Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 dear friend gopu it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a remote corner of the country where no government organisation nor any NGO is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees allocation for their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like Tatas and Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and hospital in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people living in the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical treatment in return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i find absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is fed, clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the praise of the god, there is no harm. only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have started setting up some relief centres and development works for the neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners of the country. my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav seva" as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name (another religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's connection with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive in nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india would become the most holiest place for all christians across the globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, for i dont have documentary support. with best wishes and regards arjun , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear contributors, > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > christianity and also some mails talk about the > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > share my views. conversion to christianity was > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > to God of that particular religion. After converting > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > of all these extreme approach still we have > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > tolerance towards other religion. > > with good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 -there is a book about Jesus in Kashmir. its a paperback. br asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend gopu > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a remote > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any NGO > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees allocation for > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like Tatas and > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and hospital > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people living in > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical treatment in > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i find > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is fed, > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have > started setting up some relief centres and development works for the > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners of the > country. > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav seva" > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name (another > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's connection > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive in > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india > would become the most holiest place for all christians across the > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, for > i dont have documentary support. > > with best wishes and regards > arjun > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > dear contributors, > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > with good wishes, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Dear Asha, Arjun ji these cook and bull stories exist in all regions so no use counting on it. I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were told stories how in Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 yrs. there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects each one is told such story that christ walked somewhere there so each feels unique and none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have any contact, as u r aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to ask for seperation or Indipendence from India even before 1947. Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority comes form same source. thery were initially told they are dravidian race and aryans invaded and chased them down. and part of East India company job was to DESTROY SANSKRIIT, HINDUISM IN 100 yrs they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case where in schools we are taught why use Jalam for water snanam fior bath use local words even this election (May 06) u can hear that karunadni's family still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi both sanskrit all his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran all have sanskrit names. u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. currtsy church as tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way back in 1640's like i said other day how africa is affected by civil war and poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is not ruled out esp with david Huttington's clash of civilisation projection and the DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round the corner. ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance of otehr faith even if they are hlping poor in food, water, education in the long frun is trouble like the political parties. we need strong faiths and respect for each irrespective of faith people can change in freewill not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is the case. these people later willsell anyting for money. even national interests. ASHA <asha wrote: -there is a book about Jesus in Kashmir. its a paperback. br asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend gopu > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a remote > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any NGO > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees allocation for > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like Tatas and > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and hospital > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people living in > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical treatment in > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i find > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is fed, > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have > started setting up some relief centres and development works for the > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners of the > country. > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav seva" > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name (another > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's connection > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive in > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india > would become the most holiest place for all christians across the > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, for > i dont have documentary support. > > with best wishes and regards > arjun > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > dear contributors, > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > with good wishes, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Vedic astrology software Visit your group "" on the web. Prashant Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 -Prashant Kumarji, Probably you are right. But when there is nothing and nobody you will probably not mind praying to any God. I am a devout Hindu. But when I needed shelter with my little daughter-all Hindu charitable(so called) trusts refused shelter- because I was a married woman in their eyes-regardless I was on street. But a church and a muslim dargah managed to give me shelter.fed us with what was possible. I am a Brahmin-what use was that? May be some of you have not experienced being on streets literally. I have been there.Noone helped at all.I needed help to start working, again it was a Christian Organization which put me on my feet. They paid me 2500.00 for the artwork, but that was first real money I saw. Pls dont mind my saying this. If its hurt anyone s feelings I am sorry. regards asha -- In , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > these cook and bull stories exist in all regions so no use counting on it. > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were told stories how in Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 yrs. > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects each one is told such story that christ walked somewhere there so each feels unique and none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have any contact, as u r aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to ask for seperation or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority comes form same source. thery were initially told they are dravidian race and aryans invaded and chased them down. > > and part of East India company job was to DESTROY SANSKRIIT, HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam for water snanam fior bath use local words > even this election (May 06) u can hear that karunadni's family still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi both sanskrit all his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran all have sanskrit names. > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. currtsy church as tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way back in 1640's > > like i said other day how africa is affected by civil war and poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is not ruled out esp with david Huttington's clash of civilisation projection and the DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round the corner. > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance of otehr faith even if they are hlping poor in food, water, education in the long frun is trouble like the political parties. we need strong faiths and respect for each irrespective of faith people can change in freewill not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is the case. these people later willsell anyting for money. even national interests. > > > > > > ASHA <asha wrote: -there is a book about Jesus in Kashmir. its a paperback. > br > asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a > remote > > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any NGO > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees allocation > for > > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have > > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like Tatas > and > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and > hospital > > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people living > in > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical treatment > in > > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i find > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is > fed, > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have > > started setting up some relief centres and development works for > the > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners of > the > > country. > > > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of > > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav > seva" > > > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not > > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name (another > > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's connection > > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive in > > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india > > would become the most holiest place for all christians across the > > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, > for > > i dont have documentary support. > > > > with best wishes and regards > > arjun > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear contributors, > > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Prashantji, Knowing Sanskrit does not make one a Hindu, nordoes praying to Jesus make one christian. We have witnessed that organised religion has been used as a tool of capturing and sustaining power in many a religions. However, since it is not a forum for discussing politics and religion, I stop here. regards rishi , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > these cook and bull stories exist in all regions so no use counting on it. > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were told stories how in Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 yrs. > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects each one is told such story that christ walked somewhere there so each feels unique and none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have any contact, as u r aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to ask for seperation or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority comes form same source. thery were initially told they are dravidian race and aryans invaded and chased them down. > > and part of East India company job was to DESTROY SANSKRIIT, HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam for water snanam fior bath use local words > even this election (May 06) u can hear that karunadni's family still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi both sanskrit all his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran all have sanskrit names. > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. currtsy church as tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way back in 1640's > > like i said other day how africa is affected by civil war and poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is not ruled out esp with david Huttington's clash of civilisation projection and the DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round the corner. > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance of otehr faith even if they are hlping poor in food, water, education in the long frun is trouble like the political parties. we need strong faiths and respect for each irrespective of faith people can change in freewill not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is the case. these people later willsell anyting for money. even national interests. > > > > > > ASHA <asha wrote: -there is a book about Jesus in Kashmir. its a paperback. > br > asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a > remote > > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any NGO > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees allocation > for > > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have > > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like Tatas > and > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and > hospital > > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people living > in > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical treatment > in > > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i find > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is > fed, > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have > > started setting up some relief centres and development works for > the > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners of > the > > country. > > > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of > > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav > seva" > > > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not > > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name (another > > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's connection > > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive in > > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india > > would become the most holiest place for all christians across the > > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, > for > > i dont have documentary support. > > > > with best wishes and regards > > arjun > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear contributors, > > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Vedic astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 {Om Namo Narayanaya} Rishiji, What is a religion any way? A superficial mantle of our haphazard beliefs, some imposed at an impressionable age, some our own misinfromed impressions, some relevant some not.Some we cannot shirk off, some we dont want to. But ultimately is has nothing to do with the core of the inner being, it is untainted by any thing but filled with the knowledge of itself and ours for the asking, if we care to do so. So, why bother about religion, sanskrit, jesus, namaz, the best of every religion is God. Regards {Om namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} --- In , "rishi_2000in" <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Prashantji, > Knowing Sanskrit does not make one a Hindu, nordoes praying to Jesus > make one christian. We have witnessed that organised religion has > been used as a tool of capturing and sustaining power in many a > religions. > However, since it is not a forum for discussing politics and > religion, I stop here. > regards > rishi > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > > > these cook and bull stories exist in all regions so no use > counting on it. > > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were told stories how in > Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 yrs. > > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects each one is told such > story that christ walked somewhere there so each feels unique and > none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have any contact, as u r > aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to ask for seperation > or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority comes form same > source. thery were initially told they are dravidian race and aryans > invaded and chased them down. > > > > and part of East India company job was to DESTROY SANSKRIIT, > HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam for water snanam > fior bath use local words > > even this election (May 06) u can hear that karunadni's family > still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi both sanskrit all > his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran all have sanskrit > names. > > > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. currtsy church as > tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way back in 1640's > > > > like i said other day how africa is affected by civil war and > poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is not ruled out esp > with david Huttington's clash of civilisation projection and the > DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round the corner. > > > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance of otehr faith even > if they are hlping poor in food, water, education in the long frun > is trouble like the political parties. we need strong faiths and > respect for each irrespective of faith people can change in freewill > not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is the case. these > people later willsell anyting for money. even national interests. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA <asha@> wrote: -there is a book about Jesus in > Kashmir. its a paperback. > > br > > asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > > > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a > > remote > > > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any > NGO > > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > > > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees > allocation > > for > > > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion have > > > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like > Tatas > > and > > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and > > hospital > > > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people > living > > in > > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > > > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, > > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical > treatment > > in > > > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i > find > > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person is > > fed, > > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing the > > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and have > > > started setting up some relief centres and development works > for > > the > > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners > of > > the > > > country. > > > > > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because of > > > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav > > seva" > > > > > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > > > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could not > > > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name > (another > > > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > > > > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's > connection > > > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive > in > > > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and india > > > would become the most holiest place for all christians across > the > > > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and kashmir, > > for > > > i dont have documentary support. > > > > > > with best wishes and regards > > > arjun > > > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear contributors, > > > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Absolutely, Naliniji,I agree. "Give me strength to fight my greatest enemy, Not my brother but myself, Make me always ready to come to you, with clean hands and straight eyes, so when life fades as the fading sunset, my spirit may come to you without shame" regards rishi --- auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: > {Om Namo Narayanaya} > Rishiji, > What is a religion any way? A superficial mantle of > our haphazard > beliefs, some imposed at an impressionable age, some > our own > misinfromed impressions, some relevant some not.Some > we cannot shirk > off, some we dont want to. But ultimately is has > nothing to do with > the core of the inner being, it is untainted by any > thing but filled > with the knowledge of itself and ours for the > asking, if we care to > do so. So, why bother about religion, sanskrit, > jesus, namaz, the > best of every religion is God. > Regards > {Om namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} --- In > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in > wrote: > > > > Prashantji, > > Knowing Sanskrit does not make one a Hindu, > nordoes praying to > Jesus > > make one christian. We have witnessed that > organised religion has > > been used as a tool of capturing and sustaining > power in many a > > religions. > > However, since it is not a forum for discussing > politics and > > religion, I stop here. > > regards > > rishi > > > > > > > > , Prashant > Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > > > > > these cook and bull stories exist in all > regions so no use > > counting on it. > > > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were > told stories how > in > > Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 > yrs. > > > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects > each one is told > such > > story that christ walked somewhere there so each > feels unique > and > > none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have > any contact, as u > r > > aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to > ask for > seperation > > or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > > > > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority > comes form same > > source. thery were initially told they are > dravidian race and > aryans > > invaded and chased them down. > > > > > > and part of East India company job was to > DESTROY SANSKRIIT, > > HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > > > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > > > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam > for water snanam > > fior bath use local words > > > even this election (May 06) u can hear that > karunadni's family > > still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi > both sanskrit all > > his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran > all have > sanskrit > > names. > > > > > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. > currtsy church as > > tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way > back in 1640's > > > > > > like i said other day how africa is affected > by civil war and > > poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is > not ruled out esp > > with david Huttington's clash of civilisation > projection and the > > DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round > the corner. > > > > > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance > of otehr faith > even > > if they are hlping poor in food, water, education > in the long > frun > > is trouble like the political parties. we need > strong faiths and > > respect for each irrespective of faith people can > change in > freewill > > not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is > the case. these > > people later willsell anyting for money. even > national interests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA <asha@> wrote: -there is a book > about Jesus in > > Kashmir. its a paperback. > > > br > > > asha-- In , > "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > > > > > it is my personal observation that i > appreciated the way > > > > christianity was expanded. imagine a > neglected interior in > a > > > remote > > > > corner of the country where no government > organisation nor > any > > NGO > > > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are > hundred and one > > > > government schemes on the paper with crores > of rupees > > allocation > > > for > > > > their development. the torchbearers of the > hindu religion > have > > > > forgotten the plights of them and the > philanthrophers like > > Tatas > > > and > > > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees > worth temples and > > > hospital > > > > in urban areas. who is there to help the > neglected people > > living > > > in > > > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at > this juncture > where > > > > christian missionaries have been setting up > SCHOOLS, > HOSPITALS, > > > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education > and medical > > treatment > > > in > > > > return for singing the praise of their lord > jesus christ. i > > find > > > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a > starving dying person > is > > > fed, > > > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in > return asked to sing > the > > > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to > this fact and > have > > > > started setting up some relief centres and > development works > > for > > > the > > > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and > remotest > corners > > of > > > the > > > > country. > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 {Om Namo Narayanaya} Rishiji, How wonderful. God Bless You. Regards Nalini {Om Namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Absolutely, Naliniji,I agree. > "Give me strength to fight my greatest enemy, > Not my brother but myself, > Make me always ready to come to you, > with clean hands and straight eyes, > so when life fades as the fading sunset, > my spirit may come to you without shame" > regards > rishi > > --- auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: > > > {Om Namo Narayanaya} > > Rishiji, > > What is a religion any way? A superficial mantle of > > our haphazard > > beliefs, some imposed at an impressionable age, some > > our own > > misinfromed impressions, some relevant some not.Some > > we cannot shirk > > off, some we dont want to. But ultimately is has > > nothing to do with > > the core of the inner being, it is untainted by any > > thing but filled > > with the knowledge of itself and ours for the > > asking, if we care to > > do so. So, why bother about religion, sanskrit, > > jesus, namaz, the > > best of every religion is God. > > Regards > > {Om namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} --- In > > , "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Prashantji, > > > Knowing Sanskrit does not make one a Hindu, > > nordoes praying to > > Jesus > > > make one christian. We have witnessed that > > organised religion has > > > been used as a tool of capturing and sustaining > > power in many a > > > religions. > > > However, since it is not a forum for discussing > > politics and > > > religion, I stop here. > > > regards > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant > > Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > > > > > > > these cook and bull stories exist in all > > regions so no use > > > counting on it. > > > > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were > > told stories how > > in > > > Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 > > yrs. > > > > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects > > each one is told > > such > > > story that christ walked somewhere there so each > > feels unique > > and > > > none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have > > any contact, as u > > r > > > aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to > > ask for > > seperation > > > or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > > > > > > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority > > comes form same > > > source. thery were initially told they are > > dravidian race and > > aryans > > > invaded and chased them down. > > > > > > > > and part of East India company job was to > > DESTROY SANSKRIIT, > > > HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > > > > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > > > > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam > > for water snanam > > > fior bath use local words > > > > even this election (May 06) u can hear that > > karunadni's family > > > still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi > > both sanskrit all > > > his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran > > all have > > sanskrit > > > names. > > > > > > > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. > > currtsy church as > > > tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way > > back in 1640's > > > > > > > > like i said other day how africa is affected > > by civil war and > > > poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is > > not ruled out esp > > > with david Huttington's clash of civilisation > > projection and the > > > DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round > > the corner. > > > > > > > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance > > of otehr faith > > even > > > if they are hlping poor in food, water, education > > in the long > > frun > > > is trouble like the political parties. we need > > strong faiths and > > > respect for each irrespective of faith people can > > change in > > freewill > > > not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is > > the case. these > > > people later willsell anyting for money. even > > national interests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA <asha@> wrote: -there is a book > > about Jesus in > > > Kashmir. its a paperback. > > > > br > > > > asha-- In , > > "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > > > > > > > it is my personal observation that i > > appreciated the way > > > > > christianity was expanded. imagine a > > neglected interior in > > a > > > > remote > > > > > corner of the country where no government > > organisation nor > > any > > > NGO > > > > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are > > hundred and one > > > > > government schemes on the paper with crores > > of rupees > > > allocation > > > > for > > > > > their development. the torchbearers of the > > hindu religion > > have > > > > > forgotten the plights of them and the > > philanthrophers like > > > Tatas > > > > and > > > > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees > > worth temples and > > > > hospital > > > > > in urban areas. who is there to help the > > neglected people > > > living > > > > in > > > > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at > > this juncture > > where > > > > > christian missionaries have been setting up > > SCHOOLS, > > HOSPITALS, > > > > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education > > and medical > > > treatment > > > > in > > > > > return for singing the praise of their lord > > jesus christ. i > > > find > > > > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a > > starving dying person > > is > > > > fed, > > > > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in > > return asked to sing > > the > > > > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > > > > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to > > this fact and > > have > > > > > started setting up some relief centres and > > development works > > > for > > > > the > > > > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and > > remotest > > corners > > > of > > > > the > > > > > country. > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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