Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri Krishna, the Prince of Satyug nor Sage Vyasa?

March 4, 2006

Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is compiled by Sage

Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the Creator of Sri Krishna's

role?

Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we following Sage

Vyasa?

Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and Srimad Bhagwatham?

Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the character was

used by Sage Vyasa to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of

Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri Krishna.The

significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of Gita is actually to

depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the end of Kaliyug.

Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used instead of God

Sri Sri Shiv is that during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only

recollect only a part of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs and

there is no clear introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv, God Shiv descend

only during the end of Kaliyug to give the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita.

Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

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Friends,

As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he

does not bother about who/how of food preparer or

preparation.

Thirst for Atma shakshatar and Atma kalyan is quenched

by Srimad Bhavagvatam or Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is

immaterial.

Tatvam-Asi

--- B K <bkgswu wrote:

> Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and

> Arjuna is compiled by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham

> too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the Creator of Sri

> Krishna's role?

>

> Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita

> or are we following Sage Vyasa?

>

> Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri

> Krishna and Srimad Bhagwatham?

>

> Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during

> Satyug, Heaven,the character was used by Sage Vyasa

> to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human

> beings of Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

>

> It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of

> Gita not Sri Krishna.The significance of considering

> Sri Krishna as revealer of Gita is actually to

> depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the end of

> Kaliyug.

>

> Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was

> wrongly used instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that

> during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only

> recollect only a part of happenings throughout the

> World Cycle of 5000 yrs and there is no clear

> introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv, God

> Shiv descend only during the end of Kaliyug to give

> the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita.

>

> Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

> Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

>

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March 4, 2006

What is the identification that we have quenched the thirst of Atma sakshatkar

or Atma Kalyan?

Are we able to get rid of the vices of Lust, Anger, Greed, Desire, Ego and

Attachment.?

Are we able to have good wishes towards our selves and others?

Do we have the Power of Purity, Power to concentrate, to judge, to pack up, to

tolerate, to face the difficulties, to withdraw, to accomodate,?

Are we able to realize our original nature of Purity, Knowledge, Peace, Love,

Hapiness, Bliss and Powers?

Are we able to give and take Blessings?

Are we able to forget the past, live in present and create our own future?

To realize the above, by the Knowledge of Shrimat, the real Gita given by God

Shiv Himself at the end of this Kaliyug, please visit your nearby local Centre

of B K World Godly University at: http://www.bkwsu.org

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

Re: Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri Krishna, the Prince

of Satyug nor Sage Vyasa?

Friends,

As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he does not bother about

who/how of food preparer or preparation. Thirst for Atma shakshatar and Atma

kalyan is quenched by Srimad Bhavagvatam or Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is

immaterial.

Tatvam-Asi

--- B K <bkgswu wrote:

Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is compiled by Sage

Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the Creator of Sri Krishna's

role?

Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we following Sage

Vyasa?

Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and Srimad

Bhagwatham?

Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the character was

used by Sage Vyasa

to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of Dwapar (Yug of

Duality) Yug.

It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri Krishna.The

significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of Gita is actually to

depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the end of Kaliyug.

Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used instead of God

Sri Sri Shiv is that

during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only recollect only a part

of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs and there is no clear

introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv, God Shiv descend only during the

end of Kaliyug to give the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita.

Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

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Raja Gopalan ji has rightly observed importance of these epics and the moral

conveyed than how and who?

Desrves all credit for such nice way in layman's understanding

krishnan

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

Friends,

As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he

does not bother about who/how of food preparer or

preparation.

Thirst for Atma shakshatar and Atma kalyan is quenched

by Srimad Bhavagvatam or Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is

immaterial.

Tatvam-Asi

--- B K <bkgswu wrote:

> Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and

> Arjuna is compiled by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham

> too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the Creator of Sri

> Krishna's role?

>

> Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita

> or are we following Sage Vyasa?

>

> Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri

> Krishna and Srimad Bhagwatham?

>

> Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during

> Satyug, Heaven,the character was used by Sage Vyasa

> to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human

> beings of Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

>

> It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of

> Gita not Sri Krishna.The significance of considering

> Sri Krishna as revealer of Gita is actually to

> depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the end of

> Kaliyug.

>

> Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was

> wrongly used instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that

> during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only

> recollect only a part of happenings throughout the

> World Cycle of 5000 yrs and there is no clear

> introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv, God

> Shiv descend only during the end of Kaliyug to give

> the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita.

>

> Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

> Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

>

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March 5, 2006

Dear Divine Soul,

The total World Cycle is of 5000 years . Satyug, Treta, Dwapar and Kaliyug

each 1250 yrs. Sri Krishna is the Most Beautiful Prince of Satyug who is praised

as sola (16) kala Sampooran, Sampooran nirvikari, ahmsa..... Sri Krishna and

Sri Radhe after coronation , they are called as Lakshmi and Narayan together as

Vishnu - showing Two hands of Lakshmi and two hands of Narayan.

The world Cycle begins with Satyug where people live in soul conscious, there

is only one religion exists called as Adi sanatan Devi Devta Dharam. Then comes

Treta Yug where the Kingdom is ruled by Sri Rama and Sri Sita.

During Satyug and Treta, it was Heaven and there was no need to worship God

Shiv because all are Happy for ever, no vices, no quarrels, no doctors, no

judges, no Ministers(The Kings are so powerful that they do not require

minsiters for advice), it is only Peace, love and Happiness.

Then comes Dwapar yug where duality begins, all different religions,

scriptures come to exist and Kaliyug comes with the domination of Ravan of 10

heads - 5 vices of male and 5 vices of female.

People start worshipping God Shiv from Dwapar to save them from the clutches

of vices and God Shiv descend on earth at the end of Kaliyug , when the vices

dominate to the maximum extent, to give the real Gita, Knowledge to save the

human souls from the vices of Lust, Anger, Greed, Ego and attachment, through

Brahma, so that those who become pure by the Knowledge given by God Shiv through

Brahma, will come again in the Satyug when the World Cycle repeats.

Shankar is shown in Tapaswi form is the identification of souls who practice

the Shrimat given by God Shiv at the end of this Kaliyug, who prepare themselves

to come in Satyug.

So, Absolutely there is no conflict between, Sri Krishna, Shankar, Brahma,

Vishnu, Sri Lakshmi Narayan.

Krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

Dear Prabhu,

I appreciate your devotion to Lord Shiva . Also, I wish to state the

following to avoid unnecessary conflict between different pathis in Vedic faith

:

Gita was spoken to Arjuna by Lord Krishna and it was included into

Mahabharata by Sage Vyasa . As such the creator of Gita is Krishna Himself and

noneelse.

Vyasa is an eternal divine Sage. He wrote Bhagavatam . Also he has compiled

18 Puranas in order to enable ordinary men and women to understand the concepts

of Vedanta . He has not fabricated things of his own but followed the Vedas

while compiling the puranas.

GOD is one only . He has different manifestations . When Lord Krishna showed

His cosmic form (Visvarupam) , one of the faces was that of Lord Shiva.

GOD’s purely sattvic form is Vishnu, Rajasvic+Sattvic form is Brahma ,

Sattvic+Tamasvic form is Shiva . A devotee can worship GOD by choosing any one

of these forms according to his taste.

Sri Sankararacharya was an incarnation of Lord Shiva and he worshipped Lord

Krishna by singing the hymn ‘Bhajagovindam’ . Sage Parasurama and King Sri Rama

were incarnations of Lord Vishnu and they worshipped Lord Shiva . Lord Shiva’s

Shivlingam is present in the Vaishnava temples and is adored by the devotees.

Lord Shiva , who is ever present is very kind to these devotees as we can find

in numerous legends.

In view of the above, there is no scope for conflict between these faiths . A

person can worship GOD as Krishna, Shiva , Ganesha , Surya, Durga or Subramanya

according to his/her taste . I am a Vaishnava . But I never forget to offer my

obesisances to the above said manifestations of GOD , faithfully.

Your servant ,

Krishnadaya .

B K <bkgswu

Sun Mar 5, 2006 10:54am

Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri Krishna, the Prince of

Satyug nor Sage Vyasa? -

Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is compiled by Sage

Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the Creator of Sri Krishna's

role?

Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we following Sage

Vyasa?

Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and Srimad Bhagwatham?

Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the character was

used by Sage Vyasa to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of

Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri Krishna.The

significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of Gita is actually to

depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the end of Kaliyug.

Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used instead of God Sri

Sri Shiv is that during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only recollect

only a part of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs and there is no

clear introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv, God Shiv descend only during

the end of Kaliyug to give the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita

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To your first question, the answer is: You do not get born again!

, B K <bkgswu wrote:

>

> What is the identification that we have quenched the thirst of

Atma sakshatkar or Atma Kalyan?

> Are we able to get rid of the vices of Lust, Anger, Greed,

Desire, Ego and Attachment.?

> Are we able to have good wishes towards our selves and others?

> Do we have the Power of Purity, Power to concentrate, to judge,

to pack up, to tolerate, to face the difficulties, to withdraw, to

accomodate,?

> Are we able to realize our original nature of Purity, Knowledge,

Peace, Love, Hapiness, Bliss and Powers?

> Are we able to give and take Blessings?

> Are we able to forget the past, live in present and create our

own future?

>

> To realize the above, by the Knowledge of Shrimat, the real Gita

given by God Shiv Himself at the end of this Kaliyug, please visit

your nearby local Centre of B K World Godly University at:

http://www.bkwsu.org

>

> Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

> Re: Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri

Krishna, the Prince of Satyug nor Sage Vyasa?

> Friends,

> As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he does not

bother about who/how of food preparer or preparation. Thirst for

Atma shakshatar and Atma kalyan is quenched by Srimad Bhavagvatam or

Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is immaterial.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> --- B K <bkgswu wrote:

> Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is

compiled by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa,

the Creator of Sri Krishna's role?

> Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we

following Sage Vyasa?

> Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and

Srimad Bhagwatham?

> Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the

character was used by Sage Vyasa

> to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of

Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

> It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri

Krishna.The significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of

Gita is actually to depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the

end of Kaliyug.

> Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used

instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that

> during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only recollect

only a part of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs

and there is no clear introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv,

God Shiv descend only during the end of Kaliyug to give the Right

Knowledge, the Real Gita.

>

> Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

> Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

>

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March 5, 2006

"Are we able to forget the past, live in present and create our own

future?"being the golden principle of the life on earth,there is something

always in hold.For this we need to learn to get away from the past and live in

the present and look for a future to make some imprints of every one us to find

something we have done better from past and is different

krishnan

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

To your first question, the answer is: You do not get born again!

, B K <bkgswu wrote:

>

> What is the identification that we have quenched the thirst of

Atma sakshatkar or Atma Kalyan?

> Are we able to get rid of the vices of Lust, Anger, Greed,

Desire, Ego and Attachment.?

> Are we able to have good wishes towards our selves and others?

> Do we have the Power of Purity, Power to concentrate, to judge,

to pack up, to tolerate, to face the difficulties, to withdraw, to

accomodate,?

> Are we able to realize our original nature of Purity, Knowledge,

Peace, Love, Hapiness, Bliss and Powers?

> Are we able to give and take Blessings?

> Are we able to forget the past, live in present and create our

own future?

>

> To realize the above, by the Knowledge of Shrimat, the real Gita

given by God Shiv Himself at the end of this Kaliyug, please visit

your nearby local Centre of B K World Godly University at:

http://www.bkwsu.org

>

> Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

> Re: Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri

Krishna, the Prince of Satyug nor Sage Vyasa?

> Friends,

> As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he does not

bother about who/how of food preparer or preparation. Thirst for

Atma shakshatar and Atma kalyan is quenched by Srimad Bhavagvatam or

Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is immaterial.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> --- B K <bkgswu wrote:

> Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is

compiled by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa,

the Creator of Sri Krishna's role?

> Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we

following Sage Vyasa?

> Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and

Srimad Bhagwatham?

> Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the

character was used by Sage Vyasa

> to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of

Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

> It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri

Krishna.The significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of

Gita is actually to depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the

end of Kaliyug.

> Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used

instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that

> during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only recollect

only a part of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs

and there is no clear introdcution of the actual role of God Shiv,

God Shiv descend only during the end of Kaliyug to give the Right

Knowledge, the Real Gita.

>

> Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

> Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

>

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Dear BK,

The following response needs a qualifier, hence adding it here, just

for completeness. This is based on the presumption that SOUL as

described in organized religions and their outpourings being the

reality. I would like to leave some room for other viewpoints,

religious and non-religious and para-religious, which may have

different descriptions for what is loosely referred to as Soul!

RR

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> To your first question, the answer is: You do not get born again!

>

> , B K <bkgswu@> wrote:

> >

> > What is the identification that we have quenched the thirst of

> Atma sakshatkar or Atma Kalyan?

> > Are we able to get rid of the vices of Lust, Anger, Greed,

> Desire, Ego and Attachment.?

> > Are we able to have good wishes towards our selves and others?

> > Do we have the Power of Purity, Power to concentrate, to

judge,

> to pack up, to tolerate, to face the difficulties, to withdraw, to

> accomodate,?

> > Are we able to realize our original nature of Purity,

Knowledge,

> Peace, Love, Hapiness, Bliss and Powers?

> > Are we able to give and take Blessings?

> > Are we able to forget the past, live in present and create our

> own future?

> >

> > To realize the above, by the Knowledge of Shrimat, the real

Gita

> given by God Shiv Himself at the end of this Kaliyug, please

visit

> your nearby local Centre of B K World Godly University at:

> http://www.bkwsu.org

> >

> > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@

> > Re: Gita's God is Sri Sri God Shiv - neither Sri

> Krishna, the Prince of Satyug nor Sage Vyasa?

> > Friends,

> > As a lay man, I feel that if one is really hungry, he does not

> bother about who/how of food preparer or preparation. Thirst for

> Atma shakshatar and Atma kalyan is quenched by Srimad Bhavagvatam

or

> Bagwat Geeta. Who wrote it is immaterial.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > --- B K <bkgswu@ wrote:

> > Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is

> compiled by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage

Vyasa,

> the Creator of Sri Krishna's role?

> > Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we

> following Sage Vyasa?

> > Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and

> Srimad Bhagwatham?

> > Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug,

Heaven,the

> character was used by Sage Vyasa

> > to write His own ideas as Shastras to help Human beings of

> Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

> > It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not

Sri

> Krishna.The significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer

of

> Gita is actually to depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the

> end of Kaliyug.

> > Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used

> instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that

> > during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar, the Saints can only

recollect

> only a part of happenings throughout the World Cycle of 5000 yrs

> and there is no clear introdcution of the actual role of God

Shiv,

> God Shiv descend only during the end of Kaliyug to give the

Right

> Knowledge, the Real Gita.

> >

> > Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj@ wrote:

> > Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

> >

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>

March 5, 2006

dear friend bkgswu

this Jyotish Remedies group is mostly visited by astrologers and

querents to speak on matters related to astrology, chart analysis

and remedies as mentioned in the group's homepage.

to glorify ONLY lord shiva, there is a dedicated group (link given

below) where you can not only reach all people who have similar

thoughts of yours but also get responses from majority members there.

/

with best wishes

arjun

, B K <bkgswu wrote:

>

> Bhagwad Gita, discourse between Sri Krishna and Arjuna is compiled

by Sage Vyasa, Srimad Bhagwadham too, then Is Sage Vyasa, the

Creator of Sri Krishna's role?

>

> Do we follow Sri Krishna by reading Bhagwad Gita or are we

following Sage Vyasa?

>

> Is Sage Vyasa present during the period of Sri Krishna and

Srimad Bhagwatham?

>

> Or is it that Sri Krishna, who lived during Satyug, Heaven,the

character was used by Sage Vyasa to write His own ideas as Shastras

to help Human beings of Dwapar (Yug of Duality) Yug.

>

> It is said that God Shiv is the real revealer of Gita not Sri

Krishna.The significance of considering Sri Krishna as revealer of

Gita is actually to depict the teachings given by God Shiv at the

end of Kaliyug.

>

> Hope it is True that Why Sri Krishna's name was wrongly used

instead of God Sri Sri Shiv is that during Satyug, Treta and Dwapar,

the Saints can only recollect only a part of happenings throughout

the World Cycle of 5000 yrs and there is no clear introdcution of

the actual role of God Shiv, God Shiv descend only during the end

of Kaliyug to give the Right Knowledge, the Real Gita.

>

> Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote:

> Srimath Bhaagavadham composed by sri.Veda Vyaasa

>

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It looks like you have been carried away by the

thoughts of BrahmaKumari.

Where people have been taught a cycle of 5000 yrs.

Eventhough nobody is

clear about the number years for a complete cycle,

Indians are also carried

away by MaxMuller's theory of 500o years :-). If you

really believe in

Indian Sciences, then the complete cycle, the Kaliyuga

itself is for

4,32,000 years.

Why should I trust what you say, who is just like me

without having proper

knowledge of neither present nor past.

March 5, 2006

If again God is just a Bahya roopa as quoted by one of the members,

then why does astrology ask one to worship Shiv, say for a bad

Jupiter or Krishna for strengthening Moon and so on and so forth.Why

have different planets been given different Lords governing them??

Cant we just worship one with full devotion uni mind-set and see

things transforming themselves. It is all maya, basically it is all

in the mind. In order to attain supreme knowledge and move to a

higher spiritual plane, we have to look above all this and not waste

time nor keep arguing as to which of the illusionary characters is

more stronger or weaker.

Radhika.

>

March 6, 2006

Well said, radhikaji

, "Radhika" <radvish

wrote:

>

> If again God is just a Bahya roopa as quoted by one of the

members,

> then why does astrology ask one to worship Shiv, say for a bad

> Jupiter or Krishna for strengthening Moon and so on and so

forth.Why

> have different planets been given different Lords governing them??

> Cant we just worship one with full devotion uni mind-set and see

> things transforming themselves. It is all maya, basically it is

all

> in the mind. In order to attain supreme knowledge and move to a

> higher spiritual plane, we have to look above all this and not

waste

> time nor keep arguing as to which of the illusionary characters is

> more stronger or weaker.

>

> Radhika.

> >

>

March 6, 2006

When one knows it all to be Maya, the rest is easy. when is away

from all maya , secluded and solely into the process, yes one can.

But when you are required to be a part of the maya, enmeshed in it

day after day, being human and still struggling along the path it

is difficult(for some like me) to remain with equanimity at all

times.Though it is evident that everything is maya, the householder

in the native succumbs to the occasional grief, uncertainity,

depressions. That is when the solace of the remedies to different

planets, strenghtening, wearing of Gems are resorted to.The ascetics

life is far easy as compared to that of a householder for whom it is

a constant juggling of the roles, the struggle between the mundane

and other wordly, the balancing act. Sometimes you slip, remind

yourself and move on. Sometimes the fall is more painful and it

takes more time for gearing up. Life goes on...

In understanding the planets, movements one can be in a better state

to appreciate the experiences that one encounters as life

progresses. It cannot be said that astrology cannot help in

spirituality or anything other that the mundane. Spirituality is not

exclusion of the mundane/earthly or being saintly but merely being

more discerning, more so when in Grihasthashrama. Nor all those

spiritually inclined saints in the making.

If one can always retain the equanimity of the mind then it is not

difficult to rise above everything and attain greater spiritual

heights as Radhikaji suggested and he/she is really fortunate and

blessed.

Nalini

In , "Radhika" <radvish wrote:

>

> If again God is just a Bahya roopa as quoted by one of the

members,

> then why does astrology ask one to worship Shiv, say for a bad

> Jupiter or Krishna for strengthening Moon and so on and so

forth.Why

> have different planets been given different Lords governing them??

> Cant we just worship one with full devotion uni mind-set and see

> things transforming themselves. It is all maya, basically it is

all

> in the mind. In order to attain supreme knowledge and move to a

> higher spiritual plane, we have to look above all this and not

waste

> time nor keep arguing as to which of the illusionary characters is

> more stronger or weaker.

>

> Radhika.

> >

>

March 6, 2006

That is why we call our dharma...''Sanatana dharma''

one which is eternal. Here dharma means more than

religion or conventions; it means duty.

That is why it is so tolerant, you can pray to the

almighty in any form and yet you are doing your

dharma.

That is why we can coexist with all religious thoughts

because for us Dharma is not a narrow beep of light

but the entire spectrum of sunshine which fills our

hearts even in darkness.

om tat sat...

regards

rishi

--- auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote:

> When one knows it all to be Maya, the rest is easy.

> when is away

> from all maya , secluded and solely into the

> process, yes one can.

> But when you are required to be a part of the maya,

> enmeshed in it

> day after day, being human and still struggling

> along the path it

> is difficult(for some like me) to remain with

> equanimity at all

> times.Though it is evident that everything is maya,

> the householder

> in the native succumbs to the occasional grief,

> uncertainity,

> depressions. That is when the solace of the remedies

> to different

> planets, strenghtening, wearing of Gems are resorted

> to.The ascetics

> life is far easy as compared to that of a

> householder for whom it is

> a constant juggling of the roles, the struggle

> between the mundane

> and other wordly, the balancing act. Sometimes you

> slip, remind

> yourself and move on. Sometimes the fall is more

> painful and it

> takes more time for gearing up. Life goes on...

> In understanding the planets, movements one can be

> in a better state

> to appreciate the experiences that one encounters as

> life

> progresses. It cannot be said that astrology cannot

> help in

> spirituality or anything other that the mundane.

> Spirituality is not

> exclusion of the mundane/earthly or being saintly

> but merely being

> more discerning, more so when in Grihasthashrama.

> Nor all those

> spiritually inclined saints in the making.

> If one can always retain the equanimity of the mind

> then it is not

> difficult to rise above everything and attain

> greater spiritual

> heights as Radhikaji suggested and he/she is really

> fortunate and

> blessed.

> Nalini

>

> In , "Radhika"

> <radvish wrote:

> >

> > If again God is just a Bahya roopa as quoted by

> one of the

> members,

> > then why does astrology ask one to worship Shiv,

> say for a bad

> > Jupiter or Krishna for strengthening Moon and so

> on and so

> forth.Why

> > have different planets been given different Lords

> governing them??

> > Cant we just worship one with full devotion uni

> mind-set and see

> > things transforming themselves. It is all maya,

> basically it is

> all

> > in the mind. In order to attain supreme knowledge

> and move to a

> > higher spiritual plane, we have to look above all

> this and not

> waste

> > time nor keep arguing as to which of the

> illusionary characters is

> > more stronger or weaker.

> >

> > Radhika.

> > >

>

> > >

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> > >

> >

>

March 6, 2006

radhika ji,

A good question.if worship is just not need based there is no need to worship

different forms of god's and deities.For a person for whom poojs/worship is a

daily act,I agree there is no need except to worship Ishta devata,Ila velpu and

ku;a devata etc

Each planet has a deity because,the formation of theseplanets have come out

from different sources of energy that wrested with various dikpalaks and

deities.

krishnan

Radhika <radvish wrote: