Idol Worship/ sutthi vera sutthi

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that's ok mr surya can u please offer vedic offerings on my behalf so that with

ur help i get some fruit are fruits i will be blessed thank you for doing so in

advance raj k

 

surya <dattapr2000 wrote: Q) You are advising homogeneity in action,

words and mind. But in

this world it is not possible to live with such homogeneity. What is

the solution?

 

A) I advised homogeneity before the Lord in the spiritual effort. I

never told that you should be homogeneous in this world. Lord

Krishna told Dharma Raja to tell a lie in order to kill Dronacharya.

Lord Krishna tells in that context, that one should cheat the

cheaters in the world. Lord Krishna says "If you go into the world

of Maya without Maya, you will be killed as a soldier who goes to

the war without armor on the body". When you are associating with

Maya for the sake of the world for a long time, the Maya enters your

nature. You are showing the same Maya before the Lord. You are

treating the Lord as an outsider and also as a cheater. He never

cheated you. He gave you this human birth even though your file of

Karma recommends the birth of animals. He gave the longevity, health

and wealth and protected you several times in your life. Why should

you cheat Him? You are not cheating your family members. Can't you

equalize the Lord at least with your family members? If Maya affects

you continuously, why are you not showing the Maya in the case of

your family members also? Then the Lord can excuse you because you

are showing Maya everywhere. This means that you are not treating

the Lord equal to your family members. You are offering the food to

Him with your hand and eating. You are putting your jewels on the

statue of the Lord and taking them away by next day. The statue is

in your house. Why don't you keep the jewels on the statue forever?

The wealth is in your house only. Is it proper to take out the

wealth that is donated to the Lord? When you are donating even to a

human being, you are not taking back. You are not considering that

statue equal to even an ordinary human being. You say that the

statue is not inert object and is the living Lord in your eyes. If

it is not statue and is the living Lord, why are you doing such

tricks? While giving jewels to the statue, the statue is the living

Lord according to you. But when you take away the jewels you are

treating it as an inert statue. If the statue is alive, why is it

not eating your food? Why is it not talking with you?

 

You will not accept the human form of the Lord because if you offer

the food He will eat. If you give jewels to Him, He will wear and

will not return to you. On one side you say the statue is not inert.

But on the other hand your practical behavior proves that the statue

is inert. You are fooling the Lord. You are showing false love on

Him. You want to impress Him so that He feels that you have real

love on Him and then get all your desires fulfilled. You show a drop

of real love, which you are showing to your children. You are giving

a pot of cow milk to your children. At least give one spoon of the

cow milk to the Lord. If you can't give even that spoon of cow milk,

keep quite. The Lord is not begging you for the cow milk. If you

cannot please the Lord, keep silent. He will not be furious with

you. Don't show false love and fool Him to get the boons. If you

can't give even a drop of cow milk, keep quite. But don't give a pot

of donkey milk, which is false love, and make the Lord furious.

 

It is not wrong if you cannot please the Lord but it is the greatest

sin if you fool Him by false love and try to get the benefit from

Him. Without the practical sacrifice that proves the real love, all

your traditional activities and dramatic dress like silk cloth,

sacred ash on the forehead and garlands of beads are only the means

of cheating and fooling the Lord. You can fool a human being who is

ignorant or having little knowledge. But the Lord is omniscient.

Knowing this you are trying to fool Him!! Are you not the biggest

fool before Him? Therefore have the shield of Maya when you enter

the world but when you come to the Lord remove the shield of Maya.

Even if you treat the Lord as the statue in your prayer room, stop

all these traditional foolish activity and be real. Since the statue

cannot eat the food, don't offer the food. Since the statue is not

having life, don't put flowers, don't lit the oil lamp when the

light is present, don't burn the fume sticks and camphor, don't

break the coconut etc., You see the beauty of the Lord in the statue

or photo and fix your eyes. Develop attraction and love. Remember

His qualities.

 

If there is darkness, lit the lamp. To remove the darkness, only oil

lamp is not needed. The alternative electric light is there. Avoid

the oil lamp in order to avoid the pollution. If you want good

smell, burn the fume stick. Burning the camphor has no use and

moreover it causes pollution. To satisfy your vision you can

decorate the statue with flowers. What ever you do, you do for your

self-satisfaction, which is the fruit for all your actions. You can

offer the food to the statue, but it is for your satisfaction only

and don't expect any extra fruit from the Lord. You can break the

coconut before the Lord and offer the broken pieces of coconut to

the Lord. But you are eating the coconut. Don't ask the Lord for any

fruit for breaking the coconut. Therefore you can do all these

things before statues and photos with a divine feeling as if you are

offering to the Lord. Your feeling is definitely better than the

feeling of an atheist. But what I say is that by such feelings you

have attained peace, satisfaction and happiness in your mind. Please

do not ask anything from the Lord because your sacrifice is not a

real practical sacrifice. It is only the sacrifice of your words and

feelings. This is not wrong as far as you don't ask for any fruit

for such actions. Once you ask the fruit from the Lord for such

sacrifice of words and feelings, all those rituals become fooling

the Lord. I am not against the rituals but I am against you if you

say that you have practically sacrificed to the Lord through those

rituals and if you ask for some real fruit from the Lord. By all

these things you have obtained peace and happiness in your heart.

Very good! Be satisfied with that fruit. Don't boast that you have

sacrificed something to the Lord and therefore don't expect any

fruit from the Lord. If you say that you have sacrificed to the Lord

by these rituals, which are only sacrifice of words and feelings,

you are the biggest actor and all your rituals are the dramatic

actions.

 

If you want to sacrifice really to the Lord, search for the human

form of the Lord, with the help of Veda and do any little sacrifice,

what ever you can. In such sacrifice if you aspire anything in

return, you will get the fruit, which is just equal to your

sacrifice. If you sacrifice one rupee, He will give you one

chocolate. If you sacrifice two rupees, He will give you two

chocolates. Let the business be justified. Don't expect ten

chocolates for one rupee. But if you are not aspiring any fruit for

your sacrifice, which is the real love similar to the real love

shown to your children, then the Lord will give you infinite real

fruit in a proper place at the appropriate time. Since you are not

aspiring for the fruit, you leave the right place and right time to

the decision of the Lord.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

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vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Surya ji,

> Worship is to glorify.Do it before an idol or otherwise.The

words of praise and glory of God.Let's first accept God and then opt

or otherwise to worship.Problem lies in our minds

> krishnan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Divine Message by His Holiness Sri Datta Swami

 

I am the knowledge, love and bliss

Vedas call Me Parabrahman

Knowledge, love and bliss concentrated

Multiplied by infinity is Myself.

My power is called Maya,

Which is inexplicable for you

I keep this secret of Maya with Me only

Otherwise, human beings will catch My hair

 

To keep the soul always at My feet

I do not disclose the secret of Maya

By this, the soul always surrenders to Me

Otherwise, he will claim himself as the Lord.

Through Maya only I created this world

I enjoy by seeing this everlasting cinema

For enjoyment I created ignorance

Which covers Me and I forget Myself

 

I am not sleeping and not caught by dream

I am dreaming in the day opening My eyes

The ignorance is at My will to stay or not

Unlike the ignorance of a night dreamer

My awareness is not your awareness

If it is so, when you weep I should weep

All should also weep at the same time

Your awareness is negligible part of Mine.

 

All the souls put together along with this world

Form a pinhead drop in Me, almost nil

I am the mightiest ocean of knowledge, love and bliss

Which are the characteristics of consciousness

Even all the souls weep together at a time

I cannot be touched, all those being negligible

Awareness of awareness is consciousness, no doubt

You are seeing only the qualitative similarity

 

Drop and ocean are qualitatively water, may be

Can the drop become the ocean by this equality?

Water is Brahman but ocean is Eswara

You are already Brahman but not Eswara

Sankara touched this qualitative aspect only

To attract Bhuddists who were atheists then,

He told "Oh drop! You are already water"

But the drop thought that is was ocean

 

Bhuddist was fooled like this by Sankara

He has to accept his existence and If He is Brahman

Qualitative realization was brought like this

That is the beginning stage, which should be so

Slowly when he analyzes the qualitative aspect

And goes into quantitative angle, truth is seen

He realizes that He is only water and not ocean

Then he surrenders to ocean to become devotee

 

Knowledge by analysis leads to devotion

Devotion needs the ocean to be present before eyes

For this purpose the ocean enters a human body drop

Through His power of Maya, called human incarnation.

"Anoraneeyan mahato maheeyan" Veda says so

This means that the ocean has entered the drop

In the same time it is ocean and also the drop

That is the human incarnation, which is God and man.

 

This human incarnation is called Parabrahman

Which is greater than Brahman, soul, and Eswara

Brahman is water, Eswara is ocean and drop is soul

All these are quite logical terms to grasp.

Parabrahman is greater than all these

The word "Para" means "greater" actually

It is greater than the drop, ocean and water

Since it is the ocean hiding in a drop by Maya

 

You can not face Eswara directly at any cost

By that force, you will disappear along with this world

You can face Parabrahman, which is the ocean

That speaks with you hidden in a drop like you

As the ocean is hidden in the drop by Maya

The ocean can enter you also by the same Maya

But the ocean independently can not hear you

The voice of the drop is no where in the voice of ocean

 

Therefore, approach Parabrahman and serve Him,

As a servant without aspiring anything from Him

If He wishes, you can get the samadhi

In which the Ocean enters you as a shadow.

Sankara never told that you are Eswara

He told that you are only Brahman

Awareness of a drop-like awareness is useless

Awareness of an ocean-like awareness is greatest

 

You can not achieve this samadhi by your effort

Your effort is not heard by the roaring ocean

The ocean comes down to hear you in this way

If you do not use this opportunity, you are lost

When the king comes to hear the public

Your are keeping silent staying in your home

When the king is busy in a battlefield

You go there and submit your complaint!

 

This is the state of Advita philosopher

He is the foolish disciple of Sankara

Egoism and jealousy cover his eyes

He can not see the ocean in a drop

But he, a drop, wants to contain the ocean

How can the ocean enter him who is a drop?

He discards the technique and the example

How can he become the example by the same technique?

 

Therefore, follow Satguru who is the ocean in a drop

If you follow another drop what is the use?

You are a rabbit and If you see the Lion

You will vanish on the spot with fear.

Therefore, the Lion came as a rabbit

Remember, the Lion is covered by the skin of rabbit

It is not at all a rabbit, it speaks "I am Lion"

You rabbit! Don't imitate that rabbit like Lion.

 

Recognize and serve that rabbit like Lion with love

Because it looks like a rabbit, it is your friend only

There is no need of fear since the Lion is not exposed

It behaves like a rabbit in all its activities.

A human incarnation also behaves like a man

With all the qualities of nature only

This will generate love and nearness in your heart

For you to approach and love, this technique is adopted.

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

posted by: surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

kumar kumar <kumar07306 wrote:

> that's ok mr surya can u please offer vedic offerings on my behalf

so that with ur help i get some fruit are fruits i will be blessed

thank you for doing so in advance raj k