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Perhaps we are all blind men and have different ways of figuring the

reality or rather the elephant of reality! Actually we are not all

completely blind but wear differnt coloured glasses, some are

otherwise trained to be priests, engineers, biochemists, biologists,

doctors, teachers, IT, police officers, detectives, writers,

clueless, partly clued in, tantrik ... you name it!

 

We each come to astrology with a slightly different mindset, a

different blinder on our eyes -- what we glimpse at is going to be

different.

 

That is the reality and there is very little chance of all

jyotishis, given the rigorous modern life and its demands trying to

approach jyotish with 'nothing but' attitude. And some of us who

have convinced themselves that that is where they are at, my

heartfelt sympathies! Seriously!!

 

 

You have essentially two choices, Swatisonee -- jump into the pool

and learn astrology yourself, OR, get cynical and remove

jyotish/astrology/divination from your life!

 

The third option -- yet another opinion, another reading, might work

too, but are you a gambler?

 

RR

 

 

, "swatisonee"

<swatisonee wrote:

>

> We had refferd to 3 persons and they have given 3 answers all of

> which seem different from each other. This was 2 years ago.

> Incidentally, marriage has still not taken place. Whom do we

believe

> please ?

>

> For your ready reference, the birth data is POB:Bombay, TOB:

> 3.45 PM , DOB: 19/8/69., Female

>

> Thanks in advance.

> Swati

>

> A. First Interpretion.

> Chart has a severe affliction..Lagna is Dhanu and 7th is

> occupied by Shukra who is 6th and 11th lord which is a malefic for

> this chart.2nd and 3rd lord Shani who is also another malefic for

> this chart is debilitated in 5th and aspects Shukra,the Vivaha

> Karaka.Rahu who is very strong in 3rd house of Kumbha Rashi also

> aspects Shukra.7th lord Budha is in 7th house but is in a lower

> longitude than Ketu,so Ketu is eclipsing Budha and this is also a

> major affliction.8th house is Mangalya Sthana in a female's chart

> and its lord Chandra is in 11th aspected by debilitated malefic

> Shani.7th house lord Budha's Navamshadhipaty Kuja is in 12th in

> Rashi chart along with Mandi.UL which is in Kumbha rashi is

occupied

> by Rahu, a malefic.Also when seen from Bhava point of view,Rahu

goes

> to 4th house which is Sukha Sthana and Ketu goes to 10th house and

> afflicts Guru.The chart has severe Kuja Dosha. See Kuja with Mandi

> is in 12th from Lagna,2nd from Chandra and this is one of the major

> afflictions to get married.In the Navamsha Kuja with Ketu in 6th is

> aspected by Rahu indicating Severe Sarpa Dosha.Also Shani who is in

> his enemic sign of Simha aspects Mandi in Tula and this indicates

> Preta Shaapa.Shukra is 6th and 11th lord in 7th house which is

> aspected by debilitated malefic Shani and so because of severe

> afflictions in the chart ,her marriage did not take place in any of

> the said periods.

> At present Shani - Chandra is going on till 30-10-2004 and checking

> on transit Guru is in Simha transitting over her 7th lord Budha,

9th

> lord Surya and Ketu,aspecting Rahu and Dasha lord Shani also.So if

> the above remedies are done at the earliest,marrigae is possible

> before August 28th of 2004.

> As 7th from Shukra is Dhanu which is a Dwiswbhava Rashi , her

> husband comes from east of her birth place and the time to reach

her

> husband's place of birth will be nearer to that of hers.

>

> B)Second interpretation .

>

> She has Saggitarius ascendant having Rahu in 3rd, Saturn in 5th,

> Venus in 7th, Sun-Mer-Ketu in 9th, Jupiter in 10th, Moon in 11th &

> Mars in 12th. The lagna lord is placed in 10th and dispositor of it

> Mercury is in 9th with Sun and Ketu getting aspect from Rahu so

> becomes weak. The lagna is in Ketu constellation and Ketu is in 9th

> aspecting lagna. So the lagna lord, its dispositor and

constellation

> dispositor are weak. Lagna lord is in enemical sign Virgo. Now come

> to her marriage point of view. She is going through Saturn

mahadasha

> since April 1992 and currently under Saturn/Moon upto Nov 2004.

> Saturn is debilited and placed in 5th aspecting 7th house, Rahu

also

> aspecting 7th house and its lord Mercury also, Mars aspecting 7th

> house. So there is triple affliction to 7th house making her

> unmarried till date. The balance of Saturn mahadasha is still

almost

> 7 years and considerably delaying and even denying the marriage.

> Even if the marriage happens which is unlikely then there goes to

be

> problem in the marriage life. suggest appease Saturn.

>

> C) Third

>

> Houses 2 (Sani), 4 (Guru), 9 (Surya) and 12 (Kuja) are

> aspected/occupied by own lords, which is good. Lord of 9 is

> swakshetra, and so is lord of 12th. The former gives good luck

> and fortune, while the latter confers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

>

> On the negative side, Sani is fallen in 5th house, and Sani dasa

> is running until 2008. Sani gets Neecha Banga because it is

> opposite Chandra, but this is not sufficient to completely

> overcome all ills. It just dilutes the venom.

>

> Regarding marriage--Sukra is karaka, and is in 7th, house of

> marriage. This is not good. Also, Sukra's dispositor, Budha, is

> very close to Ketu. The nodes tend to eclipse any planet and

> causes them to lose potency. The 7th house is also aspected by

> Sani, which causes delay.

>

> Marriage was possible in 1999 because of Sani-Sukra Dasa.

> Marriage takes place in dasa of (a) planet in 7, (b) lord of 7

> and © planet aspecting 7. There is possibility in end 2004-end

> 2005 because of Sani Dasa - Kuja Bukti, since both are aspecting

> the 7th.

> Using Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, I found that Star, Tithi, Day,

> Name, and Lagna of birth are all afflicted by malefics, which is

> enormously grave. The only benefics in sight are Budh (Tithi)

> and Guru (Lagna).

>

> Regarding important stars, Janma Nakshtra (1) [Ketu], Karma

> Nakshtra (10) [Ketu, Surya], Vinash Nakshtra (23) [Kuja], and

> Manas Nakstra (25) [sani] are afflicted, causing a lot of

> difficulties. These are somewhat mitigated by the benefics--Uday

> Nakshtra (18) [sukra], Vinash Nakshtra (23) [budh], and Abhishek

> Nakshatra (27) [sukra].

>

> Native will never get married

>

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, "swatisonee" <swatisonee

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> I would love to learn and would have no issues with another reading -

 

> what is life , if not an education ?

>

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