Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gurus and Learned Members While reading few books on Ashtaka Varga, I have come accors few authors opine that the Ashtaka Varga should be calculated from the Bhava chart rather than the Rasi Chart. I would like to request you to take the following example and guide me, whether it is a good idea to calculate Ashtkavarga from Bhava chart is more meaningful or not? Here I am not arguing and taking any one side of either Bhava Chart base is better and Rasi chart based calculations are not correct, rather presenting my thought and requesting you to clarify my doubt and guide me accordingly. As we know, on an average every sign rises for about 2 hours. Let us take an example to go over my doubt. Suppose Native "X" is born when the Lagna is in 1 deg of a sign and Native "Y" is born with a Lagna of 29 deg of the same sign. We can see the time difference between these two native are about 1 hour and 50 min (approximately). So for these two natives, the lagna's and the planets remain in the same signs resulting the AsktakaVarga charts and calculations will be same too. So the question comes to my mind is : will the events experienced by Native X and Y be the same ? If not, then the AsktakaVarga calculated on the basis of the Rashi Chart is not appropriate. Is it not ? So may I request you to please throw some light on the above and guide me so that my study will be in the right direction on this area of AshtakaVarga. I know, many of us will be travelling during the thanks giving holidays (including me), so keep the knowledge flowing in this thread, so that when I come back next week, I will try to read the discussion and learn from you all. Thanks for your help in clearing my doubt in advance. Regards Raghunatha Rao FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Dear Shri Raghunatha rao garu, Ashtaka varga as a mater of principle is only to find how planets during transition influence various bhavs and give results. 2.Deriving Ashtaka varga calculation with reference to Rasi is most important as lagna and all other seven planets with reference to:Lagna,Sun and moon give results .Where as bhava chart otherwise also known as chalit is only a hypothetical state to check strength of a bhava,dpending on degrees a planet yet to traverse in a sign. 3.I was just reading an article on graded strength of planets.Planets when strong/debilitation(ownhouse,exaltation/debilitation,aspect,conjunctionetc0do not simply the house/sign rerred but influnce three sign/house(a swing from wea to strong or viceveras) considering the middle one is strongest/weakest and the two adjcent houses/sign have graded strength.As a result chalit/Bhava chart is only for Astrologers interpretational purpose.Assigning Ashtakavarga points as per bhava chart to plants has no more bearing than any specific purpose. 4.As I said for studying Gochara results,we need to base our study either on moon or rasi chart and as some say lagna too and there is no other 3rd dimension whaich was accepted in classis nor proved otherwise.Ashtakavarga calculations will help for better understanding when we derive from accepted ways like lagna or moon but not Bhava chart. krishnan with regards Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gurus and Learned Members While reading few books on Ashtaka Varga, I have come accors few authors opine that the Ashtaka Varga should be calculated from the Bhava chart rather than the Rasi Chart. I would like to request you to take the following example and guide me, whether it is a good idea to calculate Ashtkavarga from Bhava chart is more meaningful or not? Here I am not arguing and taking any one side of either Bhava Chart base is better and Rasi chart based calculations are not correct, rather presenting my thought and requesting you to clarify my doubt and guide me accordingly. As we know, on an average every sign rises for about 2 hours. Let us take an example to go over my doubt. Suppose Native "X" is born when the Lagna is in 1 deg of a sign and Native "Y" is born with a Lagna of 29 deg of the same sign. We can see the time difference between these two native are about 1 hour and 50 min (approximately). So for these two natives, the lagna's and the planets remain in the same signs resulting the AsktakaVarga charts and calculations will be same too. So the question comes to my mind is : will the events experienced by Native X and Y be the same ? If not, then the AsktakaVarga calculated on the basis of the Rashi Chart is not appropriate. Is it not ? So may I request you to please throw some light on the above and guide me so that my study will be in the right direction on this area of AshtakaVarga. I know, many of us will be travelling during the thanks giving holidays (including me), so keep the knowledge flowing in this thread, so that when I come back next week, I will try to read the discussion and learn from you all. Thanks for your help in clearing my doubt in advance. Regards Raghunatha Rao FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Respected Rao saheb, The most authentic classic on ashtak varg is a book by Patel & Iyyer. The book insists that the ashtak varg should be calculated according to Bhav and not Rasi. Bhav is the most logical method to distinguish between the births within the same Lagna period of two hours. With naman to all gurujan Varun Trivedi , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Shri Raghunatha rao garu, > Ashtaka varga as a mater of principle is only to find how planets during transition influence various bhavs and give results. > 2.Deriving Ashtaka varga calculation with reference to Rasi is most important as lagna and all other seven planets with reference to:Lagna,Sun and moon give results .Where as bhava chart otherwise also known as chalit is only a hypothetical state to check strength of a bhava,dpending on degrees a planet yet to traverse in a sign. > 3.I was just reading an article on graded strength of planets.Planets when strong/debilitation (ownhouse,exaltation/debilitation,aspect,conjunctionetc0do not simply the house/sign rerred but influnce three sign/house(a swing from wea to strong or viceveras) considering the middle one is strongest/weakest and the two adjcent houses/sign have graded strength.As a result chalit/Bhava chart is only for Astrologers interpretational purpose.Assigning Ashtakavarga points as per bhava chart to plants has no more bearing than any specific purpose. > 4.As I said for studying Gochara results,we need to base our study either on moon or rasi chart and as some say lagna too and there is no other 3rd dimension whaich was accepted in classis nor proved otherwise.Ashtakavarga calculations will help for better understanding when we derive from accepted ways like lagna or moon but not Bhava chart. > krishnan > with regards > > Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members > > While reading few books on Ashtaka Varga, I have come accors few authors opine that the Ashtaka Varga should be calculated from the Bhava chart rather than the Rasi Chart. > > I would like to request you to take the following example and guide me, whether it is a good idea to calculate Ashtkavarga from Bhava chart is more meaningful or not? > > Here I am not arguing and taking any one side of either Bhava Chart base is better and Rasi chart based calculations are not correct, rather presenting my thought and requesting you to clarify my doubt and guide me accordingly. > > As we know, on an average every sign rises for about 2 hours. Let us take an example to go over my doubt. > > Suppose Native "X" is born when the Lagna is in 1 deg of a sign and Native "Y" is born with a Lagna of 29 deg of the same sign. We can see the time difference between these two native are about 1 hour and 50 min (approximately). > > So for these two natives, the lagna's and the planets remain in the same signs resulting the AsktakaVarga charts and calculations will be same too. > > So the question comes to my mind is : will the events experienced by Native X and Y be the same ? If not, then the AsktakaVarga calculated on the basis of the Rashi Chart is not appropriate. Is it not ? > > So may I request you to please throw some light on the above and guide me so that my study will be in the right direction on this area of AshtakaVarga. > > I know, many of us will be travelling during the thanks giving holidays (including me), so keep the knowledge flowing in this thread, so that when I come back next week, I will try to read the discussion and learn from you all. > > Thanks for your help in clearing my doubt in advance. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Hindu astrology Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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