Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Asha ji, Once I was in communication with someone who was adopted very young and did not know what religion or background he came from and by the time he learned that it was too late. That person had no clue that though brought up in a 'hindu' - rationalistic background (not quite atheistic, mind you!)there was no sense of alliance to a particular religion, I mean he could have been any of the many religions, biologically! Leaving aside the very few mahapurushas and trikalagnas amongst us, most of us are really in that very same boat! We do not know how long we have been hindus, muslims or whatever other religion the earth supports. One, five, fifty lifetimes? And is it something we know and remember or just wishful thinking based on some writing or something else? At least you are blessed to have actually experienced the truths of a couple of prevailing religions and hence have DIRECT experience to speak from! Rejoice in your being provided these experiences. And do not be discouraged that you may never be able to transfer that direct experience to another individual! Yours is to "tell" as it is, and not to 'make it happen'! RR , "ASHA" <asha wrote: > > -Prashant Kumarji, Probably you are right. > But when there is nothing and nobody you will probably not mind > praying to any God. > I am a devout Hindu. But when I needed shelter with my little > daughter-all Hindu charitable(so called) trusts refused shelter- > because I was a married woman in their eyes-regardless I was on > street. But a church and a muslim dargah managed to give me > shelter.fed us with what was possible. > > I am a Brahmin-what use was that? May be some of you have not > experienced being on streets literally. I have been there.Noone > helped at all.I needed help to start working, again it was a > Christian Organization which put me on my feet. They paid me 2500.00 > for the artwork, but that was first real money I saw. > > Pls dont mind my saying this. If its hurt anyone s feelings I am > sorry. > regards > asha > > > > -- In , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Asha, Arjun ji > > > > these cook and bull stories exist in all regions so no use > counting on it. > > I stuied in St Joseph's Bangalore where were told stories how in > Nagaland they spread the light of the church in 6 yrs. > > there are 48 hills in nagaland 48 dialects each one is told such > story that christ walked somewhere there so each feels unique and > none of the 48 see eye to eye or marriy or have any contact, as u r > aware the Nagas r 100% christian and were 1st to ask for seperation > or Indipendence from India even before 1947. > > > > Tamil Nadu's so called air of superiority comes form same > source. thery were initially told they are dravidian race and > aryans invaded and chased them down. > > > > and part of East India company job was to DESTROY SANSKRIIT, > HINDUISM IN 100 yrs > > they have destroyed sanskirt like in TN case > > where in schools we are taught why use Jalam for water snanam > fior bath use local words > > even this election (May 06) u can hear that karunadni's family > still uses Northern names like Karuna and Nidhi both sanskrit all > his famly son, son-in-law nephews Dayanidi maaran all have sanskrit > names. > > > > u will find tamil totally de-sanskritised. currtsy church as > tamil had the 1st bible in Indian languages way back in 1640's > > > > like i said other day how africa is affected by civil war and > poverty Asia and India being a sub continent is not ruled out esp > with david Huttington's clash of civilisation projection and the > DANISH CARTOON CONTROVERSY HAS Proved it is round the corner. > > > > ANY RELIOGION THAT preaches hate, intolerance of otehr faith > even if they are hlping poor in food, water, education in the long > frun is trouble like the political parties. we need strong faiths > and respect for each irrespective of faith people can change in > freewill not bought at 30k per conversion as in AP ,TN is the case. > these people later willsell anyting for money. even national > interests. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA <asha@> wrote: -there is a book about Jesus in > Kashmir. its a paperback. > > br > > asha-- In , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend gopu > > > > > > it is my personal observation that i appreciated the way > > > christianity was expanded. imagine a neglected interior in a > > remote > > > corner of the country where no government organisation nor any > NGO > > > is daring to go. for rules sake, there are hundred and one > > > government schemes on the paper with crores of rupees > allocation > > for > > > their development. the torchbearers of the hindu religion > have > > > forgotten the plights of them and the philanthrophers like > Tatas > > and > > > Birlas also construct billions of rupees worth temples and > > hospital > > > in urban areas. who is there to help the neglected people > living > > in > > > the jungles and remote villages. it is at this juncture where > > > christian missionaries have been setting up SCHOOLS, > HOSPITALS, > > > CHURCHES and gave free clothing, education and medical > treatment > > in > > > return for singing the praise of their lord jesus christ. i > find > > > absolutely no wrong in doing so. if a starving dying person > is > > fed, > > > clotheed, sheltered and treated and in return asked to sing > the > > > praise of the god, there is no harm. > > > > > > only recenlty hindu organisations woke up to this fact and > have > > > started setting up some relief centres and development works > for > > the > > > neglected people in jungles, hilly areas and remotest corners > of > > the > > > country. > > > > > > my appreciation of the service of christians is only because > of > > > their practicing "karma marga" emulating "manav seva = madhav > > seva" > > > > > > as you also pointed out, poverty is the rootcause of all > > > conversions. if the god with one name (one religion) could > not > > > alleviate his poverty and the same god with another name > (another > > > religion) removes the poverty, what is the harm. > > > > > > by the way, very few people are aware of jesus christ's > connection > > > with kashmir and india and most of the real story is sensitive > in > > > nature. yes, if this hidden truth comes out, kashmir and > india > > > would become the most holiest place for all christians across > the > > > globe. i cannot share what all i knew about jesus and > kashmir, > > for > > > i dont have documentary support. > > > > > > with best wishes and regards > > > arjun > > > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear contributors, > > > > while we are finding out the fanatic approach of the > > > > christianity and also some mails talk about the > > > > violent approach of Islam, at this juncture I wish to > > > > share my views. conversion to christianity was > > > > basically because of poverty and not of true devotion > > > > to God of that particular religion. After converting > > > > themselves they are indoctrinated to do as per the > > > > sermons given by the pastor or mullah's. but in spite > > > > of all these extreme approach still we have > > > > individuals whom we should acknowledge as good souls. > > > > For eg the promoter of this web site is a Muslim from > > > > Bangla desh, he has developed faith in our religion > > > > and he is doing a yeoman service. President abdul > > > > kalam is quite conversant with Hindu scriptures. late > > > > Ismail ( High court Judge) was well versed with > > > > Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Unfortunately the numbers > > > > in other religions are few to accept or have faith and > > > > tolerance towards other religion. > > > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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