morality and moon's nakshatra..(response to personal insult by Arjunji)

March 3, 2006

Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here, disputed or

otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I did not

fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and antiquated ways

of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

personal flings like this!

Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have talked

about here earlier.

Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted to

being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning messes!

Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your laser

at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

RR

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow in his

> own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)disputed

> leader of JR.

>

> let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

fortunate

> members of this group.

>

> gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and they

> exist somewhere else from where the native expects to receive

> something and lives in a permanent physchological order to believe

> that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the higher

> altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep going on

in

> circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

shared

> and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i can

> quote many. these unrealised people keep marching untiringly in

> their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their destinations

> continuously on a consistent basis.

>

> Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased person,

vedas

> and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person god is

> within. all these realised persons speak truth and march inwards

> (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with which

they

> realise their self and the invisible formless god within. once

> these realised persons realise the god and align with the god

within

> they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to do and

> undo things whether one believes them or not or whether science

> accepts them or not.

>

> what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i consider

> myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing when a

> native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise only

> through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy and

> give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or her of

> the pain or suffering.

>

> once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best lunatic

> can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel the

> problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to correct

this

> doctor's observation if he is wrong.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> >

> > Friends,

> >

> > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> >

> > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> >

> > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > to belive that

> > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > that you truly

> > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > humans have no

> > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > subservient to

> > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > >

> > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > Yogananda and his

> > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > and of course

> > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > and at least that

> > > belief operates here.

> > >

> > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > everyone is equally

> > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > >

> > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > written on your garage

> > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > (planets) that

> > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > message which

> > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > life when you

> > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , vattem

> > > krishnan

> > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > beyond doubt

> > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > clear

> > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > parameters

> > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > interactions and

> > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > these some have

> > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > problems with 7th

> > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > kind of

> > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > in lives by

> > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > show his great

> > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > issue of

> > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > provides

> > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > to "do like

> > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > revealations out of

> > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > emerged and

> > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > in their stars

> > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > often veer around

> > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > stars.

> > > > krishnan

> > > >

> > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > >

> > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > stated :-)

> > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > personal

> > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > that in

> > > astrology

> > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > to morality or

> > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > dangerous red

> > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > superstition (a belief

> > > which

> > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > it critically

> > > and

> > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > informed

> > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > through data keep

> > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > some yoga, KSY

> > > or

> > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > I am not alone.

> > > >

> > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > response from you in

> > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > >

> > > > Please lead us ...

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , Ahir

> > > Bhairav

> > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > RR ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > morality and moon's

> > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > star ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Mail

> > > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying

> > > attachments.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > DIVINITY AND RELISH

> > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > >

> > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > > Astrology software

> > > >

> > > > Visit your group "" on the

> > > web.

> > > >

> > > > To from this group, send an email

> > > to:

> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > Terms of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > > Mail

> > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing

> > > a breeze.

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 3, 2006

Respected RR ji

seems like you are offended by observing you as a leader here in

which case i tender my apologies to make you happy. if you need me

to do anything else that shall make you happy please advise so and i

shall be glad to do the same as it is my objective to make others

happy. personally i have only respect and regard for you when i

started my mail by saying that you are a realised person and i

always speak the truth. would appreciate if you kindly acknowledge

my apologies and feel happy.

with best wishes and regards

arjun

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

>

> I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here, disputed or

> otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

> reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I did

not

> fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

>

> I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and antiquated

ways

> of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

> personal flings like this!

>

> Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

> callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

> proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have talked

> about here earlier.

>

> Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

> useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted to

> being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning messes!

>

> Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your laser

> at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

>

> RR

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow in

his

> > own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)disputed

> > leader of JR.

> >

> > let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

> fortunate

> > members of this group.

> >

> > gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and they

> > exist somewhere else from where the native expects to receive

> > something and lives in a permanent physchological order to

believe

> > that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> > unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the higher

> > altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep going on

> in

> > circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

> shared

> > and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i can

> > quote many. these unrealised people keep marching untiringly in

> > their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their destinations

> > continuously on a consistent basis.

> >

> > Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased person,

> vedas

> > and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person god is

> > within. all these realised persons speak truth and march

inwards

> > (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with which

> they

> > realise their self and the invisible formless god within. once

> > these realised persons realise the god and align with the god

> within

> > they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to do

and

> > undo things whether one believes them or not or whether science

> > accepts them or not.

> >

> > what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i

consider

> > myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing when

a

> > native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise only

> > through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy and

> > give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or her

of

> > the pain or suffering.

> >

> > once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best

lunatic

> > can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel the

> > problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to correct

> this

> > doctor's observation if he is wrong.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > , Tatvamasi

> > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Friends,

> > >

> > > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> > >

> > > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > > to belive that

> > > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > > that you truly

> > > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > > humans have no

> > > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > > subservient to

> > > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > > >

> > > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > > Yogananda and his

> > > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > > and of course

> > > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > > and at least that

> > > > belief operates here.

> > > >

> > > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > > everyone is equally

> > > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > > >

> > > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > > written on your garage

> > > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > > (planets) that

> > > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > > message which

> > > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > > life when you

> > > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , vattem

> > > > krishnan

> > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > > beyond doubt

> > > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > > clear

> > > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > > parameters

> > > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > > interactions and

> > > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > > these some have

> > > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > > problems with 7th

> > > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > > kind of

> > > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > > in lives by

> > > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > > show his great

> > > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > > issue of

> > > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > > provides

> > > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > > to "do like

> > > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > > revealations out of

> > > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > > emerged and

> > > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > > in their stars

> > > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > > often veer around

> > > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > > stars.

> > > > > krishnan

> > > > >

> > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > > >

> > > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > > stated :-)

> > > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > > personal

> > > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > > that in

> > > > astrology

> > > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > > to morality or

> > > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > > dangerous red

> > > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > > superstition (a belief

> > > > which

> > > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > > it critically

> > > > and

> > > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > > informed

> > > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > > through data keep

> > > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > > some yoga, KSY

> > > > or

> > > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > > I am not alone.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > > response from you in

> > > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > > >

> > > > > Please lead us ...

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ahir

> > > > Bhairav

> > > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > > morality and moon's

> > > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > > star ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mail

> > > > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying

> > > > attachments.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH

> > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > > > Astrology software

> > > > >

> > > > > Visit your group "" on the

> > > > web.

> > > > >

> > > > > To from this group, send an email

> > > > to:

> > > > >

> > > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > > Terms of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mail

> > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing

> > > > a breeze.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > >

> >

>

March 3, 2006

Mr. Arjun,

I have been observing human beings and their behaviour for decades.

Spontaneous responses and utterances always tell a lot about the

true thoughts of the expressor.

Human nature almost never changes. Exceptions are very few!

What follows after such utterances of the ID is simply social

polish, cosmetic coverup and thus meaningless in the big picture!

RR

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> Respected RR ji

>

> seems like you are offended by observing you as a leader here in

> which case i tender my apologies to make you happy. if you need

me

> to do anything else that shall make you happy please advise so and

i

> shall be glad to do the same as it is my objective to make others

> happy. personally i have only respect and regard for you when i

> started my mail by saying that you are a realised person and i

> always speak the truth. would appreciate if you kindly

acknowledge

> my apologies and feel happy.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> arjun

>

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

> >

> > I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here, disputed

or

> > otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

> > reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I did

> not

> > fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

> >

> > I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and antiquated

> ways

> > of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

> > personal flings like this!

> >

> > Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

> > callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

> > proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have talked

> > about here earlier.

> >

> > Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

> > useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted

to

> > being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning messes!

> >

> > Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your

laser

> > at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow in

> his

> > > own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)

disputed

> > > leader of JR.

> > >

> > > let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

> > fortunate

> > > members of this group.

> > >

> > > gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and

they

> > > exist somewhere else from where the native expects to receive

> > > something and lives in a permanent physchological order to

> believe

> > > that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> > > unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the higher

> > > altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep going

on

> > in

> > > circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

> > shared

> > > and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i

can

> > > quote many. these unrealised people keep marching untiringly

in

> > > their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their

destinations

> > > continuously on a consistent basis.

> > >

> > > Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased person,

> > vedas

> > > and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person god

is

> > > within. all these realised persons speak truth and march

> inwards

> > > (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with which

> > they

> > > realise their self and the invisible formless god within.

once

> > > these realised persons realise the god and align with the god

> > within

> > > they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to do

> and

> > > undo things whether one believes them or not or whether

science

> > > accepts them or not.

> > >

> > > what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i

> consider

> > > myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing

when

> a

> > > native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise

only

> > > through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy

and

> > > give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or her

> of

> > > the pain or suffering.

> > >

> > > once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best

> lunatic

> > > can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel the

> > > problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to correct

> > this

> > > doctor's observation if he is wrong.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > , Tatvamasi

> > > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > > > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > > > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > > > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > > > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > > > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > > > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > > > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> > > >

> > > > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > > > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > > > to belive that

> > > > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > > > that you truly

> > > > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > > > humans have no

> > > > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > > > subservient to

> > > > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > > > >

> > > > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > > > Yogananda and his

> > > > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > > > and of course

> > > > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > > > and at least that

> > > > > belief operates here.

> > > > >

> > > > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > > > everyone is equally

> > > > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > > > >

> > > > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > > > written on your garage

> > > > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > > > (planets) that

> > > > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > > > message which

> > > > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > > > life when you

> > > > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , vattem

> > > > > krishnan

> > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > > > beyond doubt

> > > > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > > > clear

> > > > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > > > parameters

> > > > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > > > interactions and

> > > > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > > > these some have

> > > > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > > > problems with 7th

> > > > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > > > kind of

> > > > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > > > in lives by

> > > > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > > > show his great

> > > > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > > > issue of

> > > > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > > > provides

> > > > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > > > to "do like

> > > > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > > > revealations out of

> > > > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > > > emerged and

> > > > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > > > in their stars

> > > > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > > > often veer around

> > > > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > > > stars.

> > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > > > stated :-)

> > > > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > > > personal

> > > > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > > > that in

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > > > to morality or

> > > > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > > > dangerous red

> > > > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > > > superstition (a belief

> > > > > which

> > > > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > > > it critically

> > > > > and

> > > > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > > > informed

> > > > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > > > through data keep

> > > > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > > > some yoga, KSY

> > > > > or

> > > > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > > > I am not alone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > > > response from you in

> > > > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please lead us ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Ahir

> > > > > Bhairav

> > > > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > > > morality and moon's

> > > > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > > > star ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mail

> > > > > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying

> > > > > attachments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH

> > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > > > > Astrology software

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visit your group "" on the

> > > > > web.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To from this group, send an email

> > > > > to:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > > > Terms of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mail

> > > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing

> > > > > a breeze.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> around

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 3, 2006

Dear Shri Rohini ji,

Nice that things are being taken in the perspective needed to be and better we

leave the issue as an issue of the past.Iam sure all the members would also

exercise the polished frame but not to hi back.let us pledge we have nothing in

person to any body.This platform is free of pride and prejudice

krishnan

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

Mr. Arjun,

I have been observing human beings and their behaviour for decades.

Spontaneous responses and utterances always tell a lot about the

true thoughts of the expressor.

Human nature almost never changes. Exceptions are very few!

What follows after such utterances of the ID is simply social

polish, cosmetic coverup and thus meaningless in the big picture!

RR

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> Respected RR ji

>

> seems like you are offended by observing you as a leader here in

> which case i tender my apologies to make you happy. if you need

me

> to do anything else that shall make you happy please advise so and

i

> shall be glad to do the same as it is my objective to make others

> happy. personally i have only respect and regard for you when i

> started my mail by saying that you are a realised person and i

> always speak the truth. would appreciate if you kindly

acknowledge

> my apologies and feel happy.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> arjun

>

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

> >

> > I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here, disputed

or

> > otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

> > reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I did

> not

> > fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

> >

> > I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and antiquated

> ways

> > of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

> > personal flings like this!

> >

> > Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

> > callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

> > proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have talked

> > about here earlier.

> >

> > Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

> > useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted

to

> > being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning messes!

> >

> > Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your

laser

> > at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow in

> his

> > > own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)

disputed

> > > leader of JR.

> > >

> > > let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

> > fortunate

> > > members of this group.

> > >

> > > gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and

they

> > > exist somewhere else from where the native expects to receive

> > > something and lives in a permanent physchological order to

> believe

> > > that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> > > unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the higher

> > > altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep going

on

> > in

> > > circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

> > shared

> > > and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i

can

> > > quote many. these unrealised people keep marching untiringly

in

> > > their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their

destinations

> > > continuously on a consistent basis.

> > >

> > > Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased person,

> > vedas

> > > and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person god

is

> > > within. all these realised persons speak truth and march

> inwards

> > > (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with which

> > they

> > > realise their self and the invisible formless god within.

once

> > > these realised persons realise the god and align with the god

> > within

> > > they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to do

> and

> > > undo things whether one believes them or not or whether

science

> > > accepts them or not.

> > >

> > > what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i

> consider

> > > myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing

when

> a

> > > native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise

only

> > > through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy

and

> > > give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or her

> of

> > > the pain or suffering.

> > >

> > > once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best

> lunatic

> > > can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel the

> > > problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to correct

> > this

> > > doctor's observation if he is wrong.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > , Tatvamasi

> > > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > > > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > > > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > > > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > > > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > > > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > > > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > > > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> > > >

> > > > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > > > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > > > to belive that

> > > > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > > > that you truly

> > > > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > > > humans have no

> > > > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > > > subservient to

> > > > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > > > >

> > > > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > > > Yogananda and his

> > > > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > > > and of course

> > > > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > > > and at least that

> > > > > belief operates here.

> > > > >

> > > > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > > > everyone is equally

> > > > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > > > >

> > > > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > > > written on your garage

> > > > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > > > (planets) that

> > > > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > > > message which

> > > > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > > > life when you

> > > > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , vattem

> > > > > krishnan

> > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > > > beyond doubt

> > > > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > > > clear

> > > > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > > > parameters

> > > > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > > > interactions and

> > > > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > > > these some have

> > > > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > > > problems with 7th

> > > > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > > > kind of

> > > > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > > > in lives by

> > > > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > > > show his great

> > > > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > > > issue of

> > > > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > > > provides

> > > > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > > > to "do like

> > > > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > > > revealations out of

> > > > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > > > emerged and

> > > > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > > > in their stars

> > > > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > > > often veer around

> > > > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > > > stars.

> > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > > > stated :-)

> > > > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > > > personal

> > > > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > > > that in

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > > > to morality or

> > > > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > > > dangerous red

> > > > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > > > superstition (a belief

> > > > > which

> > > > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > > > it critically

> > > > > and

> > > > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > > > informed

> > > > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > > > through data keep

> > > > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > > > some yoga, KSY

> > > > > or

> > > > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > > > I am not alone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > > > response from you in

> > > > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please lead us ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Ahir

> > > > > Bhairav

> > > > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > > > morality and moon's

> > > > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > > > star ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mail

> > > > > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying

> > > > > attachments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH

> > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart

> > > > > Astrology software

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visit your group "" on the

> > > > > web.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To from this group, send an email

> > > > > to:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the

> > > > > Terms of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mail

> > > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing

> > > > > a breeze.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> around

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF

ABSOLUTE BLISS.

Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software

Visit your group "" on the web.

Mail

Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

March 3, 2006

what is 'hi back'?

Maybe later!

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini ji,

> Nice that things are being taken in the perspective needed to be

and better we leave the issue as an issue of the past.Iam sure all

the members would also exercise the polished frame but not to hi

back.let us pledge we have nothing in person to any body.This

platform is free of pride and prejudice

> krishnan

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> Mr. Arjun,

>

> I have been observing human beings and their behaviour for

decades.

> Spontaneous responses and utterances always tell a lot about the

> true thoughts of the expressor.

> Human nature almost never changes. Exceptions are very few!

>

> What follows after such utterances of the ID is simply social

> polish, cosmetic coverup and thus meaningless in the big picture!

>

> RR

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RR ji

> >

> > seems like you are offended by observing you as a leader here in

> > which case i tender my apologies to make you happy. if you need

> me

> > to do anything else that shall make you happy please advise so

and

> i

> > shall be glad to do the same as it is my objective to make

others

> > happy. personally i have only respect and regard for you when i

> > started my mail by saying that you are a realised person and i

> > always speak the truth. would appreciate if you kindly

> acknowledge

> > my apologies and feel happy.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

> > >

> > > I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here,

disputed

> or

> > > otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

> > > reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I

did

> > not

> > > fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

> > >

> > > I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and

antiquated

> > ways

> > > of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

> > > personal flings like this!

> > >

> > > Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

> > > callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

> > > proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have

talked

> > > about here earlier.

> > >

> > > Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

> > > useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted

> to

> > > being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning

messes!

> > >

> > > Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your

> laser

> > > at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow

in

> > his

> > > > own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)

> disputed

> > > > leader of JR.

> > > >

> > > > let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

> > > fortunate

> > > > members of this group.

> > > >

> > > > gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and

> they

> > > > exist somewhere else from where the native expects to

receive

> > > > something and lives in a permanent physchological order to

> > believe

> > > > that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> > > > unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the

higher

> > > > altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep

going

> on

> > > in

> > > > circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

> > > shared

> > > > and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i

> can

> > > > quote many. these unrealised people keep marching

untiringly

> in

> > > > their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their

> destinations

> > > > continuously on a consistent basis.

> > > >

> > > > Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased

person,

> > > vedas

> > > > and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person

god

> is

> > > > within. all these realised persons speak truth and march

> > inwards

> > > > (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with

which

> > > they

> > > > realise their self and the invisible formless god within.

> once

> > > > these realised persons realise the god and align with the

god

> > > within

> > > > they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to

do

> > and

> > > > undo things whether one believes them or not or whether

> science

> > > > accepts them or not.

> > > >

> > > > what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i

> > consider

> > > > myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing

> when

> > a

> > > > native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise

> only

> > > > through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy

> and

> > > > give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or

her

> > of

> > > > the pain or suffering.

> > > >

> > > > once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best

> > lunatic

> > > > can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel

the

> > > > problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to

correct

> > > this

> > > > doctor's observation if he is wrong.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > arjun

> > > >

> > > > , Tatvamasi

> > > > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > > > > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > > > > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > > > > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > > > > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > > > > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > > > > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > > > > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > > > > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > > > > to belive that

> > > > > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > > > > that you truly

> > > > > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > > > > humans have no

> > > > > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > > > > subservient to

> > > > > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > > > > Yogananda and his

> > > > > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > > > > and of course

> > > > > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > > > > and at least that

> > > > > > belief operates here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > > > > everyone is equally

> > > > > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > > > > written on your garage

> > > > > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > > > > (planets) that

> > > > > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > > > > message which

> > > > > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > > > > life when you

> > > > > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , vattem

> > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > > > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > > > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > > > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > > > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > > > > beyond doubt

> > > > > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > > > > clear

> > > > > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > > > > parameters

> > > > > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > > > > interactions and

> > > > > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > > > > these some have

> > > > > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > > > > problems with 7th

> > > > > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > > > > kind of

> > > > > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > > > > in lives by

> > > > > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > > > > show his great

> > > > > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > > > > issue of

> > > > > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > > > > provides

> > > > > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > > > > to "do like

> > > > > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > > > > revealations out of

> > > > > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > > > > emerged and

> > > > > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > > > > in their stars

> > > > > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > > > > often veer around

> > > > > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > > > > stars.

> > > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > > > > stated :-)

> > > > > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > > > > that in

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > > > > to morality or

> > > > > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > > > > dangerous red

> > > > > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > > > > superstition (a belief

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > > > > it critically

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > > > > informed

> > > > > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > > > > through data keep

> > > > > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > > > > some yoga, KSY

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > > > > I am not alone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > > > > response from you in

> > > > > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please lead us ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ahir

> > > > > > Bhairav

> > > > > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > > > > morality and moon's

> > > > > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > > > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > > > > star ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

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