Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Dear Learned Gurus, I request you to please tell me whether i was under vashikaran at any point of time in my life. dob: 17th sept 1971; tob: 9:25 am, pob: kakinada, a.p. if there is a paid service, i would like to know since i want to know the following: whether i was under vashikaran? if so, when and for what and by whom and until when. i want the same service for my wife also. i'm asking this so many times since we have been told so many things by so many astrologers and clairvoyants (not on this forum ofcourse) about this and i wanted a confirmation. surya vishnu <surya_prakashvi wrote: Good post. I completely agree that vasikaran need not be negative or even esoteric attribute. There are only some good and some bad ways of achieving it .... Just as an aside, I think if one directs ones energy to oneself then automatically he becomes a focal point of being able to charm people by increasing his potency ... in other words vasikaran of self is probably the best way to even entice others ... (Maybe this is what we shud advice all men/women wanting to charm their loved ones, to first work on themselves) In most of our yogic literature, thoughts are elevated to the status of living entities. I was coming from that point of view in my earlier post .. the potency of thoughts surely has a telling effect wherever they are directed .. by potency I mean: a) Ability to be single minded abotu the thought .. b) Ability to totally dissociate from the result or outcome of whatever it is directed at .. Coming to think of it, what is the condition in which a person can get attached to someone else to the extent of being charmed: a) When the person feels that the other person is superior to him in some or the other way and might add to his existance in a positive manner (delving from fear to security), this leads to respect, and willingness to be disciplined for the person involved .. Now what ways can one be superior to other? one or combination of the below factors (I sometimes muse that now for humans "the survival of the fittest" translates to these parameters, some to a greater and some to a lesser extent) a) Power (spiritual/material/legacy/authority) - apart from horoscope specific plusses I would attribute this to a great extent to Jup/Sat b) Beauty/charisma - apart from horoscopic peculiarities Venus has a hand in this c) Strength/agression - again apart from horoscopic peculiarities Mars has some say in this d) Knowledge/intelligence - Mercury Jupiter and Moon I suppose e) Money - Depends on horoscope d) Ability to delude - Rahu and ketu and Mercury (with words and twisted arguments) should be stock holders here .. These parameters tilt the evolution scale between the two fundamental drives in humans fear/love and translate to security .. which is somethng that people are willing to subjugate themselves to ... Can these be our parameters to judge the horoscopes of rich and famous??? Just exploring .. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Dear Shri Surya Vishnu ji, We have very classic example of vasikaran,if we do not attribute good or bad to the phenomenon.vasikkaran is a natural way of surrendering or getting surrendered or being able to make one surrender to the other(may be an object/person).In fact Lord krishna through his "leelas"used to attract many Gopikas to him.All these young and old females surrendered to the lord krishna.So there should not be any doubt about it'as "the law of the nature".In fact the usual form of worship and prayers or invoking the pirit or God by way of" that anything to which you divert your attention gets energy .."may be partially as Sri Surya said "it can be trnsferrence energy from one to another? Some times we also find a state of "sublimity"arising and becoming spell bound by way speech less or action less personality.No doubt this is the ability of vasikaran.The mystery however rovolves around it's form and methods.questions always plague:Is it natural?can any body induce to the state of(vasikaran)?if by force,how the cognisance,a natural endowment get lost?Like thi so many questions that remain unanswered.Then the question also come is it a process involving "transferance of energy" let's for the sake of discussion ,the phenomenon can also be invoked by way of mantras and tantras.while saying so we are only trying a kind of equilibrium normally exists in a humanbeing(not necssary also,as animals too can be) can also be distrubed/induced through various forms of mantras and tantras apart from natural way. iam sure we do not really bring in chemical substances into our discussions as it is a of "anaesthatesia "form and is also meaningless to refer to it as part of explorartion on the topic. Evidence in Nature of this vasikiran exists and is already induced/performed through an "aura" by Gods as well as great men in which they have attracted people in tens and hundreds to the speeches and actions.people then and there were given a feeling of spellboundness.As R.R referred to Swamy Vivekananda,Mahatma Gandhi and today we all see around Swamy Ramdev Maharaj able to attract people and induce to paranayama and able to bring self cure of dreaded diseases through yoga and ofcourse through some herbs(ayurveda) So let's agree as vasikaran is not mystery and is the ability of a person to induce it with or without a purpose. Mantras and tantras can also be employed to bring in vasikaran.Even otherwise every one of us carry an "aura" which some times attarcts to other people.In the process our looks,actions and speeches too matter.Through these forms we are able to make other's convince and convey certain things.Vasikaran as such is not a negative feature and it's existence is beyond any doubt.we have lot people around including :Peter Drucker who could theorise"on management principles for nearly five decades can be considered as examples. krishnan surya vishnu <surya_prakashvi wrote: All this aside .. I sometimes find it very entrhalling to understand the principles that underlie something like vashi karan .. or any kind of tantras as such .. Just a few leads ... most of these practices have a few standard elements some of the elements being optional: a) a Image or a representation of the person involved .. b) a idea or desire clearly defined. c) a spiritual aide to act as a catalyst then the process involves repeatedly intensifying the this idea upon the image with the help of the aide .. The dangerous part comes when you choose mantras that involve first doing vasikaran on the spiritual aide involved and then proceeding to use it to bring about the effect on the person involved .. This because, the aide once invoked is bound to give the result that is sought by the power of the mantra and has no choice (some tantriks hence believe that mantra is greater than the god that presides it) ... the point being that if the mantra is not done correctly or if its left midway then the diety simply hits back from this "no choice" situation which is a dangerous business ... However the first two parts are still harmless except that they eat your time .... Its the law of the nature that anything to which you divert your attention gets energy .. if you for example divert your attention in all earnestness in wanting to earn a lot of money chances are that you will end up doing it in time .... this is a very potent principle that can be used in our own lives (a la deepak chopraish idea I suppose - purely however my inference) the image of the person involved is not necessarily a picture or nails or hair and such stuff .. it can also be a mental image you create ... and then after sufficiently visualising the person you can every day daydream (preferably going to alpha wave region of mind - lucid dreaming kinds) of happy situations with them ... this done for 1/2 hr every day has a telling effect over a period of time ... and this is mostly harmless .. I firmly believe that effective utilization of the inner space helps you stay connected to the entire rest of the creation ... the wise advise always remains the same "never harm and never be harmed" Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: Dear Parulji, At the outset, my sincere apologies for proffering this unsolicited & "non-astrological" advice. First of all there is "no good form of vashikaran", and to practice such stuff, you have to really be totally immersed into it; for a worldy person like you amd me, it can be fairly dangerous. Now the second thing is that if you want to increase your sway over your husband, you need not resort to vashikaran; instead you should try to hold your sway over him with the help of love, compassion and empathy. This strategy may fetch results a wee bit late, but the outcome of this strategy would definitely be positive. Please don't even think about doing vashikaran over your husband (for that matter on anybody); hope you would see reason into it... Take care Manoj Sharma --- parul sharma <booxer999 wrote: > can i do some good form of vashikarn,so that my > husband listens to me and we have peace in life... > and how can we get rid of blackmagic...does praying > regularly and going to holy place help. > > rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote: > Mr. Nameless, > > Whatever gave you the impression that I am and > expert in this area or > doing R&D (research and development -- I hope you > did not mean > something else by R&D) on vashikaran? If so, would I > be asking people > for examples and illustrations? > > That said, I would be interested in knowing if you > have something > interesting or concrete to say about the topic, or > any relevant > experience you have really had -- though. > > Thanks > > RR > > , GodIsWithin > GodIsWithin > <god_is_with_in> wrote: > > > > RR jee, > > If you want to do some R & D, try on me. Whether > I suffered a > vashikaran spell in the last 8 years and if so, who > was responsible. > > dob: 17th sept 1971, pob: kakinada, tob: 9:25 am > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Panditji, > > > > I appreciate your kind offer. I certainly would > not feel happy if > you > > have to go through too much extra work for this, > and there is no > > rush -- please take your time. Absolutely -- names > are not > necessary - > > - gender, age at which the incident happened, type > of symptoms, > > manifestations and age at which exorcism took > place and the usual > > birthdata would be great. If available, one or two > full dates of > > events such as childbirth and marriage would be > welcome but not > > essential. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Rohini > > > > , arjun > pandit > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend ranjan ji > > > > > > unfortunately i do not have a computer and hence > no databank. > > however, i do have birth details of several people > who got > possessed > > by evils and were exorcised by me. i also have a > few birth details > > of those natives who lost their lives due to this > evil. however, i > > need to dig these details from the manual papers i > have with me, > > which will take some time. > > > > > > i personally feel that in such matters, the name > of the affected > > person shall be kept confidential and hence i will > share only the > > birth details. > > > > > > with best wishes and regards > > > arjun > > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > > > I am definitely not a rationalist, so please do > not take this > > posting > > > as an expression in that vein. > > > > > > I am truly curious about this topic. If your > good self (or > others) > > > would be so kind, please post brief accounts of > a few instances > of > > > such vashikaran that you have directly seen or > personally > > experienced > > > (not heard about anecdotally) and 'soney mein > suhaaga', if you > > > managed to collect the birthdata of the > vashibhoot and the > > > vashikarak -- and would be willing to share, > then please post > > those. > > > Given the extreme delicacy and sensitivity of > this topic, I would > > > gratefully appreciate even if you can just give > the rashi > positions > > > of the planets and the lagna degree (please > specify ayanamsha > used) > > > and maybe the nakshatra and charan of chandra > and ketu of these > > > individuals. > > > > > > Thanks and hope I am not inconveniencing you > with this intrusion. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > , > "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > there are several vashikaran mantras just by > recital of which, > > one > > > > can have another person under a spell or > charm. these mantras > > have > > > > reference in the main four VEDAS, several > upanishads and > puranas > > as > > > > well. there are several mantras to cast spell > or charm on > others > > > for > > > > varius types of positive or negative results > which all emanate > > from > > > > these sacred texts. if any rationalist wish > to have me > > corroborate > > > > this with the sources from the proper VEDAS, i > can do so. > > > > > > > > besides the above mantric way, even through > tantra also one can > > do > > > > wonders. but, unfortunately, in the present > world around 99% > of > > > > tantriks have no knowledge and they are neo, > pseudo or no > > tantriks > > > at > > > > all. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > vattem krishnan > > > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There are many types of vasikaran.it is like > hypnotising a > > > > person.the person almost a vegetative > structures and ready obey > > the > > > > master when orders were given.what he sees > externally is > > different > > > > from what he perceives.sometimes the motor > actor activity of > the > > > > nerves and muscles can be arrested.There are > many ways in which > > > > vasikiran is can be performed:By:Tantras as > well as mantras > > > > > This altogether a different kind of sastra > and in ancient > > > times,the > === message truncated === Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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