Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Hi rajan, Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda, rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular ones, this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying people not living. Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat all people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost care they see all. but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who they call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do jsut for the recoerd dying as they say. the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it for same kids onwards Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean dormetries, toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to go to heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO St PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the street giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work and also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC at Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these don't have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in Africa, Asia. I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified good people form all faiths, no bias we overplayed MT. panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant ji what all you said is true as they are all based on facts. even while appreciating the social service done by mother teresa, i do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a devil and was exorcised as per christian practices. i have documentary evidence for this from christian institutions. to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on the karma marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as even in india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are treated like living gods. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY. > ON MORALITY > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who became mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums anywhere > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms were unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million scientifically. Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these and that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls raped, becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society it will be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she said NO > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal children and suffer? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > this is a well documented section of both the +ve and –ve. > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for good work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed as communal as many do now a days as a fashion. > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living, MT did for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from us who believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc. > *-*-* > > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC Channel 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we made a hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where reason, introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her a saint for what? > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you find anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or be like Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate her to sainthood. > > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about peace between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved the honor. > > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier than her at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid regime in S. Africa. > > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street children, fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her. > > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did give 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who would have died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days. 29,000 died in a day or two rest later max a week > > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine there was a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only to feed them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the glass of milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry, this u humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE DOOR TO HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc. > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > Naliniji, > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this forum on the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but reading them is a pleasure too. > regards > > rishi > > > > > Prashant > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Prashant Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Would be interesting and educational for all of us to see you and Mr. Arjun discuss Mother Theresa's chart from that angle. Surely, the evil signature or cause for undeserved fame must be clearly present. Do you agree? RohiniraNjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Hi rajan, > > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda, rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular ones, this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying people not living. > > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat all people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost care they see all. > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who they call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do jsut for the recoerd dying as they say. > > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it for same kids onwards > > Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean dormetries, toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to go to heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO St PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism > > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the street giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work and also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC at Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. > > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these don't have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in Africa, Asia. > > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified good people form all faiths, > no bias we overplayed MT. > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant ji > > what all you said is true as they are all based on facts. > > even while appreciating the social service done by mother teresa, i > do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a devil and > was exorcised as per christian practices. i have documentary > evidence for this from christian institutions. > > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on the karma > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as even in > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are treated like > living gods. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY. > > ON MORALITY > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who became > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums anywhere > > > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms were > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million scientifically. > Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these and > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls raped, > becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society it will > be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she said NO > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal children > and suffer? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > > this is a well documented section of both the +ve and –ve. > > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for good > work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed as > communal as many do now a days as a fashion. > > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living, MT did > for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from us who > believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc. > > *-*-* > > > > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC Channel > 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we made a > hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where reason, > introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her a saint > for what? > > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you find > anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or be like > Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate her to > sainthood. > > > > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about peace > between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved the honor. > > > > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier than her > at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid regime in > S. Africa. > > > > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street children, > fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her. > > > > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did give > 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who would have > died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days. 29,000 died > in a day or two rest later max a week > > > > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine there was > a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only to feed > them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the glass of > milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry, this u > humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE DOOR TO > HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc. > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > Naliniji, > > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this forum on > the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but reading them > is a pleasure too. > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 dear prashant garu firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even pandit arjun is not my real name and it is only a penname. anyway i liked your mail since what all you mentioned are facts which none can deny. but i personally feel we can talk about individuals and not on religion as it is a highly sensitive and explosive issue. however, your mail reminsices me of some nations (not religions). in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers were a bunch of thieves who kept on looting the entire world and took back the entire world's wealth into their country. South Africa, Australia and India are only few examples. despite decades long fights, the British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond looted from our country. definitely UK will not become poor by giving back one stone that they looted five decades ago. In my definition if any nation occupies another nation by force they are looters be it USA occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying Palestine or China annexing Tibet. notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who stood in line to loot our country one after the other, the fact is that we only gained from strength to strength mainly because of our inherent vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other reasons for india's resilience and they are welcome. Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago that soon China and India would be the two supermost nations in the world beating USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising the Indian wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the Indian success story. this is the new world order in the changing world scenario. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Hi rajan, > > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda, rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular ones, this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying people not living. > > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat all people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost care they see all. > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who they call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do jsut for the recoerd dying as they say. > > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it for same kids onwards > > Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean dormetries, toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to go to heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO St PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism > > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the street giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work and also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC at Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. > > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these don't have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in Africa, Asia. > > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified good people form all faiths, > no bias we overplayed MT. > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant ji > > what all you said is true as they are all based on facts. > > even while appreciating the social service done by mother teresa, i > do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a devil and > was exorcised as per christian practices. i have documentary > evidence for this from christian institutions. > > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on the karma > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as even in > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are treated like > living gods. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY. > > ON MORALITY > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who became > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums anywhere > > > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms were > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million scientifically. > Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these and > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls raped, > becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society it will > be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she said NO > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal children > and suffer? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > > this is a well documented section of both the +ve and – ve. > > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for good > work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed as > communal as many do now a days as a fashion. > > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living, MT did > for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from us who > believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc. > > *-*-* > > > > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC Channel > 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we made a > hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where reason, > introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her a saint > for what? > > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you find > anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or be like > Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate her to > sainthood. > > > > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about peace > between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved the honor. > > > > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier than her > at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid regime in > S. Africa. > > > > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street children, > fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her. > > > > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did give > 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who would have > died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days. 29,000 died > in a day or two rest later max a week > > > > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine there was > a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only to feed > them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the glass of > milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry, this u > humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE DOOR TO > HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc. > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > Naliniji, > > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this forum on > the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but reading them > is a pleasure too. > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Friends, Nice to note:"this is the new world order in the changing world scenario"that some thing both of you could find meaning to morality.Society when it expresses compassion, and volunteers to contribute for the lot of have not's,it is no doubt becomes part of moral and is morality aspect krishnan panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant garu firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even pandit arjun is not my real name and it is only a penname. anyway i liked your mail since what all you mentioned are facts which none can deny. but i personally feel we can talk about individuals and not on religion as it is a highly sensitive and explosive issue. however, your mail reminsices me of some nations (not religions). in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers were a bunch of thieves who kept on looting the entire world and took back the entire world's wealth into their country. South Africa, Australia and India are only few examples. despite decades long fights, the British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond looted from our country. definitely UK will not become poor by giving back one stone that they looted five decades ago. In my definition if any nation occupies another nation by force they are looters be it USA occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying Palestine or China annexing Tibet. notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who stood in line to loot our country one after the other, the fact is that we only gained from strength to strength mainly because of our inherent vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other reasons for india's resilience and they are welcome. Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago that soon China and India would be the two supermost nations in the world beating USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising the Indian wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the Indian success story. this is the new world order in the changing world scenario. with best wishes arjun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Hi rajan, > > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda, rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular ones, this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying people not living. > > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat all people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost care they see all. > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who they call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do jsut for the recoerd dying as they say. > > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it for same kids onwards > > Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean dormetries, toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to go to heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO St PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism > > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the street giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work and also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC at Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. > > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these don't have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in Africa, Asia. > > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified good people form all faiths, > no bias we overplayed MT. > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant ji > > what all you said is true as they are all based on facts. > > even while appreciating the social service done by mother teresa, i > do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a devil and > was exorcised as per christian practices. i have documentary > evidence for this from christian institutions. > > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on the karma > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as even in > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are treated like > living gods. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY. > > ON MORALITY > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who became > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums anywhere > > > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms were > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million scientifically. > Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these and > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls raped, > becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society it will > be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she said NO > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal children > and suffer? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > > this is a well documented section of both the +ve and – ve. > > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for good > work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed as > communal as many do now a days as a fashion. > > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living, MT did > for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from us who > believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc. > > *-*-* > > > > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC Channel > 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we made a > hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where reason, > introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her a saint > for what? > > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you find > anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or be like > Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate her to > sainthood. > > > > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about peace > between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved the honor. > > > > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier than her > at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid regime in > S. Africa. > > > > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street children, > fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her. > > > > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did give > 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who would have > died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days. 29,000 died > in a day or two rest later max a week > > > > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine there was > a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only to feed > them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the glass of > milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry, this u > humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE DOOR TO > HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc. > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > Naliniji, > > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this forum on > the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but reading them > is a pleasure too. > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Prashantji and arjunji, Am posting a few thoughts, actually a prayer of Mother Teresa for your consideration, the thoughts could have been taken straight from Gita.Kindly read them, this is not about religion and godmen at all. Deliver me, O Jesus >From the desire of being loved, >From the desire of being extolled, >From the desire of being honoured, >From the desire of being praised, >From the desire of being preferred, >From the desire of being consulted, >From the desire of being approved, >From the desire of being popular, >From the fear of being of being humiliated, >From the fear of being despised, >From the fear of suffering rebukes, >From the fear of being slandered, >From the fear of being forgotten, from the fear of being wronged, >From the fear of being ridiculed, >From the fear of being suspected. And, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire that others might be loved more than I, That others might be more esteemed than I, That in the opinion of the world, others may increase and I decrease, That others may be chosen and I set aside, That others may be preferred to me in everything, That others may become holier than I, provided I become as holy as I should. (Mother Theresa, A Simple Path.) 24-01-2002 --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear prashant garu > > firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even > pandit arjun is > not my real name and it is only a penname. > > anyway i liked your mail since what all you > mentioned are facts > which none can deny. but i personally feel we can > talk about > individuals and not on religion as it is a highly > sensitive and > explosive issue. > > however, your mail reminsices me of some nations > (not religions). > in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers > were a bunch of > thieves who kept on looting the entire world and > took back the > entire world's wealth into their country. South > Africa, Australia > and India are only few examples. despite decades > long fights, the > British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond > looted from our > country. definitely UK will not become poor by > giving back one > stone that they looted five decades ago. In my > definition if any > nation occupies another nation by force they are > looters be it USA > occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying > Palestine or > China annexing Tibet. > > notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who > stood in line > to loot our country one after the other, the fact is > that we only > gained from strength to strength mainly because of > our inherent > vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other > reasons for india's > resilience and they are welcome. > > Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago > that soon China > and India would be the two supermost nations in the > world beating > USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising > the Indian > wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the > Indian success > story. this is the new world order in the changing > world scenario. > > with best wishes > arjun > > > , Prashant > Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > > Hi rajan, > > > > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata > amrutananda, > rama krishna mission some christian organisations > the regular ones, > this Mission of charity as they have also claime is > about dying > people not living. > > > > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals > they treat all > people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc > with utmost care > they see all. > > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 > yrs old who they > call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't > they do jsut > for the recoerd dying as they say. > > > > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like > babd does it for > same kids onwards > > > > Baba has comparitively limited resources to > missions of > charity do they have any such hospital/care > facilities for any > group. no the BBC documentry says they have > unclean dormetries, > toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u > need to > experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if > u want to go to > heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN > A TICKET TO St > PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their > knowledge given > christian baptism and they do die without a honest > consnet. so > where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to > baptism > > > > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown > fro the street > giving care collected good wil, finds from people by > his work and > also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. > did u c MoC at > Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. > > > > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. > as these don't > have facilites, use overflowing donations for > conversion in > Africa, Asia. > > > > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe > identified good > people form all faiths, > > no bias we overplayed MT. > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear > prashant ji > > > > what all you said is true as they are all based > on facts. > > > > even while appreciating the social service done > by mother > teresa, i > > do remember several years ago when she was > possessed by a devil > and > > was exorcised as per christian practices. i > have documentary > > evidence for this from christian institutions. > > > > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who > worked on the > karma > > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont > criticise as > even in > > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba > who are treated > like > > living gods. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > , > Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > > > I am not sure of what v find in > EMpTY. > > > ON MORALITY > > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor > girls who > became > > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin > America, slums anywhere > > > > > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 > that condoms were > > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a > million > scientifically. > > Why do these people who believe in abstinence > talk on these and > > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor > girls raped, > > becoming mothers will be reduced and what > burden on society it > will > > be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for > such people she > said NO > > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to > illegal > children > > and suffer? > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > > > this is a well documented section of > both the +ve and – > ve. > > > Please do see If I could appreciate a > Pakistani for > good > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Thanks Rishiji I see my weaknesses already in that simple prayer! RR , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Prashantji and arjunji, > > Am posting a few thoughts, actually a prayer of Mother > Teresa for your consideration, the thoughts could have > been taken straight from Gita.Kindly read them, this > is not about religion and godmen at all. > > Deliver me, O Jesus > > From the desire of being loved, > From the desire of being extolled, > From the desire of being honoured, > From the desire of being praised, > From the desire of being preferred, > From the desire of being consulted, > From the desire of being approved, > From the desire of being popular, > > From the fear of being of being humiliated, > From the fear of being despised, > From the fear of suffering rebukes, > From the fear of being slandered, > From the fear of being forgotten, > from the fear of being wronged, > From the fear of being ridiculed, > From the fear of being suspected. > > And, Jesus, grant me the grace > to desire that others might be loved more than I, > That others might be more esteemed than I, > That in the opinion of the world, > others may increase and I decrease, > That others may be chosen and I set aside, > That others may be preferred to me in everything, > That others may become holier than I, > provided I become as holy as I should. > > (Mother Theresa, A Simple Path.) > 24-01-2002 > > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear prashant garu > > > > firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even > > pandit arjun is > > not my real name and it is only a penname. > > > > anyway i liked your mail since what all you > > mentioned are facts > > which none can deny. but i personally feel we can > > talk about > > individuals and not on religion as it is a highly > > sensitive and > > explosive issue. > > > > however, your mail reminsices me of some nations > > (not religions). > > in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers > > were a bunch of > > thieves who kept on looting the entire world and > > took back the > > entire world's wealth into their country. South > > Africa, Australia > > and India are only few examples. despite decades > > long fights, the > > British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond > > looted from our > > country. definitely UK will not become poor by > > giving back one > > stone that they looted five decades ago. In my > > definition if any > > nation occupies another nation by force they are > > looters be it USA > > occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying > > Palestine or > > China annexing Tibet. > > > > notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who > > stood in line > > to loot our country one after the other, the fact is > > that we only > > gained from strength to strength mainly because of > > our inherent > > vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other > > reasons for india's > > resilience and they are welcome. > > > > Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago > > that soon China > > and India would be the two supermost nations in the > > world beating > > USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising > > the Indian > > wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the > > Indian success > > story. this is the new world order in the changing > > world scenario. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > > > , Prashant > > Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi rajan, > > > > > > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata > > amrutananda, > > rama krishna mission some christian organisations > > the regular ones, > > this Mission of charity as they have also claime is > > about dying > > people not living. > > > > > > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals > > they treat all > > people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc > > with utmost care > > they see all. > > > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 > > yrs old who they > > call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't > > they do jsut > > for the recoerd dying as they say. > > > > > > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like > > babd does it for > > same kids onwards > > > > > > Baba has comparitively limited resources to > > missions of > > charity do they have any such hospital/care > > facilities for any > > group. no the BBC documentry says they have > > unclean dormetries, > > toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u > > need to > > experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if > > u want to go to > > heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN > > A TICKET TO St > > PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their > > knowledge given > > christian baptism and they do die without a honest > > consnet. so > > where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to > > baptism > > > > > > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown > > fro the street > > giving care collected good wil, finds from people by > > his work and > > also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. > > did u c MoC at > > Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no. > > > > > > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. > > as these don't > > have facilites, use overflowing donations for > > conversion in > > Africa, Asia. > > > > > > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe > > identified good > > people form all faiths, > > > no bias we overplayed MT. > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear > > prashant ji > > > > > > what all you said is true as they are all based > > on facts. > > > > > > even while appreciating the social service done > > by mother > > teresa, i > > > do remember several years ago when she was > > possessed by a devil > > and > > > was exorcised as per christian practices. i > > have documentary > > > evidence for this from christian institutions. > > > > > > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who > > worked on the > > karma > > > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont > > criticise as > > even in > > > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba > > who are treated > > like > > > living gods. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > , > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA) > > > > I am not sure of what v find in > > EMpTY. > > > > ON MORALITY > > > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor > > girls who > > became > > > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin > > America, slums anywhere > > > > > > > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 > > that condoms were > > > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a > > million > > scientifically. > > > Why do these people who believe in abstinence > > talk on these and > > > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor > > girls raped, > > > becoming mothers will be reduced and what > > burden on society it > > will > > > be girls who need care giving birth to kids. > > > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for > > such people she > > said NO > > > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to > > illegal > > children > > > and suffer? > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa > > > > this is a well documented section of > > both the +ve and – > > ve. > > > > Please do see If I could appreciate a > > Pakistani for > > good > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 dear rishi ji thanks for sending the prayer of mother teresa. Jesus is the epitome of tolerance, compassion and forgiveness. what mother teresa preached and practiced is karma marga i.e. service to humanity and this is what even shri vivekanandaji said once Manav Seva Is Madhav Seva. with best wishes arjun , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Prashantji and arjunji, > > Am posting a few thoughts, actually a prayer of Mother > Teresa for your consideration, the thoughts could have > been taken straight from Gita.Kindly read them, this > is not about religion and godmen at all. > > Deliver me, O Jesus > > From the desire of being loved, > From the desire of being extolled, > From the desire of being honoured, > From the desire of being praised, > From the desire of being preferred, > From the desire of being consulted, > From the desire of being approved, > From the desire of being popular, > > From the fear of being of being humiliated, > From the fear of being despised, > From the fear of suffering rebukes, > From the fear of being slandered, > From the fear of being forgotten, > from the fear of being wronged, > From the fear of being ridiculed, > From the fear of being suspected. > > And, Jesus, grant me the grace > to desire that others might be loved more than I, > That others might be more esteemed than I, > That in the opinion of the world, > others may increase and I decrease, > That others may be chosen and I set aside, > That others may be preferred to me in everything, > That others may become holier than I, > provided I become as holy as I should. > > (Mother Theresa, A Simple Path.) > 24-01-2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Rishiji Words of true saints can be so transformative! The message changes the heart or at least the words. Even of those who were critics recently! RR , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear rishi ji > > thanks for sending the prayer of mother teresa. Jesus is the > epitome of tolerance, compassion and forgiveness. what mother > teresa preached and practiced is karma marga i.e. service to > humanity and this is what even shri vivekanandaji said once Manav > Seva Is Madhav Seva. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , rishi shukla > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > Prashantji and arjunji, > > > > Am posting a few thoughts, actually a prayer of Mother > > Teresa for your consideration, the thoughts could have > > been taken straight from Gita.Kindly read them, this > > is not about religion and godmen at all. > > > > Deliver me, O Jesus > > > > From the desire of being loved, > > From the desire of being extolled, > > From the desire of being honoured, > > From the desire of being praised, > > From the desire of being preferred, > > From the desire of being consulted, > > From the desire of being approved, > > From the desire of being popular, > > > > From the fear of being of being humiliated, > > From the fear of being despised, > > From the fear of suffering rebukes, > > From the fear of being slandered, > > From the fear of being forgotten, > > from the fear of being wronged, > > From the fear of being ridiculed, > > From the fear of being suspected. > > > > And, Jesus, grant me the grace > > to desire that others might be loved more than I, > > That others might be more esteemed than I, > > That in the opinion of the world, > > others may increase and I decrease, > > That others may be chosen and I set aside, > > That others may be preferred to me in everything, > > That others may become holier than I, > > provided I become as holy as I should. > > > > (Mother Theresa, A Simple Path.) > > 24-01-2002 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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