Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Namste Visti, I agree that we can have a very strong picture of the person's life from the chart, and always have. There are always other factors at work however, some very very important, that even the D-300 cannot begin to explain. Even if the D-300 is looked at, it cannot hope to account for the differences that are a result of the time period or place of residence. For example, where I am from, most people under the age of 20 are familiar with a computer and its uses. A generation ago this was not the case. I agree that there is an astrology for telling this, but it goes beyond the abilities of the used natal chart interpretation techniques. An identical chart with the same degrees will be produced every few thousand years. This is not enough. The effect of the precession of the equinoxes must be considered. Eventually even this will complete a full cycle, coming back to its original position. The position in each of the Yugas, Manvataras and eventually the time of the universe in relation to the life of Brahma must also be taken into consideration. Only then can someone predict blindly about the effects of a chart, without taking into account external knowledge of the effects of geography, and the trends of the time period. Imagine a person flys out to Brahma loka for a day, suffers from time dilation there, and comes back to the Earth several billion years later. How to predict then with a chart only up to the D-300? How can it be said that two charts, even with identical D-300s will have the same fate, over even approach the same levels, when one person is born in the Krita yuga, and the other in the Kali yuga? Without looking at the charts, I can tell you that the person born during the Krita yuga will be more pious and act in a more dharmic way. The person in the Kali yuga will naturally be more attached to material manifestations, and in general will be a more selfish person. Regards, Alex J vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > Namaste. > We have enough indicators in the chart to give us a very strong picture of > the persons life. > I indeed believe that we can predict practically everything from the chart, > all it takes is the devotion to keep on participating in the search for this > perfect knowledge. > > So remove all your doubts, and have complete faith in God and Guru, and one > day you yourself will be playing with the D-300. > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Alex J > vedic astrology > Monday, June 25, 2001 7:37 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: parents fate overriding destiny of children > > > Namaste Visti, > > Yes, I agree with you completely... the wording I choose was one that > was unintentionally misleading. > > The question that I was proposing was whether the chart is the > complete reflection of the karma of the individual allotted to this > life, or whether external factors must be looked at in order to > understand the karma fully. > > I have no argument against the fact that the karma of the individual > is his own and simulataneously shared with others. This is one of the > first rules of Vedic study. What I meant was that the parent > influences the child, despite the chart indications of the child. > > regards, > > Alex J > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > > Namaste Alex & Arno. > > > > I must disagree that there is an "Overriding" effect of Fate of the > parents > > towards the child. Instead its a mutual fate. Parasara gave the > chapter; > > Evils at birth, for us to look for the Aristha combinations that > prevail > > until the 24th year of birth. Alex is otherwise completely right. > > > > But there is no such thing as overriding fate! The child is > destined to die > > at the desired age, whether it be attributed to the parents or > others, its > > still part of its karma. > > > > Hence a Pilot cannot override the fate of his passengers, because > they also > > earned these karmic indicators, as does the captain and his > passengers. > > > > They all chose their fate according to the karmas they must fulfill. > > > > Best wishes, Viti. > > - > > Arno Holzmann > > vedic astrology > > Monday, June 25, 2001 11:33 AM > > [vedic astrology] parents fate overriding destiny of > children > > > > > > Namaste Alex, > > > > > This passage shows that the fate of others can in situations > override > > > the destiny indicated by their own natal charts. This is > despite the > > > *indications* in the chart of the child, that may be for superb > > > longevity. At youth the prime association of the child is with > the > > > parents, hence their ability to adversely affect the child's > destiny. > > > > Well argued! I like your analysis. Some time ago someone wanted > to know > > whether or not all people who died in a plane crash would have > been > > running > > maraka periods. Could it be possible that the pilot´s ill fate or > action > > was > > overriding that of the ( or at least some) passengers? I am asking > > because, > > as is evident from your post, there is such a thing as akala > mrityu or > > untimely death (I know that there is a Puranic shloka which uses > this > > term. > > It says there that akala mrityu is prevented if one drinks the > water > > which > > has been offered to Vishnu). A childs destined longevity can be > curtailed > > due > > to the fault or negligence of the parent (e.g. fathers gets drunk > and > > crashes > > the car). Can a pilots fate override the fate of the passengers? > What do > > you > > think? > > > > > > regards, > > > > Anantarupa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, etc > will > > > >>affect the destiny of the person. Similarly the past > generations of > > > >>family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the > country in > > > >>such cases.There are millions of factors externally > influencing the > > > >>chart of the owners through their own karmas. > > > > > > >Sure. But are you suggesting I take a quick look at a random > sample > > > >of local townsmen's charts? > > > > > > of course, what are you, lazy?? ;-) What I am saying is that > these > > > will all have a subtle influence on the chart of the person. > That is > > > why there will always be differences between charts, even when > > > identical. And it does render many particulars impossible, > leaving > > > astrology probabilistic. > > > > > > Whereas it is not possible to look at the charts of every > > > townsperson, you can understand the character and philosophies > of the > > > people, as well as the level of social/technological > development, and > > > these will form the basis from which you can interpret the > chart. The > > > identical chart 10 000 years ago will not indicate study of > computer > > > science, but would indicate study of a science prevalent at that > > > time, such as construction of yantras, which requires > mathematical > > > precision. People born in the Satya yuga with the same planetary > > > combinations will be far more Sattvic in nature than those born > in > > > the degraded Kali yuga, because the overall vibrations of the > entire > > > planet are more Tamasic in the Kali yuga. > > > > > > >Look, I am not saying nothing other than the chart will > influence > > > >the destiny of the person. My question has to do with how we > are > > > >going to analyze a chart to see those influences. > > > > > > The level of accuracy you desire is not possible. Keeping > Parasar's > > > dictum in mind, it is not possible to judge from the birth chart > > > alone, and at least all other important people in the person's > life > > > must also be analyzed to get the most accurate picture. This > can be > > > done approximately by getting life information verbally from the > > > native to understand their background and associations. > > > > > > Take an example of two people born with the exact same charts, > one > > > the son of Bill Gates, the other the daughter of a beggar. > Astrology > > > aside, using your logic, how can their two fates be the same? > If the > > > influence of other charts, the time and place are not taken into > > > consideration, how can detailed and precise predictions be > made? - > > > Their fates are different from the start. > > > > > > >In my opinion, sorry - analyzing the parents' or siblings' > charts > > > >is not an option, it would complicate the picture further. > Other > > > >list members may or may not agree with you on this... > > > > > > Do you think jyotish is not complicated? Should it be a simple > > > mathematical formula? How can this then be an accurate > representation > > > of the complexity and variability of life? > > > > > > BPHS 66 11 "The main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to > > > determine the longevity and joys and sorrows of the people, but > > > because the movements of the planets are so subtle, even sages > like > > > Vashista and Brihaspati have not been able to be quite > definite in > > > this respect. Then, how can a common man, particularly in > Kaliyuga do > > > so." > > > > > > As to why the charts of other people affect yours Parasar does > not go > > > into this in BPHS. However Parasar's son Veda Vyasa compiled the > > > Vedas and the Gita. These can be read for an explanation of > these > > > principles. These works explain many of the concepts found in > > > Parasar's jyotish classic. A good starting point is the Bhagavad > > > Gita, as this is very brief, but discusses several important > > > principles of jyotish. > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Alex J > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Namaste Alex. Your pressuming alot here, yet cover good ground. Can you show me two charts that are exactly alike with 1-2 thousand year difference. I don't use the D-300 because of my own limitations as an astrologer. Yes the progression of the equinox is important. But we both seem to agree that Astrology is enough. Lets just master what we've been taught upto now before venturing that far. Best wishes, Visti. - Alex J vedic astrology Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:45 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Even D-300 has limitations - Visti Namste Visti,I agree that we can have a very strong picture of the person's life from the chart, and always have. There are always other factors at work however, some very very important, that even the D-300 cannot begin to explain. Even if the D-300 is looked at, it cannot hope to account for the differences that are a result of the time period or place of residence. For example, where I am from, most people under the age of 20 are familiar with a computer and its uses. A generation ago this was not the case.I agree that there is an astrology for telling this, but it goes beyond the abilities of the used natal chart interpretation techniques. An identical chart with the same degrees will be produced every few thousand years. This is not enough.The effect of the precession of the equinoxes must be considered. Eventually even this will complete a full cycle, coming back to its original position. The position in each of the Yugas, Manvataras and eventually the time of the universe in relation to the life of Brahma must also be taken into consideration.Only then can someone predict blindly about the effects of a chart, without taking into account external knowledge of the effects of geography, and the trends of the time period. Imagine a person flys out to Brahma loka for a day, suffers from time dilation there, and comes back to the Earth several billion years later. How to predict then with a chart only up to the D-300?How can it be said that two charts, even with identical D-300s will have the same fate, over even approach the same levels, when one person is born in the Krita yuga, and the other in the Kali yuga? Without looking at the charts, I can tell you that the person born during the Krita yuga will be more pious and act in a more dharmic way. The person in the Kali yuga will naturally be more attached to material manifestations, and in general will be a more selfish person. Regards,Alex J--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:> Namaste.> We have enough indicators in the chart to give us a very strong picture of> the persons life.> I indeed believe that we can predict practically everything from the chart,> all it takes is the devotion to keep on participating in the search for this> perfect knowledge.> > So remove all your doubts, and have complete faith in God and Guru, and one> day you yourself will be playing with the D-300.> > Best wishes, Visti.> -> Alex J> To: vedic astrology> Monday, June 25, 2001 7:37 PM> Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: parents fate overriding destiny of children> > > Namaste Visti,> > Yes, I agree with you completely... the wording I choose was one that> was unintentionally misleading.> > The question that I was proposing was whether the chart is the> complete reflection of the karma of the individual allotted to this> life, or whether external factors must be looked at in order to> understand the karma fully.> > I have no argument against the fact that the karma of the individual> is his own and simulataneously shared with others. This is one of the> first rules of Vedic study. What I meant was that the parent> influences the child, despite the chart indications of the child.> > regards,> > Alex J> > --- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:> > Namaste Alex & Arno.> >> > I must disagree that there is an "Overriding" effect of Fate of the> parents> > towards the child. Instead its a mutual fate. Parasara gave the> chapter;> > Evils at birth, for us to look for the Aristha combinations that> prevail> > until the 24th year of birth. Alex is otherwise completely right.> >> > But there is no such thing as overriding fate! The child is> destined to die> > at the desired age, whether it be attributed to the parents or> others, its> > still part of its karma.> >> > Hence a Pilot cannot override the fate of his passengers, because> they also> > earned these karmic indicators, as does the captain and his> passengers.> >> > They all chose their fate according to the karmas they must fulfill.> >> > Best wishes, Viti.> > -> > Arno Holzmann> > vedic astrology> > Monday, June 25, 2001 11:33 AM> > [vedic astrology] parents fate overriding destiny of> children> >> >> > Namaste Alex,> >> > > This passage shows that the fate of others can in situations> override> > > the destiny indicated by their own natal charts. This is> despite the> > > *indications* in the chart of the child, that may be for superb> > > longevity. At youth the prime association of the child is with> the> > > parents, hence their ability to adversely affect the child's> destiny.> >> > Well argued! I like your analysis. Some time ago someone wanted> to know> > whether or not all people who died in a plane crash would have> been> > running> > maraka periods. Could it be possible that the pilot´s ill fate or> action> > was> > overriding that of the ( or at least some) passengers? I am asking> > because,> > as is evident from your post, there is such a thing as akala> mrityu or> > untimely death (I know that there is a Puranic shloka which uses> this> > term.> > It says there that akala mrityu is prevented if one drinks the> water> > which> > has been offered to Vishnu). A childs destined longevity can be> curtailed> > due> > to the fault or negligence of the parent (e.g. fathers gets drunk> and> > crashes> > the car). Can a pilots fate override the fate of the passengers?> What do> > you> > think?> >> >> > regards,> >> > Anantarupa> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, etc> will> > > >>affect the destiny of the person. Similarly the past> generations of> > > >>family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the> country in> > > >>such cases.There are millions of factors externally> influencing the> > > >>chart of the owners through their own karmas.> > >> > > >Sure. But are you suggesting I take a quick look at a random> sample> > > >of local townsmen's charts? > > >> > > of course, what are you, lazy?? ;-) What I am saying is that> these> > > will all have a subtle influence on the chart of the person.> That is> > > why there will always be differences between charts, even when> > > identical. And it does render many particulars impossible,> leaving> > > astrology probabilistic.> > >> > > Whereas it is not possible to look at the charts of every> > > townsperson, you can understand the character and philosophies> of the> > > people, as well as the level of social/technological> development, and> > > these will form the basis from which you can interpret the> chart. The> > > identical chart 10 000 years ago will not indicate study of> computer> > > science, but would indicate study of a science prevalent at that> > > time, such as construction of yantras, which requires> mathematical> > > precision. People born in the Satya yuga with the same planetary> > > combinations will be far more Sattvic in nature than those born> in> > > the degraded Kali yuga, because the overall vibrations of the> entire> > > planet are more Tamasic in the Kali yuga.> > >> > > >Look, I am not saying nothing other than the chart will> influence> > > >the destiny of the person. My question has to do with how we> are> > > >going to analyze a chart to see those influences.> > >> > > The level of accuracy you desire is not possible. Keeping> Parasar's> > > dictum in mind, it is not possible to judge from the birth chart> > > alone, and at least all other important people in the person's> life> > > must also be analyzed to get the most accurate picture. This> can be> > > done approximately by getting life information verbally from the> > > native to understand their background and associations.> > >> > > Take an example of two people born with the exact same charts,> one> > > the son of Bill Gates, the other the daughter of a beggar.> Astrology> > > aside, using your logic, how can their two fates be the same?> If the> > > influence of other charts, the time and place are not taken into> > > consideration, how can detailed and precise predictions be> made? -> > > Their fates are different from the start.> > >> > > >In my opinion, sorry - analyzing the parents' or siblings'> charts> > > >is not an option, it would complicate the picture further.> Other> > > >list members may or may not agree with you on this...> > >> > > Do you think jyotish is not complicated? Should it be a simple> > > mathematical formula? How can this then be an accurate> representation> > > of the complexity and variability of life?> > >> > > BPHS 66 11 "The main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are to> > > determine the longevity and joys and sorrows of the people, but> > > because the movements of the planets are so subtle, even sages> like> > > Vashista and Brihaspati have not been able to be quite> definite in> > > this respect. Then, how can a common man, particularly in> Kaliyuga do> > > so."> > >> > > As to why the charts of other people affect yours Parasar does> not go> > > into this in BPHS. However Parasar's son Veda Vyasa compiled the> > > Vedas and the Gita. These can be read for an explanation of> these> > > principles. These works explain many of the concepts found in> > > Parasar's jyotish classic. A good starting point is the Bhagavad> > > Gita, as this is very brief, but discusses several important> > > principles of jyotish.> > >> > > All the best,> > >> > > Alex J> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > >> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> > > >> >> > Sponsor> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> >> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> > > Sponsor> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Namaste, Good point Visti. Indeed I do not know how many thousands of years it takes for all of the planets to realign themselves to the exact same points, I have assumed that it is in the thousands of years, rather than millions or billions. I believe this is correct, but have not calculated. I am sure this can be done easilt with a program. I bring up the point about the yugas, etc. affecting the chart because they are mentioned so frequently in the sacred literature, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam. Of course I have no conception of the methods to be utilized, but it is interesting nonetheless. regards, Alex J vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > Namaste Alex. > Your pressuming alot here, yet cover good ground. > Can you show me two charts that are exactly alike with 1-2 thousand year > difference. > > I don't use the D-300 because of my own limitations as an astrologer. > Yes the progression of the equinox is important. > > But we both seem to agree that Astrology is enough. > Lets just master what we've been taught upto now before venturing that far. > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Alex J > vedic astrology > Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:45 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Even D-300 has limitations - Visti > > > Namste Visti, > > I agree that we can have a very strong picture of the person's life > from the chart, and always have. There are always other factors at > work however, some very very important, that even the D-300 cannot > begin to explain. > > Even if the D-300 is looked at, it cannot hope to account for the > differences that are a result of the time period or place of > residence. For example, where I am from, most people under the age of > 20 are familiar with a computer and its uses. A generation ago this > was not the case. > > I agree that there is an astrology for telling this, but it goes > beyond the abilities of the used natal chart interpretation > techniques. An identical chart with the same degrees will be produced > every few thousand years. This is not enough. > > The effect of the precession of the equinoxes must be considered. > Eventually even this will complete a full cycle, coming back to its > original position. The position in each of the Yugas, Manvataras and > eventually the time of the universe in relation to the life of Brahma > must also be taken into consideration. > > Only then can someone predict blindly about the effects of a chart, > without taking into account external knowledge of the effects of > geography, and the trends of the time period. Imagine a person flys > out to Brahma loka for a day, suffers from time dilation there, and > comes back to the Earth several billion years later. How to predict > then with a chart only up to the D-300? > > How can it be said that two charts, even with identical D-300s will > have the same fate, over even approach the same levels, when one > person is born in the Krita yuga, and the other in the Kali yuga? > Without looking at the charts, I can tell you that the person born > during the Krita yuga will be more pious and act in a more dharmic > way. The person in the Kali yuga will naturally be more attached to > material manifestations, and in general will be a more selfish > person. > > Regards, > > Alex J > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > > Namaste. > > We have enough indicators in the chart to give us a very strong > picture of > > the persons life. > > I indeed believe that we can predict practically everything from > the chart, > > all it takes is the devotion to keep on participating in the search > for this > > perfect knowledge. > > > > So remove all your doubts, and have complete faith in God and Guru, > and one > > day you yourself will be playing with the D-300. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > Alex J > > vedic astrology > > Monday, June 25, 2001 7:37 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: parents fate overriding destiny of > children > > > > > > Namaste Visti, > > > > Yes, I agree with you completely... the wording I choose was one > that > > was unintentionally misleading. > > > > The question that I was proposing was whether the chart is the > > complete reflection of the karma of the individual allotted to > this > > life, or whether external factors must be looked at in order to > > understand the karma fully. > > > > I have no argument against the fact that the karma of the > individual > > is his own and simulataneously shared with others. This is one of > the > > first rules of Vedic study. What I meant was that the parent > > influences the child, despite the chart indications of the child. > > > > regards, > > > > Alex J > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote: > > > Namaste Alex & Arno. > > > > > > I must disagree that there is an "Overriding" effect of Fate of > the > > parents > > > towards the child. Instead its a mutual fate. Parasara gave the > > chapter; > > > Evils at birth, for us to look for the Aristha combinations that > > prevail > > > until the 24th year of birth. Alex is otherwise completely > right. > > > > > > But there is no such thing as overriding fate! The child is > > destined to die > > > at the desired age, whether it be attributed to the parents or > > others, its > > > still part of its karma. > > > > > > Hence a Pilot cannot override the fate of his passengers, > because > > they also > > > earned these karmic indicators, as does the captain and his > > passengers. > > > > > > They all chose their fate according to the karmas they must > fulfill. > > > > > > Best wishes, Viti. > > > - > > > Arno Holzmann > > > vedic astrology > > > Monday, June 25, 2001 11:33 AM > > > [vedic astrology] parents fate overriding destiny of > > children > > > > > > > > > Namaste Alex, > > > > > > > This passage shows that the fate of others can in situations > > override > > > > the destiny indicated by their own natal charts. This is > > despite the > > > > *indications* in the chart of the child, that may be for > superb > > > > longevity. At youth the prime association of the child is > with > > the > > > > parents, hence their ability to adversely affect the child's > > destiny. > > > > > > Well argued! I like your analysis. Some time ago someone > wanted > > to know > > > whether or not all people who died in a plane crash would have > > been > > > running > > > maraka periods. Could it be possible that the pilot´s ill > fate or > > action > > > was > > > overriding that of the ( or at least some) passengers? I am > asking > > > because, > > > as is evident from your post, there is such a thing as akala > > mrityu or > > > untimely death (I know that there is a Puranic shloka which > uses > > this > > > term. > > > It says there that akala mrityu is prevented if one drinks the > > water > > > which > > > has been offered to Vishnu). A childs destined longevity can > be > > curtailed > > > due > > > to the fault or negligence of the parent (e.g. fathers gets > drunk > > and > > > crashes > > > the car). Can a pilots fate override the fate of the > passengers? > > What do > > > you > > > think? > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Anantarupa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Likewise the charts of all family members, wife, friends, > etc > > will > > > > >>affect the destiny of the person. Similarly the past > > generations of > > > > >>family, local townsmen, and so on. Even the fate of the > > country in > > > > >>such cases.There are millions of factors externally > > influencing the > > > > >>chart of the owners through their own karmas. > > > > > > > > >Sure. But are you suggesting I take a quick look at a > random > > sample > > > > >of local townsmen's charts? > > > > > > > > of course, what are you, lazy?? ;-) What I am saying is that > > these > > > > will all have a subtle influence on the chart of the person. > > That is > > > > why there will always be differences between charts, even > when > > > > identical. And it does render many particulars impossible, > > leaving > > > > astrology probabilistic. > > > > > > > > Whereas it is not possible to look at the charts of every > > > > townsperson, you can understand the character and > philosophies > > of the > > > > people, as well as the level of social/technological > > development, and > > > > these will form the basis from which you can interpret the > > chart. The > > > > identical chart 10 000 years ago will not indicate study of > > computer > > > > science, but would indicate study of a science prevalent at > that > > > > time, such as construction of yantras, which requires > > mathematical > > > > precision. People born in the Satya yuga with the same > planetary > > > > combinations will be far more Sattvic in nature than those > born > > in > > > > the degraded Kali yuga, because the overall vibrations of > the > > entire > > > > planet are more Tamasic in the Kali yuga. > > > > > > > > >Look, I am not saying nothing other than the chart will > > influence > > > > >the destiny of the person. My question has to do with how > we > > are > > > > >going to analyze a chart to see those influences. > > > > > > > > The level of accuracy you desire is not possible. Keeping > > Parasar's > > > > dictum in mind, it is not possible to judge from the birth > chart > > > > alone, and at least all other important people in the > person's > > life > > > > must also be analyzed to get the most accurate picture. This > > can be > > > > done approximately by getting life information verbally > from the > > > > native to understand their background and associations. > > > > > > > > Take an example of two people born with the exact same > charts, > > one > > > > the son of Bill Gates, the other the daughter of a beggar. > > Astrology > > > > aside, using your logic, how can their two fates be the > same? > > If the > > > > influence of other charts, the time and place are not taken > into > > > > consideration, how can detailed and precise predictions be > > made? - > > > > Their fates are different from the start. > > > > > > > > >In my opinion, sorry - analyzing the parents' or siblings' > > charts > > > > >is not an option, it would complicate the picture further. > > Other > > > > >list members may or may not agree with you on this... > > > > > > > > Do you think jyotish is not complicated? Should it be a > simple > > > > mathematical formula? How can this then be an accurate > > representation > > > > of the complexity and variability of life? > > > > > > > > BPHS 66 11 "The main purposes of this Jyotish Shastra are > to > > > > determine the longevity and joys and sorrows of the people, > but > > > > because the movements of the planets are so subtle, even > sages > > like > > > > Vashista and Brihaspati have not been able to be quite > > definite in > > > > this respect. Then, how can a common man, particularly in > > Kaliyuga do > > > > so." > > > > > > > > As to why the charts of other people affect yours Parasar > does > > not go > > > > into this in BPHS. However Parasar's son Veda Vyasa > compiled the > > > > Vedas and the Gita. These can be read for an explanation of > > these > > > > principles. These works explain many of the concepts found > in > > > > Parasar's jyotish classic. A good starting point is the > Bhagavad > > > > Gita, as this is very brief, but discusses several important > > > > principles of jyotish. > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > Alex J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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