Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Angel ji, <<<I know a chart with SUN in aries and SATURN in Libra.>>> Lord of the 11th Uccha in the 7th links spouse with finance, and this area should prosper. Additionally, Raja Yoga Karaka is Uccha in Rasi. However, Sani, even when highly benefic, has a sting in his aspects - this could still lead to difficulties. Has the native passed througn Sani and/or Sukra Dasa/Bukti? Analyze the same and let us all know. Technically, UBDY can be said to exist in this chart. In the "popular" charts of Lord Rama, Sani, Surya, Kuja, and Guru are all Uccha. It is possible that the difficulties he underwent are because of UBDY! Of course, there is no way of verifying if the charts claimed to be that of Lord Rama's are actually His! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hi Balaji thanks for reply. the native has saturn as retrograde (along with being exalted) so will this UBD yoga be still valid ? he has jupiter also retrograde but placed in 7th house in rasi chart. Note that none of these planets are exalted in navmasa. But navmasa has moon and jupiter vargottam with moon placed in virgo AND jupiter in scorpio sign. the native has not passed through saturn mahadasa.i will see this aspect and come back later. thanks angel --- Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > Angel ji, > > <<<I know a chart with SUN in aries and SATURN in > Libra.>>> > > Lord of the 11th Uccha in the 7th links spouse with > finance, and > this area should prosper. Additionally, Raja Yoga > Karaka is > Uccha in Rasi. > > However, Sani, even when highly benefic, has a sting > in his > aspects - this could still lead to difficulties. > > Has the native passed througn Sani and/or Sukra > Dasa/Bukti? > Analyze the same and let us all know. > > Technically, UBDY can be said to exist in this > chart. > > In the "popular" charts of Lord Rama, Sani, Surya, > Kuja, and > Guru are all Uccha. It is possible that the > difficulties he > underwent are because of UBDY! Of course, there is > no way of > verifying if the charts claimed to be that of Lord > Rama's are > actually His! > > > ~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan * > http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex > Downs > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Click here to rescue a little child from a life of > poverty. > http://us.click./rAWabB/gYnLAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Angel ji, <<<the native has saturn as retrograde (along with being exalted) so will this UBD yoga be still valid ?>>> Well, if Neecha Vakra can give Neecha Bhanga, one could assume *logically* that Uccha Vakra is similar to Neecha! Of course, it is another matter if this logical inference is actually valid. Maybe, some of the other members could comment! <<<he has jupiter also retrograde but placed in 7th house in rasi chart.>>> Well, Guru for Tula is bad - lord of two malefic houses, the 6th and the 3rd. Again, as the 6th lord in the 7th, he has the capacity to damage some issues pertaining to the 7th. Is Guru combust? In this case, check out Surya's Buktis - since Surya tends to assume the significances of the graha he combusts, this could indicate some Guru-like issues. Also, Surya will behave like Guru to an extent because he owns the 11th, which, as per Bhavat Bhavam, is the 6th from the 6th. Of course, you will understand that since I have not had an opportunity to actually look at the chart overall, these suggestions could be way off the mark! <<<the native has not passed through saturn mahadasa.>>> What about the buktis of Sani? They too could give an idea about Sani's behaviour. ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Dear Balaji and Angel, There is no evidence that all exalted planets in mutual aspects result in UBDY. Sun and saturn are mutually enemical and tend to reduce each others powers. But, mars and jupiter are mutual allies and they enhance and compliment each other's powers. Venus, mercury, and moon cannot be in mutual aspect with any other exalted planet. So, they can be left out. The twelfth and sixth houses are houses of losses and even if the planets placed in them are exalted, the loss cannot be avoided. Such a native will not be totally daridra, but will loose whatever he earns by his own mistakes. Such follies of his are related to the twelfth and sixth houses, for example, burden of debt, overindulgence in luxuries and high expenses, investing in risky businesses like share trading, lottery, gambling, races, etc. Over all these, he can also have heightened desires for renunciaton, charity and sacrifice. Thus, the inability to hold on to his earnings, even though he has earned a lot of wealth, causes the UBDY. Yes, as Balaji has wisely mentioned, placement of other planets, like jupiter, and the dasha periods should be seen to correctly judge the impact of UBDY. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] - Balaji Narasimhan Tuesday, 25 October, 2005 13:55 Angel ji - Uccha Bhanga Daridra Yoga Angel ji, <<<I know a chart with SUN in aries and SATURN in Libra.>>> Lord of the 11th Uccha in the 7th links spouse with finance, and this area should prosper. Additionally, Raja Yoga Karaka is Uccha in Rasi. However, Sani, even when highly benefic, has a sting in his aspects - this could still lead to difficulties. Has the native passed througn Sani and/or Sukra Dasa/Bukti? Analyze the same and let us all know. Technically, UBDY can be said to exist in this chart. In the "popular" charts of Lord Rama, Sani, Surya, Kuja, and Guru are all Uccha. It is possible that the difficulties he underwent are because of UBDY! Of course, there is no way of verifying if the charts claimed to be that of Lord Rama's are actually His! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Dear Mr Bala ji, iam probably interceptin in the ongoing"UBD" discussion."UBDY can be said to exist in thischart". probably we refer to such situations only circumstance being experienced if attributable to such condition"like UBD"probably I feel we pick something from some where and try to see(i mean apply) to a condition may be saturn is exalted retrograde,simulataneously sun is retrograde etc.How far we are relevant.i feel that cause and effect situations ahve to be more worthy and give labels to the situations without caring to know circumstances clearly and reasons attributable to such conditions,be it dasa,yoga,state of planet,position of palnet etc. Really i want to know your views and to educate myself. with all best wishes krishnan angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Balaji thanks for reply. the native has saturn as retrograde (along with being exalted) so will this UBD yoga be still valid ? he has jupiter also retrograde but placed in 7th house in rasi chart. Note that none of these planets are exalted in navmasa. But navmasa has moon and jupiter vargottam with moon placed in virgo AND jupiter in scorpio sign. the native has not passed through saturn mahadasa.i will see this aspect and come back later. thanks angel --- Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > Angel ji, > > <<<I know a chart with SUN in aries and SATURN in > Libra.>>> > > Lord of the 11th Uccha in the 7th links spouse with > finance, and > this area should prosper. Additionally, Raja Yoga > Karaka is > Uccha in Rasi. > > However, Sani, even when highly benefic, has a sting > in his > aspects - this could still lead to difficulties. > > Has the native passed througn Sani and/or Sukra > Dasa/Bukti? > Analyze the same and let us all know. > > Technically, UBDY can be said to exist in this > chart. > > In the "popular" charts of Lord Rama, Sani, Surya, > Kuja, and > Guru are all Uccha. It is possible that the > difficulties he > underwent are because of UBDY! Of course, there is > no way of > verifying if the charts claimed to be that of Lord > Rama's are > actually His! > > > ~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan * > http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex > Downs > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Click here to rescue a little child from a life of > poverty. > http://us.click./rAWabB/gYnLAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 May be it is proper i add that one of my friend and well learned prof often tell me and jsutice kappor that "my son has pancha mahapursusha yoga in his natal chart.Ofcourse he says that he is aware of palnetary implications but wants confirmation from my Guru and mentor justice kapoor. my Guru smiles and says destiny is decipherable to the extent of 30% and some 20% has to be coming through individual and rest through dasas contribuing 20% and the gochara remaining .it is not enough we christen labels for combinations for planets on technical and nontechnical perspective.As great Bhasin saheb said in his book the art of prediction is something away from all these and Shri k.N.rao doyen of Modern Astrology cautions all budding astrologers conveys through his books in risks and tricks in Astrological Predictions.Let's be very loking to providence for happaening un happenings krishnan astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: Dear Balaji and Angel, There is no evidence that all exalted planets in mutual aspects result in UBDY. Sun and saturn are mutually enemical and tend to reduce each others powers. But, mars and jupiter are mutual allies and they enhance and compliment each other's powers. Venus, mercury, and moon cannot be in mutual aspect with any other exalted planet. So, they can be left out. The twelfth and sixth houses are houses of losses and even if the planets placed in them are exalted, the loss cannot be avoided. Such a native will not be totally daridra, but will loose whatever he earns by his own mistakes. Such follies of his are related to the twelfth and sixth houses, for example, burden of debt, overindulgence in luxuries and high expenses, investing in risky businesses like share trading, lottery, gambling, races, etc. Over all these, he can also have heightened desires for renunciaton, charity and sacrifice. Thus, the inability to hold on to his earnings, even though he has earned a lot of wealth, causes the UBDY. Yes, as Balaji has wisely mentioned, placement of other planets, like jupiter, and the dasha periods should be seen to correctly judge the impact of UBDY. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] - Balaji Narasimhan Tuesday, 25 October, 2005 13:55 Angel ji - Uccha Bhanga Daridra Yoga Angel ji, <<<I know a chart with SUN in aries and SATURN in Libra.>>> Lord of the 11th Uccha in the 7th links spouse with finance, and this area should prosper. Additionally, Raja Yoga Karaka is Uccha in Rasi. However, Sani, even when highly benefic, has a sting in his aspects - this could still lead to difficulties. Has the native passed througn Sani and/or Sukra Dasa/Bukti? Analyze the same and let us all know. Technically, UBDY can be said to exist in this chart. In the "popular" charts of Lord Rama, Sani, Surya, Kuja, and Guru are all Uccha. It is possible that the difficulties he underwent are because of UBDY! Of course, there is no way of verifying if the charts claimed to be that of Lord Rama's are actually His! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. a.. Visit your group "" on the web. b.. c.. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Dear Balaji Personally I enjoy reading your emails on this forum. My feeling in this matter on retrograde planets is that when a planet is retrograde it becomes more powerful. Its speed "chesta" becomes more and the planet grows "younger". Hence it gives very powerful results (either for good or bad depending on the state and position of the planet in the chart). I don't think retrograde neecha planet acts like uccha (and vice versa). It simply makes the planet more powerful and as a consequence, it gives unusual results. Saturn itself is a slow moving planet. The fact that Saturn is retrograde can give some startling results pertaining to the house that he is located in. That is my feeling on the retrograde issue. Regarding Guru, for Tula lagna, it is true that he is the lord of two malefic houses (3rd and 6th). However Bhavartha Ratnakar teachings say that that despite being lord of two malefic houses, Guru is a benefic for Tula lagna. This is an exception to the general rule. Why ? Reason being that the 3rd and 6th are upachayas (houses of growth). As life continues a person grows wiser and Guru is an indicator for wisdom. Again the 3rd house is 10th from 6th house. And the sixth is 9th from 10th house. This peculiar position of the two houses may explain the exception to the general rule for Guru and Tula lagna. This matter is dealt with in detail in Dr. Chawdry's book titled "Fascinating Jupiter". Please comment if possible. Regards Deepak , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote: > > Angel ji, > > <<<the native has saturn as retrograde (along with being > exalted) so will this UBD yoga be still valid ?>>> > > Well, if Neecha Vakra can give Neecha Bhanga, one could assume > *logically* that Uccha Vakra is similar to Neecha! Of course, it > is another matter if this logical inference is actually valid. > Maybe, some of the other members could comment! > > <<<he has jupiter also retrograde but placed in 7th house in > rasi chart.>>> > > Well, Guru for Tula is bad - lord of two malefic houses, the 6th > and the 3rd. Again, as the 6th lord in the 7th, he has the > capacity to damage some issues pertaining to the 7th. > > Is Guru combust? In this case, check out Surya's Buktis - since > Surya tends to assume the significances of the graha he > combusts, this could indicate some Guru-like issues. Also, Surya > will behave like Guru to an extent because he owns the 11th, > which, as per Bhavat Bhavam, is the 6th from the 6th. > > Of course, you will understand that since I have not had an > opportunity to actually look at the chart overall, these > suggestions could be way off the mark! > > <<<the native has not passed through saturn mahadasa.>>> > > What about the buktis of Sani? They too could give an idea about > Sani's behaviour. > > > ~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunds Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 But still it is not clear if a Uchha planet, retrogate gives a Neecha effect. Someone clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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