MORALITY and MT 4/3/06 part-3

[Guest guest]

Hi Arjun

I am sorry for the mistake but even before reading this mail in a later mail

have written as Arjun `open to debate' sure I agree with all u said as i also

share the similar thoughts on invasion/occupation, except Isreal of course

thouugh not our problem, as after all the 3 major religions who share the old

testament r from there and it is better all of them live and share the region

as a CORPORATE PLACE, SHARE THE SPOILS RELIGIOUS AREAS, TOURISM etc.

and probably share some land with any neighbouring country for Palestine and

all visit their holy places as siekhs go to Pak for Nankasaheb, or Indians to

china in CHina, than try to eliminate the other as a solution..or as all

muslims go to Mecca.

 

but the rhetoric comming from there is

Hinduism, Buddism, Jainism is GOD VERSION 0

JUDAISM VER 1

CHRISTANITY VER 2

ISLAM VER 3 the latest and youngest and the poweful one and if you u have

heard Mushraff speak on 9/19 after 9/11 HE clearly tells the Paki nation that

he is going to repeat the same formula that was used to get that land

(Jerusalem durig Muhmad times] one against other -a treaty when ur rival is

attacked keep silent [as u've signed the no war treaty] and after sometime when

the jews were already badly beatn by their common enemy they Invaded and

occupied that land [which Isreal later by decipt occupied in 67] so he says

tractfully he will use USA and nudge India and USA at the right time.

 

but religion sure is dead or dying as it is money the only god that will

remain and TV has surely erased all moral bases for all civilisations, which

cinema did a few levels, TV has done million times more damage. so it is

VINASHA KALA VIPAREETHA BUDHI [in times of destruction our intellect fails,

like fire flies get sucked into the fire] coupled with Buddhi Marma anusare.

[inteelect is driven by fate]

 

 

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant garu

 

firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even pandit arjun is

not my real name and it is only a penname.

 

anyway i liked your mail since what all you mentioned are facts

which none can deny. but i personally feel we can talk about

individuals and not on religion as it is a highly sensitive and

explosive issue.

 

however, your mail reminsices me of some nations (not religions).

in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers were a bunch of

thieves who kept on looting the entire world and took back the

entire world's wealth into their country. South Africa, Australia

and India are only few examples. despite decades long fights, the

British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond looted from our

country. definitely UK will not become poor by giving back one

stone that they looted five decades ago. In my definition if any

nation occupies another nation by force they are looters be it USA

occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying Palestine or

China annexing Tibet.

 

notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who stood in line

to loot our country one after the other, the fact is that we only

gained from strength to strength mainly because of our inherent

vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other reasons for india's

resilience and they are welcome.

 

Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago that soon China

and India would be the two supermost nations in the world beating

USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising the Indian

wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the Indian success

story. this is the new world order in the changing world scenario.

 

with best wishes

arjun

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hi arjan,

>

> Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda,

rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular ones,

this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying

people not living.

>

> Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat all

people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost care

they see all.

> but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who they

call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do jsut

for the recoerd dying as they say.

>

> the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it for

same kids onwards

>

> Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of

charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any

group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean dormetries,

toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to

experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to go to

heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO St

PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given

christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so

where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism

>

> abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the street

giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work and

also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC at

Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no.

>

> Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these don't

have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in

Africa, Asia.

>

> I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified good

people form all faiths,

> no bias we overplayed MT.

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear

prashant ji

>

> what all you said is true as they are all based on facts.

>

> even while appreciating the social service done by mother

teresa, i

> do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a devil

and

> was exorcised as per christian practices. i have documentary

> evidence for this from christian institutions.

>

> to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on the

karma

> marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as

even in

> india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are treated

like

> living gods.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA)

> > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY.

> > ON MORALITY

> > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who

became

> mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums anywhere

> >

> > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms were

> unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million

scientifically.

> Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these and

> that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls raped,

> becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society it

will

> be girls who need care giving birth to kids.

> > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she

said NO

> > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal

children

> and suffer?

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

> > this is a well documented section of both the +ve and –

ve.

> > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for

good

> work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed as

> communal as many do now a days as a fashion.

> > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living, MT

did

> for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from us

who

> believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc.

> > *-*-*

> >

> > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC

Channel

> 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we made

a

> hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where

reason,

> introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her a

saint

> for what?

> > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you

find

> anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or be

like

> Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate her to

> sainthood.

> >

> > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about peace

> between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved the

honor.

> >

> > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier than

her

> at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid regime

in

> S. Africa.

> >

> > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street

children,

> fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her.

> >

> > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did

give

> 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who would

have

> died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days. 29,000

died

> in a day or two rest later max a week

> >

> > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine there

was

> a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only to

feed

> them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the glass

of

> milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry,

this u

> humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE DOOR

TO

> HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc.

> >

> > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > Naliniji,

> > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this forum

on

> the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but reading

them

> is a pleasure too.

> > regards

> >

> > rishi

> >

> > Prashant

 

Prashant

 

 

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