Why 8th house Planets are such dreaded!!....Pranav Gupta

[Guest guest]

Hello Pranav,

It may not be proper to blame 8th House Mars in your

wife's chart for possible divorce.

There are many other factors which you should

consider.

 

I think her 7th house Sun with sukra is more lethal to

marriage .

This is because, 7th is aspected by Sani.

Moreover, her UL has Mars in it. This combo and ketu

in 12th all point to serious marital conflict.Her

present Sukra dasa lord sukra is in VM (visha Mukha)

which misguides her.

 

Your chart has Sani in UL. And Mars and venus and ketu

in the 12th

.. This is very disturbing factor for marital life's

existance for a long time.You are in Dasa chhidra

period.

 

Please pull thro till your Suktra dasa starts in May.

You should be able to come to some solution if both of

you wish.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

--- Pranav Gupta <praanav wrote:

 

> Namaste everybody.

>

> My wife also has Mars in the 8th house with

> Mercury

>

> We got married less than a month and we are

> already thinking about divorce.

>

> We did a proper horoscope match and every thing

> however it seems that we cannot get along Someone

> had earlier suggested - Since Mars is posted in the

> 12th house of Boy's Horoscope so he should be

> careful in his speech and behaviour. And advice to

> apply adequate tact and patience to maintain peace

> and harmony in the domestic front. Moreover since

> Venus and malefic Sun are placed in the 7th house of

> Girl's horoscope. this makes her egoistic and short

> temper, also shows that she may face some problem

> during earlier part of marital life.

>

> However Girl has Mars in the 8th house, can this

> be the problem?

>

>

> Respected people on the forum I am unable to

> understand what went wrong and is there a way to

> save this marriage?

>

>

> Any help or guidance is appreciated !!

>

>

>

>

> Boy-

> DOB: 24 May 1977

> Time: 03:45 am

> Place: Shimla (31:6:N and 77:10:E)

>

> Girl-

> DOB: 12 Nov 1978

> Time: 17:24 (5:24 pm)

> Place: Nangal, Punjab (31:24:N and 76:24:E)

>

Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you very much for the insightful discussio.

> Glad to know that you are the son of Rev.

> Rewashankarji. Though I never met him, I have known

> much about him and his impressive knowledge.

>

> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

>

> Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Sri Mehta Saheb,

>

> 3rd and 8th lord in 8th creates a very powerful

> yoga.

> My GrandfatherShatri Rewashankar Becharbhai Trivedi

> was born with Tula Sukra in 8th.

> He was honoured by almost all Shankaracharyas, Govt.

> Of India, Andhra, Gujarat etc.for his Samaveda

> gaana.

> He had the whole Samaveda by heart ,and during his

> Sukra dasa from 1955 to 1975.

> He acquired great fame .

> Apart from Samavedi, he was a great astrologer.

> He used to tell me that dusthanadhipatis in dusthana

> become great benefactors.

>

> He had Moon and ketu also in 8th. It was said that

> he

> could change people's bhagya due to his vaksidhhi.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> --- Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:

>

> > Dear group members:

> >

> > The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in

> 8

> > are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You

> can

> > be sure that the birth data is correct to the

> > minute:

> >

> > DOB: 22 Nov. 1937

> > TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs.

> > POB: 21N42; 71E58

> >

> > This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in

> the

> > 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best

> > period of my life. How ? I would appreciate

> comments

> > from the learned members.

> >

> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> >

> > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> > Vijaya ji

> > befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including

> > research karna chahati hai tho padhna.

> > you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy

> sign

> > nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the

> > doubts including introspection particularly of

> > health will often bother you

> > krishnan

> > Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote:

> > Hi all,

> >

> > This discussion about the 8th house being the

> > dreaded

> > is scaring the crap out of me ...

> >

> > i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the

> 8th)

> > in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of

> the

> > 7th - leo) ...

> >

> > what does this indicate? good or bad? any

> remedies?

> >

> > POB: Cuttack, Orissa

> > TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983

> >

> > thanks in advance.

> >

> > my namaskarams to all,

> >

> > vijay

> >

> > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Doshi ji,

> > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any

> > > outstanding person has always a very good 8th

> > house

> > > due to which he must have come into lime

> > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also

> > get

> > > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house.

> > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house

> > around

> > > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes

> > 2nd

> > > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses.

> > > A good always considers as ao priority to

> anlyse

> > > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise

> > this

> > > house known as secret house is fathomless

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

> > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji,

> > >

> > > Pranam,

> > >

> > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I

> have

> > > tryed to understand this

> > > many times before , but i end up getting

> confused

> > > with the effect ,

> > >

> > > Lets take an example

> > >

> > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in

> > 5th

> > > house , and 5th lord

> > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that

> > > there is parivartan yoga

> > > exsist.

> > >

> > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in

> lagna

> > ,

> > > and 5th house has sat

> > > and ketu ,in this scenario ,

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it

> has

> > > Sun in the Saturn house

> > > ,

> > >

> > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the

> > lagna

>

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[Guest guest]

dear friend pranav ji

 

this mail is only to clear any confusion you may get. tatvam ji and

krishnanji are both right in their own analysis.

 

three different readings suggesting you to think positive and remove

the apprehensions of a divorce shall help you make up your mind that

divorce is only a possibility which can be precluded by your

sincerety and commitment towards your wife and you both together can

definitely save this marriage by coming to terms.

 

while appreciating tatvam ji and krishnan ji, i request the

fraternity to present a positive possibility in their concluding

remarks if there is even an iota of positive possibility present in

the chart.

 

with best wishes and blessings

arjun

 

 

 

, Tatvamasi

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Hello Pranav,

> It may not be proper to blame 8th House Mars in your

> wife's chart for possible divorce.

> There are many other factors which you should

> consider.

>

> I think her 7th house Sun with sukra is more lethal to

> marriage .

> This is because, 7th is aspected by Sani.

> Moreover, her UL has Mars in it. This combo and ketu

> in 12th all point to serious marital conflict.Her

> present Sukra dasa lord sukra is in VM (visha Mukha)

> which misguides her.

>

> Your chart has Sani in UL. And Mars and venus and ketu

> in the 12th

> . This is very disturbing factor for marital life's

> existance for a long time.You are in Dasa chhidra

> period.

>

> Please pull thro till your Suktra dasa starts in May.

> You should be able to come to some solution if both of

> you wish.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> --- Pranav Gupta <praanav> wrote:

>

> > Namaste everybody.

> >

> > My wife also has Mars in the 8th house with

> > Mercury

> >

> > We got married less than a month and we are

> > already thinking about divorce.

> >

> > We did a proper horoscope match and every thing

> > however it seems that we cannot get along Someone

> > had earlier suggested - Since Mars is posted in the

> > 12th house of Boy's Horoscope so he should be

> > careful in his speech and behaviour. And advice to

> > apply adequate tact and patience to maintain peace

> > and harmony in the domestic front. Moreover since

> > Venus and malefic Sun are placed in the 7th house of

> > Girl's horoscope. this makes her egoistic and short

> > temper, also shows that she may face some problem

> > during earlier part of marital life.

> >

> > However Girl has Mars in the 8th house, can this

> > be the problem?

> >

> >

> > Respected people on the forum I am unable to

> > understand what went wrong and is there a way to

> > save this marriage?

> >

> >

> > Any help or guidance is appreciated !!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Boy-

> > DOB: 24 May 1977

> > Time: 03:45 am

> > Place: Shimla (31:6:N and 77:10:E)

> >

> > Girl-

> > DOB: 12 Nov 1978

> > Time: 17:24 (5:24 pm)

> > Place: Nangal, Punjab (31:24:N and 76:24:E)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik> wrote:

> > Respected Tatvamasi,

> >

> > Thank you very much for the insightful discussio.

> > Glad to know that you are the son of Rev.

> > Rewashankarji. Though I never met him, I have known

> > much about him and his impressive knowledge.

> >

> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> >

> > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> > Sri Mehta Saheb,

> >

> > 3rd and 8th lord in 8th creates a very powerful

> > yoga.

> > My GrandfatherShatri Rewashankar Becharbhai Trivedi

> > was born with Tula Sukra in 8th.

> > He was honoured by almost all Shankaracharyas, Govt.

> > Of India, Andhra, Gujarat etc.for his Samaveda

> > gaana.

> > He had the whole Samaveda by heart ,and during his

> > Sukra dasa from 1955 to 1975.

> > He acquired great fame .

> > Apart from Samavedi, he was a great astrologer.

> > He used to tell me that dusthanadhipatis in dusthana

> > become great benefactors.

> >

> > He had Moon and ketu also in 8th. It was said that

> > he

> > could change people's bhagya due to his vaksidhhi.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear group members:

> > >

> > > The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in

> > 8

> > > are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You

> > can

> > > be sure that the birth data is correct to the

> > > minute:

> > >

> > > DOB: 22 Nov. 1937

> > > TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs.

> > > POB: 21N42; 71E58

> > >

> > > This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in

> > the

> > > 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best

> > > period of my life. How ? I would appreciate

> > comments

> > > from the learned members.

> > >

> > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > >

> > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote:

> > > Vijaya ji

> > > befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including

> > > research karna chahati hai tho padhna.

> > > you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy

> > sign

> > > nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the

> > > doubts including introspection particularly of

> > > health will often bother you

> > > krishnan

> > > Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99> wrote:

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > This discussion about the 8th house being the

> > > dreaded

> > > is scaring the crap out of me ...

> > >

> > > i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the

> > 8th)

> > > in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of

> > the

> > > 7th - leo) ...

> > >

> > > what does this indicate? good or bad? any

> > remedies?

> > >

> > > POB: Cuttack, Orissa

> > > TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983

> > >

> > > thanks in advance.

> > >

> > > my namaskarams to all,

> > >

> > > vijay

> > >

> > > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Doshi ji,

> > > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any

> > > > outstanding person has always a very good 8th

> > > house

> > > > due to which he must have come into lime

> > > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also

> > > get

> > > > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house.

> > > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house

> > > around

> > > > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes

> > > 2nd

> > > > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses.

> > > > A good always considers as ao priority to

> > anlyse

> > > > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise

> > > this

> > > > house known as secret house is fathomless

> > > > krishnan

> > > >

> > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@g...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji,

> > > >

> > > > Pranam,

> > > >

> > > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I

> > have

> > > > tryed to understand this

> > > > many times before , but i end up getting

> > confused

> > > > with the effect ,

> > > >

> > > > Lets take an example

> > > >

> > > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in

> > > 5th

> > > > house , and 5th lord

> > > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that

> > > > there is parivartan yoga

> > > > exsist.

> > > >

> > > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in

> > lagna

> > > ,

> > > > and 5th house has sat

> > > > and ketu ,in this scenario ,

> > > >

> > > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it

> > has

> > > > Sun in the Saturn house

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the

> > > lagna

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Tatvam-Asi,

 

First of all I will like to Thank you for taking time to respond to my

question and really appreciate the wonderful advice of patience!

 

I do realize that Mars in Aries, Scorpio, and Capricorn is devoid of

dosha-potential at all. There is no dosha associated in this though there may

be other effects like frequent arguments with spouse, occasional accidents, etc.

 

Is it the malefic Mercury in the 8th house with sun in 7th responsible for

this? Can we do anything to reduce this?

 

For myself - I have been fasting on Saturdays since last 11 years. And there

are other remidies for Sadhe sati that have been done. And I do recite Hanuman

chaalisa every day.

 

Please let me know your thoughts?

 

Regards,

Pranav

 

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Hello Pranav,

It may not be proper to blame 8th House Mars in your

wife's chart for possible divorce.

There are many other factors which you should

consider.

 

I think her 7th house Sun with sukra is more lethal to

marriage .

This is because, 7th is aspected by Sani.

Moreover, her UL has Mars in it. This combo and ketu

in 12th all point to serious marital conflict.Her

present Sukra dasa lord sukra is in VM (visha Mukha)

which misguides her.

 

Your chart has Sani in UL. And Mars and venus and ketu

in the 12th

.. This is very disturbing factor for marital life's

existance for a long time.You are in Dasa chhidra

period.

 

Please pull thro till your Suktra dasa starts in May.

You should be able to come to some solution if both of

you wish.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

--- Pranav Gupta <praanav wrote:

 

> Namaste everybody.

>

> My wife also has Mars in the 8th house with

> Mercury

>

> We got married less than a month and we are

> already thinking about divorce.

>

> We did a proper horoscope match and every thing

> however it seems that we cannot get along Someone

> had earlier suggested - Since Mars is posted in the

> 12th house of Boy's Horoscope so he should be

> careful in his speech and behaviour. And advice to

> apply adequate tact and patience to maintain peace

> and harmony in the domestic front. Moreover since

> Venus and malefic Sun are placed in the 7th house of

> Girl's horoscope. this makes her egoistic and short

> temper, also shows that she may face some problem

> during earlier part of marital life.

>

> However Girl has Mars in the 8th house, can this

> be the problem?

>

>

> Respected people on the forum I am unable to

> understand what went wrong and is there a way to

> save this marriage?

>

>

> Any help or guidance is appreciated !!

>

>

>

>

> Boy-

> DOB: 24 May 1977

> Time: 03:45 am

> Place: Shimla (31:6:N and 77:10:E)

>

> Girl-

> DOB: 12 Nov 1978

> Time: 17:24 (5:24 pm)

> Place: Nangal, Punjab (31:24:N and 76:24:E)

>

Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you very much for the insightful discussio.

> Glad to know that you are the son of Rev.

> Rewashankarji. Though I never met him, I have known

> much about him and his impressive knowledge.

>

> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

>

> Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Sri Mehta Saheb,

>

> 3rd and 8th lord in 8th creates a very powerful

> yoga.

> My GrandfatherShatri Rewashankar Becharbhai Trivedi

> was born with Tula Sukra in 8th.

> He was honoured by almost all Shankaracharyas, Govt.

> Of India, Andhra, Gujarat etc.for his Samaveda

> gaana.

> He had the whole Samaveda by heart ,and during his

> Sukra dasa from 1955 to 1975.

> He acquired great fame .

> Apart from Samavedi, he was a great astrologer.

> He used to tell me that dusthanadhipatis in dusthana

> become great benefactors.

>

> He had Moon and ketu also in 8th. It was said that

> he

> could change people's bhagya due to his vaksidhhi.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> --- Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:

>

> > Dear group members:

> >

> > The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in

> 8

> > are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You

> can

> > be sure that the birth data is correct to the

> > minute:

> >

> > DOB: 22 Nov. 1937

> > TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs.

> > POB: 21N42; 71E58

> >

> > This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in

> the

> > 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best

> > period of my life. How ? I would appreciate

> comments

> > from the learned members.

> >

> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> >

> > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> > Vijaya ji

> > befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including

> > research karna chahati hai tho padhna.

> > you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy

> sign

> > nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the

> > doubts including introspection particularly of

> > health will often bother you

> > krishnan

> > Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote:

> > Hi all,

> >

> > This discussion about the 8th house being the

> > dreaded

> > is scaring the crap out of me ...

> >

> > i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the

> 8th)

> > in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of

> the

> > 7th - leo) ...

> >

> > what does this indicate? good or bad? any

> remedies?

> >

> > POB: Cuttack, Orissa

> > TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983

> >

> > thanks in advance.

> >

> > my namaskarams to all,

> >

> > vijay

> >

> > --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Doshi ji,

> > > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any

> > > outstanding person has always a very good 8th

> > house

> > > due to which he must have come into lime

> > > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also

> > get

> > > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house.

> > > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house

> > around

> > > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes

> > 2nd

> > > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses.

> > > A good always considers as ao priority to

> anlyse

> > > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise

> > this

> > > house known as secret house is fathomless

> > > krishnan

> > >

> > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

> > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji,

> > >

> > > Pranam,

> > >

> > > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I

> have

> > > tryed to understand this

> > > many times before , but i end up getting

> confused

> > > with the effect ,

> > >

> > > Lets take an example

> > >

> > > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in

> > 5th

> > > house , and 5th lord

> > > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that

> > > there is parivartan yoga

> > > exsist.

> > >

> > > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in

> lagna

> > ,

> > > and 5th house has sat

> > > and ketu ,in this scenario ,

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it

> has

> > > Sun in the Saturn house

> > > ,

> > >

> > > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the

> > lagna

>

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