morality and moon's nakshatra..(for RR ji)

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dear RR Ji

 

since you addressed this mail in my name, i must answer. i hope the

matter is closed when i SPONTANEOUSLY tendered apologies and no need

to call firefighters.

 

with best wishes

arjun

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> Mr. Arjun,

>

> I have been observing human beings and their behaviour for

decades.

> Spontaneous responses and utterances always tell a lot about the

> true thoughts of the expressor.

> Human nature almost never changes. Exceptions are very few!

>

> What follows after such utterances of the ID is simply social

> polish, cosmetic coverup and thus meaningless in the big picture!

>

> RR

>

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RR ji

> >

> > seems like you are offended by observing you as a leader here in

> > which case i tender my apologies to make you happy. if you need

> me

> > to do anything else that shall make you happy please advise so

and

> i

> > shall be glad to do the same as it is my objective to make

others

> > happy. personally i have only respect and regard for you when i

> > started my mail by saying that you are a realised person and i

> > always speak the truth. would appreciate if you kindly

> acknowledge

> > my apologies and feel happy.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sorry if I hit some sensitive button Mr. Arjun!

> > >

> > > I am not and have never claimed to be the leader here,

disputed

> or

> > > otherwise. So please do not get personal for whatever personal

> > > reasons and issues you have, which I am unaware of -- but I

did

> > not

> > > fall off the turnip truck yesterday!

> > >

> > > I am pushing some buttons, obviously, some stale and

antiquated

> > ways

> > > of thinking, but that does not mean that I will tolerate any

> > > personal flings like this!

> > >

> > > Please keep your personal attributions and in that sense 'name-

> > > callings' to yourself. This is not in keeping with your self-

> > > proclaimed monastic, austere spiritual way that you have

talked

> > > about here earlier.

> > >

> > > Also, I do not want you to misuse your internet cafe time for

> > > useless pursuits like trashing 'RRji' who has already admitted

> to

> > > being this janitor at this high school and busy cleaning

messes!

> > >

> > > Please do not take it personally, but since you pointed your

> laser

> > > at me by name, I must respond, because that is my right!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > in the last few mails, RR ji let his reliased thoughts flow

in

> > his

> > > > own uninimitable style. needless to say RR is the (un)

> disputed

> > > > leader of JR.

> > > >

> > > > let me share my own realisation experiences with the more

> > > fortunate

> > > > members of this group.

> > > >

> > > > gods and planets are like ATMs for an unrealised person and

> they

> > > > exist somewhere else from where the native expects to

receive

> > > > something and lives in a permanent physchological order to

> > believe

> > > > that his wealth is somewhere else in these ATMs. Also these

> > > > unrealised persons believe that god is somewhere in the

higher

> > > > altitudes or in the caves and in that process they keep

going

> on

> > > in

> > > > circles to find god nowhere. all great realised people have

> > > shared

> > > > and penned these experiences in their autobiographies and i

> can

> > > > quote many. these unrealised people keep marching

untiringly

> in

> > > > their bahar yatra forever endlessly changing their

> destinations

> > > > continuously on a consistent basis.

> > > >

> > > > Gita (can give verse numbers) says that for a reliased

person,

> > > vedas

> > > > and shastras are meaningless. also for a realised person

god

> is

> > > > within. all these realised persons speak truth and march

> > inwards

> > > > (antar yatra) and control their body, mind and soul with

which

> > > they

> > > > realise their self and the invisible formless god within.

> once

> > > > these realised persons realise the god and align with the

god

> > > within

> > > > they are gods. these realised persons possess the power to

do

> > and

> > > > undo things whether one believes them or not or whether

> science

> > > > accepts them or not.

> > > >

> > > > what people like me does is a psychic job which is why i

> > consider

> > > > myself a healer first and an astrologer second. in healing

> when

> > a

> > > > native comes with a problem with a pre-mindset to diagnoise

> only

> > > > through planets, we speak the native's language with empathy

> and

> > > > give him or her the much needed healing and relieve him or

her

> > of

> > > > the pain or suffering.

> > > >

> > > > once a customer who is a doctor mentioned that only a best

> > lunatic

> > > > can treat and cure the lunatics as he only knows and feel

the

> > > > problems of a lunatic. request more learnt members to

correct

> > > this

> > > > doctor's observation if he is wrong.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > arjun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Tatvamasi

> > > > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > A horoscope is true representation of a person's

> > > > > chromosomal(genetic) structure.

> > > > > Planets and their placements in different houses

> > > > > indicate genes placement and they have specific

> > > > > predefined course of actionwhich can be equated to

> > > > > a genetic code of a plant which gives only specific

> > > > > colour to a flower etc. You alter such properties by

> > > > > sexual cross pollination/gene mutation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Speaking about freewill, may be it is also your fate

> > > > > that you exercise freewill. God knows the truth.

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Through your statement below "Many people were led

> > > > > > to belive that

> > > > > > they were let down ..] I am getting the impression

> > > > > > that you truly

> > > > > > believe that planets make things happen, and hence

> > > > > > humans have no

> > > > > > free-will or freedom of choice and that we are

> > > > > > subservient to

> > > > > > astrological factors -- all of us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I disagree. We have only recently talked about

> > > > > > Yogananda and his

> > > > > > statements and how he overcame planetary restraints

> > > > > > and of course

> > > > > > this forum is about remedies, about changing fate

> > > > > > and at least that

> > > > > > belief operates here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My viewpoint indicates that this is not so. Not

> > > > > > everyone is equally

> > > > > > subservient to planets. Planets are just alphabets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To use a very graphic example. A HATE message

> > > > > > written on your garage

> > > > > > is ver hurtful, powerful, but it is not the letters

> > > > > > (planets) that

> > > > > > give that negative emotional impact to that hate

> > > > > > message which

> > > > > > brought about this transformational moment in your

> > > > > > life when you

> > > > > > came back home and saw the hate message!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , vattem

> > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All 27 asterisms contribute to morality as well as

> > > > > > leaders.Aslesha

> > > > > > is no exceptio as world has seen what Mahatma

> > > > > > Gandhi,Paul Macartney

> > > > > > and oscar wilde.

> > > > > > > The Stars certainly have say in all aspects and

> > > > > > beyond doubt

> > > > > > morality as an instinct too comes as a contribution.

> > > > > > > If we do not really mix up and able to steer for

> > > > > > clear

> > > > > > views,Astrology as an assorted subjects has several

> > > > > > parameters

> > > > > > including signs,houses and bhavas and the

> > > > > > interactions and

> > > > > > conjunctions that gets imposed and influence life.Of

> > > > > > these some have

> > > > > > no issues with Mars in Cancer and other have no

> > > > > > problems with 7th

> > > > > > jupiter.If these for a moment are considered as some

> > > > > > kind of

> > > > > > exceptions,many people find that they were let down

> > > > > > in lives by

> > > > > > these conjunctions and aspects.

> > > > > > > But a leader is one who is able to overcome and

> > > > > > show his great

> > > > > > and has a binding(at least the will to achieve).This

> > > > > > issue of

> > > > > > morality(commitment) has pronounced visibility that

> > > > > > provides

> > > > > > opportunity(considering as role model) to some thing

> > > > > > to "do like

> > > > > > that".Astrology in deep perspective could make

> > > > > > revealations out of

> > > > > > stars.The so called leaders where ever they have

> > > > > > emerged and

> > > > > > contributed for the goodwill of universe have base

> > > > > > in their stars

> > > > > > irrespective of Rahu,ketu and saturn etc which we

> > > > > > often veer around

> > > > > > and fail to appreciate the positive aspects of

> > > > > > stars.

> > > > > > > krishnan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ragaji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I had to say about morality, I have already

> > > > > > stated :-)

> > > > > > > I have also repeatedly stated my views based on

> > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > observations that it is futile to begin to believe

> > > > > > that in

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > opinions like "what ashlesha represents or will do

> > > > > > to morality or

> > > > > > > mars in cancer would or jupiter in 7th would" are

> > > > > > dangerous red

> > > > > > > herrings. And these start a myth and a

> > > > > > superstition (a belief

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > is held without challenging it, without observing

> > > > > > it critically

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > often just basing judgment on hearsay and not even

> > > > > > informed

> > > > > > > anecdotal evidence). I am opposed to that and

> > > > > > through data keep

> > > > > > > demonstrating and challenging such myths, be they

> > > > > > some yoga, KSY

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > sadesati or whatever. And I am happy to note that

> > > > > > I am not alone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am waiting now for an informed astrological

> > > > > > response from you in

> > > > > > > this new leadership role you have volunteered for!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please lead us ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ahir

> > > > > > Bhairav

> > > > > > > <aahir_bhairav@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please continue your discussion on

> > > > > > morality and moon's

> > > > > > > nakshatra ? What is your observation about

> > > > > > Aslesha, the clinging

> > > > > > > star ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

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