Ruling Planets -- 2

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Namaste,

 

After I wrote about the ruling planets, I received quite a few mails

privately. Among them was Narayan Iyer's mail. He himself had

explored KP years back but lacked a good knowledge of KP at that

time. Having explored it himself at one time, he knew enough to

appreciate its worth. He wrote:

 

>My mom gave my birth-time as 6.30AM 27 April 1971 Bombay, India.

 

>I and Narsimha rectified it to 6.29.30 using my D24. Then I further

>rectified it to 6.29 then 6.28 then 6.27.15. These were based on

>certain events. But I was not sure.

 

>So I put myself a genuine enquiry. Which among these is the correct

>time of my birth????

>The Prashna was on June 24 2001 8:51:32AM Tampa, FL. Here are the

>details:

 

Lagna Nakshatra Lord: Me®

Lagna Lord: Mo

Moon Star Lord: Me®

Moon Sign Lord: Mo

Weekday Lord: Su

 

>So the RP's were: Me®, Mo, Su & Rh on account of occupying Ge and

>that Su was Ardra.

>Out of these Me® & Mo were in star of Retreograde planets so we

>eliminate them.

>Leaving behind Su & Rh.

 

HE MISSED TWO VERY IMPORTANT POINTS.

 

How did Rahu enter the list? By virtue of being in Mercury's

sign.

When Mercury himself is eliminated out how can Rahu come? So

don't

include Rahu.

 

The ascendant sublord was not included! As I already showed he is

among the strong ruling planets. The asc sublord is Venus (the asc

given by him is Cancer 20deg51min). After making these corrections,

let us now proceed. The actual list of RP includes Venus and Sun

only. Quite an easy situation.

 

Now let us see what his question is. He clearly stated his doubt. He

had no doubt about his lagna sign. But the rest needed confirmation.

In fact he had already ascertained that Aries sign and Venus

nakshatra are correct. He even writes the same. In a situation of

this kind the asc star lord and sublord should come in the ruling

planets. One can even ascertain the subsub lord. Under the

circumstances what are the probabilities? Only one!

 

Mars(sign) Venus(nak) Sun(sub) ranging from 15deg33min20 sec to

16deg13min20sec.

 

But he wants more precision since he is using even D24. Shall we

ascertain the subsub lord? The two probabilities are (since we have

only 2 ruling planets):

 

Mars Venus Sun SUN 0R

Mars Venus Sun VENUS.

 

Who is stronger among the two? Sun is the weaker one being only the

weekday lord. Venus is definitely stronger being the Ruling Ascendant

Sublord. So shall we clinch Mars Venus Sun Venus? Let us see what

degree it falls under. It is 16deg06min40sec to 16deg13min20sec.

Since the convention in KP is to take the starting point let us take

16deg06min40sec as the exact degree of his lagna. Whether he uses

Lahiri or Krishnamurthi ayanamsha, as long as he takes this as the

degree of lagna he will be right. The reason why I have not given the

birth time is because to get this degree, he can take different times

(by seconds usually) depending on which ayanamsha or even astrology

software he is using. What we are ACTUALLY interested in is the

degree of lagna. Whichever software one is using as long as the

Ruling planets are followed the astrologer can confidently pinpoint

the ascendant. It is interesting to note that during this entire

range of 16deg06min40sec to 16deg13min20sec the D24 is the same.

After all the D24 used by Narasimha seems to be right! But the

advantage of the RP seems to be that it is EASY, FAST AND ACCURATE.

Any other method is long, tiring and after all the work one might

still not be very confident since the divisional charts like D24

belong to a subtle area and could be very difficult to a novice and

challenging to an expert.

 

A few other points need to be mentioned about the ruling planets. I

deliberately left out a few issues which might seem difficult to a

beginner. Selecting the strongest 3 of all ruling planets can be

quite challenging at times even to senior astrologers. This comes

with practice and analysis. One way of doing it is through the subs

from Prashna chart. It is best applied in conjunction with KP style

prashna. Some astrologers write that even Moon sublord should be

seen. I don't do that since it might complicate the matter by

making

the list of planets longer. But it might help to select the stronger

planet if the Moon sublord is already in the list. For instance in

Narayan's case the asc sublord Venus is also the Moon sublord. So

it

adds strength to what we already know, but gives the astrologer extra

confidence to clinch Venus as the first choice.

 

The only rule that we need to USE which I have not mentioned in my

previous mail is:

 

Planets in conjunction or aspect to the ruling planets can also jump

into the list. This is true especially if the planet is sitting in

the ruling lagna itself. Such a planet if strong, is a very good

contender. But even this is in keeping with the known concepts of

conventional vedic astrology. Judging this part of when such an extra

planet should be included or not is the only difficult area.

Sometimes (not very common though)a planet in the constellation of a

retrograde planet can still work. Don't woory about all that.

Even

without such modifications(they are only 3 to 4)you will still get it

right enough number of times and very accurately sometimes even in

the beginning. This will give you faith to work on this concept more.

With practise one can come correct 80-90%of the time. There are other

guidelines which help an astrologer in judging the strength of the

ruling planets. Such guidelines can be evolved after practising it

more. By then one starts feeling their pulse. I might demonstrate

this in another case some other time.

 

Let me bring another experience that is not very uncommon. Sometimes

you don't find the actual lagna sign lord in the ruling planets.

But

this is only in cases where the lagna sign is not in doubt. But in

all cases where the lagna sign itself is doubtful, the sign lord

finds a place in the ruling planets. The ruling planets are like

angels for an astrologer. They help in clearing the actual doubt.

They also help in predicting very accurately quite often. They almost

always help to refine a prediction arrived at through other methods.

There is a saying that the planets whisper into the ears of a good

astrologer. If that could be true, ruling planets come close to

that.

 

In passing it should be mentioned at the cost of repetition that the

query has to be genuine. It is equally important to be very clear

about the question. These rules are part of any prashna. Some clients

change the question within that 5 minutes. After asking, " Will I

pass the examination?" while the astrologer is analysing they

change

it to " I am worried that I may fail. Do you think I will

fail?" It

goes without saying that with the same chart, the answer to both the

questions can be different. Clear questions get clear answers. An

astrologer has to very clearly note at the outset the EXACT way in

which the question was asked. KP READER 6 is quite good to learn KP

style of conducting a prashna. But no book is enough because unless

you know where to look for for a particular prashna, which houses

signify the matter, even if you are experienced you will still go

wrong. No book gives all kinds of prashnas. Don't offer

predictions

for Prashnas based on loose knowledge of where to look for. In KP

everything is precise, almost like a formula. Either you are accurate

when you get it right or you get it wrong because you didn't get

your

formula right. No beating round the bush. A few reminders.

 

1. In KP Placidus is used for houses

2. Subs play the key role

3. Asc is fixed by a Number that the client gives.

4. Ruling planet asc IS different from the Arudha lagna(the one

ascertained with the number)

5. Buddhi Karmaanusaarini. The client WILL give a number that

fits well with his karmic patterns. NEVER doubt this. The mind

follows the karmas. All minds are connected. Numbers generated by

computers are no substitute for the number given by a human mind.

Whoever gives the number is at some level connected to the Universal

Intelligence. There is no element of chance in this.

6. A particular Prashna is done only once unless you are doing

another Prashna to Zoom in.

 

I don't know everything. What I know I can share. But I will

honestly

represent what HAS WORKED very well. Even to my clients if I

don't

know or haven't done a particular kind of Prashna previously I

tell

that I cannot answer that particular question. They still respect you

for your accuracy in other areas. A human being cannot and need not

know everything. Only by practise we can conclude anything. Finally

as I stated elsewhere please first try the method for a few weeks

(say 3 months) at least. You will draw your own conclusions.

 

Regards,

Satya

 

PS: Whether you take Lahiri or Krishnamurthi ayanamsha for the data

given by Narayan for 24th June will give the same ruling planets.