Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in them is inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, Saturn etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all three houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and obstacles or may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear more on this please. adv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 HI dave , i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th house , i have acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives a lot of expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can call a womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental health , and feels always lonely pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me and i am writting 10th march 1974 bombay 06:30am morning On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju wrote: > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in them is > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, Saturn > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all three > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and obstacles or > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear more on > this please. > adv > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 dear friends even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded dusthana one cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is bad. eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own significance in a native's spiritual journey. saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, eight and twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak for sixth house. Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in my own chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in doing so. each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like each organ of a body having its own use and importance. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > HI dave , > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th house , i have > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives a lot of > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can call a > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental health , and > feels always lonely > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me and i am > writting > > 10th march 1974 > bombay 06:30am morning > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in them is > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, Saturn > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all three > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and obstacles or > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear more on > > this please. > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , Pranam , I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u explain that when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey expenses , bed happiness , and sexual inclination then sir how can it have some spiritual impact the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very much pious , and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part 10th march 1974 bombay 06:30am morning Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic regards Prashant On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded dusthana one > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is bad. > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, eight and > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak for sixth > house. > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in my own > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in doing > so. > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like each > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Doshi > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > HI dave , > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th house , > i have > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives a > lot of > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can > call a > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental > health , and > > feels always lonely > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me and i > am > > writting > > > > 10th march 1974 > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in them > is > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, Saturn > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all three > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > obstacles or > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear > more on > > > this please. > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 dear friend prashant let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market movement, some shares move the index up and some shares move the index down. even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but their pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is green in positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but the net result is something one shall predict only after analysing all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on planets. but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change the movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great sages who too have a venus in their charts. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > Pranam , > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u explain that > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey expenses , bed > happiness , and sexual inclination > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very much pious , > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > 10th march 1974 > bombay > 06:30am morning > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > regards > > Prashant > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded dusthana one > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is bad. > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, eight and > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak for sixth > > house. > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in my own > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in doing > > so. > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like each > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th house , > > i have > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives a > > lot of > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can > > call a > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental > > health , and > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me and i > > am > > > writting > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in them > > is > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, Saturn > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all three > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > obstacles or > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear > > more on > > > > this please. > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun Ji Pranam lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a million , but sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u dont mind thanking you Regards Prashu On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend prashant > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market movement, > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index down. > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but their > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is green in > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > the net result is something one shall predict only after analysing > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on planets. > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change the > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Doshi > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > Pranam , > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > explain that > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey expenses , > bed > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > much pious , > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > bombay > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > regards > > > > Prashant > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded dusthana one > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is bad. > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, eight > and > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak for > sixth > > > house. > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in my > own > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > doing > > > so. > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like each > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > house , > > > i have > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives > a > > > lot of > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can > > > call a > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental > > > health , and > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me > and i > > > am > > > > writting > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in > them > > > is > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > Saturn > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all > three > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > obstacles or > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear > > > more on > > > > > this please. > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > RELISH THE > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 dear friend prashant please ask all your queries but addressed to group only. i am only one of the many members who answer here. there are more knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this group from whom i too learn a point or two. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > Pranam > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a million , but > sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u dont mind > > > thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market movement, > > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index down. > > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but their > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is green in > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > > the net result is something one shall predict only after analysing > > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on planets. > > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change the > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > > explain that > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey expenses , > > bed > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > > much pious , > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > bombay > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded dusthana one > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is bad. > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, eight > > and > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak for > > sixth > > > > house. > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in my > > own > > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > > doing > > > > so. > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like each > > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > > house , > > > > i have > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 gives > > a > > > > lot of > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u can > > > > call a > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect tomental > > > > health , and > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in me > > and i > > > > am > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet in > > them > > > > is > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > Saturn > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in all > > three > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to hear > > > > more on > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, Pranam, What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have tryed to understand this many times before , but i end up getting confused with the effect , Lets take an example lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th house , and 5th lord (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that there is parivartan yoga exsist. Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , and 5th house has sat and ketu ,in this scenario , 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has Sun in the Saturn house , 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna with Jup , and Sun 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as Saturn in lagna is considered very strong 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would that combination mean 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say virtual mercury so ketu will act as mercury or Saturn ??? My point is that this parivartan is active or not , secondly ,sun and sat in Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis how powerful this yoga will be??? Pls have a look at this for ref 10th march 1974 Bombay 06:30am Morning Thanking you Regards Prashu On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend prashant > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group only. i am only > one of the many members who answer here. there are more > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this group from whom i > too learn a point or two. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Doshi > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > Pranam > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a > million , but > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u > dont mind > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market > movement, > > > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index > down. > > > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but > their > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is > green in > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > > > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > > > the net result is something one shall predict only after > analysing > > > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on > planets. > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change > the > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > > > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > > > explain that > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey > expenses , > > > bed > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > > > much pious , > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > bombay > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded > dusthana one > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is > bad. > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, > eight > > > and > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak > for > > > sixth > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in > my > > > own > > > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > > > doing > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like > each > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > > > house , > > > > > i have > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 > gives > > > a > > > > > lot of > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u > can > > > > > call a > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect > tomental > > > > > health , and > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in > me > > > and i > > > > > am > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet > in > > > them > > > > > is > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > Saturn > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in > all > > > three > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to > hear > > > > > more on > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > AND > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > RELISH THE > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Doshi ji, In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any outstanding person has always a very good 8th house due to which he must have come into lime light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this house known as secret house is fathomless krishnan Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, Pranam, What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have tryed to understand this many times before , but i end up getting confused with the effect , Lets take an example lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th house , and 5th lord (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that there is parivartan yoga exsist. Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , and 5th house has sat and ketu ,in this scenario , 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has Sun in the Saturn house , 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna with Jup , and Sun 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as Saturn in lagna is considered very strong 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would that combination mean 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say virtual mercury so ketu will act as mercury or Saturn ??? My point is that this parivartan is active or not , secondly ,sun and sat in Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis how powerful this yoga will be??? Pls have a look at this for ref 10th march 1974 Bombay 06:30am Morning Thanking you Regards Prashu On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend prashant > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group only. i am only > one of the many members who answer here. there are more > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this group from whom i > too learn a point or two. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Doshi > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > Pranam > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a > million , but > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u > dont mind > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market > movement, > > > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index > down. > > > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but > their > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is > green in > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > > > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > > > the net result is something one shall predict only after > analysing > > > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on > planets. > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change > the > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > > > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > > > explain that > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey > expenses , > > > bed > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > > > much pious , > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > bombay > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded > dusthana one > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is > bad. > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, > eight > > > and > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak > for > > > sixth > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in > my > > > own > > > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > > > doing > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like > each > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > > > house , > > > > > i have > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 > gives > > > a > > > > > lot of > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u > can > > > > > call a > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect > tomental > > > > > health , and > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in > me > > > and i > > > > > am > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet > in > > > them > > > > > is > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > Saturn > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in > all > > > three > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to > hear > > > > > more on > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > AND > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > RELISH THE > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Links > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hi all, This discussion about the 8th house being the dreaded is scaring the crap out of me ... i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the 7th - leo) ... what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? POB: Cuttack, Orissa TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 thanks in advance. my namaskarams to all, vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > outstanding person has always a very good 8th house > due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this > house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > tryed to understand this > many times before , but i end up getting confused > with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th > house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , > and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna > with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would > that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , > secondly ,sun and sat in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis > how powerful this yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group > only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there > are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant > Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on > go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so > clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares > move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of > the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate > negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening > simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict > only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single > handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in > my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there > is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , > but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in > these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas > and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th > and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its > own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and > venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving > ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good > with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is > what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > rare. I would like to > > hear > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in > hardcover > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Vijaya ji befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including research karna chahati hai tho padhna. you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the doubts including introspection particularly of health will often bother you krishnan Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: Hi all, This discussion about the 8th house being the dreaded is scaring the crap out of me ... i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the 7th - leo) ... what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? POB: Cuttack, Orissa TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 thanks in advance. my namaskarams to all, vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > outstanding person has always a very good 8th house > due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this > house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > tryed to understand this > many times before , but i end up getting confused > with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th > house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , > and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna > with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would > that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , > secondly ,sun and sat in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis > how powerful this yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group > only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there > are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant > Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on > go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so > clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares > move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of > the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate > negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening > simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict > only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single > handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in > my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there > is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , > but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in > these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas > and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th > and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its > own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and > venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving > ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good > with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is > what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > rare. I would like to > > hear > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in > hardcover > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hello Krishnan ji, Pranam , Ok check this horoscope , in this horoscope the ither house has Sun and Venus , and sun is in this own house , what does this indicate , ??? after studing this horoscope , though it has moon and mer in the 9th which is considered as very very goood , but sun and venus is confusing me ??? 8th sept 1975 5:30pm eVENING Bombay Also tell me Eight is so imp and it is considered as house of secrets , then why is it that we call dusthana place or neech house???? thanking you Regards Prashu On 1/20/06, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any outstanding person has always > a very good 8th house due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get defamed and destroyed > 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around it like 6th becomes 12th > to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse 8th first by considering > it as lagna.otherwise this house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have tryed to understand > this > many times before , but i end up getting confused with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , secondly ,sun and sat > in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis how powerful this > yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. I would like to > > hear > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Vattem Krishnanji, Thank you very much for your reassurance. I have two other questions. Please answer it only if you have time as there may be more important problems to address for others. Here's what I wanted to know: 1. I have Mars & Venus in the 7th house (leo). What are the implications of this? Late marriage? No marriage? What sins should I have committed in previous lives to have got this unfavorable 7th house presence? I certainly don't want to commit those sins again! 2. I have frequent mood swings. During some parts of the day, I am upbeat about life while during other parts I am full of sadness and depression over the meaningless and stupid materialistic life I am trying to lead. I sometimes consider spending more time in spirituality. But during other times the material world seems very attractive. So I am neither in the material world fully nor am I in the spiritual plane completely. I am lost in the midland where there is only mental anguish and emotional suffering. While I have many people around me, I am rather alone. Nobody can understand the inner workings of my mind. There is no one to who can understand me. This is turning out to be quite painful. I have been enduring this pain for nearly 5 years now. What astrological signatures are responsible for this? Is there any remedy for this mental suffering I am enduring? Vattemji, thank you once again for your prompt response. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Arjun Panditji, Ashutoshji, and others who have helped me in the recent past. I am not saying this so that all of you will continue to respond to my queries. I am truly grateful for the help you have all rendered to me. Thank you so much, Vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Vijaya ji > befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including > research karna chahati hai tho padhna. > you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign > nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the > doubts including introspection particularly of > health will often bother you > krishnan > Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: > Hi all, > > This discussion about the 8th house being the > dreaded > is scaring the crap out of me ... > > i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) > in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the > 7th - leo) ... > > what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? > > POB: Cuttack, Orissa > TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 > > thanks in advance. > > my namaskarams to all, > > vijay > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > > Dear Doshi ji, > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > > outstanding person has always a very good 8th > house > > due to which he must have come into lime > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also > get > > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house > around > > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes > 2nd > > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise > this > > house known as secret house is fathomless > > krishnan > > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > > > Pranam, > > > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > > tryed to understand this > > many times before , but i end up getting confused > > with the effect , > > > > Lets take an example > > > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in > 5th > > house , and 5th lord > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > > there is parivartan yoga > > exsist. > > > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna > , > > and 5th house has sat > > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > > Sun in the Saturn house > > , > > > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the > lagna > > with Jup , and Sun > > > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > > Saturn in lagna is > > considered very strong > > > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what > would > > that combination mean > > > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > > virtual mercury so ketu > > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not > , > > secondly ,sun and sat in > > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third > iis > > how powerful this yoga > > will be??? > > > > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > > > 10th march 1974 > > Bombay > > 06:30am Morning > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to > group > > only. i am only > > > one of the many members who answer here. there > > are more > > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > > group from whom i > > > too learn a point or two. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , > Prashant > > Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in > on > > go , thanks a > > > million , but > > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not > so > > clear to me if u > > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > > stock market > > > movement, > > > > > some shares move the index up and some > shares > > move the index > > > down. > > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > > are falling but > > > their > > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > > other stronger shares > > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result > of > > the index is > > > green in > > > > > positive. similarly some planets may > indicate > > negatives and some > > > > > positives. all results are true and > happening > > simultaneously but > > > > > the net result is something one shall > predict > > only after > > > analysing > > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > > and individual scrip > > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > > astrologer on > > > planets. > > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can > single > > handedly change > > > the > > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > > impacting the lords of > > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect > in > > my own case. > > > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but > there > > is no wrong in it. > > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > > descended from the great > > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > , > > Prashant Doshi > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important > , > > but sir , can u > > > > > explain that > > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > > indicates heavey > > > expenses , > > > > > bed > > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > > impact > > > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > > lagna making me very > > > > > much pious , > > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > bombay > > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i > want > > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > > are branded > > > dusthana one > > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet > in > > these houses is > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha > bhavas > > and have their own > > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > > dusthana viz. six, > > > eight > > > > > and > > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > > attributed as karak > > > for > > > > > sixth > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the > 8th > > and 12th houses in > > > my > > > > > own > > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > > besides myself happy in > > > > > doing > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in > its > > own way just like > > > each > > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house > and > > venus in the 12th > > > > > house , > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > > thing , venus in 12 > > > gives > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money > saving > > ability, also a u > > > can > > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not > good > > with respect > > > tomental > > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that > is > > what i observe in > > > me > > > > > and i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > > duststhanas and any planet > > > in > > > > > them > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > > person has planets in > > > all > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > > rare. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Hello All, In my chart too sun is in 8th house(own house) Leo. What it indicates? i have kala-amirtha yoga too(i doubt). 24/08/1982 Place:Rajapalayam [some spell as Rajapalaiyam] Time: 17.20 [5.20 pm] What is the effect of parivarthana between 7 & 10 house lords in my chart. I have got High Blood Pressure and my age is 23 only. I'll be grateful if anyone analyzed and tell about my ista devata & other remedies that i should take. What are the planets that are weak & i need to strengthen it. I have no peace in my life even i am a youth. I feel myself as an unlucky person. Guide Me.... Regards Ram , Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > Hello Krishnan ji, > > > Pranam , > > Ok check this horoscope , in this horoscope the ither house has Sun and > Venus , and sun is in this own house , what does this indicate , ??? > > after studing this horoscope , though it has moon and mer in the 9th which > is considered as very very goood , but sun and venus is confusing me ??? > > 8th sept 1975 > 5:30pm eVENING > Bombay > > > Also tell me Eight is so imp and it is considered as house of secrets , then > why is it that we call dusthana place or neech house???? > > thanking you > > Regards > Prashu > > On 1/20/06, vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > > > Dear Doshi ji, > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any outstanding person has always > > a very good 8th house due to which he must have come into lime > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get defamed and destroyed > > 'coz 8th house. > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around it like 6th becomes 12th > > to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse 8th first by considering > > it as lagna.otherwise this house known as secret house is fathomless > > krishnan > > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > > > Pranam, > > > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have tryed to understand > > this > > many times before , but i end up getting confused with the effect , > > > > Lets take an example > > > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th house , and 5th lord > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that there is parivartan yoga > > exsist. > > > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , and 5th house has sat > > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has Sun in the Saturn house > > , > > > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna with Jup , and Sun > > > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as Saturn in lagna is > > considered very strong > > > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would that combination mean > > > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say virtual mercury so ketu > > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , secondly ,sun and sat > > in > > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis how powerful this > > yoga > > will be??? > > > > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > > > 10th march 1974 > > Bombay > > 06:30am Morning > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group only. i am only > > > one of the many members who answer here. there are more > > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this group from whom i > > > too learn a point or two. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on go , thanks a > > > million , but > > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so clear to me if u > > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a stock market > > > movement, > > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares move the index > > > down. > > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares are falling but > > > their > > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the other stronger shares > > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of the index is > > > green in > > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate negatives and some > > > > > positives. all results are true and happening simultaneously but > > > > > the net result is something one shall predict only after > > > analysing > > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement and individual scrip > > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an astrologer on > > > planets. > > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single handedly change > > > the > > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter impacting the lords of > > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in my own case. > > > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there is no wrong in it. > > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we descended from the great > > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write something silly , > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , but sir , can u > > > > > explain that > > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it indicates heavey > > > expenses , > > > > > bed > > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual impact > > > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in lagna making me very > > > > > much pious , > > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > bombay > > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses are branded > > > dusthana one > > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in these houses is > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas and have their own > > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three dusthana viz. six, > > > eight > > > > > and > > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is attributed as karak > > > for > > > > > sixth > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th and 12th houses in > > > my > > > > > own > > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy besides myself happy in > > > > > doing > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its own way just like > > > each > > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Doshi > > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and venus in the 12th > > > > > house , > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one thing , venus in 12 > > > gives > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving ability, also a u > > > can > > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good with respect > > > tomental > > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is what i observe in > > > me > > > > > and i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are duststhanas and any planet > > > in > > > > > them > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a person has planets in > > > all > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very rare. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dear group members: The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in 8 are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You can be sure that the birth data is correct to the minute: DOB: 22 Nov. 1937 TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs. POB: 21N42; 71E58 This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in the 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best period of my life. How ? I would appreciate comments from the learned members. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Vijaya ji befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including research karna chahati hai tho padhna. you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the doubts including introspection particularly of health will often bother you krishnan Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: Hi all, This discussion about the 8th house being the dreaded is scaring the crap out of me ... i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the 7th - leo) ... what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? POB: Cuttack, Orissa TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 thanks in advance. my namaskarams to all, vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > outstanding person has always a very good 8th house > due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this > house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > tryed to understand this > many times before , but i end up getting confused > with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th > house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , > and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna > with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would > that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , > secondly ,sun and sat in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis > how powerful this yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group > only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there > are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant > Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on > go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so > clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares > move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of > the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate > negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening > simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict > only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single > handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in > my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there > is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , > but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in > these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas > and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th > and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its > own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and > venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving > ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good > with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is > what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > rare. I would like to > > hear > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in > hardcover > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dear Shri Mehata ji, If iam permitted to add venus as atmakarak is also a driving force in creativity and moon manha karak in lakshmi sthan and 5th in own house with aspect of jupiter in 11th with mangal in exaltation in capricorn.these highlights along with dasa of 6th lord posited in 9th with budha aditya yoga.rahu gives all that interest and intelligence to deal in society in the house vrischik lord mangal. I was really fascinated to drsehkon with mercury and jupiter in kendra>more important sun in 5th and from there venus in 4th in kumbha gives all that necessary for writing skills and inspiration. Consistent moon in navamsa in vishnu sthan in 9th in trikona in owan sign makes the native blessed with respect to religion,spirtuality. Then a retrograde lord of 11th and 12th in lagna helps in mixing up with all classes of society and gives a nature of service outlook.In navamsa being in 10th shows also close relation with raja and praja. The horoscope is a very good tool if one wants to understang how planets in debilitation and retrograde make life and help the native to maintain a profile of happiness with all those tribulations inearly part of life in jupiter saturn dasa and mercury dasa.Incidentally in D/3 mercury lagna with moon indicates the kind of change brought in the pattern life. malefics and benifics what we term usually in Astrology is not at all relevant in charts of this type.Almighty is great at what he makes. krisna with regards Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Dear group members: The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in 8 are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You can be sure that the birth data is correct to the minute: DOB: 22 Nov. 1937 TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs. POB: 21N42; 71E58 This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in the 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best period of my life. How ? I would appreciate comments from the learned members. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Vijaya ji befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including research karna chahati hai tho padhna. you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the doubts including introspection particularly of health will often bother you krishnan Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: Hi all, This discussion about the 8th house being the dreaded is scaring the crap out of me ... i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the 7th - leo) ... what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? POB: Cuttack, Orissa TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 thanks in advance. my namaskarams to all, vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > outstanding person has always a very good 8th house > due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this > house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > tryed to understand this > many times before , but i end up getting confused > with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th > house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , > and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna > with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would > that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , > secondly ,sun and sat in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis > how powerful this yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group > only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there > are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant > Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on > go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so > clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares > move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of > the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate > negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening > simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict > only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single > handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in > my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there > is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , > but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in > these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas > and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th > and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its > own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and > venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving > ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good > with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is > what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > rare. 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Hello Vijay ji, Probably at this point of time what I feel is: with lagna raising in kumbha and moon placed in sagittarus and sun in virgo,your are dominated by a dual nature and mostly tending to be more deeply concerned of metaphysical issues. Lagna in poorvabhadra is no doubt a creative mind.sun in chitta making you loose patience and lastly moon in poorvashadha ruled by venus all make you more materialistic You were born on thursaday in atiganda yoga and karna vishti,signifies of the family issues and on ashtami day dear to sun. vimsopakbala.shadbala and sarvashtakavarga does not convey anything of your fears and illusions. current dasa lord and antar dasalord signify marraige time.may be jupiter moving to scorpio your wish will vefulfiled. Atmakarak sun makes you very haste and amatyakarak gives room to apply.certainly your hastness need control and coolness of amatyakarak gives time to know about pleasent things. mars and venus in 7th is certainlt not due to any of your bad karmas as thought.This signifies your temperment.take it that solemnises a good partner for life. krishnan Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: Dear Vattem Krishnanji, Thank you very much for your reassurance. I have two other questions. Please answer it only if you have time as there may be more important problems to address for others. Here's what I wanted to know: 1. I have Mars & Venus in the 7th house (leo). What are the implications of this? Late marriage? No marriage? What sins should I have committed in previous lives to have got this unfavorable 7th house presence? I certainly don't want to commit those sins again! 2. I have frequent mood swings. During some parts of the day, I am upbeat about life while during other parts I am full of sadness and depression over the meaningless and stupid materialistic life I am trying to lead. I sometimes consider spending more time in spirituality. But during other times the material world seems very attractive. So I am neither in the material world fully nor am I in the spiritual plane completely. I am lost in the midland where there is only mental anguish and emotional suffering. While I have many people around me, I am rather alone. Nobody can understand the inner workings of my mind. There is no one to who can understand me. This is turning out to be quite painful. I have been enduring this pain for nearly 5 years now. What astrological signatures are responsible for this? Is there any remedy for this mental suffering I am enduring? Vattemji, thank you once again for your prompt response. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Arjun Panditji, Ashutoshji, and others who have helped me in the recent past. I am not saying this so that all of you will continue to respond to my queries. I am truly grateful for the help you have all rendered to me. Thank you so much, Vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Vijaya ji > befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including > research karna chahati hai tho padhna. > you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign > nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the > doubts including introspection particularly of > health will often bother you > krishnan > Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: > Hi all, > > This discussion about the 8th house being the > dreaded > is scaring the crap out of me ... > > i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) > in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the > 7th - leo) ... > > what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? > > POB: Cuttack, Orissa > TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 > > thanks in advance. > > my namaskarams to all, > > vijay > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > > Dear Doshi ji, > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > > outstanding person has always a very good 8th > house > > due to which he must have come into lime > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also > get > > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house > around > > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes > 2nd > > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise > this > > house known as secret house is fathomless > > krishnan > > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > > > Pranam, > > > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > > tryed to understand this > > many times before , but i end up getting confused > > with the effect , > > > > Lets take an example > > > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in > 5th > > house , and 5th lord > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > > there is parivartan yoga > > exsist. > > > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna > , > > and 5th house has sat > > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > > Sun in the Saturn house > > , > > > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the > lagna > > with Jup , and Sun > > > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > > Saturn in lagna is > > considered very strong > > > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what > would > > that combination mean > > > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > > virtual mercury so ketu > > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not > , > > secondly ,sun and sat in > > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third > iis > > how powerful this yoga > > will be??? > > > > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > > > 10th march 1974 > > Bombay > > 06:30am Morning > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to > group > > only. i am only > > > one of the many members who answer here. there > > are more > > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > > group from whom i > > > too learn a point or two. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , > Prashant > > Doshi > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in > on > > go , thanks a > > > million , but > > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not > so > > clear to me if u > > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > > stock market > > > movement, > > > > > some shares move the index up and some > shares > > move the index > > > down. > > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > > are falling but > > > their > > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > > other stronger shares > > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result > of > > the index is > > > green in > > > > > positive. similarly some planets may > indicate > > negatives and some > > > > > positives. all results are true and > happening > > simultaneously but > > > > > the net result is something one shall > predict > > only after > > > analysing > > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > > and individual scrip > > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > > astrologer on > > > planets. > > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can > single > > handedly change > > > the > > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > > impacting the lords of > > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect > in > > my own case. > > > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but > there > > is no wrong in it. > > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > > descended from the great > > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > , > > Prashant Doshi > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important > , > > but sir , can u > > > > > explain that > > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > > indicates heavey > > > expenses , > > > > > bed > > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > > impact > > > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > > lagna making me very > > > > > much pious , > > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > bombay > > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i > want > > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > > are branded > > > dusthana one > > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet > in > > these houses is > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha > bhavas > > and have their own > > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > > dusthana viz. six, > > > eight > > > > > and > > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > > attributed as karak > > > for > > > > > sixth > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the > 8th > > and 12th houses in > > > my > > > > > own > > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > > besides myself happy in > > > > > doing > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in > its > > own way just like > > > each > > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house > and > > venus in the 12th > > > > > house , > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > > thing , venus in 12 > > > gives > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money > saving > > ability, also a u > > > can > > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not > good > > with respect > > > tomental > > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that > is > > what i observe in > > > me > > > > > and i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > > duststhanas and any planet > > > in > > > > > them > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > > person has planets in > > > all > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > > rare. I would like to > > > hear > > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF > THE > > ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > > AND > > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message > have > > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > > ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE > > DIVINITY AND > > > RELISH THE > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the > web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in > > hardcover > > Photo Books. 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Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Thank you very much for the enlightening discussion, Mr Krishnan. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Dear Shri Mehata ji, If iam permitted to add venus as atmakarak is also a driving force in creativity and moon manha karak in lakshmi sthan and 5th in own house with aspect of jupiter in 11th with mangal in exaltation in capricorn.these highlights along with dasa of 6th lord posited in 9th with budha aditya yoga.rahu gives all that interest and intelligence to deal in society in the house vrischik lord mangal. I was really fascinated to drsehkon with mercury and jupiter in kendra>more important sun in 5th and from there venus in 4th in kumbha gives all that necessary for writing skills and inspiration. Consistent moon in navamsa in vishnu sthan in 9th in trikona in owan sign makes the native blessed with respect to religion,spirtuality. Then a retrograde lord of 11th and 12th in lagna helps in mixing up with all classes of society and gives a nature of service outlook.In navamsa being in 10th shows also close relation with raja and praja. The horoscope is a very good tool if one wants to understang how planets in debilitation and retrograde make life and help the native to maintain a profile of happiness with all those tribulations inearly part of life in jupiter saturn dasa and mercury dasa.Incidentally in D/3 mercury lagna with moon indicates the kind of change brought in the pattern life. malefics and benifics what we term usually in Astrology is not at all relevant in charts of this type.Almighty is great at what he makes. krisna with regards Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Dear group members: The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in 8 are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You can be sure that the birth data is correct to the minute: DOB: 22 Nov. 1937 TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs. POB: 21N42; 71E58 This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in the 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best period of my life. How ? I would appreciate comments from the learned members. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Vijaya ji befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including research karna chahati hai tho padhna. you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the doubts including introspection particularly of health will often bother you krishnan Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote: Hi all, This discussion about the 8th house being the dreaded is scaring the crap out of me ... i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th) in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the 7th - leo) ... what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies? POB: Cuttack, Orissa TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983 thanks in advance. my namaskarams to all, vijay --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Doshi ji, > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any > outstanding person has always a very good 8th house > due to which he must have come into lime > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also get > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house. > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house around > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes 2nd > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses. > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise this > house known as secret house is fathomless > krishnan > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote: > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji, > > Pranam, > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have > tryed to understand this > many times before , but i end up getting confused > with the effect , > > Lets take an example > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in 5th > house , and 5th lord > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that > there is parivartan yoga > exsist. > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna , > and 5th house has sat > and ketu ,in this scenario , > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has > Sun in the Saturn house > , > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the lagna > with Jup , and Sun > > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as > Saturn in lagna is > considered very strong > > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what would > that combination mean > > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say > virtual mercury so ketu > will act as mercury or Saturn ??? > > > My point is that this parivartan is active or not , > secondly ,sun and sat in > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third iis > how powerful this yoga > will be??? > > > Pls have a look at this for ref > > 10th march 1974 > Bombay > 06:30am Morning > > > Thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > please ask all your queries but addressed to group > only. i am only > > one of the many members who answer here. there > are more > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this > group from whom i > > too learn a point or two. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , Prashant > Doshi > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji > > > > > > > > > Pranam > > > > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in on > go , thanks a > > million , but > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not so > clear to me if u > > dont mind > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend prashant > > > > > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a > stock market > > movement, > > > > some shares move the index up and some shares > move the index > > down. > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares > are falling but > > their > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the > other stronger shares > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result of > the index is > > green in > > > > positive. similarly some planets may indicate > negatives and some > > > > positives. all results are true and happening > simultaneously but > > > > the net result is something one shall predict > only after > > analysing > > > > all factors. to look at the index movement > and individual scrip > > > > movement is what an analyst does akin to an > astrologer on > > planets. > > > > but there are some heavyweights who can single > handedly change > > the > > > > movement. for example, an exalted jupiter > impacting the lords of > > > > ten houses by way of conjunction and aspect in > my own case. > > > > > > > > your observation on venus is correct but there > is no wrong in it. > > > > we all human beings have gothras as we > descended from the great > > > > sages who too have a venus in their charts. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji , > > > > > > > > > > Pranam , > > > > > > > > > > I am learner ,so pls forgive if i write > something silly , > > > > > > > > > > I understand that each bhawa is important , > but sir , can u > > > > explain that > > > > > when u have venus in 12th house , it > indicates heavey > > expenses , > > > > bed > > > > > happiness , and sexual inclination > > > > > then sir how can it have some spiritual > impact > > > > > > > > > > the below is my horoscope , i have jup in > lagna making me very > > > > much pious , > > > > > and god fearing , but i dont think venus > plays that part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > bombay > > > > > 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir i may be completely wrong , but , i want > to known the logic > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004 > <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > even though six, eight and twelve houses > are branded > > dusthana one > > > > > > cannot blindly conclude that any planet in > these houses is > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > eight and twelve houses are moksha bhavas > and have their own > > > > > > significance in a native's spiritual > journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn is the karak for all the three > dusthana viz. six, > > eight > > > > and > > > > > > twleve houses, even while mars also is > attributed as karak > > for > > > > sixth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lords of Ten Houses are placed in the 8th > and 12th houses in > > my > > > > own > > > > > > chart and am making many people happy > besides myself happy in > > > > doing > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > each of the twleve bhavas are good in its > own way just like > > each > > > > > > organ of a body having its own use and > importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Doshi > > > > > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI dave , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i myself have moom in the 8th house and > venus in the 12th > > > > house , > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > acq ascendent , but i can tell u one > thing , venus in 12 > > gives > > > > a > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > expensese , and very bad in money saving > ability, also a u > > can > > > > > > call a > > > > > > > womenizer(flirt).moon in 8th is not good > with respect > > tomental > > > > > > health , and > > > > > > > feels always lonely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls correct me if i am wrong , that is > what i observe in > > me > > > > and i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > writting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > > > > > bombay 06:30am morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/06, dave2anju <dave2anju> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that 6, 8 & 12 are > duststhanas and any planet > > in > > > > them > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > inauspicious. Especially if any > malefics like Rahu, Ketu, > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > etc.occupy any of them. What if a > person has planets in > > all > > > > three > > > > > > > > houses? Does this mean lot of > struggle, unhappiness and > > > > > > obstacles or > > > > > > > > may be more? This must not be very > rare. I would like to > > hear > > > > > > more on > > > > > > > > this please. > > > > > > > > adv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE > ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > > > RELISH THE > > > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in > hardcover > Photo Books. 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