psychic powers - Lahiri/ayanamsa puzzle

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Namaste.

First let me clarify my stand regarding respected BV Raman.

 

His books had upto a certain point in time, used Lahiri Ayanamsa, as did everyone else.

Then in his later books he naturally changed the ayanamsa.

 

If you notice very carefully, he sometimes even uses Raman Ayanamsa for the

graha positions and Lahiri for the Vimshottari Dasa?! This all becomes very

confusing.

 

The best example of this is Rabidranath Tagores horoscope, which he in his book;

Notable horoscopes, used Lahiri Ayanamsa for the calculations. And yes its

common knowledge of those devoted to Raman, that he used Lahiri Ayanamsa

before. What happened afterwards only creates confussion to me.

 

What must be stressed thou, was that he used Lahiri initially, and so should we.

Later when we've grown with experience we can change it.

 

Dear Jaan, i won't even try predicting anything on your chart until Dhira Krsna

and I have finished the discussion on his chart. When we are done, please

present your chart and question again.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

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jaan911 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

vedic astrology

Monday, June 25, 2001 1:22 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: psychic powers - Lahiri/ayanamsa puzzle

Dear Visti,can i ask where you heard that Dr Raman never came forward with his

ayanamsa?in a few of his books he has listed his ayanamsa for various yrs. i

havent seen his ephemerises to comment but the appendices in some of his books

do list his ayanamsa value.where did you get the information that he was using

lahiri ayanamsa before? practically all his charts published in his books have

been cast using of his own ayanamsa as far as i know, unless of course he went

back and changed them and edited the comments to suit Raman divisional charts,

i dont know of the dates where he might have changed the charts.if anyone is

interested in a test , my own chart changes quite drastically depending on what

ayanamsa you use.if anyone feels confident enough in their abilities or ayanamsa

then feel free to make a comment on the following areas of the chart ..the key

changes depending on ayanamsa are to education, work/social activities,

aspitarions, sibblings, sexuality, relationships, people i associate with,

inherent talent and spirituality.vimshottari dates change drastically also. i

think vimshottari dasa can be used as the moon sign is sufficiently stronger

than lagna.date of birth 11th october 1973place brunei, 4/56 N 114/55 Etime

20:38 ( 12:38 pm GMT) 8 hours east of gmtlagna should be taurus 4 to 7

degrees, navamsa lagna aquarius.depending on what ayanamsa you use the

divisional charts gives totally different results especially the navamsa.are

you up for it Visti? or anyone else?lovejaanvedic astrology, "Visti

Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:> Dear Dhira Krsna, Namaste.> > BV Raman, never

openly came forward with his Ayanamsa, only until later on> did people discover

that he had shifted from Lahiri to a different Ayanamsa,> but he never stated

its name nor why he had used it. The main point here is> that he had used

Lahiri for a long time, and didn't tell anyone to use his> Ayanamsa. Now ponder

why none of the astrologers taught and researching by> his side, used the so

called; "Raman Ayanamsa".> > As for timing events as an example, this won't

help anyone decide if the> astrologer doesn't have any predictive strength.> >

Instead tell us why one event couldn't have happened using Lahiri Ayanamsa,>

and why it could with yours.> > Make sure you use the relevant varga, and then

we have ourselves a propper> discussion.> Best wishes, Visti.> ----- Original

Message -----> Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)> To:

vedic astrology> Saturday, June 23, 2001 5:03 PM> Subject:

[vedic astrology] psychic powers - Lahiri/ayanamsa puzzle> > > Dear Visti,> >

Pranam.> > >Dear Dhira.> >On what basis have you taken an ayanamsa thats 2

degrees different from> >Lahiri?> >Isn't that stretching it abit too much?>

> I don't think this is stretching too much, after all, BV Raman accepted an>

ayanamsa which is 1 degree 27 different from Lahiri. BV Raman is an>

experienced astrologer, why he differed from Lahiri that much? And there> is>

also Ushi-shashi who takes an even greater difference of about 3 degrees> 37.>

Well, with due regard to Ushi-sashi (btw, do you have info who is>

Ushi-sashi?), I personally think that's far too off the reality, but I>

accept this ayanamsa of mine on the basis of my personal experience. My>

Vimsottari dasha just looks perfect like this.> > >I can barely find a 1 arc

error in Lahiri!> > OK, let's have a puzzle to test our ayanamsa. With

Lahiri, try to find out> what happened on May 14th 2001 at 1:30 am local time

(coordinates of my> birthplace) TZ GMT +1 with 1 hour daylight savings, which

resulted in the> activity on May 17th 2001 at 10 am.> > All attempts are

welcome. Maybe others can also have a try?> > Your sishya,> Dhira Krsna

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Dear Visti,

 

Pranam.

 

>As for timing events as an example, this won't help anyone decide if the

>astrologer doesn't have any predictive strength.

>

>Instead tell us why one event couldn't have happened using Lahiri Ayanamsa,

>and why it could with yours.

 

Indeed, in regard to dasha periods, if one is a little skillful in jugglery,

then one can explain any life event with any ayanamsa.

However, I hope you do agree with me that for timing death, the Sun should

be in trines to mrtyupada, A8. Then explain to me why on Nov. 14th, 1977, in

Vrindavan, India at 19:25 Bhaktivedanta Swami could have left his body using

the Lahiri ayanamsa? You can try with any lagna, Dhanus, Makara, Vrishika.

Unless you accept that the time zone was quite different than what we

generally accept and his lagna would have been Kumbha.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Dhira Krsna.

 

Your right. Did you know that conception also occurs when the Sun is in trines to Darapada?

Actually there are some exceptions, and especially in the charts of saints, we

shouldn't be to quick to time death.

 

However the Sun's transit isn't excuse enough, to rectify a birthtime that much.

Instead try to rectify the charts using other basic principles.

 

I don't have Bhaktivedanta's chart, so i won't comment on why he died on that

specific date, but i would like to see it nevertheless, as i have some ideas as

to why it happened.

 

We rarely get off that easy with timing events.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

Dear Visti,Pranam.>As for timing events as an example, this won't help anyone

decide if the>astrologer doesn't have any predictive strength.>>Instead tell us

why one event couldn't have happened using Lahiri Ayanamsa,>and why it could

with yours.Indeed, in regard to dasha periods, if one is a little skillful in

jugglery,then one can explain any life event with any ayanamsa.However, I hope

you do agree with me that for timing death, the Sun shouldbe in trines to

mrtyupada, A8. Then explain to me why on Nov. 14th, 1977, inVrindavan, India at

19:25 Bhaktivedanta Swami could have left his body usingthe Lahiri ayanamsa? You

can try with any lagna, Dhanus, Makara, Vrishika.Unless you accept that the time

zone was quite different than what wegenerally accept and his lagna would have

been Kumbha.Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives:

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