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Jain Saheb,

 

Please do not take this as criticism but an attempt to further

thought on this very critically important topic (I have renamed the

thread to be something more appropriate presuming your permission

will be there). Indeed, gochar nirnaya as it is called is the

classical description seen where transits are considered from the

moon. Although since sudarshan chakra is also discussed/described, it

is implied that that should also reveal the movie of life as opposed

to just using the snapshot (birth chart). To that your element of

adding the dasha and antar lord also makes very good sense. In fact

if I recall, VK Choudhury of the Systems Approach also recommended

using the transit of the antara lord (pratyantar for north indian

astrologers [south: Dasha, bhukthi, anthara; North: Dasa, antardasa,

pratyantardasa]) which becomes a sensitive indicator. It is quite

possible that this was mentioned by one of his students but

definitely someone associated with the Systems Approach camp.

 

Students (mine and others) often come with a puzzled look on their

faces because they have so many options that it becomes overwhelming

for them to take all of that into account. Additionally, we are being

bombarded with even more dashas and ways of skinning the cat and the

hurriedly put together software does not help either as it often has

calculation errors so the serious student astrologer with limited

time on hand is really at a loss.

 

It is therefore crucial that individuals cooperate and carry out the

exploration together just like time-slicing has helped medical

research (screensavers stealing CPU time to carry out calculations

during the 'down' time).

 

I propose that someone start with one chart and take us through the

steps of testing these approaches and then we move to the next one

and so on. Unfortunately there is going to be some 'noise' as other

relevant and irrelevant information will get thrown into the work but

that is life.

 

Even if this is done, I am certain that not all approaches and

techniques will work all the time. This is a big mystery in

astrology. This less than 100% performance of the methods. However,

as I strongly believe in, this as well as remedials strongly

indicates to me, at least, a strong case for there being the role of

free-will in the final shaping of what we bring, what we work on and

what we bring forth in life.

 

RR

 

 

, "bskjain369"

<bskjain369> wrote:

>

> namaskaar,

> dear frends.

> clasical text support transist to be reckoned from chandra lagna

> bcoz chandra lagna indicates state of mind which in turn influences

> events. how ever as a reaserch we can correlate resultd from moon,

> asendent, and running dasha lord in natal charts( can include

> antardasha lord too for very short happenings or final timing.)

>

> it may initially can give confusing and negetive results but after

> practise surely may sharpen predictions fairely.

>

> even some nadi grantha give importence to see transit from karaka.

> when ketu transit natal satrun there will be disturbence in

> profession and health problems over jupiter. in naadi grantha

jupiter

> is consedered "jeeva" symbolysing karaka for life/longivity

>

> regards

>

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99> wrote:

> >

> > Dear kad rudra ji,

> > Thanx for the correction advised about the importance of 'moon

> position at the time of birth(janma rashi).certainly we can not

> ignore.In the words of late shri B.V.Raman "in predicting gochara

> results,the moon and the birth constellations play a prominent

> part".I mean only to avoid the study from the transittingmoon

> position.Birth time moon as per the chart of native has always

specil

> significance.I agree

> > As often my Teachers(Shri K.N.Rao and Justice Kapoor) suggest to

> super impose the gochara chart on natal chart for assessing results

> from all three lagnas(surya,chandra and lagna).At the cost of

> precision the Astrologers have always to moderate the outputs

> including Ashtakavarga and vedha points.Sure the Sawants of

Astrology

> take note and suggest to study taking into account position of moon

> at the time of birth but not moon chart(Rashi Chart of the transit

> results)

> >

> >

> > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote:

> > Dear Krishnan,

> >

> > Transit results or GOCHARA is NOT ALWAYS counted from Lagna.

> Chandra

> > Lagna or RASHI plays a vital role in gochara. In most of the

cases

> I

> > have seen, heard and learnt, Gochaara matters more from JANMA

RASHI

> > as in SAARDHA SAPTA (SADE SAATHI) of Saturn.

> >

> > As per whether charts can foretell that they can be of a would be

> > couple, THE ANSWER IS POSITIVE!!! The key point is the Navamsha

> > charts of the two. Hope you would have surely come across such

> cases.

> >

> > yours

> > KAD

> >

> >

> > , vattem krishnan

> > <bursar_99> wrote:

> > >

> > > hello

> > > Transit/gochara is always from lagna.better the chart is super

> > imposed for timing the evets.

> > > while in the case of girl and boy when matching is done no one

> can

> > predict they will only get married.

> > > the formality of matching horoscopes normally has to open after

> > boy and girl have some kind of positive views of their getting

> > married

> > > krishnan

> > > shriji002 <shriji002> wrote:

> > > hello all

> > >

> > > want to ask that for applying transit results does one look at

> > lagna

> > > chart or rashi chart or both.

> > > also my previous question:is it possible to predict (when a

girl

> > and

> > > boy's horoscopes is brought before an astrologer for matching)

> with

> > > certainty whether they will get married or not.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > shri

> > >

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