Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path is important 4/4/06-1

[Guest guest]

Guru-Bashing in 5th

The right path to research is give full details like birth details of

the wife as well, dates like married on, miscarriage/s, anyone or two other

events in their life with a date. Without more data to work on can limit myself

to this much.

 

 

17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

 

Well there has to be appropriate time for any event to happen, dasha, transit

support and also other factors w.r.t 5th house, karaka etc.

 

 

 

Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and 12-10-07, the delivery can

be when JUPT is transiting JUPT and in trine to Natal Moon, and Venus in whose

start JUPT is.

 

 

28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

 

It is so obvious there will be miscarriages here, Mars aspecting by 8th

aspect the 5th house and its lord, karaka Jupiter.

 

In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am sure many works will support

the same reading.

 

 

8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

 

HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

 

Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and Guru takes the cross!

 

The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

I also feel inspite of the hard way children have come to this man his

marriage is likely to end between 8-6-7 to 6-2-10, thes eeds can be sown

between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

I assume this man is an electronic, electrical engineer.or working in

such places.

 

 

AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE other points? Even a partial

acknowledgement that other factors r there and yet it is in the basket of

Guru’s malefic nature.

 

I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY IN THE NAME OF RESEARCH ALL

WILD THINKING MUST NOT GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

 

PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF DEATH, the way he has done

research, like wise CEO Carter, we need research like the westerners do a

comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal effort.

 

I remember in ICAS Group discussions people in back benches talking about

a women’s chart if Mars+Venus was there “why does she need marriage….! (impish

laughs)” when anxious parents wanted to know when their daughter will get

married. Is this research are all Mars+venus women whores?

RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS SUPERSTITIONS ARE, IT MUUT BE

OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL ASPECTS.

RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS ALL HOUSES, LORDS SHIPS

YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and the point emphasized in any

research head must be highlighted.

MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some research on infidelity in various

walks of life including IIT and brought his wife along to the discussion too

just in case people doubted his work, that he was also a pervert that is how he

came to know some close details of others.

 

I would welcome readers to write on this if my view of research is not

fair.

 

 

Prashant

 

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear Tatvam and all,

I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter in fifth house has caused

child-birth related problems.

 

1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

 

Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts. Notice jupiter in

its own sign.

 

2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

 

Married since last ten years, first son born after two miscarriages, second son

born after two miscarriages again. Jupiter in own sign in fifth.

 

3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

 

First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended when the embryo

mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third conception, done under

astrological guidance, was successfull last year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

 

This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case. Even the horoscopes

have some similarities. I have many other such cases in my database. Whatever

statement I give is based upon my experiences and observations in my daily

practice as an astrologer.

 

 

Of course, there are other factors responsible along with the jupiter in fifth,

like the position of planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's placement, etc.

But, all the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been proven

wrong.

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

-

Tatvamasi

Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad commentry

 

 

Friends,

I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of today.

Please remember that everything which is written is not always right and

everything that present day people research is not wrong.

 

When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father having Guru in

5th bhava might have a son but it is possible that he would never get along

well or stay away from son/vice versa.

I would sight an example,

Male

DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

He has a son and two daughters.

He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter. Son has lived away from

him since last six years .

 

Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

 

I wish people tread all that I have to post before branding terms in

astrology.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear K.Gopu,

 

Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors which can give

child-birth related problems. We are looking for astrological explanations

here. The bio-medical reasons are known to all.

 

Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole purpose of the

discussions. This is an astrological group, remember?!!

 

 

Ashutosh

 

-

K Gopu

Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

 

 

dear ashutosh ji,

I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should cause noprogeny?

5th house if it is afflicted may lead to delayed or no progeny. today in our

country IVF(in vitro fertilisation) clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house be badly afflicted,

it has to be studied. and in case of Sri abhiram mishra, if the fifth house is

strong in his wife's chart then definitely she can give birth to a child.

Unexplainable miscarriages are rejection of the paternal cells by the mother,

this is based on immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason they say for

which some degree of successful treatment is

available.

Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

proposition.

 

my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

with a child.

k.gopu

 

 

Prashant

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Prashantji,

That is exactly the point that no single factor can

singlehandedly dictate the terms of life for an

individual. I can a dozen examples where Guru in 5th

has made no difference to the progeny and there are

dozen others where it is visible.

I think we can agree on one premise that many factors

contribute and leave it at that unless we are able to

collect a sizeable data of charts and say that Guru in

fifth increases/ makes no difference to children

regards

rishi

 

--- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

> Guru-Bashing in 5th

> The right path to research is give full

> details like birth details of the wife as well,

> dates like married on, miscarriage/s, anyone or two

> other events in their life with a date. Without more

> data to work on can limit myself to this much.

>

>

> 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Well there has to be appropriate time for any

> event to happen, dasha, transit support and also

> other factors w.r.t 5th house, karaka etc.

>

>

>

> Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and

> 12-10-07, the delivery can be when JUPT is

> transiting JUPT and in trine to Natal Moon, and

> Venus in whose start JUPT is.

>

>

> 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

>

> It is so obvious there will be miscarriages

> here, Mars aspecting by 8th aspect the 5th house

> and its lord, karaka Jupiter.

>

> In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am

> sure many works will support the same reading.

>

>

> 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

>

> HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

>

> Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and

> Guru takes the cross!

>

> The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

> 5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

> and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

> I also feel inspite of the hard way children

> have come to this man his marriage is likely to end

> between 8-6-7 to 6-2-10, thes eeds can be sown

> between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

> I assume this man is an electronic,

> electrical engineer.or working in such places.

>

>

> AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE

> other points? Even a partial acknowledgement that

> other factors r there and yet it is in the basket of

> Guru’s malefic nature.

>

> I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY

> IN THE NAME OF RESEARCH ALL WILD THINKING MUST NOT

> GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

>

> PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF

> DEATH, the way he has done research, like wise CEO

> Carter, we need research like the westerners do a

> comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal effort.

>

> I remember in ICAS Group discussions people

> in back benches talking about a women’s chart if

> Mars+Venus was there “why does she need marriage….!

> (impish laughs)” when anxious parents wanted to

> know when their daughter will get married. Is this

> research are all Mars+venus women whores?

> RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS

> SUPERSTITIONS ARE, IT MUUT BE OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL

> ASPECTS.

> RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS

> ALL HOUSES, LORDS SHIPS YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS

> ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and the point emphasized in any

> research head must be highlighted.

> MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some

> research on infidelity in various walks of life

> including IIT and brought his wife along to the

> discussion too just in case people doubted his

> work, that he was also a pervert that is how he came

> to know some close details of others.

>

> I would welcome readers to write on this if

> my view of research is not fair.

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh

> wrote:

> Dear Tatvam and all,

> I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter

> in fifth house has caused child-birth related

> problems.

>

> 1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Married since last four years, no kids despite best

> efforts. Notice jupiter in its own sign.

>

> 2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

>

> Married since last ten years, first son born after

> two miscarriages, second son born after two

> miscarriages again. Jupiter in own sign in fifth.

>

> 3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

>

> First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one

> ended when the embryo mysteriously dissolved into

> the uterus. The third conception, done under

> astrological guidance, was successfull last year.

> The child, a boy, is healthy.

>

> This last case has similarities with Abhiram

> Mishra's case. Even the horoscopes have some

> similarities. I have many other such cases in my

> database. Whatever statement I give is based upon my

> experiences and observations in my daily practice

> as an astrologer.

>

>

> Of course, there are other factors responsible

> along with the jupiter in fifth, like the position

> of planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's

> placement, etc. But, all the so called blind

> beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been proven

> wrong.

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> -

> Tatvamasi

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th

> house....Sad commentry

>

>

> Friends,

> I found some sly remarks by a member about

> researchers of today.

> Please remember that everything which is

> written is not always right and everything that

> present day people research is not wrong.

>

> When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also

> means a father having Guru in 5th bhava might have

> a son but it is possible that he would never get

> along well or stay away from son/vice versa.

> I would sight an example,

> Male

> DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

> He has a son and two daughters.

> He cannot see eye to eye with son and a

> daughter. Son has lived away from him since last

> six years .

>

> Thus Guru plays a role here in different

> capacity.

>

> I wish people tread all that I have to post

> before branding terms in astrology.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh

> wrote:

> Dear K.Gopu,

>

> Guru in fifth house is only one of the several

> factors which can give child-birth related

> problems. We are looking for astrological

> explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known

> to all.

>

> Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind

> the whole purpose of the discussions. This is an

> astrological group, remember?!!

>

>

> Ashutosh

>

> -

> K Gopu

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

>

>

> dear ashutosh ji,

> I fail to understand as to why only guru in

> 5th should cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is

> afflicted may lead to delayed or no progeny. today

> in our country IVF(in vitro fertilisation)

> clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant,

 

We all are aware that wife's horoscope is needed under

such circumstances. But, the main topic was of jupiter in fifth in any

individual's horoscope. There is a lot in astrology and a lot deeper one can go.

But, a wise person can still infer much from the given details only.

 

Re-check the horoscopes which you are getting out of the birth details I

gave. You have got two of them wrong. All these horoscopes are of men, husbands.

Mars' aspect on fifth is harmfull for childbirth in the horoscope of a woman not

a man.

 

Anyway, I never wanted to get into this argument, but as I have commited

the folly of jumping in fire, I must feel the heat too.

 

Quoting myself: Of course, there are other factors responsible along

with the jupiter in fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas, the

fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's

beneficience have been proven wrong.

 

Why is no one is reading full messages here, word by word. Arguements

for the sake of arguements can go endlessly.

 

 

This is my last post on this topic.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

[The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group

consultations may be chargeable]

 

 

 

 

-

Prashant Kumar G B

Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 11:28

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path is important

4/4/06-1

 

 

Guru-Bashing in 5th

The right path to research is give full details like birth details

of the wife as well, dates like married on, miscarriage/s, anyone or two other

events in their life with a date. Without more data to work on can limit myself

to this much.

 

 

17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

 

Well there has to be appropriate time for any event to happen, dasha,

transit support and also other factors w.r.t 5th house, karaka etc.

 

 

 

Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and 12-10-07, the delivery

can be when JUPT is transiting JUPT and in trine to Natal Moon, and Venus in

whose start JUPT is.

 

 

28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

 

It is so obvious there will be miscarriages here, Mars aspecting by 8th

aspect the 5th house and its lord, karaka Jupiter.

 

In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am sure many works will support

the same reading.

 

 

8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

 

HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

 

Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and Guru takes the cross!

 

The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

I also feel inspite of the hard way children have come to this man his

marriage is likely to end between 8-6-7 to 6-2-10, thes eeds can be sown

between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

I assume this man is an electronic, electrical engineer.or working in

such places.

 

 

AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE other points? Even a partial

acknowledgement that other factors r there and yet it is in the basket of

Guru's malefic nature.

 

I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY IN THE NAME OF RESEARCH ALL

WILD THINKING MUST NOT GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

 

PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF DEATH, the way he has done

research, like wise CEO Carter, we need research like the westerners do a

comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal effort.

 

I remember in ICAS Group discussions people in back benches talking

about a women's chart if Mars+Venus was there "why does she need marriage..!

(impish laughs)" when anxious parents wanted to know when their daughter will

get married. Is this research are all Mars+venus women whores?

RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS SUPERSTITIONS ARE, IT MUUT BE

OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL ASPECTS.

RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS ALL HOUSES, LORDS SHIPS

YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and the point emphasized in any

research head must be highlighted.

MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some research on infidelity in

various walks of life including IIT and brought his wife along to the

discussion too just in case people doubted his work, that he was also a pervert

that is how he came to know some close details of others.

 

I would welcome readers to write on this if my view of research is not

fair.

 

 

Prashant

 

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear Tatvam and all,

I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter in fifth house has caused

child-birth related problems.

 

1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

 

Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts. Notice jupiter in

its own sign.

 

2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

 

Married since last ten years, first son born after two miscarriages, second

son born after two miscarriages again. Jupiter in own sign in fifth.

 

3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

 

First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended when the embryo

mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third conception, done under

astrological guidance, was successfull last year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

 

This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case. Even the

horoscopes have some similarities. I have many other such cases in my database.

Whatever statement I give is based upon my experiences and observations in my

daily practice as an astrologer.

 

 

Of course, there are other factors responsible along with the jupiter in

fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's

placement, etc. But, all the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience

have been proven wrong.

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

-

Tatvamasi

Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad commentry

 

 

Friends,

I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of today.

Please remember that everything which is written is not always right

and everything that present day people research is not wrong.

 

When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father having Guru

in 5th bhava might have a son but it is possible that he would never get along

well or stay away from son/vice versa.

I would sight an example,

Male

DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

He has a son and two daughters.

He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter. Son has lived away

from him since last six years .

 

Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

 

I wish people tread all that I have to post before branding terms in

astrology.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear K.Gopu,

 

Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors which can give

child-birth related problems. We are looking for astrological explanations

here. The bio-medical reasons are known to all.

 

Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole purpose of the

discussions. This is an astrological group, remember?!!

 

 

Ashutosh

 

-

K Gopu

Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

 

 

dear ashutosh ji,

I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should cause noprogeny?

5th house if it is afflicted may lead to delayed or no progeny. today in our

country IVF(in vitro fertilisation) clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house be badly

afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case of Sri abhiram mishra, if the

fifth house is strong in his wife's chart then definitely she can give birth to

a child. Unexplainable miscarriages are rejection of the paternal cells by the

mother, this is based on immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason they

say for which some degree of successful treatment is

available.

Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

proposition.

 

my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

with a child.

k.gopu

 

 

Prashant

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

This is knowledge sharing in full swing. Highly learned & qualified

astrologers providing thier veiws. Though I am not as big an

astrologer who have been giving thier views, but I have also learned

that position of the Karaka in the same bhave is not a favourable

preposition. The same holds good for other karakas also. Like Moon

in fourth, sun in ninth etc.

 

If we take the case 1 given by Ashutoshji i.e 17th march 1972,

17.20. Delhi, Jupiters Antara starts from March 2007 and is hopefull

of giving the progeny. Going by the males chart only, the native

shall be going through Cap-Sagg in chara dasha. From Major rashi

capricor 5th house is tormented by Mars & saturn. The Minor rashi

sagg is rashi of accidents with GK Moon placed in fifth. Jupiter

here can very well prove to be a nashka.

 

I reserve the right to be totally wrong in my analysis, but I cant

resist my bit.

 

Best Regards,

 

Akhil Jain

 

 

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> We all are aware that wife's horoscope is

needed under such circumstances. But, the main topic was of jupiter

in fifth in any individual's horoscope. There is a lot in astrology

and a lot deeper one can go. But, a wise person can still infer much

from the given details only.

>

> Re-check the horoscopes which you are getting out of the

birth details I gave. You have got two of them wrong. All these

horoscopes are of men, husbands. Mars' aspect on fifth is harmfull

for childbirth in the horoscope of a woman not a man.

>

> Anyway, I never wanted to get into this argument, but as I

have commited the folly of jumping in fire, I must feel the heat

too.

>

> Quoting myself: Of course, there are other factors

responsible along with the jupiter in fifth, like the position of

planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all

the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been

proven wrong.

>

> Why is no one is reading full messages here, word by

word. Arguements for the sake of arguements can go endlessly.

>

>

> This is my last post on this topic.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-

group consultations may be chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> Prashant Kumar G B

>

> Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 11:28

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path

is important 4/4/06-1

>

>

> Guru-Bashing in 5th

> The right path to research is give full details like

birth details of the wife as well, dates like married on,

miscarriage/s, anyone or two other events in their life with a

date. Without more data to work on can limit myself to this much.

>

>

> 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Well there has to be appropriate time for any event to

happen, dasha, transit support and also other factors w.r.t 5th

house, karaka etc.

>

>

>

> Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and 12-10-07,

the delivery can be when JUPT is transiting JUPT and in trine to

Natal Moon, and Venus in whose start JUPT is.

>

>

> 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

>

> It is so obvious there will be miscarriages here, Mars

aspecting by 8th aspect the 5th house and its lord, karaka Jupiter.

>

> In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am sure many works

will support the same reading.

>

>

> 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

>

> HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

>

> Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and Guru takes the

cross!

>

> The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

> 5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

> and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

> I also feel inspite of the hard way children have come

to this man his marriage is likely to end between 8-6-7 to 6-2-10,

thes eeds can be sown between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

> I assume this man is an electronic, electrical

engineer.or working in such places.

>

>

> AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE other points?

Even a partial acknowledgement that other factors r there and yet

it is in the basket of Guru's malefic nature.

>

> I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY IN THE NAME

OF RESEARCH ALL WILD THINKING MUST NOT GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

>

> PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF DEATH, the way

he has done research, like wise CEO Carter, we need research like

the westerners do a comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal

effort.

>

> I remember in ICAS Group discussions people in back

benches talking about a women's chart if Mars+Venus was there "why

does she need marriage..! (impish laughs)" when anxious parents

wanted to know when their daughter will get married. Is this

research are all Mars+venus women whores?

> RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS SUPERSTITIONS

ARE, IT MUUT BE OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL ASPECTS.

> RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS ALL HOUSES,

LORDS SHIPS YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and the

point emphasized in any research head must be highlighted.

> MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some research on

infidelity in various walks of life including IIT and brought his

wife along to the discussion too just in case people doubted his

work, that he was also a pervert that is how he came to know some

close details of others.

>

> I would welcome readers to write on this if my view of

research is not fair.

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> Dear Tatvam and all,

> I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter in fifth

house has caused child-birth related problems.

>

> 1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts.

Notice jupiter in its own sign.

>

> 2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

>

> Married since last ten years, first son born after two

miscarriages, second son born after two miscarriages again. Jupiter

in own sign in fifth.

>

> 3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

>

> First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended when

the embryo mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third

conception, done under astrological guidance, was successfull last

year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

>

> This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case.

Even the horoscopes have some similarities. I have many other such

cases in my database. Whatever statement I give is based upon my

experiences and observations in my daily practice as an astrologer.

>

>

> Of course, there are other factors responsible along with the

jupiter in fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas, the

fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all the so called blind beliefs

in jupiter's beneficience have been proven wrong.

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> -

> Tatvamasi

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad

commentry

>

>

> Friends,

> I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of

today.

> Please remember that everything which is written is not

always right and everything that present day people research is not

wrong.

>

> When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father

having Guru in 5th bhava might have a son but it is possible that

he would never get along well or stay away from son/vice versa.

> I would sight an example,

> Male

> DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

> He has a son and two daughters.

> He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter. Son has

lived away from him since last six years .

>

> Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

>

> I wish people tread all that I have to post before

branding terms in astrology.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> Dear K.Gopu,

>

> Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors which

can give child-birth related problems. We are looking for

astrological explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known

to all.

>

> Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole

purpose of the discussions. This is an astrological group,

remember?!!

>

>

> Ashutosh

>

> -

> K Gopu

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

>

>

> dear ashutosh ji,

> I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should

cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead to delayed

or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in vitro fertilisation)

clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

> People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house be

badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case of Sri abhiram

mishra, if the fifth house is strong in his wife's chart then

definitely she can give birth to a child. Unexplainable

miscarriages are rejection of the paternal cells by the mother,

this is based on immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason

they say for which some degree of successful treatment is

> available.

> Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

> proposition.

>

> my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

> with a child.

> k.gopu

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

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Dear Akhil,

 

Yes, the jupiter antardasha has full potential of giving him a

son. But, present rahu antardasha is going to cause his divorce. Some problems

have already begun since last six months.

 

One way or the other, the birth of his progeny will be delayed.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

[The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group

consultations may be chargeable]

 

 

 

-

Akhil Jain

Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 16:14

Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path is important

4/4/06-1

 

 

Dear Group,

 

This is knowledge sharing in full swing. Highly learned & qualified

astrologers providing thier veiws. Though I am not as big an

astrologer who have been giving thier views, but I have also learned

that position of the Karaka in the same bhave is not a favourable

preposition. The same holds good for other karakas also. Like Moon

in fourth, sun in ninth etc.

 

If we take the case 1 given by Ashutoshji i.e 17th march 1972,

17.20. Delhi, Jupiters Antara starts from March 2007 and is hopefull

of giving the progeny. Going by the males chart only, the native

shall be going through Cap-Sagg in chara dasha. From Major rashi

capricor 5th house is tormented by Mars & saturn. The Minor rashi

sagg is rashi of accidents with GK Moon placed in fifth. Jupiter

here can very well prove to be a nashka.

 

I reserve the right to be totally wrong in my analysis, but I cant

resist my bit.

 

Best Regards,

 

Akhil Jain

 

 

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> We all are aware that wife's horoscope is

needed under such circumstances. But, the main topic was of jupiter

in fifth in any individual's horoscope. There is a lot in astrology

and a lot deeper one can go. But, a wise person can still infer much

from the given details only.

>

> Re-check the horoscopes which you are getting out of the

birth details I gave. You have got two of them wrong. All these

horoscopes are of men, husbands. Mars' aspect on fifth is harmfull

for childbirth in the horoscope of a woman not a man.

>

> Anyway, I never wanted to get into this argument, but as I

have commited the folly of jumping in fire, I must feel the heat

too.

>

> Quoting myself: Of course, there are other factors

responsible along with the jupiter in fifth, like the position of

planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all

the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been

proven wrong.

>

> Why is no one is reading full messages here, word by

word. Arguements for the sake of arguements can go endlessly.

>

>

> This is my last post on this topic.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-

group consultations may be chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> Prashant Kumar G B

>

> Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 11:28

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path

is important 4/4/06-1

>

>

> Guru-Bashing in 5th

> The right path to research is give full details like

birth details of the wife as well, dates like married on,

miscarriage/s, anyone or two other events in their life with a

date. Without more data to work on can limit myself to this much.

>

>

> 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Well there has to be appropriate time for any event to

happen, dasha, transit support and also other factors w.r.t 5th

house, karaka etc.

>

>

>

> Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and 12-10-07,

the delivery can be when JUPT is transiting JUPT and in trine to

Natal Moon, and Venus in whose start JUPT is.

>

>

> 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

>

> It is so obvious there will be miscarriages here, Mars

aspecting by 8th aspect the 5th house and its lord, karaka Jupiter.

>

> In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am sure many works

will support the same reading.

>

>

> 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

>

> HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

>

> Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and Guru takes the

cross!

>

> The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

> 5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

> and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

> I also feel inspite of the hard way children have come

to this man his marriage is likely to end between 8-6-7 to 6-2-10,

thes eeds can be sown between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

> I assume this man is an electronic, electrical

engineer.or working in such places.

>

>

> AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE other points?

Even a partial acknowledgement that other factors r there and yet

it is in the basket of Guru's malefic nature.

>

> I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY IN THE NAME

OF RESEARCH ALL WILD THINKING MUST NOT GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

>

> PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF DEATH, the way

he has done research, like wise CEO Carter, we need research like

the westerners do a comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal

effort.

>

> I remember in ICAS Group discussions people in back

benches talking about a women's chart if Mars+Venus was there "why

does she need marriage..! (impish laughs)" when anxious parents

wanted to know when their daughter will get married. Is this

research are all Mars+venus women whores?

> RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS SUPERSTITIONS

ARE, IT MUUT BE OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL ASPECTS.

> RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS ALL HOUSES,

LORDS SHIPS YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and the

point emphasized in any research head must be highlighted.

> MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some research on

infidelity in various walks of life including IIT and brought his

wife along to the discussion too just in case people doubted his

work, that he was also a pervert that is how he came to know some

close details of others.

>

> I would welcome readers to write on this if my view of

research is not fair.

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> Dear Tatvam and all,

> I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter in fifth

house has caused child-birth related problems.

>

> 1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

>

> Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts.

Notice jupiter in its own sign.

>

> 2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

>

> Married since last ten years, first son born after two

miscarriages, second son born after two miscarriages again. Jupiter

in own sign in fifth.

>

> 3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

>

> First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended when

the embryo mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third

conception, done under astrological guidance, was successfull last

year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

>

> This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case.

Even the horoscopes have some similarities. I have many other such

cases in my database. Whatever statement I give is based upon my

experiences and observations in my daily practice as an astrologer.

>

>

> Of course, there are other factors responsible along with the

jupiter in fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas, the

fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all the so called blind beliefs

in jupiter's beneficience have been proven wrong.

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> -

> Tatvamasi

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad

commentry

>

>

> Friends,

> I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers of

today.

> Please remember that everything which is written is not

always right and everything that present day people research is not

wrong.

>

> When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a father

having Guru in 5th bhava might have a son but it is possible that

he would never get along well or stay away from son/vice versa.

> I would sight an example,

> Male

> DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

> He has a son and two daughters.

> He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter. Son has

lived away from him since last six years .

>

> Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

>

> I wish people tread all that I have to post before

branding terms in astrology.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote:

> Dear K.Gopu,

>

> Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors which

can give child-birth related problems. We are looking for

astrological explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are known

to all.

>

> Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the whole

purpose of the discussions. This is an astrological group,

remember?!!

>

>

> Ashutosh

>

> -

> K Gopu

>

> Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

>

>

> dear ashutosh ji,

> I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th should

cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead to delayed

or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in vitro fertilisation)

clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

> People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house be

badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case of Sri abhiram

mishra, if the fifth house is strong in his wife's chart then

definitely she can give birth to a child. Unexplainable

miscarriages are rejection of the paternal cells by the mother,

this is based on immunorejection theory. this is one of the reason

they say for which some degree of successful treatment is

> available.

> Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

> proposition.

>

> my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

> with a child.

> k.gopu

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

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low rates.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ashutoshji,

 

Yes thats true that Jupiter dasha has the potential to give child,

but the point which I was trying to make is that it will also be

very tough on the new born. He might have to face accidents/serious

illness etc during the antara of the Jupiter.

 

MD lord Moon in ninth aspected by fifth lord Jupiter is capable of

affecting the fifth house indications. But Moon being twelfth lord,

in gandhanta and badhakstahna is capable of giving negative results

also. In D-7 Moon is eigth lord in fifth. AD lord in addition to

being afflicted by the subject of the thread is aspected by

badhakadhipati Mars. In D-7 jupiter occupies badhaksthana from Fifth.

 

Best regards,

 

Akhil Jain

 

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh wrote:

>

> Dear Akhil,

>

> Yes, the jupiter antardasha has full potential of

giving him a son. But, present rahu antardasha is going to cause his

divorce. Some problems have already begun since last six months.

>

> One way or the other, the birth of his progeny will be

delayed.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

> [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-

group consultations may be chargeable]

>

>

>

> -

> Akhil Jain

>

> Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 16:14

> Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH path

is important 4/4/06-1

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> This is knowledge sharing in full swing. Highly learned &

qualified

> astrologers providing thier veiws. Though I am not as big an

> astrologer who have been giving thier views, but I have also

learned

> that position of the Karaka in the same bhave is not a

favourable

> preposition. The same holds good for other karakas also. Like

Moon

> in fourth, sun in ninth etc.

>

> If we take the case 1 given by Ashutoshji i.e 17th march 1972,

> 17.20. Delhi, Jupiters Antara starts from March 2007 and is

hopefull

> of giving the progeny. Going by the males chart only, the native

> shall be going through Cap-Sagg in chara dasha. From Major rashi

> capricor 5th house is tormented by Mars & saturn. The Minor

rashi

> sagg is rashi of accidents with GK Moon placed in fifth. Jupiter

> here can very well prove to be a nashka.

>

> I reserve the right to be totally wrong in my analysis, but I

cant

> resist my bit.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Akhil Jain

>

>

>

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > We all are aware that wife's horoscope

is

> needed under such circumstances. But, the main topic was of

jupiter

> in fifth in any individual's horoscope. There is a lot in

astrology

> and a lot deeper one can go. But, a wise person can still infer

much

> from the given details only.

> >

> > Re-check the horoscopes which you are getting out of

the

> birth details I gave. You have got two of them wrong. All these

> horoscopes are of men, husbands. Mars' aspect on fifth is

harmfull

> for childbirth in the horoscope of a woman not a man.

> >

> > Anyway, I never wanted to get into this argument, but

as I

> have commited the folly of jumping in fire, I must feel the heat

> too.

> >

> > Quoting myself: Of course, there are other factors

> responsible along with the jupiter in fifth, like the position

of

> planets in other vargas, the fifth lord's placement, etc. But,

all

> the so called blind beliefs in jupiter's beneficience have been

> proven wrong.

> >

> > Why is no one is reading full messages here, word by

> word. Arguements for the sake of arguements can go endlessly.

> >

> >

> > This is my last post on this topic.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but

off-

> group consultations may be chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Prashant Kumar G B

> >

> > Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 11:28

> > Re: Having Guru in the 5th house...RESEARCH

path

> is important 4/4/06-1

> >

> >

> > Guru-Bashing in 5th

> > The right path to research is give full details

like

> birth details of the wife as well, dates like married on,

> miscarriage/s, anyone or two other events in their life with a

> date. Without more data to work on can limit myself to this

much.

> >

> >

> > 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

> >

> > Well there has to be appropriate time for any event to

> happen, dasha, transit support and also other factors w.r.t 5th

> house, karaka etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > Here I see him having a child between 12-6-06 and 12-10-

07,

> the delivery can be when JUPT is transiting JUPT and in trine

to

> Natal Moon, and Venus in whose start JUPT is.

> >

> >

> > 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi

> >

> > It is so obvious there will be miscarriages here,

Mars

> aspecting by 8th aspect the 5th house and its lord, karaka

Jupiter.

> >

> > In Bhava Rahu+Guru r there together, I am sure many

works

> will support the same reading.

> >

> >

> > 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi

> >

> > HERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS

> >

> > Here it is Tula Lagna and Guru in 3rd? and Guru takes

the

> cross!

> >

> > The 5th lord Satn in 8th with 8th lord

> > 5th house aspected by sani from the 8th house

> > and Mars from 10th house by 8th aspect.

> > I also feel inspite of the hard way children have

come

> to this man his marriage is likely to end between 8-6-7 to 6-2-

10,

> thes eeds can be sown between 2/7/06 to 8-6-7.

> > I assume this man is an electronic, electrical

> engineer.or working in such places.

> >

> >

> > AND GURU ALONE IS THE CULPRIT NONE OF THE other

points?

> Even a partial acknowledgement that other factors r there and

yet

> it is in the basket of Guru's malefic nature.

> >

> > I HAVE NOT SAID RESEARCH IS NOT GOOD, I SAY IN THE

NAME

> OF RESEARCH ALL WILD THINKING MUST NOT GET SUJBECT IN DISARRAY.

> >

> > PLEASE LOOK AT ROBERT HAUCK'S ASTROLOGY OF DEATH, the

way

> he has done research, like wise CEO Carter, we need research

like

> the westerners do a comprehensive look at a chart no piecemeal

> effort.

> >

> > I remember in ICAS Group discussions people in back

> benches talking about a women's chart if Mars+Venus was

there "why

> does she need marriage..! (impish laughs)" when anxious parents

> wanted to know when their daughter will get married. Is this

> research are all Mars+venus women whores?

> > RESEARCH FOR RESEARCH SAKE IS AS BLIND AS

SUPERSTITIONS

> ARE, IT MUUT BE OPEN AND FRANK ON ALL ASPECTS.

> > RESEARCH MUST BE COMPREHENSIVE IN ALL ASPECTS ALL

HOUSES,

> LORDS SHIPS YOGAS, GOCHARA, STRENGHTS ETC. IN SOME DETAIL and

the

> point emphasized in any research head must be highlighted.

> > MR. A V Sundaram of Madras IIT did some research on

> infidelity in various walks of life including IIT and brought

his

> wife along to the discussion too just in case people doubted

his

> work, that he was also a pervert that is how he came to know

some

> close details of others.

> >

> > I would welcome readers to write on this if my view

of

> research is not fair.

> >

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> >

> > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh@> wrote:

> > Dear Tatvam and all,

> > I am giving some birth details of men where jupiter in fifth

> house has caused child-birth related problems.

> >

> > 1. 17th march 1972, 17.20. Delhi,

> >

> > Married since last four years, no kids despite best efforts.

> Notice jupiter in its own sign.

> >

> > 2. 28th april 1972, 15.00, Delhi,

> >

> > Married since last ten years, first son born after two

> miscarriages, second son born after two miscarriages again.

Jupiter

> in own sign in fifth.

> >

> > 3. 8th July 1974, 13.20, Delhi,

> >

> > First conception ended up in miscarriage, second one ended

when

> the embryo mysteriously dissolved into the uterus. The third

> conception, done under astrological guidance, was successfull

last

> year. The child, a boy, is healthy.

> >

> > This last case has similarities with Abhiram Mishra's case.

> Even the horoscopes have some similarities. I have many other

such

> cases in my database. Whatever statement I give is based upon

my

> experiences and observations in my daily practice as an

astrologer.

> >

> >

> > Of course, there are other factors responsible along with

the

> jupiter in fifth, like the position of planets in other vargas,

the

> fifth lord's placement, etc. But, all the so called blind

beliefs

> in jupiter's beneficience have been proven wrong.

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tatvamasi

> >

> > Monday, 03 April, 2006 20:59

> > Re: Having Guru in the 5th house....Sad

> commentry

> >

> >

> > Friends,

> > I found some sly remarks by a member about researchers

of

> today.

> > Please remember that everything which is written is

not

> always right and everything that present day people research is

not

> wrong.

> >

> > When I say Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, it also means a

father

> having Guru in 5th bhava might have a son but it is possible

that

> he would never get along well or stay away from son/vice versa.

> > I would sight an example,

> > Male

> > DOB: 12th June 1949 , at 14.00 hrs, Sholapur.

> > He has a son and two daughters.

> > He cannot see eye to eye with son and a daughter. Son

has

> lived away from him since last six years .

> >

> > Thus Guru plays a role here in different capacity.

> >

> > I wish people tread all that I have to post before

> branding terms in astrology.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh@> wrote:

> > Dear K.Gopu,

> >

> > Guru in fifth house is only one of the several factors which

> can give child-birth related problems. We are looking for

> astrological explanations here. The bio-medical reasons are

known

> to all.

> >

> > Scepticism is okay, but one should also keep in mind the

whole

> purpose of the discussions. This is an astrological group,

> remember?!!

> >

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> > Ashutosh

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> > -

> > K Gopu

> >

> > Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:40

> > Re: Having Guru in the 5th house

> >

> >

> > dear ashutosh ji,

> > I fail to understand as to why only guru in 5th

should

> cause noprogeny? 5th house if it is afflicted may lead to

delayed

> or no progeny. today in our country IVF(in vitro fertilisation)

> clinics/hoslitals are increasing.

> > People who go to these clinics, will there 5th house

be

> badly afflicted, it has to be studied. and in case of Sri

abhiram

> mishra, if the fifth house is strong in his wife's chart then

> definitely she can give birth to a child. Unexplainable

> miscarriages are rejection of the paternal cells by the mother,

> this is based on immunorejection theory. this is one of the

reason

> they say for which some degree of successful treatment is

> > available.

> > Undoubtedly adopting a child is a very noble

> > proposition.

> >

> > my good wishes to shri abhiram mishra to be blessed

> > with a child.

> > k.gopu

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