for G.B.Prashant Kumar ji:moral boosters

March 4, 2006

Dear Shri Srinivas Ji,

Like any other service,jyotish to some times gets strained.Your understanding

of the various interactions of the the members of group and the do's and dont's

with this kind of moral boosters is nicest guesture.certainly I for one who

would be greatful for those kind sentiments.of these the following views also

offer a positive approach in the form between seekers and sought along with the

great importance /relevance of the site.

1.The jyotishis will be rendering their service by spending a part of their

precious time for the seekers

2.This forumto provide relief to suffering souls by analysing horoscope and

offer suitable astro remedies

3.persons donot want to analyse on jyotish principles and offer their

services only on generic sense of philosophical preachings

4.Also an astrologer needs great patience as the people(not all) have

tendency to resort to this divine science as a last resort

I wish such objective approach will certaily be a boon to the group,for those

interacting and wishing to do better contributions.

may be I have edited some of your views to put the in abstract and enable

quick glance and reading

regards

krishnan

srinivasa murthy adavi <smadavi wrote:

Respected Arjunji and others,

Well said.I welcome your resolution to comeback and continue your service

which seekers believe(and have faith) in you as person of humility and

compassion .For such person's alone the divine science of jyotish become

workable and effctive.This forum,as the name suggests, is understood to provide

relief to suffering souls by analysing horoscope and offer suitable astro

remedies depending upon the place of residence of the native,his religious

background and above all taking into account the financial and mental state of

the querent.It's true that sometimes a balming talk is required ,but it alone

cannot suffice the native needs.

Also an astrologer needs great patience in dealing with the native as the

people(not all) have tendency to resort to this divine science as a last resort

for getting relief from their suffering.Obviously the native's mental state will

be depressive after dissipation of his energy on his self efforts through other

means.Thier patience to fight with circumstances will be at lowest and they'll

be eager to comeout of the crisis when they approach the astrolger.

Astrologer depending upon the situation may use balming words as a first

measure and analyse the horoscope and offer suitable propititions.It's being

observed certain people are thinking that if they offer balmy words

laced(sometimes) with wit and humour it's enough.Or it so that after years of

service they became despondent due to some inexplicable reasons and therefore

stopping their service only at first stage(balmy words...) itself ?God ,and

beyond God their conscience alone knows the truth.If this is said to them they

react angrily and feel hurt.If such persons themselves donot have patience

towards the gentle admonitions given with good intentions to correct their

behaviour and instead construe as insulted and complain to moderator.....it's

surprising and biweldering.How can a seeker expected to have patience to putup

with such a behaviour when he comes to this forum (with already depleted mental

strength) for relief based on jyotish and not just alone on balmy talk.If

persons donot want to analyse on jyotish principles and are ready to offer their

services only on generic sense of philosophical preachings that are less

understood by majority,then my advise to moderator/s is to put some reason into

such persons and let this forum be continued as and for jyotishremedies instead

of as a generic views exchange forum.Ask them to switchover to one to one (or

among select few)exchange when they truly find beneficial (of such echange)that

the discussion has to be carried further after a few exchanges in the forum

initially.

Also a kind request to the fellow seekers is that they should understand

the financial needs of the jyotishis and donot comeback with serial queries

(sometimes with changed id's) and spoil the precious time of jyotishis.The

jyotishis will be rendering their service by spending a part of their precious

time for the seekers and the rest of the time for earning their (and

families)rightful livelyhood.

Sri Arjunji,Sri Asutoshji,Sri VattemKrishnanji and few other like

Chopraji,Kuldhirbhatiji etc are adhering to the fouding objectives of this

forum and rendering wonderful service to the seekers.

I compliment them for their wonderful service and extend wishes for their

wellbeing.

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear prashant garu

from now onwards i have decided not to post my personal views and

opinions on any matter other than astrology in this group. also if

we both keep hitting the reply button and start expressing our

individual views on varied subjects other than astrology, we may be

drubbed as reducing this august group into our private chatroom.

even though till date we both exchanged only two mails, if we have

to communciate our views between only we two individuals, we can

always use our messenger for chatting so that the querents who

approach this group with pain and suffering do not find a long

thread of mails between two individuals and i loathe myself to be

one.

every one who knows me knows that i preach what i practice and that

i always speak the truth. since am commited to healing and

astrology, from now onwards i will again start readng the charts and

suggestion of remedies freely in this group for any question from a

suffering querent that is left unanswered.

also i missed one of your previous mails where you requested me to

study your relative's chart and help him through divine healing.

either you or him may please contact on my private ID or chat for

this free service.

also in the gap of two months where i stopped reading charts freely

in this group, i have seen astrologers like you doing great

contributions and my personal appreciation to you. my special

respect and appreciation to krishnan ji and ashutoshji for their

continued contribution in this group on a consistent basis is always

there.

with best wishes and regards

arjun

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Hi Arjun

> I am sorry for the mistake but even before reading this mail in

a later mail have written as Arjun `open to debate' sure I agree

with all u said as i also share the similar thoughts on

invasion/occupation, except Isreal of course thouugh not our

problem, as after all the 3 major religions who share the old

testament r from there and it is better all of them live and share

the region as a CORPORATE PLACE, SHARE THE SPOILS RELIGIOUS AREAS,

TOURISM etc.

> and probably share some land with any neighbouring country for

Palestine and all visit their holy places as siekhs go to Pak for

Nankasaheb, or Indians to china in CHina, than try to eliminate

the other as a solution..or as all muslims go to Mecca.

>

> but the rhetoric comming from there is

> Hinduism, Buddism, Jainism is GOD VERSION 0

> JUDAISM VER 1

> CHRISTANITY VER 2

> ISLAM VER 3 the latest and youngest and the poweful one and if

you u have heard Mushraff speak on 9/19 after 9/11 HE clearly tells

the Paki nation that he is going to repeat the same formula that

was used to get that land (Jerusalem durig Muhmad times] one

against other -a treaty when ur rival is attacked keep silent [as

u've signed the no war treaty] and after sometime when the jews

were already badly beatn by their common enemy they Invaded and

occupied that land [which Isreal later by decipt occupied in 67] so

he says tractfully he will use USA and nudge India and USA at the

right time.

>

> but religion sure is dead or dying as it is money the only god

that will remain and TV has surely erased all moral bases for all

civilisations, which cinema did a few levels, TV has done million

times more damage. so it is VINASHA KALA VIPAREETHA BUDHI [in times

of destruction our intellect fails, like fire flies get sucked into

the fire] coupled with Buddhi Marma anusare. [inteelect is driven

by fate]

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear

prashant garu

>

> firstly my name is not rajan and it is arjun. even pandit arjun

is

> not my real name and it is only a penname.

>

> anyway i liked your mail since what all you mentioned are facts

> which none can deny. but i personally feel we can talk about

> individuals and not on religion as it is a highly sensitive and

> explosive issue.

>

> however, your mail reminsices me of some nations (not

religions).

> in my childhood we were told that all the Britishers were a

bunch of

> thieves who kept on looting the entire world and took back the

> entire world's wealth into their country. South Africa,

Australia

> and India are only few examples. despite decades long fights,

the

> British Queen still emblazones the Kohinoor diamond looted from

our

> country. definitely UK will not become poor by giving back one

> stone that they looted five decades ago. In my definition if

any

> nation occupies another nation by force they are looters be it

USA

> occupying Iraq and Afghanistan or Israel occupying Palestine or

> China annexing Tibet.

>

> notwithstanding the repeated efforts by invaders who stood in

line

> to loot our country one after the other, the fact is that we

only

> gained from strength to strength mainly because of our inherent

> vedic knowledge. scientists may attribute other reasons for

india's

> resilience and they are welcome.

>

> Anyway after Goldman Sacchs predicted few years ago that soon

China

> and India would be the two supermost nations in the world

beating

> USA and UK, the entire west has started recognising the Indian

> wealth and each nation is vying a pie to share the Indian

success

> story. this is the new world order in the changing world

scenario.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi arjan,

> >

> > Sure i do accept good social work even by mata amrutananda,

> rama krishna mission some christian organisations the regular

ones,

> this Mission of charity as they have also claime is about dying

> people not living.

> >

> > Abot Satya sai Baba's super speciality hospitals they treat

all

> people irrespective of caste, creed, rich/poor etc with utmost

care

> they see all.

> > but in treatment their preference is from 16-65 yrs old who

they

> call BREAD WINNERS. this mission s of charity don't they do

jsut

> for the recoerd dying as they say.

> >

> > the Bishop of delhi-forgot his name also like babd does it

for

> same kids onwards

> >

> > Baba has comparitively limited resources to missions of

> charity do they have any such hospital/care facilities for any

> group. no the BBC documentry says they have unclean

dormetries,

> toilets stinking max they give is anacin they say u need to

> experience pain, and in the fag end they r asked if u want to

go to

> heaven when they say uest SHE HAS SAID THEY R GIVEN A TICKET TO

St

> PETERS many muslims of Bengal are without their knowledge given

> christian baptism and they do die without a honest consnet. so

> where i smorlaity in this effort, health care to baptism

> >

> > abdul satter eddhi is a great man he has grown fro the

street

> giving care collected good wil, finds from people by his work

and

> also the 1st to be at the Oct quake victims relief. did u c MoC

at

> Tsunami or any other quak,e flood afected areas no.

> >

> > Otheir christian organisations r surely there. as these

don't

> have facilites, use overflowing donations for conversion in

> Africa, Asia.

> >

> > I have friends in all faiths and as u c I habe identified

good

> people form all faiths,

> > no bias we overplayed MT.

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: dear

> prashant ji

> >

> > what all you said is true as they are all based on facts.

> >

> > even while appreciating the social service done by mother

> teresa, i

> > do remember several years ago when she was possessed by a

devil

> and

> > was exorcised as per christian practices. i have

documentary

> > evidence for this from christian institutions.

> >

> > to me mother teresa is a good social servant who worked on

the

> karma

> > marga. if someone equates her with god, i dont criticise as

> even in

> > india we have lots of godmen like satyasaibaba who are

treated

> like

> > living gods.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mt=EMpTY (MOTHER TERESSA)

> > > I am not sure of what v find in EMpTY.

> > > ON MORALITY

> > > SAY ABORTIONS CONDOMES, especially minor girls who

> became

> > mothers in strife, war torn Africa, Latin America, slums

anywhere

> > >

> > > SPREAD the word with Pope John Paul 2 that condoms

were

> > unsafe, leaks etc that is possible in 1 in a million

> scientifically.

> > Why do these people who believe in abstinence talk on these

and

> > that too rumors? The pain for millions of minor girls

raped,

> > becoming mothers will be reduced and what burden on society

it

> will

> > be girls who need care giving birth to kids.

> > > Condoms leak fine then abortions for such people she

> said NO

> > > It is ok to be immoral and give birth to illegal

> children

> > and suffer?

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

> > > this is a well documented section of both the +ve

and –

> ve.

> > > Please do see If I could appreciate a Pakistani for

> good

> > work and even a Bishop in delhi and S.Africa I am not dubbed

as

> > communal as many do now a days as a fashion.

> > > THESE i has aid r good as thecared for the living,

MT

> did

> > for the ones surely who wud die asap. and won laurals from

us

> who

> > believe inempty rhetoric, like garibi, Hatoo, Aam admi etc.

> > > *-*-*

> > >

> > > PLEASE READ her life as presented honestly in BBC

> Channel

> > 4, on her so called achievements, all are dubious. And we

made

> a

> > hue and cry when it was telecast in their country, where

> reason,

> > introspection, criticism is natural; democratic we made her

a

> saint

> > for what?

> > > Reduced Gandhi and Harischandra as epithets, if you

> find

> > anyone following or taling about rules we say don't talk or

be

> like

> > Gandhi, or Harishcandra or Gandhi class etc. but elevate

her to

> > sainthood.

> > >

> > > In 79 the camp david peace accord brought about

peace

> > between Egypt, Isreal , Jimmy carter, Anwar Sadat deserved

the

> honor.

> > >

> > > S Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutto deserved earlier

than

> her

> > at least for working in oppressive, barbarian, apartheid

regime

> in

> > S. Africa.

> > >

> > > There is a Bishop in delhi who has raised street

> children,

> > fed them and educated them he deserves more praise not her.

> > >

> > > The best line r from her Nobel speech itself she did

> give

> > 40,000 people a ticket to St Peters (heaven) people who

would

> have

> > died in a day or tow live cared for intheir last days.

29,000

> died

> > in a day or two rest later max a week

> > >

> > > She talks in the speech that in the Bengal famine

there

> was

> > a Hindu family with 11 children and had a glass of milk only

to

> feed

> > them and a neighbour Muslim family had 13 so she gave the

glass

> of

> > milk to the Muslim family as they had more children hungry,

> this u

> > humanism, were HIDNUS DON'T SAY CONVERT WE WILL SHOW U THE

DOOR

> TO

> > HEAVEN, OR GIVE U AID etc.

> > >

> > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > Naliniji,

> > > I had posted a few thoughts of Mother Teresa on this

forum

> on

> > the new year...too difficult to follow as is life but

reading

> them

> > is a pleasure too.

> > > regards

> > >

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > Prashant

>

> Prashant

>

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March 4, 2006

Respected Jyotisihis,

I take those words of appreciation as a divine blessing.My intention of mail

is not to hurt anyone ,but to bring back the learned persons who sometimes fall

prey to temporary lapse of memory forgetting their intended/and or expected

service objectives.This I'm saying in the spirit that sometimes I may behave in

the same manner and other benevolent people will(and has!) bring me back out of

those lapses.

Coming to representation(edited pieces) please read the point

(3) as persons should primarily analyse on jyotish principles and offer

their services along with occasional generic sense of philosophical preachings

,as and when needed.

As for every maxim there will be judicious exceptions,the same holds true for

the above and all other expressions.

Why I'm saying this is that every soul has knowledge of philosophy to a

great extent inside(or say inherently)either because of the suffering it

undergoes or in the struggle to keep secure its priveleged birth; but what the

soul lacks is the language skills of expression and presentation of these

philosophical musings.This I found after interacting with many people of various

sections/classes of society as a civil construction engineer since last few

years.

with out ill will towards anyone

sincerely

Srinivas

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: