Vedic/Greek Astrology Controversey

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Namasthe.

 

Opinion of 18th century European writers was that astronomy

to India came from the Greeks. Hence VA likewise. Zodiac, 12

months, 7 week days and their names, etc. were quoted as

"proofs". Jyotisha's nakshatra business was dismissed as

something primitive. It is now clear they or the Greeks

never understood it. Outside the Jyotisha and the modern

astronomers, this is still the case.

 

All celestial motions and time keeping in Jyotisha are with

reference to the nakshatra divisions, and everything else

gets derived from this. This is unique to VA. Greeks could

not digest this, and settled to seasons for time keeping.

 

Jyotisha's calendar methods are rooted in the Vedas. 12

months reflect the 12 aadityas. Zodiac names also originated

in Samskr`tam in Vedas. Names of the 7 days are Vedic names;

their sequence is according to the hora-s. (Here again, word

"hora" is not from Greek, but from Samskr`ta "ahoraatra",

i.e, it is a part of the day-night cycle.)

 

In some very ancient past (~ 10-12,000 BC), Vedic yajna-

centered society used muhoorta (= 1/30th of day-night

cyclce), kalaa (= 1/30th of muhoorta), kaashtaa (= 1/30th of

a kalaa), and 28 nakshatra divisions for time measuring.

Chaturyuga and 14 manvantara periods are based on these 28

celestial divisions. "Muhoorta" is used even today, albeit

in deciding samskaara timings only. MahaanaaraayaNa

Upanishad and Manu Samhita mention these. This scheme

appears to revolve around Moon's position wrt the 28

nakshatra divisions. Yet, this is NOT lunar calendar.

 

Later as pooja worship evolved and PuraaNas became popular

(yet before Veda Vyaasa, ie, before 5,000 years ago), rising

raashi durations were measured in hora units, with 24 horas.

And the nakshatra divisions became 27. Both these ease the

arithmatic. This scheme appears to revolve around Sun's

position wrt the 27 nakshatra divisions. Yet, this is NOT

solar calendar. Greek scholars picked and plagerized some of

this, and laid the groundwork for the Western Astrology and

the so-called solar calendar. Hence their primitivity.

 

Probably Varaahamihira and Arya Bhatta synthesized these two

methods, and polularized the current "panchaangam" method.

 

Max Muller recognized and was horrified at this Vedic origin

of Greek science and arts, and hence he spent his lifetime

to establish that a) Vedas were 1500 BC "compositions" of

barbaric Aryan tribes' priests, and all other important

Hindu texts were of much later times, b) there is nothing

scientific in any of them, and c) Vedic Samskr`tam is

archaic and very very difficult (so that future scholars

would use his distorted translations only).

 

All these were plain lies to fit the then colonial agenda.

"Aryan Invasion Theory", the non-existant "proto-Indo-

European mother language", etc. were invented within the

four walls of Asiatic Society in London, and these lies were

repeatedly asserted as the only truth aided by such imagined

"theories". And this continues among some primitive

Euro-centric scholars even today.

 

Cheers,

-Shambhu

 

Steve Hubball wrote:

>

> Namaste Mu

>

> My understanding is that all Vedic knowledge is timeless, eternal wisdom

> (and not of human origin), given to us by the grace of the Maharishis, who

> received this knowledge ultimately from Lord Brahma Himself. It is

> therefore not possible to put a date on the origins of Jyotish, and so any

> discussion regarding Vedic Astrology having come from the Greeks does seem

> rather meaningless to me.

>

> I would, of course, like to hear the opinions of our learned scholars.

>

> With all respect,

>

> Steve

>

> -

> Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey

> <vedic astrology>

> Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:07 PM

> [vedic astrology] Vedic/Greek Astrology Controversey...Please Read

>

> > All,

> >

> > The following is from my list, the Pan Astrological

> > Forum, and has to do with the issue of whether Vedic

> > Astrology came from the Greeks. This is a topic of

> > grear interest among the Western Astrological

> > Community, particularly the more Ancient Western

> > systems. I have presented my views to the contrary of

> > this contention, saying that from all that I have read

> > and studied, I have have found no evidence of VA coing

> > from the Greeks in any way, no have I found any Vedic

> > Astrological Scholars saying same. Whay do you all say

> > about this, and particularly Narasimha? Thanks for

> > your responses.

> >

> > Salaam,

> > Mu