmfull effects. > > Thanks, > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> > wrote: > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is > placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I wish all such interpretation if supported by classics will help one and all instead of mentioning as "most bad effects". >From 0 degrees to 6 degrees it is baal avstha and gives 1/4 results in odd signs.In even signs 24 to 30 degrees baal avastha(infancy) and in 0to 6 degreesold and dead avstha( mrit avastha) giving nil results.it is as good presence or no presence of planet in the sign/house is of significance. There is only avasthas which gives the best is yuva avastha ie 12 to 18 degrees,the rest give results proportionately. Based on p449 of BPHS krishnan Sriram Chitta <sriramchitta wrote: Hello, what if it is at 00.03'. Is it still bad or just ok. Thanks, Sriram. , "v_kshemkalyani" <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > Dear friend, > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding any of the planet > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to explaint it in a > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at either beyond > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres most bad effects. > Any planet situated within these degrees is definitely creates > harmfull effects. > > Thanks, > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321> > wrote: > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a planet that is > placed > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or Moon at 0 degrees > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such weakened/strengthened and is it > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the previous sign/house? > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > Maniv SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Vir Van, I share your views. Astrologers have to follow a code of ethics,never ever to discourage the persons who seek guidance astrologically. Statistically, mature astrologers feel in predictions 65% accuracy is generally achieved,I am aware this may create controversy.These staistics are achieved or a large span of time.We must recognise,we are as good as feel we are,every astrologer is first a human being, subject to same pressures,hence not at peak all the time. Astrology is indicative only ,not deterministic.How then we prophecise bad happenings, all because we read few books and quote chapter & verse.Experience is much more than that,it a lifetime.I heard recently a case of young man with Saturn around 0+,in absolute infancy,enjoying wonderful career. This divine science needs to be treated with reverence. Regards, , Vir Van <virvan2000> wrote: > Firstly, a planet is in the last degree at the time of > one's birth, signifies that native is very close to > master an important lesson of the universe, but still > has not quite achieved the success. It is only when > the lesson of that planet is mastered that one may > move on and progress spiritually and universally. > People with such a degree have a lesson to learn. This > planetary position signifies an urgent need to > channel the energy of that planet in right direction. > The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the > individual wants to grow and transcend spiritually. > Secondly, wise and truly learned astrologers take the > meaning of planets at such a degree and ENCOURAGE > people to push themselves in the directions of the > planet's characteristics; AND DONT SHOW THE HIGHWAY TO > DOOM AND GLOOM AS IF THERE IS NO TOMOROW.. > > Jai Gurudev! > > > --- v_kshemkalyani <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding > > any of the planet > > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to > > explaint it in a > > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at > > either beyond > > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres > > most bad effects. > > Any planet situated within these degrees is > > definitely creates > > harmfull effects. > > > > Thanks, > > > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" > > <maniv1321> > > wrote: > > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a > > planet that is > > placed > > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or > > Moon at 0 degrees > > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such > > weakened/strengthened and is it > > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the > > previous sign/house? > > > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear All, Planets in ZERO degree of a house are usually of very weak in giving results of their adjacent houses. In such cases, they act according to their dispositors; the strongest of the dispositor, naturally, will be the driving force. 1.As classics name it, the RAASHI-SANDHI is a sensitive point and its occupant has ZERO power(from 29 deg of last sign to 1 degree present sign). Particularly at ZERO degree, any planet is present in TWO SIGNS and has TWO LORDS and two dispositors. The stronger of them influences the planet and makes it act accordingly. 2. When a planet is in Raashi Sandhi, involving one of its own raashi, the influence is simple - the lord of the other sign controls it! 3. When both the rashis are owned by the same planet in the Sandhi(possible only in case of Shani at ZERO degree KUMBHA), the driving force comes from the lord of the Nakshatra of the Sandhi(here DhaniShTa - lord Kuja). The same principle can be applied to other cases also, except for RKSHA sandhi. 4. Though, Nakshatra lord can be taken as the driving force for the planet in Rashi Sandhi, at THREE points of Zodiac, Rashi-Sandhi coincides with Nakshatra-Sandhi and is called RKSHA sandhi(end of Kataka, Vrishchika, Meena) and any planet placed here, is very badly weak in giving any good result. To be frank, these points are the black holes of the zodiac, and indicate SADYO MARANA or death immediately after birth!! It is very interesting to note that these points exist near the stars of Kethu, the Moksha Karaka! Very crudely, it may be said that a planet in rashi-sandhi becomes 'homeless' just like the Rahu-Kethu! yours KAD , "R Satish" <rsatish1942> wrote: > Dear Vir Van, > I share your views. > Astrologers have to follow a code of ethics,never ever to discourage > the persons who seek guidance astrologically. > > Statistically, mature astrologers feel in predictions 65% accuracy > is generally achieved,I am aware this may create controversy.These > staistics are achieved or a large span of time.We must recognise,we > are as good as feel we are,every astrologer is first a human being, > subject to same pressures,hence not at peak all the time. > > Astrology is indicative only ,not deterministic.How then we > prophecise bad happenings, all because we read few books and quote > chapter & verse.Experience is much more than that,it a lifetime.I > heard recently a case of young man with Saturn around 0+,in absolute > infancy,enjoying wonderful career. > > This divine science needs to be treated with reverence. > > Regards, > > > > > > , Vir Van <virvan2000> > wrote: > > Firstly, a planet is in the last degree at the time of > > one's birth, signifies that native is very close to > > master an important lesson of the universe, but still > > has not quite achieved the success. It is only when > > the lesson of that planet is mastered that one may > > move on and progress spiritually and universally. > > People with such a degree have a lesson to learn. This > > planetary position signifies an urgent need to > > channel the energy of that planet in right direction. > > The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the > > individual wants to grow and transcend spiritually. > > Secondly, wise and truly learned astrologers take the > > meaning of planets at such a degree and ENCOURAGE > > people to push themselves in the directions of the > > planet's characteristics; AND DONT SHOW THE HIGHWAY TO > > DOOM AND GLOOM AS IF THERE IS NO TOMOROW.. > > > > Jai Gurudev! > > > > > > --- v_kshemkalyani <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding > > > any of the planet > > > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to > > > explaint it in a > > > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at > > > either beyond > > > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres > > > most bad effects. > > > Any planet situated within these degrees is > > > definitely creates > > > harmfull effects. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" > > > <maniv1321> > > > wrote: > > > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a > > > planet that is > > > placed > > > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or > > > Moon at 0 degrees > > > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such > > > weakened/strengthened and is it > > > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the > > > previous sign/house? > > > > > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Dear Kadrudra, Vattem and others Thank you for your answers. So in essence, it seems a planet placed between 29-1 degrees is rendered very weak and its significations are thus harmed. This weakness makes the planet fully dependant on its despositor as a source of strength (as in Rahu-Ketu) and the despositor is determined by the stronger of the two planets ruling the adjacent houses. For example, if the Moon is placed in Virgo at 0 degrees and the Sun stronger than Mercury in the chart, then we assume the Moon to behave as it is in Leo and give results similar to the Sun. Could this actually be a beneficial placement if the dispositor of the adjacent house is a Yogkaraka in strength? Also does the dispositor also take over the affairs of the planets natural rulership e.g the Sun take over lordship of cancer also? Can we stretch this principle that far? I would also be interested in discussing a few charts with such a configuration to examine how this theory pans out in actuality. Regards Maniv , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear All, > > Planets in ZERO degree of a house are usually of very weak > in giving results of their adjacent houses. In such cases, > they act according to their dispositors; the strongest of > the dispositor, naturally, will be the driving force. > > 1.As classics name it, the RAASHI-SANDHI is a sensitive point > and its occupant has ZERO power(from 29 deg of last sign to > 1 degree present sign). Particularly at ZERO degree, any > planet is present in TWO SIGNS and has TWO LORDS and two > dispositors. The stronger of them influences the planet and > makes it act accordingly. > > 2. When a planet is in Raashi Sandhi, involving one of its > own raashi, the influence is simple - the lord of the other > sign controls it! > > 3. When both the rashis are owned by the same planet in the > Sandhi(possible only in case of Shani at ZERO degree KUMBHA), > the driving force comes from the lord of the Nakshatra of > the Sandhi(here DhaniShTa - lord Kuja). The same principle > can be applied to other cases also, except for RKSHA sandhi. > > 4. Though, Nakshatra lord can be taken as the driving force > for the planet in Rashi Sandhi, at THREE points of Zodiac, > Rashi-Sandhi coincides with Nakshatra-Sandhi and is called > RKSHA sandhi(end of Kataka, Vrishchika, Meena) and any planet > placed here, is very badly weak in giving any good result. > To be frank, these points are the black holes of the zodiac, > and indicate SADYO MARANA or death immediately after birth!! > It is very interesting to note that these points exist near > the stars of Kethu, the Moksha Karaka! > > Very crudely, it may be said that a planet in rashi-sandhi > becomes 'homeless' just like the Rahu-Kethu! > > yours > KAD , "R Satish" > <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear Vir Van, > > I share your views. > > Astrologers have to follow a code of ethics,never ever to > discourage > > the persons who seek guidance astrologically. > > > > Statistically, mature astrologers feel in predictions 65% accuracy > > is generally achieved,I am aware this may create controversy.These > > staistics are achieved or a large span of time.We must recognise,we > > are as good as feel we are,every astrologer is first a human being, > > subject to same pressures,hence not at peak all the time. > > > > Astrology is indicative only ,not deterministic.How then we > > prophecise bad happenings, all because we read few books and quote > > chapter & verse.Experience is much more than that,it a lifetime.I > > heard recently a case of young man with Saturn around 0+,in > absolute > > infancy,enjoying wonderful career. > > > > This divine science needs to be treated with reverence. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vir Van <virvan2000> > > wrote: > > > Firstly, a planet is in the last degree at the time of > > > one's birth, signifies that native is very close to > > > master an important lesson of the universe, but still > > > has not quite achieved the success. It is only when > > > the lesson of that planet is mastered that one may > > > move on and progress spiritually and universally. > > > People with such a degree have a lesson to learn. This > > > planetary position signifies an urgent need to > > > channel the energy of that planet in right direction. > > > The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the > > > individual wants to grow and transcend spiritually. > > > Secondly, wise and truly learned astrologers take the > > > meaning of planets at such a degree and ENCOURAGE > > > people to push themselves in the directions of the > > > planet's characteristics; AND DONT SHOW THE HIGHWAY TO > > > DOOM AND GLOOM AS IF THERE IS NO TOMOROW.. > > > > > > Jai Gurudev! > > > > > > > > > --- v_kshemkalyani <v_kshemkalyani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > Please find herewith reply to your querry regarding > > > > any of the planet > > > > situated at 0' of any of 12 signs. I would try to > > > > explaint it in a > > > > much wider perspective i.e. any planet situated at > > > > either beyond > > > > 29.30.00 upto 00.00' of any of 12 signs deliveres > > > > most bad effects. > > > > Any planet situated within these degrees is > > > > definitely creates > > > > harmfull effects. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > v_kshemkalyani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "maniv1321" > > > > <maniv1321> > > > > wrote: > > > > > To learned Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone please explain the significance of a > > > > planet that is > > > > placed > > > > > in 0 degrees of a sign? > > > > > > > > > > For example Mars at 0 degrees Gemini, 1st house or > > > > Moon at 0 degrees > > > > > Virgo, 9th house? > > > > > > > > > > Is a plant that is placed as such > > > > weakened/strengthened and is it > > > > > assessed as being heavily influenced by the > > > > previous sign/house? > > > > > > > > > > Any comments on the above would much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > Maniv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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