Jupiter does not destroy the house/sign it is in, in a natal chart 3/4 agreed pl ask ur fan

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Hi Rr

 

TRUE I WANTED NALINI TO write on the topic, and sure have same thoughts to

her mail privately ) did not want towaste threads here) that it is not my

private property

and the main idea was the thread must have some topic related material not

mutual exchanges of thoughts on any topic they like, i opena topic and see most

of it is other than astrology oflate.

 

all by the 2-3 line writers club.

 

Prashant

 

crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Since when did messages

and threads posted in a public forum become

private property with 'ownership' etc.

 

How absurd!

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant garu,

> Extremely sorry to have added masala to your thread, guess, I should

> have replied to Nirmalji, off the thread instead of just replying to

> the post.

> She sort of sounded forlorn, thought I could pep her up a bit, that

> is the best I could do.

> Regards

> Nalini

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear readers Please use the space to debate the main topics in a

> thread and some masala all masala and no stuff and retaining my

> thread is too much, i except some food for thought not food

> >

> > May I remind u all the rahu, ketu debate took some1 to condem

> Guru as a malefic to which I said it is wrong to implicate guru

> from current standards and esp judging rama's chart of a different

> Yuga was absard. from rama's Yuga Guru is sure benefic for Kali

> Yuga lesser.

> >

> > ALL CLASSICS TALK OF GURus benine influnece, association but

> some NEO-RESEARCHERS FEEL OTHERWISE and still have no material to

> prove it that it is a malefic and ridiculed people who supported it

> is benefic, as thogh they have deviated from the main rules laid so

> far.

> >

> > when the so called researchers can't find proper case studies

> or material to support their claims, still ridicule so plesae

> take part init and no masala.

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> >

> >

> > auromirra19 <nalini2818@> wrote: Nirmalji,

> > Turmeric is a good antisceptic and hing is good for digestion.

> > Nirmal ji, my only question was and always is, what is the

> meaning

> > of that magic word *happiness*, illusion- elusive-delusion, I

> could

> > go on. When in Chennai, an astrologer asked me, Madam, have you

> ever

> > been happy? I coudnt answer. I then asked myself, yes what is

> it?

> > have I ever been happy, I need a yardstick to measure it , what

> is

> > that yardstick. I am still waiting for the answer.This was 16

> years

> > back, I am still searching. Your cannot find the perfect recipe

> for

> > happiness, keep experimenting, less this more that, keep doing

> it.

> > would arrive at a recipe, but what if your taste changes by then.

> > coming to terms with *that* is happiness, it is internal. Cant

> find

> > it in rainbows, swamps, bagh bageeche.Internalise it , it can

> never

> > flit about like that elusive butterfly. Oh! Sorry, I guess you

> asked

> > the wrong person

> > Regards

> > Nalini

> > , Nirmal Anand

> > <nirdayita@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Naliniji,

> > >

> > > I was always told my chart was exceptional and yet here I am

> > chasing the butterfly of happiness. How many more swamps will it

> > lead me through ? :-) The masala analogy is excellent; what do I

> do

> > when there's an abudance of haldi and hing in my preparation

> > though ????? Here's my info:

> > >

> > > 6.40 am on March 1st, 1977 in Mumbai :-)

> > >

> > > N

> > >

> > > auromirra19 <nalini2818@> wrote:

> > > Now, now , now Nirmalji. If everyone who has the combination

> is

> > > ruined, where is the fun, the real masala( pardon me for a

> > transient

> > > irreverance, coudnt resist it) lies in the

> > combinations/proportions

> > > and portions of the other ingredients. There lies the secret

> of

> > the

> > > recipe- and no dish tastes alike mind you. Btw could never

> > > understand how pongal used to taste the same any time any day

> in a

> > > particular restaurant.

> > > best Wishes

> > > Nalini

> > > , Nirmal Anand

> > > <nirdayita@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gosh, would that mean if I have Guru in my Sukhasthana (4th

> > house)

> > > and Shani in my Ripusthana (6th house) - I'm doomed????

> > > >

> > > > auromirra19 <nalini2818@> wrote: Respected Pandit Arjun ji,

> > > > Very succinct. It is all in the mind. How we perceive is all

> > that

> > > > matters. maleficness and benignity are all as a native

> perceives

> > > > them to be and relative. Sreenadh ji is right when says

> planets,

> > > no

> > > > let me be clear, grahas cannot be branded benefic or

> malefic .

> > > > Regards

> > > > Nalini

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear sreenadh ji

> > > > >

> > > > > you wrote:

> > > > > "A planet is neither benefic or malefic but only a

> > significator

> > > or

> > > > > several things. And it is wrong to classify a planet as

> > benefic

> > > or

> > > > > malefic."

> > > > >

> > > > > scientifically, based on astronomy, the above statement is

> a

> > > FACT

> > > > > which none can deny.

> > > > >

> > > > > however, astrology and mythology (not literally mythical!)

> > based

> > > > on

> > > > > puranas and samhitas teach planets and stars as persons

> and

> > not

> > > > > celestial objects. in mythology chandra is a male and in

> > > > astrology

> > > > > chandra is a female.

> > > > >

> > > > > science looks at planets as lifeless objects or a mass or

> ball

> > > of

> > > > > chemicals, gases and other susbtances. mythology looks at

> > > planets

> > > > > as gods and demons signifying various dispositions

> direclty

> > > > > affecting all humans.

> > > > >

> > > > > as you rightly observed, instead of branding a planet as

> > benefic

> > > > or

> > > > > malefic, we shall focus more on their dispositions, for

> what

> > is

> > > > good

> > > > > for one is perceived by another as bad. one person sees a

> > wife

> > > as

> > > > > bringing good luck, wealth and material comforts, a

> realised

> > > > person

> > > > > sees a wife as maya and prefer brahmacharyam and

> renouncement

> > > and

> > > > > yet another realised person see direct goddess in her. in

> all

> > > the

> > > > > three cases, jupiter has his own role but perceptions of

> the

> > > > native

> > > > > in receiving the dispositions are different.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > arjun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Sreenadh"

> <sreelid@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > I know that Ju in Cp being the 6th lord in

> Debilitation

> > can

> > > be

> > > > a

> > > > > > real malefic as far as married life is concerned. It

> becomes

> > a

> > > > > very

> > > > > > strong Stana-Bhava-Graha (Sign-House-Planet) prediction

> and

> > > the

> > > > > > classics supports it with slokas. Jataka Chandrika (also

> > known

> > > > as

> > > > > > Leghu parasari) says that Ju, when placed in a marka

> stana

> > > (2nd

> > > > or

> > > > > > 7th house) can cause death if it is a Kendradhipati.

> > > > > > Sa, Ma or Su can give very good results when exalted

> and

> > well

> > > > > placed

> > > > > > and thus becomes a benefic. After all Benefic means -

> A

> > > > planet

> > > > > > that gives good results and Malefic means - A planet

> that

> > > gives

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > results.

> > > > > > Should I start a new controversy by stating that "A

> planet

> > is

> > > > > > neither benefic or malefic but only a significator or

> > several

> > > > > things.

> > > > > > And it is wrong to classify a planet as benefic or

> malefic.

> > > What

> > > > > is

> > > > > > important is understanding the predictions that should

> be

> > > given

> > > > to

> > > > > > each combination" ???!! Shall I add some spice to it by

> > > stating

> > > > > that

> > > > > > classifications such as "Benefic x MaleficSustana x

> > > Dustana"

> > > > > are

> > > > > > just descriptive techniques developed to teach the

> subject,

> > > > which

> > > > > > later caused all the troubles and confusions"?!!

> > > > > > Yap. I know I have already made the statement!!

> > > > > > Now let us modify it, so that the idea becomes clear.

> > > > > > Combinations (Yoga) that are used for prediction could

> be

> > of

> > > 7

> > > > > > types. The whole astrology uses a 7-fold prediction

> system.

> > > > > > 1) Sign (Stana Phala :- sign based prediction)

> > > > > > For eg :Divisions of signs as Fire, Air etc, Chara,

> > > Stira,

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > 2) House (Bhava phala :- house based prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If 4th lord is placed in 6th we give some

> > > > > predictions.

> > > > > > 3) Planet (Graha phala :- planet based prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If Su and Me is together we give some

> > prediction.

> > > > > > 4) Sign-House (Stana - Bhava :- Sign-House based

> > prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If Ge is 3rd house from Asc we give some

> > > prediction.

> > > > > > 5) Sign-Planet (Stana-Graha :- Sign-Planet based

> > prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If Mo is in Tarus we give some prediction.

> > > > > > 6) House-Planet (Bhava-Graha :- House-Planet based

> > > prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If Me is in 2nd house we give some

> prediction.

> > > > > > 7) Sign-House-Planet (Stana-Bhava-Graha :- Sign-House-

> > Planet

> > > > > > prediction)

> > > > > > For eg: If (take our above eg.) Ju the 6th lord for

> Cn

> > > Asc

> > > > is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > Cp then we give some prediction.

> > > > > > If we are well aware of this system used by the

> Rishis,

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > the purpose and use of concepts like "Benefic x

> > > > MalificSustana

> > > > > x

> > > > > > Dustana"? We just use them in general discussions to

> avoid

> > > > > details.

> > > > > > I hope the point is clear. Should be now again argue

> that

> > Ju

> > > is

> > > > > > benefic or Malefic, and Ma is benefic or malefic?? And

> still

> > > > reach

> > > > > no

> > > > > > compromise and no conclusion? Let us try to learn and

> > > > predict,

> > > > > > rather than getting entrapped in such controversies.

> > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do not see my role or responsibility here, dear

> member,

> > to

> > > > > > provide

> > > > > > > examples to support or refute interesting theories

> people

> > > come

> > > > > up

> > > > > > > with :-) It lies squarely on the broad shoulders of

> the

> > > brave

> > > > > > > proponent!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Speaking of clarity in messages to which you and a

> couple

> > > > others

> > > > > > keep

> > > > > > > alluding to -- there is that saying about the pot

> calling

> > > the

> > > > > > kettle

> > > > > > > black or maybe it is the kettle that calls the pot so -

> -

> > > > etc. ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Prashant

> Kumar G

> > B

> > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi RR,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well it is good to read 2 good mails that can be

> read

> > > with

> > > > > ease

> > > > > > > by anyone.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here i felt u wud come up examples galore on Guru

> as a

> > > > > Malefic

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > sign spoiler if this was the accepted or pouplar

> norm, I

> > > > still

> > > > > > leave

> > > > > > > the field open for u and any1 who belives so to put

> such

> > > > charts

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > the forum easy to handle that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If it is about it not being a malefic I am sure

> many

> > > will

> > > > > chip

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > I will do my part ASAP..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bottom line if Guru is a benific their lives may

> not

> > be

> > > as

> > > > > > > interesting to read as Bill Gates, Marlyn Manro,

> Dhribhai

> > > > > Ambani,

> > > > > > > Michel Jackson, Laloo Prsad Yadav etc.

> > > > > > > > u can see a Lal Bahudur Shastry, Manmohan Singh

> type

> > > > people

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PRASHANT

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: Prashant,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So that clarity does not get watered down. I was

> taken

> > by

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > strong statement of conviction that opposed

> the "notions"

> > > > that

> > > > > > > astrologers have, namely that jupiter destroys the

> house

> > it

> > > is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > can be a malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The strong statement from you made me assume,

> > naturally,

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > your conviction was born out of having seen strong

> > evidence

> > > > in

> > > > > > > charts and

> > > > > > > > which you may wish to share so that we can see

> your

> > > > > statement

> > > > > > > illustrated. As a general statement, please note that

> this

> > > was

> > > > a

> > > > > > > simple request which need not get anyone on the

> > defensive,

> > > > etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hope that was clear and not too painful to figure

> > out :-

> > > )

> > > > > And

> > > > > > > clarity was the sole reason for my focusing only on

> one

> > > > segment

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > your longer post.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Prashant

> > Kumar

> > > G

> > > > B

> > > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > HiRR,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > pretty fast though.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > well i assume u mean that it is a malefic and

> not

> > > may

> > > > > > > examples of

> > > > > > > > it beingbenific right?

> > > > > > > > > I said it is benefic in past Yogas and in

> present

> > if

> > > u

> > > > r

> > > > > > > prepared

> > > > > > > > to wait till it delivers, and also if one remain

> > > honest,

> > > > > > > selfless,

> > > > > > > > as human as possible

> > > > > > > > > not possibe in the commercial, materialsitic

> world

> > > we

> > > > r

> > > > > > in,

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > the varoiuos exaples I said if we don't bribe...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if u find unseccessful people by which i mean

> one

> > > how

> > > > > has

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > made a fortune, u can pick his Guru for it.

> > > > > > > > > for people who succed by hook or crook GURU is

> a

> > > pure

> > > > > > > malefic,

> > > > > > > > not sure if I have to repeat it again or with

> charts

> > > sure

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > some moderator will say no personal charts,

> openions

> > if

> > > u

> > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > can put them accross. SURE.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > anyway am happy u clipped some part of the

> mail

> > and

> > > > > wrote

> > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > else would be in circles on what u meant.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > any way for record sake my paternal

> grandfather

> > was

> > > an

> > > > > > > atheist,

> > > > > > > > my father is a rationalist, and I can say I AM

> MIiX

> > of

> > > > > > > > rationalst+traditionalist but know our forefathers

> r

> > far

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > people highly evolved we have no way of judging

> them

> > > even

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > ones

> > > > > > > > who failed in the normal standards.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so I am only trying to understand our

> traditions,

> > > > values

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > OPEN MIND. and still reasoning it with our

> current

> > > needs,

> > > > > > values.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Prashant

> > > > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> Prashant,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bravo!

> > > > > > > > > We would welcome your posting several birthdata

> > > > refuting

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > age-

> > > > > > > > old but not quite corroborated 'notion' to align

> with

> > > > your

> > > > > > bold

> > > > > > > > statement

> > > > > > > > > and astrological conviction!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> Prashant

> > > > Kumar

> > > > > G B

> > > > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > I DISAGREE with notions that Guru spoils

> the

> > > house

> > > > > he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > in

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > > > DIVINITY

> > > > > AND

> > > > > > > > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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