Why 8th house Planets are such dreaded!!Sri Krishna ji,.

January 23, 2006

Respected Krishna ji,

First of all I will like to thank you for taking time to respond to my

question!

You have attributed the problems to the environmental factors and I strongly

feel you are correct!!! There is actually no problem and still there is a big

problem.

As I mentioned in my earlier emails - My wife always have had problems

maintaining any kind of friendships, relationships or partenerships. Can this be

the symptom to the marital problems too??and caused by the malefic planets you

mentioned?

Regards,

Pranav

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Dear Mr Prnav,

8th house mars in case happens to be in scorpio or Aries problem seperation

may not be an issue.

As 7th to 8th is second house,the girl's wish for having family will not be an

issue.In this case,the worry is due to sun,mercury and rahu as seen from prasna

lagna that confounds the issues and puts pressure on both of you.As seen from

transit of jupiter both of you have no immediate problem.Need however to believe

you are goig to be together.No body can seperate you.Even after matching of

horoscope if issues are coming up.it is problem in the environment leading you

for misunderstanding.Pl use your patience and make the girl understand,even if

there is problem initially.

good luck

krishnan

P.S:Indications are based on prasna and valid for next 6 months

Pranav Gupta <praanav wrote:

Namaste everybody.

My wife also has Mars in the 8th house with Mercury

We got married less than a month and we are already thinking about divorce.

We did a proper horoscope match and every thing however it seems that we

cannot get along Someone had earlier suggested - Since Mars is posted in the

12th house of Boy's Horoscope so he should be careful in his speech and

behaviour. And advice to apply adequate tact and patience to maintain peace and

harmony in the domestic front. Moreover since Venus and malefic Sun are placed

in the 7th house of Girl's horoscope. this makes her egoistic and short temper,

also shows that she may face some problem during earlier part of marital life.

However Girl has Mars in the 8th house, can this be the problem?

Respected people on the forum I am unable to understand what went wrong and

is there a way to save this marriage?

Any help or guidance is appreciated !!

Boy-

DOB: 24 May 1977

Time: 03:45 am

Place: Shimla (31:6:N and 77:10:E)

Girl-

DOB: 12 Nov 1978

Time: 17:24 (5:24 pm)

Place: Nangal, Punjab (31:24:N and 76:24:E)

Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Respected Tatvamasi,

Thank you very much for the insightful discussio. Glad to know that you are

the son of Rev. Rewashankarji. Though I never met him, I have known much about

him and his impressive knowledge.

Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Sri Mehta Saheb,

3rd and 8th lord in 8th creates a very powerful yoga.

My GrandfatherShatri Rewashankar Becharbhai Trivedi

was born with Tula Sukra in 8th.

He was honoured by almost all Shankaracharyas, Govt.

Of India, Andhra, Gujarat etc.for his Samaveda gaana.

He had the whole Samaveda by heart ,and during his

Sukra dasa from 1955 to 1975.

He acquired great fame .

Apart from Samavedi, he was a great astrologer.

He used to tell me that dusthanadhipatis in dusthana

become great benefactors.

He had Moon and ketu also in 8th. It was said that he

could change people's bhagya due to his vaksidhhi.

Tatvam-Asi

--- Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote:

> Dear group members:

>

> The 3rd and 8th lords as well as the planets in 8

> are said to be very bad. Look at this chart. You can

> be sure that the birth data is correct to the

> minute:

>

> DOB: 22 Nov. 1937

> TOB: 15:07:00 Hrs.

> POB: 21N42; 71E58

>

> This is my chart. Venus, 3rd & 8th lord is in the

> 8th. As a matter of fact, Venus dasa was the best

> period of my life. How ? I would appreciate comments

> from the learned members.

>

> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

>

> vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> Vijaya ji

> befikar rahana and jitna padhayee including

> research karna chahati hai tho padhna.

> you have good yoga too .virgo being an earthy sign

> nothing to worry.may be your dual nature and the

> doubts including introspection particularly of

> health will often bother you

> krishnan

> Vijay Venkatraman <venkatblr99 wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> This discussion about the 8th house being the

> dreaded

> is scaring the crap out of me ...

>

> i have exalted mercury (lord of the 5th and the 8th)

> in the 8th house (virgo) along with sun (lord of the

> 7th - leo) ...

>

> what does this indicate? good or bad? any remedies?

>

> POB: Cuttack, Orissa

> TOB: 3:45 PM, October 13, 1983

>

> thanks in advance.

>

> my namaskarams to all,

>

> vijay

>

> --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> > Dear Doshi ji,

> > In jyotish 8th house has highest regard.Any

> > outstanding person has always a very good 8th

> house

> > due to which he must have come into lime

> > light.sometimes even great saints and sages also

> get

> > defamed and destroyed 'coz 8th house.

> > If we consider 7th as kendra.the two house

> around

> > it like 6th becomes 12th to 7th and 8th becomes

> 2nd

> > to 7th .There are gains as well as losses.

> > A good always considers as ao priority to anlyse

> > 8th first by considering it as lagna.otherwise

> this

> > house known as secret house is fathomless

> > krishnan

> >

> > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

> > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji & Respected Guru ji,

> >

> > Pranam,

> >

> > What i dont understand is Parivartan Yoga , I have

> > tryed to understand this

> > many times before , but i end up getting confused

> > with the effect ,

> >

> > Lets take an example

> >

> > lets say the Aqu lagna lagna lord(Saturn) is in

> 5th

> > house , and 5th lord

> > (Mer) in lagna , which is clearly no doubt that

> > there is parivartan yoga

> > exsist.

> >

> > Now let say , i have Jup , sun , and Mer in lagna

> ,

> > and 5th house has sat

> > and ketu ,in this scenario ,

> >

> > 1) Lagna is Aqu so saturn is the lord , but it has

> > Sun in the Saturn house

> > ,

> >

> > 2)Parivartan means Saturn is virtually in the

> lagna

> > with Jup , and Sun

> >

> > 3)Sat in lagna would give alot diffrent result as

> > Saturn in lagna is

> > considered very strong

> >

> > 4)Jup and Saturn Virtually together , so what

> would

> > that combination mean

> >

> > 5) 5TH House has Ketu with saturn , or u can say

> > virtual mercury so ketu

> > will act as mercury or Saturn ???

> >

> > My point is that this parivartan is active or not

> ,

> > secondly ,sun and sat in

> > Saturn house , would give adverse effect , third

> iis

> > how powerful this yoga

> > will be???

> >

> > Pls have a look at this for ref

> >

> > 10th march 1974

> > Bombay

> > 06:30am Morning

> >

> > Thanking you

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Prashu

> > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004

> > <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friend prashant

> > >

> > > please ask all your queries but addressed to

> group

> > only. i am only

> > > one of the many members who answer here. there

> > are more

> > > knowledgeable and learnt members than me in this

> > group from whom i

> > > too learn a point or two.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > ,

> Prashant

> > Doshi

> > > <prashuastro@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji

> > > >

> > > > Pranam

> > > >

> > > > lovely , way of explaning , great i got it in

> on

> > go , thanks a

> > > million , but

> > > > sir can i ask u another question which is not

> so

> > clear to me if u

> > > dont mind

> > > >

> > > > thanking you

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Prashu

> > > >

> > > > On 1/19/06, panditarjun2004

> > <panditarjun2004> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friend prashant

> > > > >

> > > > > let me make it simpler to understand. in a

> > stock market

> > > movement,

> > > > > some shares move the index up and some

> shares

> > move the index

> > > down.

> > > > > even when the index is going up, some shares

> > are falling but

> > > their

> > > > > pulling down the index is outweighed by the

> > other stronger shares

> > > > > moving the index up and thus the net result

> of

>

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January 23, 2006

Dear pranav,

This is my follow up as my earlier attempt made through prasna anlysis is

supported through natal readings now.

Both of you with venus influence are made together in dreamland as mars and

venus in pisces in 9th looks for easy life.There is also link of 9th and 10th

houses as lord of 10th in 9th making you issues difficult to expect and

directing for efforts in all your attempts.cancer moon with 7th lord saturn

together indicates conflicts between both of your personalities.

Your lagna is vargottama and as cancerian,your life style has been designed to

take care of your better her and her contributions to you are not much.to make

or mar life she is entirely in your hands.bestway is as you are recently married

and divorce/seperatin is to further adding problems to both of you i think you

have to be little bit tactful to deal with her and opt to have a family of your

own.this can bring in some change in attitude of your's wife life style

As seen from girls horoscope,the lgna as well as 7th house are in papakartari

yoga in navamsa indicating strain in all her relationships.Moon also is not

strong in aquarius in kumbha who's amatyakarak.The girl ultimatelly due to

frustations becomes sentimental and tends to believe in spirtual approaches for

getting her destiny is in her actions and deeds.

lagna lord sun is also with retrograde venus in rahu ruled swati nakshtra and

atmakarak sun jupiter ruled visakha.The whole problem of false ego can be

attributed to contradicting self as both in kamabhava.This being the house of

communication she intends all her near and dear to take of her tantrums.it is

essentiall that you need to caress and fondle despite all her gross and

conflicting talk.

Considering moon as lagna in 8th in mercury's nakshtra of revati she has all

diversities in her inner wishes and bodily instincts and comforted by benific

jupiter in the house of bed comforts throwing 9th aspects as lord of 8th house

in 12th in feminine house of royal queen.This holds key as a 8th house and

leading to vipareeta yoga.

Also gurumangala yoga is very strong as 4th mars with mercury are aspected.God

made her shrewed and not behave properly as saturn a neutral planet in lagna in

simha,an enemy's house makes her more like machoistic approaches instead of

being a helping hand to play second fiddle in her life with her partnes.Though

mar's makes man above and venus the female,this planet is in 3rd inretrograde in

kamabhava also exalted in 10th in navamsa.No doubt,if she can go for employment

she will have gains.Current dasa lord longing for life of comforts easiness

makes life hell for others and wants to crazy and comfortable.Venus-ju[iter

antar dasa can help both of you to have a female child and this is how her

behaviour approach slowly diversifies.She likes to have a family with somebody

catering to her wishes.

These reading can help you to understand to better life.Divorce is outcome

frustation.Now the frustation if any is fely it is certainly due to the problems

in understanding conflicting instincts.So go slowly and life will imrove