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Dear Rishi

 

As the statement given for this new ayanamsha, is it that Lahiri, Raman KP

Fagan Deva Dutta....all are being blamed??

is it that so far all readings on this forum were based on miscalculations and

need redoing?

 

It shall be nice of you if you had tried this new avtar of Ayanamsha with JH

7.0.

and guide me on the settings to be done in the options.

I have been using JH for long and could not decipher on using this new

Ayanamsha..

 

I do not have Goravani and thus can't appreciate the facts as claimed.

 

regards

Rps

 

-

rishi shukla

Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:22 PM

Re: wrong Horoscopes / Wrong Astrology

 

 

Thanks, do consider though that different softwares

give different results when you calculate in terms of

degrees, minutes and seconds. The programmed values

are displayed.

I am sure you will do well if you find that results

are consistent but.......the ayanamsha needs a more

structured logic then just coincidences. You have put

up an interesting viewpoint and one could also be that

January 3/4 is the perihelion date. Shall be glad to

know of the process by which you reached the date of

the beginning of your ayanamsha besides the fact that

the data tallies in a particular software.

regards

rishi

 

--- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun wrote:

 

> I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation

> of charts

> www.goravani.com

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in

> wrote:

> >

> > Tarunji,

> > Thanks for your response. There are two issues

> here,

> > 1) That you are getting consistent results in

> > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your

> > personal experience and good for you.

> > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1

> Jan,

> > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on

> > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a

> > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value

> of

> > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha.

> > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and

> > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using

> decimal

> > places or are you using a particular software for

> it.

> > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular

> date

> > if a particular software displays a perfect match.

> > Would like to know more of these points,thanks

> >

> > regards

> > rishi

> >

> > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun

> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Rishi

> > >

> > > ok consider the today's date as the starting

> point

> > > so the two zodiacs are

> > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate

> any

> > > chart of century say date

> > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the

> ayanamsha

> > > value 00-00-00 which is

> > > same as tropical one, so there will be no

> difference

> > > between tropical or

> > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a

> long

> > > back when the two zodiacs

> > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285

> check

> > > at that time does both

> > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in

> planetary

> > > position check with all

> > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you

> will

> > > not find the similar

> > > planetary position. Now if you try with my

> ayanamsha

> > > you will find exact not

> > > even a second difference.

> > >

> > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts

> from

> > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha

> > > and when you get any event check what dasha is

> going

> > > on at that time. You

> > > will find that on that day only the dasha has

> > > changed there will be so

> > > perfect that event hour will also match now this

> > > never happens with any

> > > other ayanamsha.

> > >

> > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you

> will

> > > find that Tarun Chopra

> > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the

> events

> > > and if you study the

> > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect

> from

> > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha

> > >

> > > and you know lots of people who are good at

> > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha

> > > and they are getting perfect results which they

> did

> > > not got from any other

> > > ayanamsha.

> > >

> > > With regards

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > > www.occultwizard.com

> > >

> > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope

> > > divinelight/

> > >

> > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla

> <rishi_2000in

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Tarunji,

> > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your

> > > ayanamsha

> > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on

> yuor

> > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding

> point

> > > of

> > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the

> > > same.

> > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1,

> > > 1100 or

> > > > whatever date you have suggested.

> > > > regards

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Tarun Chopra

> <occultwizard.tarun

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac

> and

> > > > > sidereal zodiac basic

> > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is

> not

> > > > > correct then the Horoscope

> > > > > is also not correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to

> calculate

> > > the

> > > > > horoscopes? To get the

> > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results

> > > from

> > > > > Astrology, you are welcome

> > > > > to join this Group of Astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > www.occultwizard.com

> > > > >

> > > > > If you are not interested in joining the

> group

> > > just

> > > > > ignore this invitation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes Rishi

> > > > > > You are correct.

> > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is

> > > compatible

> > > > > to different S/W today

> > > > > > available.

> > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost

> all

> > > > > including JH, Kundli...

> > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different

> Ayanamsha

> > > and

> > > > > these results are quite

> > > > > > close to each other.

> > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if

> the

> > > same

> > > > > does not fit into.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Rps

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > rishi_2000in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM

> > > > > > Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi

> > > charts

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pratap,

> > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue

> > > amongst

> > > > > most learned of the

> > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha

> named

> > > as

> > > > > Chitrapaksha or

> > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was

> > > approved

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Friend,

The ayanamsha introduced by shri Chopra is his own and

experimental , please do not get confused.

The Lahiri ayanamsha is common accepted and used by

all jyotishis. Secondly, Raman ayanamsha is also used

by many.

As far as learning Jyotisha is considered you can

safely use the Lahiri ayanamsha without getting

involved in controversies.

regards

rishi

 

--- jyotish <jyotish.bh wrote:

 

> Dear Rishi

>

> As the statement given for this new ayanamsha, is

> it that Lahiri, Raman KP Fagan Deva Dutta....all are

> being blamed??

> is it that so far all readings on this forum were

> based on miscalculations and need redoing?

>

> It shall be nice of you if you had tried this new

> avtar of Ayanamsha with JH 7.0.

> and guide me on the settings to be done in the

> options.

> I have been using JH for long and could not

> decipher on using this new Ayanamsha..

>

> I do not have Goravani and thus can't appreciate

> the facts as claimed.

>

> regards

> Rps

>

> -

> rishi shukla

>

> Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:22 PM

> Re: wrong Horoscopes / Wrong

> Astrology

>

>

> Thanks, do consider though that different

> softwares

> give different results when you calculate in terms

> of

> degrees, minutes and seconds. The programmed

> values

> are displayed.

> I am sure you will do well if you find that

> results

> are consistent but.......the ayanamsha needs a

> more

> structured logic then just coincidences. You have

> put

> up an interesting viewpoint and one could also be

> that

> January 3/4 is the perihelion date. Shall be glad

> to

> know of the process by which you reached the date

> of

> the beginning of your ayanamsha besides the fact

> that

> the data tallies in a particular software.

> regards

> rishi

>

> --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun

> wrote:

>

> > I use Goravani astrology software for

> calculatation

> > of charts

> > www.goravani.com

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla

> <rishi_2000in

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Tarunji,

> > > Thanks for your response. There are two issues

> > here,

> > > 1) That you are getting consistent results in

> > > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states

> your

> > > personal experience and good for you.

> > > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date

> 1

> > Jan,

> > > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based

> on

> > > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming

> a

> > > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a

> value

> > of

> > > 50.279 seconds since the inception of

> ayanamsha.

> > > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and

> > > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using

> > decimal

> > > places or are you using a particular software

> for

> > it.

> > > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a

> particular

> > date

> > > if a particular software displays a perfect

> match.

> > > Would like to know more of these points,thanks

> > >

> > > regards

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > --- Tarun Chopra

> <occultwizard.tarun

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Rishi

> > > >

> > > > ok consider the today's date as the starting

> > point

> > > > so the two zodiacs are

> > > > similar today if we assume this. Now

> calculate

> > any

> > > > chart of century say date

> > > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the

> > ayanamsha

> > > > value 00-00-00 which is

> > > > same as tropical one, so there will be no

> > difference

> > > > between tropical or

> > > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year

> a

> > long

> > > > back when the two zodiacs

> > > > were similar, lahiri gave the date

> 22/03/0285

> > check

> > > > at that time does both

> > > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in

> > planetary

> > > > position check with all

> > > > others ayanamsha with their starting date

> you

> > will

> > > > not find the similar

> > > > planetary position. Now if you try with my

> > ayanamsha

> > > > you will find exact not

> > > > even a second difference.

> > > >

> > > > Ok do it differently now calculate the

> charts

> > from

> > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha

> > > > and when you get any event check what dasha

> is

> > going

> > > > on at that time. You

> > > > will find that on that day only the dasha

> has

> > > > changed there will be so

> > > > perfect that event hour will also match now

> this

> > > > never happens with any

> > > > other ayanamsha.

> > > >

> > > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it

> you

> > will

> > > > find that Tarun Chopra

> > > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the

> > events

> > > > and if you study the

> > > > horoscopes you will find the life will

> reflect

> > from

> > > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha

> > > >

> > > > and you know lots of people who are good at

> > > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha

> > > > and they are getting perfect results which

> they

> > did

> > > > not got from any other

> > > > ayanamsha.

> > > >

> > > > With regards

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > www.occultwizard.com

> > > >

> > > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope

> > > > divinelight/

> > > >

> > > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla

> > <rishi_2000in

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarunji,

> > > > > It shall be interesting to know why is

> your

> > > > ayanamsha

> > > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages

> on

> > yuor

> > > > > site, you basically say that the

> coinciding

> > point

> > > > of

>

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