Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad commentry

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Friends,

I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of today.

Please remember that everything which is written is not always right and

everything that present day people research is not wrong.

 

When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father having Guru in 5th

bhava might have a son but it is possible that he would never get along well or

stay away from son/vice versa.

I would sight an example,

Male

DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

He has a son and two daughters.

He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter.

Son has lived away from him since last six years .

 

Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

 

I wish people tread all that I have to post before branding terms in

astrology.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear K.Gopu,

 

Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors

which can give child-birth related problems. We are looking for astrological

explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known to all.

 

Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole purpose

of the discussions. This is an astrological group, remember?!!

 

 

Ashutosh

 

 

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K Gopu

Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

 

 

dear ashutosh ji,

I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should

cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead

to delayed or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in

vitro fertilisation) clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house

be badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case

of Sri abhiram mishra, if the fifth house is strong in

his wife's chart then definitely she can give birth to

a child. Unexplainable miscarriages are rejection of

the paternal cells by the mother, this is based on

immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason they

say for which some degree of successful treatment is

available.

Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

proposition.

 

my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

with a child.

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Dada,

 

I have been observing and studying 'fundamentalistic' thinking in the

astrology scene and the myths surrounding jyotish propagated by none

other than jyotishis for some time.

 

Attacks, particularly from those working from a weak base, one way or

another, as illustrated by their guerilla-tactics should not get in

the way of dissemination of knowledge. Researchers were given poison

just a few hundred years ago. All they risk now is one misspelt

expletive in a misshapen sentence. Human beings have come a long way!

 

Let us rejoice and spread so much light that the guerillas are

exposed before they run back to hide in the tall grass! And all the

time, as Nirmal and I were talking here, let us keep our eyes on

the "ball"!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

wrote:

>

> Friends,

> I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of today.

> Please remember that everything which is written is not always

right and everything that present day people research is not wrong.

>

> When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father having

Guru in 5th bhava might have a son but it is possible that he would

never get along well or stay away from son/vice versa.

> I would sight an example,

> Male

> DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

> He has a son and two daughters.

> He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter.

> Son has lived away from him since last six years .

>

> Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

>

> I wish people tread all that I have to post before branding terms

in astrology.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> Dear K.Gopu,

>

> Guru in fifth house is only one of the several

factors which can give child-birth related problems. We are looking

for astrological explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known

to all.

>

> Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the

whole purpose of the discussions. This is an astrological group,

remember?!!

>

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-

group consultations may be chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> K Gopu

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

>

>

> dear ashutosh ji,

> I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should

> cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead

> to delayed or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in

> vitro fertilisation) clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

> People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house

> be badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case

> of Sri abhiram mishra, if the fifth house is strong in

> his wife's chart then definitely she can give birth to

> a child. Unexplainable miscarriages are rejection of

> the paternal cells by the mother, this is based on

> immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason they

> say for which some degree of successful treatment is

> available.

> Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

> proposition.

>

> my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

> with a child.

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

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Dear Tatvam and all,

 

I am giving some birth details of men where

jupiter in fifth house has caused child-birth related problems.

 

1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

 

Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts. Notice

jupiter in its own sign.

 

2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

 

Married since last ten years, first son born after two miscarriages,

second son born after two miscarriages again. Jupiter in own sign in fifth.

 

3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

 

First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended when the

embryo mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third conception, done under

astrological guidance, was successfull last year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

 

This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case. Even the

horoscopes have some similarities. I have many other such cases in my database.

Whatever statement I give is based upon my experiences and observations in my

daily practice as an astrologer.

 

 

Of course, there are other factors responsible along with the jupiter in

fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's placement,

etc. But, all the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been

proven wrong.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

[The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group

consultations may be chargeable]

 

 

 

-

Tatvamasi

Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad commentry

 

 

Friends,

I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of today.

Please remember that everything which is written is not always right and

everything that present day people research is not wrong.

 

When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father having Guru in 5th

bhava might have a son but it is possible that he would never get along well or

stay away from son/vice versa.

I would sight an example,

Male

DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

He has a son and two daughters.

He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter.

Son has lived away from him since last six years .

 

Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

 

I wish people tread all that I have to post before branding terms in

astrology.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear K.Gopu,

 

Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors

which can give child-birth related problems. We are looking for astrological

explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known to all.

 

Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole purpose

of the discussions. This is an astrological group, remember?!!

 

 

Ashutosh

 

 

[The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group

consultations may be chargeable]

 

 

 

 

-

K Gopu

Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

 

 

dear ashutosh ji,

I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should

cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead

to delayed or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in

vitro fertilisation) clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house

be badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case

of Sri abhiram mishra, if the fifth house is strong in

his wife's chart then definitely she can give birth to

a child. Unexplainable miscarriages are rejection of

the paternal cells by the mother, this is based on

immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason they

say for which some degree of successful treatment is

available.

Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

proposition.

 

my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

with a child.

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

 

b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "" on the web.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save

big.

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE

OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

 

b..

 

c..