Basic Questions

September 6, 2001

Om Krishna Guru!!!

Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back in this column and

helping out lost souls. There are certain questions always boiling me

from inside and I would appreciate if all you gurus can shed some

light on these.

Also I am including my birth details because I am sincere in knowing

answers to these questions which SJVC gurus might verify from my

birth chart.

DOB - May 8, 1968

TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

Here are the questions:

1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to play games with

individual souls?

2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand Maya?

3> Why hasn't the great seers and Rishis never tried to stop Maya?

4> If one gets Moksha does that mean he gets Moksha only for this

Kalpa or only during the lifetime of this Brahma or for eternity?

5> Repeating GOD's name always works. There is a mystical power to

the sound of God's name. Where can I get the knowledge of this

mystical power in God's name? Where is that science and why does it

work?

I will come back with more questions if I get answers from SJVC gurus.

Thanks a million!

Murali

September 6, 2001

Dear Murali,

Namaste.

Please allow me to pop in as one fo the SJVC Gurus. Others may comment

further.

> Om Krishna Guru!!!

>

> Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back in this column and

> helping out lost souls. There are certain questions always boiling me

> from inside and I would appreciate if all you gurus can shed some

> light on these.

> Also I am including my birth details because I am sincere in knowing

> answers to these questions which SJVC gurus might verify from my

> birth chart.

> DOB - May 8, 1968

> TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

>

> Here are the questions:

>

> 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to play games with

> individual souls?

Well, according to the Bhagavatam, the Absolute Truth has three acpetcs:

Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan. Out of these, Bhagavan is the Supreme

Person. What else is He supposed to do besides playing games? In His Leela

He fulfils His own desires, and makes the souls (Jeevas) perfectly happy by

giving them an opportunity to serve His pleasure. He is Purusha, the Supreme

Enjoyer, while we (teh individual souls) arre Prakriti, or the enjoyed ones.

> 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand Maya?

Maya is created out of the Jeevas's free will, which led them to desire for

separate enjoyment from Bhagavan.

> 3> Why hasn't the great seers and Rishis never tried to stop Maya?

They tried, and continually try. That's why Vedavyasa wrote the Bhagavatam,

and Srila Prabhupada translated it into English, and all other languages of

the world.

> 4> If one gets Moksha does that mean he gets Moksha only for this

> Kalpa or only during the lifetime of this Brahma or for eternity?

Muktir hitvaanyathaa ruupam svaruupenah vyavasthitih says the Bhagavatam, or

rela Moksha is to regain your original, eternal spiritual identity (Svarupa)

and it is forever, not for just one Kalpa.

> 5> Repeating GOD's name always works. There is a mystical power to

> the sound of God's name. Where can I get the knowledge of this

> mystical power in God's name? Where is that science and why does it

> work?

It is described in the Bhagavatam in numerous verses. Also other works by

Prabhupada speak a lot about the power of the Holy Names. His quotes are

collected in a book called Shri Naamamrita. Please go to

www.krishnaculture.com and search fro Sri Namamrta. It can be bought online

for 4 or 9 USD. Also Sri Harinama Cintamani by Bhaktivinoda Thakura is

advised for study.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone: +36-309-140-839

Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> I will come back with more questions if I get answers from SJVC gurus.

>

> Thanks a million!

>

> Murali

>

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>

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September 6, 2001

Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Murali,

Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as provided in the standard texts. I

will add the comments from the viewpoint of Jyotish..Best WishesSanjay Rath

-

<m_muraly >

Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> Om Krishna Guru!!!> > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,> I am delighted to see Pt.

Sanjay Rath is back in this column and > helping out lost souls. There are

certain questions always boiling me > from inside and I would appreciate if all

you gurus can shed some > light on these.> Also I am including my birth details

because I am sincere in knowing > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

might verify from my > birth chart.> DOB - May 8, 1968> TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37

PM - IST)> POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min> > Here are the

questions:> > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to play games with

> individual souls?

RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM LEELA. LOOK AT A SIMPLE CONCEPT OF

UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW THAT NARAYANA IS THE PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF

GOD, YET WE LIKE TO CALL HIM BY DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY

HAS THIS HAPPENED? THIS DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA GUNA.

JUPITER INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM (IF ANY) OF THE LORD

WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE DIFFERENTIATED FORM AND LEADS TO THE

WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S OF BHAGAVAN.

BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS RAJAS GUNA

THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND CAUSE THIS CREATION TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT.

LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG, THEY ARE SEEMINGLY SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS

GUNA THAT CAUSED THEIR CREATION INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP

INSIDE RESIDES A SPARK OF LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY DOING WHAT IS HIS PREDOMINANT

NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO VARIOUS PARTS AND FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE

ALL OTHER PARTS OF CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE

STORY IS RAJAS GUNA WHICH LEADS TO WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY

THINGS AND BEINGS SHALL ONE DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

OF CREATIONS..MEN 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand Maya?

LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS ALSO CREATED

FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUANITY TO CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY

REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH. THAT IS WHY MAYA IS CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT

IS AT HER BEHEST THAT THE "GATI" OF ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS

'GATISTWAM GATI STWAM TWAM EKA BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR

THE REALISATION PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

(SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR AQUIRING MORE

OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE SELF REALISATION OR PERCEIVE

THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH THE ARUDHA PADA. AS AN EXAMPLE LET

US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA CAN BE A DEMON WHEN IT COMES TO THE FALSE

SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT WE ALL HAVE. INSPITE OF KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT WE

SHALL ALL DIE ONE DAY, WE CONTINUE IN THE DEEP INNER FAITH THAT SOMEHOW WE SHALL

BE THE 'CHOSEN LUCKY' ONES TO LIVE FOREVER. THIS FALSE SENCE IS LIKE THE DEMON

OF UNTRUTH OR ASAT AND IS REPRESENTED BY THE ARUDHA LAGNA. THIS MAKES US FEEL

BIG AND MIGHTYI.E. THE GREATER THE MAYA OF THE ARUDHA THE MORE THE MIGHTY

FEELING. THUS, WHEN THE LAGNA (SATYA) ARRIVES IN THE ARUDHA LAGNA (OR ITS

TRINES OR 7TH HOUSE OR THE SIGN OCCUPIED BY ITS LORD), THIS SENCE OF UNTRUTH IS

DESTROYED AND DEATH OCCURS [RATH'S RULE SEE CRUX OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY].

THUS THE EXISTENCE OF THE ATMA IN BODIES AND IN THIS MAYA IS NECESSARY FOR THE

SELF REALISATION AND FOR THE LEARNING AND CLEANSING PROCESS.

> 3> Why hasn't the great seers and Rishis never tried to stop Maya?

RATH: WHY SHOULD THEY? THE MAHARISHI'S UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS AND ARE IN

PERFECT HARMONY WITH ALL THESE ACTS OF GOD KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT MAYA (IN THE

SENCE OF WORLDLY ENJOYMENTS- A VERY RESTRICTED CONCEPT AS USED IN YOUR QUESTION)

IS THERE TO HELP THE ATMA DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GOOD AND BAD AND THIS

DIFFERENTIATION IS ALSO BORNE OUT OF THE ESSENTIAL INNER NATURE OF THE

PREVAILING GUNA OF RAJAS WITHIN THE ATMA THAT HAS CAUSED ITS DIFFERENTIATION

FROM THE PARAMATMA. IF THE ONENESS WITH GOD IS COMPLETE, THEN MOKSHA IS

IMMINENT.

> 4> If one gets Moksha does that mean he gets Moksha only for this > Kalpa or

only during the lifetime of this Brahma or for eternity?

RATH: THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF MOKSHA. EVEN BRAHMA IS CREATED FROM THE BODY OF

NARAYANA AND HAS EVOLVED FROM THE RAJAS THAT PREVAILED FOR HIS CREATION. SO,

BRAHMA GETS MOKSHA ONCE IN 100 BRAHMA YEARS AND ANOTHER BRAHMA IS CREATED AFTER

THE NIGHT IS OVER FROM THE CYCLE OF TIME THAT CAUSES THE RAJAS TO PREVAIL

TOWARDS THE END OF THE (BRAHMA PERIOD'S) NIGHT.

> 5> Repeating GOD's name always works. There is a mystical power to > the sound

of God's name. Where can I get the knowledge of this > mystical power in God's

name? Where is that science and why does it > work?RATH: WHAT YOU SPEAK OF IS

MANTRA SHASTRA. READ THIS CHAPTER VERY CAREFLLY FROM MY BOOK VEDIC REMEDIES IN

ASTROLOGY. MAKE YOUR NOTES. I WILL BE GIVING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF ACHYUTA DASA

VERY SOON MAYBE IN A MONTH OR TWO ON THIS. MANTRA SHASTRA IS THE SCIENCE. READ

ABOUT EACH PHONEME, I WILL GIVE THE ORDER OF CREATION OF THE SYLLABLES AND THE

SYLLABLES WITH LIFE ETC LATER.

> I will come back with more questions if I get answers from SJVC gurus.> >

Thanks a million!> > Murali

September 7, 2001

Om Krishna Guru!!!

A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and Gauranga Das. Pardon me

for asking related questions again. I am trying to understand. I also

feel like writing( expressing words in written form) always leaves

room for doubts as it does not give the intent completely. That's why

I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday better than Smriti.

1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do except playing

games somehow does not seem right to me. Also going to Pt. Sanjay

Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise to the

manifestation of this Universe - My question is why is the imbalance

created. In my experience a bad person could completely lose his Tamo

guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once gunas become

Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or Tamas. If NARAYANA is

completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are born out of him?

2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like Brahma is having the

greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though. But if I want to

be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why was Arjuna

previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot I have Krishna by

my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What is the procedure

and what is the guarantee that it is the right procedure?

4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I have all the books

of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward to the article that

Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its going to give a lot

more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial thing about Mantra

Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts birth time needs to

be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when the baby first cries

or when it touches the ground or when it is conceived?

Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted for me by couple of

SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is time but I am not

very confident about the prediction though.

Thanks again!

Murali

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> --------------------------

> Dear Murali,

> Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as provided in the

standard texts. I will add the comments from the viewpoint of

Jyotish..

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> <m_muraly>

> <vedic astrology>

> Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

>

> > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> >

> > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back in this column and

> > helping out lost souls. There are certain questions always

boiling me

> > from inside and I would appreciate if all you gurus can shed some

> > light on these.

> > Also I am including my birth details because I am sincere in

knowing

> > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus might verify from my

> > birth chart.

> > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> >

> > Here are the questions:

> >

> > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to play games with

> > individual souls?

> RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM LEELA. LOOK AT A

SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW THAT NARAYANA IS THE

PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO CALL HIM BY

DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED? THIS

DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA GUNA. JUPITER

INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM (IF ANY) OF THE

LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE DIFFERENTIATED FORM

AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S OF BHAGAVAN.

> BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND CAUSE THIS CREATION

TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG, THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED THEIR CREATION

INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE RESIDES A SPARK OF

LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY DOING WHAT IS HIS

PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO VARIOUS PARTS AND

FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CREATIONS..MEN

120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

>

> > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand Maya?

>

> LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUANITY TO

CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH. THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST THAT THE "GATI" OF

ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE REALISATION

PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

(SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE SELF

REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

>

> IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT WE ALL HAVE.

INSPITE OF KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT WE SHALL ALL DIE ONE DAY, WE

CONTINUE IN THE DEEP INNER FAITH THAT SOMEHOW WE SHALL BE THE 'CHOSEN

LUCKY' ONES TO LIVE FOREVER. THIS FALSE SENCE IS LIKE THE DEMON OF

UNTRUTH OR ASAT AND IS REPRESENTED BY THE ARUDHA LAGNA. THIS MAKES US

FEEL BIG AND MIGHTYI.E. THE GREATER THE MAYA OF THE ARUDHA THE MORE

THE MIGHTY FEELING. THUS, WHEN THE LAGNA (SATYA) ARRIVES IN THE

ARUDHA LAGNA (OR ITS TRINES OR 7TH HOUSE OR THE SIGN OCCUPIED BY ITS

LORD), THIS SENCE OF UNTRUTH IS DESTROYED AND DEATH OCCURS [RATH'S

RULE SEE CRUX OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY].

>

> THUS THE EXISTENCE OF THE ATMA IN BODIES AND IN THIS MAYA IS

NECESSARY FOR THE SELF REALISATION AND FOR THE LEARNING AND CLEANSING

PROCESS.

>

> > 3> Why hasn't the great seers and Rishis never tried to stop Maya?

> RATH: WHY SHOULD THEY? THE MAHARISHI'S UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS AND

ARE IN PERFECT HARMONY WITH ALL THESE ACTS OF GOD KNOWING FULLY WELL

THAT MAYA (IN THE SENCE OF WORLDLY ENJOYMENTS- A VERY RESTRICTED

CONCEPT AS USED IN YOUR QUESTION) IS THERE TO HELP THE ATMA

DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GOOD AND BAD AND THIS DIFFERENTIATION IS ALSO

BORNE OUT OF THE ESSENTIAL INNER NATURE OF THE PREVAILING GUNA OF

RAJAS WITHIN THE ATMA THAT HAS CAUSED ITS DIFFERENTIATION FROM THE

PARAMATMA. IF THE ONENESS WITH GOD IS COMPLETE, THEN MOKSHA IS

IMMINENT.

>

> > 4> If one gets Moksha does that mean he gets Moksha only for this

> > Kalpa or only during the lifetime of this Brahma or for eternity?

> RATH: THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF MOKSHA. EVEN BRAHMA IS CREATED

FROM THE BODY OF NARAYANA AND HAS EVOLVED FROM THE RAJAS THAT

PREVAILED FOR HIS CREATION. SO, BRAHMA GETS MOKSHA ONCE IN 100 BRAHMA

YEARS AND ANOTHER BRAHMA IS CREATED AFTER THE NIGHT IS OVER FROM THE

CYCLE OF TIME THAT CAUSES THE RAJAS TO PREVAIL TOWARDS THE END OF THE

(BRAHMA PERIOD'S) NIGHT.

>

> > 5> Repeating GOD's name always works. There is a mystical power

to

> > the sound of God's name. Where can I get the knowledge of this

> > mystical power in God's name? Where is that science and why does

it

> > work?

> RATH: WHAT YOU SPEAK OF IS MANTRA SHASTRA. READ THIS CHAPTER VERY

CAREFLLY FROM MY BOOK VEDIC REMEDIES IN ASTROLOGY. MAKE YOUR NOTES. I

WILL BE GIVING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF ACHYUTA DASA VERY SOON MAYBE IN A

MONTH OR TWO ON THIS. MANTRA SHASTRA IS THE SCIENCE. READ ABOUT EACH

PHONEME, I WILL GIVE THE ORDER OF CREATION OF THE SYLLABLES AND THE

SYLLABLES WITH LIFE ETC LATER.

>

> > I will come back with more questions if I get answers from SJVC

gurus.

> >

> > Thanks a million!

> >

> > Murali

September 8, 2001

Respected Gurus,

I will like to answer some of the points not for the

satisfaction of mr. muraly for my own clerification of

thoughts, as i belive that what muraly is going

through is self discovery and needs to be done by

one-own self, with the help of able Grurus. I have

gone thru this process and I will like you people to

correct me if I am wrong.

> 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do

> except playing

> games somehow does not seem right to me. Also going

> to Pt. Sanjay

> Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise

> to the

> manifestation of this Universe - My question is why

> is the imbalance

> created. In my experience a bad person could

> completely lose his Tamo

> guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once

> gunas become

> Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or Tamas.

> If NARAYANA is

> completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are born

> out of him?

ans: God (Bhagwan) the suprim athurity is a nirakar

tatva and is nirguna, and he as said wonted to play

(or) wanted to see himself in many forms so he made a

sankalpa,by which the universe start from the water.

he atained a from of narayana,This narayana has all

the three gunas in him, but the satya guna is stronger

then others. from this narayan came three forms -

vishnu (satva guna), brahma (rajas guna) and shiva

(tamo guna). the sustainer,creater and distroyer. Man

is born with all the three gunas in him, depending on

his vasnas the quantity of guna differs and that

becomes his svabhav.

> 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like

> Brahma is having the

> greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though.

> But if I want to

> be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

ans : Bhakti, bhakti, bhakti, bhakti, bhakti......

3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why

> was Arjuna

> previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot I

> have Krishna by

> my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What is

> the procedure

> and what is the guarantee that it is the right

> procedure?

Ans : It is not atall difficult to talk to god.

he was previleged due to his undivided devotion

towards krishna.

You always have krishna not only by your side,

but by all the 12 direction and also inside you, you

need kirpa of krishna to see him.

Where you want to desolve your self. your are

nothing, and since you are nothing cant desolve.

Procedure is only "BHAKTI" and it need no

guarantee.

> 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I

> have all the books

> of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward to

> the article that

> Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its

> going to give a lot

> more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial thing

> about Mantra

> Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts

> birth time needs to

> be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when the

> baby first cries

> or when it touches the ground or when it is

> conceived?

>

> Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted for

> me by couple of

Q? : a man who wants to desolve, wants to get

married. (this is also one of the ways to attain the

fulfillment, I think that is what is required ant the

inlightment of god realisation, but, wife realisation)

sorry for the comments, but this was a silly question

to be included by an student who seeks knowledge.

bharat

> SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is

> time but I am not

> very confident about the prediction though.

>

> Thanks again!

> Murali

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> <srath@v...> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

>

--------------------------

> > Dear Murali,

> > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as

> provided in the

> standard texts. I will add the comments from the

> viewpoint of

> Jyotish..

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > <m_muraly>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > >

> > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back in

> this column and

> > > helping out lost souls. There are certain

> questions always

> boiling me

> > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you

> gurus can shed some

> > > light on these.

> > > Also I am including my birth details because I

> am sincere in

> knowing

> > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

> might verify from my

> > > birth chart.

> > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > >

> > > Here are the questions:

> > >

> > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to

> play games with

> > > individual souls?

> > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM

> LEELA. LOOK AT A

> SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW THAT

> NARAYANA IS THE

> PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO

> CALL HIM BY

> DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS

> THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA

> GUNA. JUPITER

> INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM

> (IF ANY) OF THE

> LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE

> DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S OF

> BHAGAVAN.

> > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE

> PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND

> CAUSE THIS CREATION

> TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG,

> THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED

> THEIR CREATION

> INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE

> RESIDES A SPARK OF

> LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY

> DOING WHAT IS HIS

> PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO

> VARIOUS PARTS AND

> FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF CREATION,

> HE TOO SHALL BE

> DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS GUNA

> WHICH LEADS TO

> WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS AND

> BEINGS SHALL ONE

> DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

> OF CREATIONS..MEN

> 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> >

> > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand

> Maya?

> >

> > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS

> DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN

> OPPORTUANITY TO

> CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH.

> THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST

> THAT THE "GATI" OF

> ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM

> GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE

> REALISATION

> PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE

> DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE PARAMATMA

> DUE TO THEIR

> AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE

> ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> >

> > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH THE

> ARUDHA PADA. AS

> AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA

> CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT

> WE ALL HAVE.

> INSPITE OF KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT WE SHALL ALL DIE

> ONE DAY, WE

> CONTINUE IN THE DEEP INNER FAITH THAT SOMEHOW WE

> SHALL BE THE 'CHOSEN

> LUCKY' ONES TO LIVE FOREVER. THIS FALSE SENCE IS

> LIKE THE DEMON OF

> UNTRUTH OR ASAT AND IS REPRESENTED BY THE ARUDHA

> LAGNA. THIS MAKES US

> FEEL BIG AND MIGHTYI.E. THE GREATER THE MAYA OF THE

> ARUDHA THE MORE

> THE MIGHTY FEELING. THUS, WHEN THE LAGNA (SATYA)

> ARRIVES IN THE

> ARUDHA LAGNA (OR ITS TRINES OR 7TH HOUSE OR THE SIGN

> OCCUPIED BY ITS

> LORD), THIS SENCE OF UNTRUTH IS DESTROYED AND DEATH

> OCCURS

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Dear Muruli,

Add your jhd chart. What is the link between your 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

<m_muraly

Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> Om Krishna Guru!!!

>

> A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> for asking related questions again. I am trying to understand. I also

> feel like writing( expressing words in written form) always leaves

> room for doubts as it does not give the intent completely. That's why

> I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday better than Smriti.

>

> 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do except playing

> games somehow does not seem right to me. Also going to Pt. Sanjay

> Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise to the

> manifestation of this Universe - My question is why is the imbalance

> created. In my experience a bad person could completely lose his Tamo

> guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once gunas become

> Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or Tamas. If NARAYANA is

> completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are born out of him?

> 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like Brahma is having the

> greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though. But if I want to

> be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

> 3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why was Arjuna

> previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot I have Krishna by

> my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What is the procedure

> and what is the guarantee that it is the right procedure?

> 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I have all the books

> of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward to the article that

> Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its going to give a lot

> more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial thing about Mantra

> Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts birth time needs to

> be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when the baby first cries

> or when it touches the ground or when it is conceived?

>

> Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted for me by couple of

> SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is time but I am not

> very confident about the prediction though.

>

> Thanks again!

> Murali

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > --------------------------

> > Dear Murali,

> > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as provided in the

> standard texts. I will add the comments from the viewpoint of

> Jyotish..

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > <m_muraly>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > >

> > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back in this column and

> > > helping out lost souls. There are certain questions always

> boiling me

> > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you gurus can shed some

> > > light on these.

> > > Also I am including my birth details because I am sincere in

> knowing

> > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus might verify from my

> > > birth chart.

> > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > >

> > > Here are the questions:

> > >

> > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want to play games with

> > > individual souls?

> > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM LEELA. LOOK AT A

> SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW THAT NARAYANA IS THE

> PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO CALL HIM BY

> DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA GUNA. JUPITER

> INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM (IF ANY) OF THE

> LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S OF BHAGAVAN.

> > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND CAUSE THIS CREATION

> TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG, THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED THEIR CREATION

> INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE RESIDES A SPARK OF

> LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY DOING WHAT IS HIS

> PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO VARIOUS PARTS AND

> FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

> DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

> WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

> DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CREATIONS..MEN

> 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> >

> > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand Maya?

> >

> > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUANITY TO

> CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH. THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST THAT THE "GATI" OF

> ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE REALISATION

> PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

> AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> >

> > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

> AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT WE ALL HAVE.

> INSPITE OF KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT WE SHALL ALL DIE ONE DAY, WE

> CONTINUE IN THE DEEP INNER FAITH THAT SOMEHOW WE SHALL BE THE 'CHOSEN

> LUCKY' ONES TO LIVE FOREVER. THIS FALSE SENCE IS LIKE THE DEMON OF

> UNTRUTH OR ASAT AND IS REPRESENTED BY THE ARUDHA LAGNA. THIS MAKES US

> FEEL BIG AND MIGHTYI.E. THE GREATER THE MAYA OF THE ARUDHA THE MORE

> THE MIGHTY FEELING. THUS, WHEN THE LAGNA (SATYA) ARRIVES IN THE

> ARUDHA LAGNA (OR ITS TRINES OR 7TH HOUSE OR THE SIGN OCCUPIED BY ITS

> LORD), THIS SENCE OF UNTRUTH IS DESTROYED AND DEATH OCCURS [RATH'S

> RULE SEE CRUX OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY].

> >

> > THUS THE EXISTENCE OF THE ATMA IN BODIES AND IN THIS MAYA IS

> NECESSARY FOR THE SELF REALISATION AND FOR THE LEARNING AND CLEANSING

> PROCESS.

> >

> > > 3> Why hasn't the great seers and Rishis never tried to stop Maya?

> > RATH: WHY SHOULD THEY? THE MAHARISHI'S UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS AND

> ARE IN PERFECT HARMONY WITH ALL THESE ACTS OF GOD KNOWING FULLY WELL

> THAT MAYA (IN THE SENCE OF WORLDLY ENJOYMENTS- A VERY RESTRICTED

> CONCEPT AS USED IN YOUR QUESTION) IS THERE TO HELP THE ATMA

> DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GOOD AND BAD AND THIS DIFFERENTIATION IS ALSO

> BORNE OUT OF THE ESSENTIAL INNER NATURE OF THE PREVAILING GUNA OF

> RAJAS WITHIN THE ATMA THAT HAS CAUSED ITS DIFFERENTIATION FROM THE

> PARAMATMA. IF THE ONENESS WITH GOD IS COMPLETE, THEN MOKSHA IS

> IMMINENT.

> >

> > > 4> If one gets Moksha does that mean he gets Moksha only for this

> > > Kalpa or only during the lifetime of this Brahma or for eternity?

> > RATH: THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF MOKSHA. EVEN BRAHMA IS CREATED

> FROM THE BODY OF NARAYANA AND HAS EVOLVED FROM THE RAJAS THAT

> PREVAILED FOR HIS CREATION. SO, BRAHMA GETS MOKSHA ONCE IN 100 BRAHMA

> YEARS AND ANOTHER BRAHMA IS CREATED AFTER THE NIGHT IS OVER FROM THE

> CYCLE OF TIME THAT CAUSES THE RAJAS TO PREVAIL TOWARDS THE END OF THE

> (BRAHMA PERIOD'S) NIGHT.

> >

> > > 5> Repeating GOD's name always works. There is a mystical power

> to

> > > the sound of God's name. Where can I get the knowledge of this

> > > mystical power in God's name? Where is that science and why does

> it

> > > work?

> > RATH: WHAT YOU SPEAK OF IS MANTRA SHASTRA. READ THIS CHAPTER VERY

> CAREFLLY FROM MY BOOK VEDIC REMEDIES IN ASTROLOGY. MAKE YOUR NOTES. I

> WILL BE GIVING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF ACHYUTA DASA VERY SOON MAYBE IN A

> MONTH OR TWO ON THIS. MANTRA SHASTRA IS THE SCIENCE. READ ABOUT EACH

> PHONEME, I WILL GIVE THE ORDER OF CREATION OF THE SYLLABLES AND THE

> SYLLABLES WITH LIFE ETC LATER.

> >

> > > I will come back with more questions if I get answers from SJVC

> gurus.

> > >

> > > Thanks a million!

> > >

> > > Murali

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

September 10, 2001

Om Krishna Guru,

Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

Attached is JHD lite.

Thanks!

Murali

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

--------------------------

> Dear Muruli,

> Add your jhd chart. What is the link between your

> 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> <m_muraly

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

>

> > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> >

> > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and

> Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > for asking related questions again. I am trying to

> understand. I also

> > feel like writing( expressing words in written

> form) always leaves

> > room for doubts as it does not give the intent

> completely. That's why

> > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday

> better than Smriti.

> >

> > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do

> except playing

> > games somehow does not seem right to me. Also

> going to Pt. Sanjay

> > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise

> to the

> > manifestation of this Universe - My question is

> why is the imbalance

> > created. In my experience a bad person could

> completely lose his Tamo

> > guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once

> gunas become

> > Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or

> Tamas. If NARAYANA is

> > completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are

> born out of him?

> > 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like

> Brahma is having the

> > greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though.

> But if I want to

> > be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

> > 3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why

> was Arjuna

> > previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot

> I have Krishna by

> > my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What

> is the procedure

> > and what is the guarantee that it is the right

> procedure?

> > 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I

> have all the books

> > of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward

> to the article that

> > Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its

> going to give a lot

> > more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial

> thing about Mantra

> > Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts

> birth time needs to

> > be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when

> the baby first cries

> > or when it touches the ground or when it is

> conceived?

> >

> > Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted

> for me by couple of

> > SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is

> time but I am not

> > very confident about the prediction though.

> >

> > Thanks again!

> > Murali

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> <srath@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

>

--------------------------

> > > Dear Murali,

> > > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as

> provided in the

> > standard texts. I will add the comments from the

> viewpoint of

> > Jyotish..

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -

> > > <m_muraly>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> > >

> > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > >

> > > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back

> in this column and

> > > > helping out lost souls. There are certain

> questions always

> > boiling me

> > > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you

> gurus can shed some

> > > > light on these.

> > > > Also I am including my birth details because I

> am sincere in

> > knowing

> > > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

> might verify from my

> > > > birth chart.

> > > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > > >

> > > > Here are the questions:

> > > >

> > > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want

> to play games with

> > > > individual souls?

> > > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM

> LEELA. LOOK AT A

> > SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW

> THAT NARAYANA IS THE

> > PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO

> CALL HIM BY

> > DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS

> THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> > DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA

> GUNA. JUPITER

> > INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM

> (IF ANY) OF THE

> > LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE

> DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S

> OF BHAGAVAN.

> > > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE

> PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> > RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND

> CAUSE THIS CREATION

> > TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG,

> THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> > SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED

> THEIR CREATION

> > INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE

> RESIDES A SPARK OF

> > LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY

> DOING WHAT IS HIS

> > PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO

> VARIOUS PARTS AND

> > FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF

> CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

> > DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS

> GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

> > WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS

> AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

> > DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

> OF CREATIONS..MEN

> > 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> > >

> > > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand

> Maya?

> > >

> > > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS

> DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> > ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN

> OPPORTUANITY TO

> > CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH.

> THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> > CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST

> THAT THE "GATI" OF

> > ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM

> GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> > BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR

> THE REALISATION

> > PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE

> DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> > (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE

> PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

> > AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE

> ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> > REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> > >

> > > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH

> THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

> > AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA

> CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> > IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT

> WE

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September 12, 2001

Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Murali,

So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is in Virgo and aspects the

seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of Vivekananda? Please do so

first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some points to ponder:

1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do such people marry at all? If so

then the Moon must be strong to sustain the marriage. My own elder brother

has ketu in 2nd from UL.

2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its transit in Gemini, this should be

the right time for a long lasting marriage.

3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya Narayana.

5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for spiritual;ity...................

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

Murali Murthy <m_muraly

Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> Om Krishna Guru,

> Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> Attached is JHD lite.

>

> Thanks!

> Murali

>

> --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> --------------------------

> > Dear Muruli,

> > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between your

> > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > <m_muraly

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > >

> > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and

> > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > for asking related questions again. I am trying to

> > understand. I also

> > > feel like writing( expressing words in written

> > form) always leaves

> > > room for doubts as it does not give the intent

> > completely. That's why

> > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday

> > better than Smriti.

> > >

> > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do

> > except playing

> > > games somehow does not seem right to me. Also

> > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise

> > to the

> > > manifestation of this Universe - My question is

> > why is the imbalance

> > > created. In my experience a bad person could

> > completely lose his Tamo

> > > guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once

> > gunas become

> > > Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or

> > Tamas. If NARAYANA is

> > > completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are

> > born out of him?

> > > 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like

> > Brahma is having the

> > > greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though.

> > But if I want to

> > > be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

> > > 3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why

> > was Arjuna

> > > previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot

> > I have Krishna by

> > > my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What

> > is the procedure

> > > and what is the guarantee that it is the right

> > procedure?

> > > 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I

> > have all the books

> > > of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward

> > to the article that

> > > Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its

> > going to give a lot

> > > more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial

> > thing about Mantra

> > > Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts

> > birth time needs to

> > > be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when

> > the baby first cries

> > > or when it touches the ground or when it is

> > conceived?

> > >

> > > Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted

> > for me by couple of

> > > SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is

> > time but I am not

> > > very confident about the prediction though.

> > >

> > > Thanks again!

> > > Murali

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> >

> --------------------------

> > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as

> > provided in the

> > > standard texts. I will add the comments from the

> > viewpoint of

> > > Jyotish..

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > -

> > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> > > >

> > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back

> > in this column and

> > > > > helping out lost souls. There are certain

> > questions always

> > > boiling me

> > > > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you

> > gurus can shed some

> > > > > light on these.

> > > > > Also I am including my birth details because I

> > am sincere in

> > > knowing

> > > > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

> > might verify from my

> > > > > birth chart.

> > > > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > > > >

> > > > > Here are the questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want

> > to play games with

> > > > > individual souls?

> > > > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM

> > LEELA. LOOK AT A

> > > SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW

> > THAT NARAYANA IS THE

> > > PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO

> > CALL HIM BY

> > > DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS

> > THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> > > DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA

> > GUNA. JUPITER

> > > INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > (IF ANY) OF THE

> > > LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE

> > DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > > AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S

> > OF BHAGAVAN.

> > > > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE

> > PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> > > RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND

> > CAUSE THIS CREATION

> > > TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG,

> > THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> > > SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED

> > THEIR CREATION

> > > INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE

> > RESIDES A SPARK OF

> > > LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > > > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY

> > DOING WHAT IS HIS

> > > PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO

> > VARIOUS PARTS AND

> > > FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF

> > CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

> > > DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS

> > GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

> > > WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS

> > AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

> > > DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

> > OF CREATIONS..MEN

> > > 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> > > >

> > > > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand

> > Maya?

> > > >

> > > > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS

> > DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> > > ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN

> > OPPORTUANITY TO

> > > CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH.

> > THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> > > CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST

> > THAT THE "GATI" OF

> > > ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM

> > GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> > > BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR

> > THE REALISATION

> > > PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE

> > DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> > > (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE

> > PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

> > > AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE

> > ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> > > REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > > > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> > > >

> > > > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH

> > THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

> > > AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA

> > CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> > > IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT

> > WE

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September 14, 2001

Om Krishna Guru,

Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope from COVA.

Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is in Leo and UL in

Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa position is not good

for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL - should indicate

bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know his life details

though.Coming back to my chart - I have RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL exalted.AL/A7 are

together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know what you had in mind

Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart later..

1> Is your elder brother married and how is his married life?

Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad significator for marriage)

is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the marriage- Right?

2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT is marriage time -

lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa, JUP transit over

Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has happened so far.My

problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or I will stay

unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more spiritual and can stay

single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.). Pressure from

parents and family members are tremendous though.

3> Regarding fasting -

I recite the following mantras daily -

a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

SWAHA" 108

d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan sloka,Narasimha

sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have been doing since my

childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin family you

automatically pick up these..

Also before reciting these mantras I will start with GURU mantra

" GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA GURU SAAKSHAT

PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then followed by the

respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras like VYAM

VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and got attached to

other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these unless initiated

by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one mantra.

Well these recitations have given me inner faith and peace and I do

consider life as just a souls' journey and I can feel it. I have

something in mind but I don't know I will be able to achieve it or

not.

Now that you know panditji about me please comment on my chart.

Thanks and Regards,

Murali

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> --------------------------

> Dear Murali,

> So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is in Virgo and

aspects the

> seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of Vivekananda? Please

do so

> first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some points to ponder:

> 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do such people marry at

all? If so

> then the Moon must be strong to sustain the marriage. My own elder

brother

> has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its transit in Gemini, this

should be

> the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya Narayana.

> 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for spiritual;ity...................

>

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> <vedic astrology>

> Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

>

> > Om Krishna Guru,

> > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > Attached is JHD lite.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Murali

> >

> > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > --------------------------

> > > Dear Muruli,

> > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between your

> > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -

> > > <m_muraly>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> > >

> > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > >

> > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and

> > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > for asking related questions again. I am trying to

> > > understand. I also

> > > > feel like writing( expressing words in written

> > > form) always leaves

> > > > room for doubts as it does not give the intent

> > > completely. That's why

> > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday

> > > better than Smriti.

> > > >

> > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do

> > > except playing

> > > > games somehow does not seem right to me. Also

> > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise

> > > to the

> > > > manifestation of this Universe - My question is

> > > why is the imbalance

> > > > created. In my experience a bad person could

> > > completely lose his Tamo

> > > > guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once

> > > gunas become

> > > > Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or

> > > Tamas. If NARAYANA is

> > > > completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are

> > > born out of him?

> > > > 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like

> > > Brahma is having the

> > > > greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though.

> > > But if I want to

> > > > be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

> > > > 3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why

> > > was Arjuna

> > > > previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot

> > > I have Krishna by

> > > > my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What

> > > is the procedure

> > > > and what is the guarantee that it is the right

> > > procedure?

> > > > 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I

> > > have all the books

> > > > of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward

> > > to the article that

> > > > Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its

> > > going to give a lot

> > > > more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial

> > > thing about Mantra

> > > > Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts

> > > birth time needs to

> > > > be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when

> > > the baby first cries

> > > > or when it touches the ground or when it is

> > > conceived?

> > > >

> > > > Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted

> > > for me by couple of

> > > > SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is

> > > time but I am not

> > > > very confident about the prediction though.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again!

> > > > Murali

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > >

> > --------------------------

> > > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as

> > > provided in the

> > > > standard texts. I will add the comments from the

> > > viewpoint of

> > > > Jyotish..

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > -

> > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > > > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back

> > > in this column and

> > > > > > helping out lost souls. There are certain

> > > questions always

> > > > boiling me

> > > > > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you

> > > gurus can shed some

> > > > > > light on these.

> > > > > > Also I am including my birth details because I

> > > am sincere in

> > > > knowing

> > > > > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

> > > might verify from my

> > > > > > birth chart.

> > > > > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > > > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > > > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here are the questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want

> > > to play games with

> > > > > > individual souls?

> > > > > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM

> > > LEELA. LOOK AT A

> > > > SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW

> > > THAT NARAYANA IS THE

> > > > PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO

> > > CALL HIM BY

> > > > DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS

> > > THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> > > > DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA

> > > GUNA. JUPITER

> > > > INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > > (IF ANY) OF THE

> > > > LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE

> > > DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > > > AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S

> > > OF BHAGAVAN.

> > > > > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE

> > > PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> > > > RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND

> > > CAUSE THIS CREATION

> > > > TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG,

> > > THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> > > > SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED

> > > THEIR CREATION

> > > > INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE

> > > RESIDES A SPARK OF

> > > > LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > > > > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY

> > > DOING WHAT IS HIS

> > > > PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO

> > > VARIOUS PARTS AND

> > > > FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF

> > > CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

> > > > DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS

> > > GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

> > > > WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS

> > > AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

> > > > DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

> > > OF CREATIONS..MEN

> > > > 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> > > > >

> > > > > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand

> > > Maya?

> > > > >

> > > > > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS

> > > DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> > > > ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN

> > > OPPORTUANITY TO

> > > > CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH.

> > > THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> > > > CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST

> > > THAT THE "GATI" OF

> > > > ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM

> > > GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> > > > BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR

> > > THE REALISATION

> > > > PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE

> > > DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> > > > (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE

> > > PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

> > > > AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE

> > > ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> > > > REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > > > > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> > > > >

> > > > > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH

> > > THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

> > > > AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA

> > > CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> > > > IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT

> > > WE

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September 14, 2001

Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Muruli,

Please first find out what happened to Vivekananda's marriage.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

<m_muraly

Friday, September 14, 2001 9:27 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> Om Krishna Guru,

> Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

> I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope from COVA.

> Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is in Leo and UL in

> Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa position is not good

> for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL - should indicate

> bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know his life details

> though.Coming back to my chart - I have RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

> 7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL exalted.AL/A7 are

> together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know what you had in mind

> Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart later..

> 1> Is your elder brother married and how is his married life?

> Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad significator for marriage)

> is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the marriage- Right?

> 2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT is marriage time -

> lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa, JUP transit over

> Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has happened so far.My

> problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or I will stay

> unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more spiritual and can stay

> single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.). Pressure from

> parents and family members are tremendous though.

> 3> Regarding fasting -

> I recite the following mantras daily -

> a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

> b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

> c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

> SWAHA" 108

> d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

> e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

> f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

> g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

> Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

> h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan sloka,Narasimha

> sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have been doing since my

> childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin family you

> automatically pick up these..

>

> Also before reciting these mantras I will start with GURU mantra

> " GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA GURU SAAKSHAT

> PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then followed by the

> respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras like VYAM

> VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

> I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and got attached to

> other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these unless initiated

> by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one mantra.

>

> Well these recitations have given me inner faith and peace and I do

> consider life as just a souls' journey and I can feel it. I have

> something in mind but I don't know I will be able to achieve it or

> not.

>

> Now that you know panditji about me please comment on my chart.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Murali

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > --------------------------

> > Dear Murali,

> > So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is in Virgo and

> aspects the

> > seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of Vivekananda? Please

> do so

> > first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some points to ponder:

> > 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do such people marry at

> all? If so

> > then the Moon must be strong to sustain the marriage. My own elder

> brother

> > has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> > 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its transit in Gemini, this

> should be

> > the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> > 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> > 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya Narayana.

> > 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for spiritual;ity...................

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > > Attached is JHD lite.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > > Murali

> > >

> > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > --------------------------

> > > > Dear Muruli,

> > > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between your

> > > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > -

> > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> > > >

> > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath and

> > > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > > for asking related questions again. I am trying to

> > > > understand. I also

> > > > > feel like writing( expressing words in written

> > > > form) always leaves

> > > > > room for doubts as it does not give the intent

> > > > completely. That's why

> > > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is anyday

> > > > better than Smriti.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would Bhagvan do

> > > > except playing

> > > > > games somehow does not seem right to me. Also

> > > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas gives rise

> > > > to the

> > > > > manifestation of this Universe - My question is

> > > > why is the imbalance

> > > > > created. In my experience a bad person could

> > > > completely lose his Tamo

> > > > > guna and become Satvik ( like Valmiki etc).So once

> > > > gunas become

> > > > > Satvik they would not revert back to Rajas or

> > > > Tamas. If NARAYANA is

> > > > > completely Satvik how come Rajas and Tamas are

> > > > born out of him?

> > > > > 2> Brahma's divisibility is MAYA. It seems like

> > > > Brahma is having the

> > > > > greatest fun of all. Nothing wrong with it though.

> > > > But if I want to

> > > > > be outside of Brahma's realm what do I need to do?

> > > > > 3> Why is it difficult for me to talk to God? Why

> > > > was Arjuna

> > > > > previleged to have Krishna by his side. Why cannot

> > > > I have Krishna by

> > > > > my side? Basically I want to disolve myself. What

> > > > is the procedure

> > > > > and what is the guarantee that it is the right

> > > > procedure?

> > > > > 4> Getting back to Jyotish and Mantra Shastra - I

> > > > have all the books

> > > > > of Pt. Sanjay Rath. I am already looking forward

> > > > to the article that

> > > > > Pt. Sanjay Rath is going to write.I am sure its

> > > > going to give a lot

> > > > > more details about Mantra shastra. The crucial

> > > > thing about Mantra

> > > > > Shastra is that when we get to divisional charts

> > > > birth time needs to

> > > > > be accurate. What constitutes birth time - when

> > > > the baby first cries

> > > > > or when it touches the ground or when it is

> > > > conceived?

> > > > >

> > > > > Question about my chart - Wedding was predicted

> > > > for me by couple of

> > > > > SJVC gurus by September this year. Still there is

> > > > time but I am not

> > > > > very confident about the prediction though.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks again!

> > > > > Murali

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > > > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > --------------------------

> > > > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > > > Gauranga has given you the spiritual answer as

> > > > provided in the

> > > > > standard texts. I will add the comments from the

> > > > viewpoint of

> > > > > Jyotish..

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:58 PM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Basic Questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste to all SJVC gurus,

> > > > > > > I am delighted to see Pt. Sanjay Rath is back

> > > > in this column and

> > > > > > > helping out lost souls. There are certain

> > > > questions always

> > > > > boiling me

> > > > > > > from inside and I would appreciate if all you

> > > > gurus can shed some

> > > > > > > light on these.

> > > > > > > Also I am including my birth details because I

> > > > am sincere in

> > > > > knowing

> > > > > > > answers to these questions which SJVC gurus

> > > > might verify from my

> > > > > > > birth chart.

> > > > > > > DOB - May 8, 1968

> > > > > > > TOB - 21:37 hrs ( 9:37 PM - IST)

> > > > > > > POB - LAT 10 deg N 58min / LONG 79 deg E 23min

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here are the questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1> Why does the Brahman ( the Absoulute) want

> > > > to play games with

> > > > > > > individual souls?

> > > > > > RATH: GAMES IS A POOR TRANSLATION OF THE TERM

> > > > LEELA. LOOK AT A

> > > > > SIMPLE CONCEPT OF UNITY OF GODHEAD. WE ALL KNOW

> > > > THAT NARAYANA IS THE

> > > > > PENULTIMATE UNDIVIDED FORM OF GOD, YET WE LIKE TO

> > > > CALL HIM BY

> > > > > DIFFERENT NAMES. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, OR WHY HAS

> > > > THIS HAPPENED? THIS

> > > > > DIFFERENTIATION IS CAUSED BY RAJAS AND NOT SATWA

> > > > GUNA. JUPITER

> > > > > INDICATES SATWA GUNA AND THE UNDIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > > > (IF ANY) OF THE

> > > > > LORD WHEREAS MERCURY OF RAJAS GUNA INDICATES THE

> > > > DIFFERENTIATED FORM

> > > > > AND LEADS TO THE WORSHIP OF THE VARIOUS AVATAR'S

> > > > OF BHAGAVAN.

> > > > > > BRAHMA HIMSELF IS CREATED AND IT IS THE

> > > > PREDOMINANT NATURE OF HIS

> > > > > RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSES HIM TO DIVIDE HIMSELF AND

> > > > CAUSE THIS CREATION

> > > > > TO SEEM SO DIFFERENT. LOOK AT MAN AND SAY A DOG,

> > > > THEY ARE SEEMINGLY

> > > > > SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE RAJAS GUNA THAT CAUSED

> > > > THEIR CREATION

> > > > > INTO DIFFERENT FORMS, YET WE KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE

> > > > RESIDES A SPARK OF

> > > > > LIFE IN THEM CALLED THE ATMA THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.

> > > > > > THUS, BRAHMA IS NOT PLAYING GAMES, HE IS ONLY

> > > > DOING WHAT IS HIS

> > > > > PREDOMINANT NATURE TO DO I.E. DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO

> > > > VARIOUS PARTS AND

> > > > > FORMS AND FINALLY LIKE ALL OTHER PARTS OF

> > > > CREATION, HE TOO SHALL BE

> > > > > DISSOLVED. THUS THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS RAJAS

> > > > GUNA WHICH LEADS TO

> > > > > WEALTH AND PROSPERITY AND CREATES SO MANY THINGS

> > > > AND BEINGS SHALL ONE

> > > > > DAY END. THIS END IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES

> > > > OF CREATIONS..MEN

> > > > > 120 YEARS MAX, ELEPHANTS 360 YEARS AND SO ON.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2> Why is Maya created? How can I understand

> > > > Maya?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LIKA ALL OTHER PARTS OF BRAHMA IN HIS

> > > > DIFFERENTIATED FORM, MAYA IS

> > > > > ALSO CREATED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ATMAS TO HAVE AN

> > > > OPPORTUANITY TO

> > > > > CLEANSE THEMSELVES BY REALISING THE HIGHER TRUTH.

> > > > THAT IS WHY MAYA IS

> > > > > CALLED THE DIVINE MOTHER AND IT IS AT HER BEHEST

> > > > THAT THE "GATI" OF

> > > > > ALL BEINGS IS DETERMINED. SANKARA SAYS 'GATISTWAM

> > > > GATI STWAM TWAM EKA

> > > > > BHAVANI". IT IS THIS GATI THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR

> > > > THE REALISATION

> > > > > PROCESS. WITHOUT PROPER GATI NONE OF THE

> > > > DIFFERENTIATED ATMA'S

> > > > > (SPARKS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE

> > > > PARAMATMA DUE TO THEIR

> > > > > AQUIRING MORE OF RAJAS OR TAMAS GUNA) WILL EVER BE

> > > > ABLE TO HAVE SELF

> > > > > REALISATION OR PERCEIVE THE IMPERCEPTIBLE TRUTH.

> > > > > > THUS, MAYA IS THE GREAT MOTHER MAHAMAYI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IN JYOTISH, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAYA THROUGH

> > > > THE ARUDHA PADA. AS

> > > > > AN EXAMPLE LET US TAKE THE LAGNA PADA. HERE, MAYA

> > > > CAN BE A DEMON WHEN

> > > > > IT COMES TO THE FALSE SENCE OF PERPETUAL LIFE THAT

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September 16, 2001

Dear All

Swami vivekananda had chandra & ketu In meena ,Hence

was strong & was good orator,Genrally Great saints

like Ramana Maharashi,Will have kuja In 7 house...

only For simha lagna it is exceptional......

will lead life of perfect Bramhacharya........

maharishi Vashista son is sakthi ,Sakthi son is

parashara ,Parashara maharishi son is Vyasa,Veda Vyasa

son is Suka ..Suka's student is jamini ...among them

maharishi Parashara is agood astrologer ..

In Vishnusashranamam Veda Vyssya is addressed as Maha

Rishi ...........

Best Regards

Srinagesh

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

--------------------------

> Dear Muruli,

> Please first find out what happened to Vivekananda's

> marriage.

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> <m_muraly

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, September 14, 2001 9:27 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

>

> > Om Krishna Guru,

> > Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

> > I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope

> from COVA.

> > Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is

> in Leo and UL in

> > Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa

> position is not good

> > for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL

> - should indicate

> > bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know

> his life details

> > though.Coming back to my chart - I have

> RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

> > 7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL

> exalted.AL/A7 are

> > together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know

> what you had in mind

> > Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart

> later..

> > 1> Is your elder brother married and how is his

> married life?

> > Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad

> significator for marriage)

> > is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the

> marriage- Right?

> > 2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT

> is marriage time -

> > lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa,

> JUP transit over

> > Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has

> happened so far.My

> > problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or

> I will stay

> > unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more

> spiritual and can stay

> > single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.).

> Pressure from

> > parents and family members are tremendous though.

> > 3> Regarding fasting -

> > I recite the following mantras daily -

> > a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

> > b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

> > c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA

> GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

> > SWAHA" 108

> > d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

> > e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

> > f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

> > g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

> > Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

> > h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan

> sloka,Narasimha

> > sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have

> been doing since my

> > childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin

> family you

> > automatically pick up these..

> >

> > Also before reciting these mantras I will start

> with GURU mantra

> > " GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA

> GURU SAAKSHAT

> > PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then

> followed by the

> > respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras

> like VYAM

> > VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

> > I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and

> got attached to

> > other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these

> unless initiated

> > by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one

> mantra.

> >

> > Well these recitations have given me inner faith

> and peace and I do

> > consider life as just a souls' journey and I can

> feel it. I have

> > something in mind but I don't know I will be able

> to achieve it or

> > not.

> >

> > Now that you know panditji about me please comment

> on my chart.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Murali

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> <srath@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

>

--------------------------

> > > Dear Murali,

> > > So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is

> in Virgo and

> > aspects the

> > > seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of

> Vivekananda? Please

> > do so

> > > first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some

> points to ponder:

> > > 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do

> such people marry at

> > all? If so

> > > then the Moon must be strong to sustain the

> marriage. My own elder

> > brother

> > > has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> > > 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its

> transit in Gemini, this

> > should be

> > > the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> > > 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> > > 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya

> Narayana.

> > > 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for

> spiritual;ity...................

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -

> > > Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> Questions

> > >

> > > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > > > Attached is JHD lite.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > > Murali

> > > >

> > > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > >

>

--------------------------

> > > > > Dear Muruli,

> > > > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between

> your

> > > > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > -

> > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> Questions

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath

> and

> > > > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > > > for asking related questions again. I am

> trying to

> > > > > understand. I also

> > > > > > feel like writing( expressing words in

> written

> > > > > form) always leaves

> > > > > > room for doubts as it does not give the

> intent

> > > > > completely. That's why

> > > > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is

> anyday

> > > > > better than Smriti.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would

> Bhagvan do

> > > > > except playing

> > > > > > games somehow does not seem right to me.

> Also

> > > > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas

> gives rise

>

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September 17, 2001

Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Srinagesh,

Excellent, now you are one of the few who really appreciate the value of

this Parampara and the fact that Jaimini was only teaching the same thing as

Parasara.

Secondly, Vivekanada's Moon is in Virgo..

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999

Monday, September 17, 2001 12:22 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> Dear All

>

> Swami vivekananda had chandra & ketu In meena ,Hence

> was strong & was good orator,Genrally Great saints

> like Ramana Maharashi,Will have kuja In 7 house...

> only For simha lagna it is exceptional......

> will lead life of perfect Bramhacharya........

> maharishi Vashista son is sakthi ,Sakthi son is

> parashara ,Parashara maharishi son is Vyasa,Veda Vyasa

> son is Suka ..Suka's student is jamini ...among them

> maharishi Parashara is agood astrologer ..

> In Vishnusashranamam Veda Vyssya is addressed as Maha

> Rishi ...........

>

> Best Regards

> Srinagesh

>

> --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> --------------------------

> > Dear Muruli,

> > Please first find out what happened to Vivekananda's

> > marriage.

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > <m_muraly

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, September 14, 2001 9:27 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

> > > I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope

> > from COVA.

> > > Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is

> > in Leo and UL in

> > > Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa

> > position is not good

> > > for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL

> > - should indicate

> > > bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know

> > his life details

> > > though.Coming back to my chart - I have

> > RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

> > > 7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL

> > exalted.AL/A7 are

> > > together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know

> > what you had in mind

> > > Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart

> > later..

> > > 1> Is your elder brother married and how is his

> > married life?

> > > Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad

> > significator for marriage)

> > > is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the

> > marriage- Right?

> > > 2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT

> > is marriage time -

> > > lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa,

> > JUP transit over

> > > Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has

> > happened so far.My

> > > problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or

> > I will stay

> > > unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more

> > spiritual and can stay

> > > single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.).

> > Pressure from

> > > parents and family members are tremendous though.

> > > 3> Regarding fasting -

> > > I recite the following mantras daily -

> > > a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

> > > b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

> > > c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA

> > GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

> > > SWAHA" 108

> > > d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

> > > e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

> > > f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

> > > g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

> > > Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

> > > h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan

> > sloka,Narasimha

> > > sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have

> > been doing since my

> > > childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin

> > family you

> > > automatically pick up these..

> > >

> > > Also before reciting these mantras I will start

> > with GURU mantra

> > > " GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA

> > GURU SAAKSHAT

> > > PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then

> > followed by the

> > > respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras

> > like VYAM

> > > VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

> > > I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and

> > got attached to

> > > other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these

> > unless initiated

> > > by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one

> > mantra.

> > >

> > > Well these recitations have given me inner faith

> > and peace and I do

> > > consider life as just a souls' journey and I can

> > feel it. I have

> > > something in mind but I don't know I will be able

> > to achieve it or

> > > not.

> > >

> > > Now that you know panditji about me please comment

> > on my chart.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Murali

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> >

> --------------------------

> > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is

> > in Virgo and

> > > aspects the

> > > > seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of

> > Vivekananda? Please

> > > do so

> > > > first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some

> > points to ponder:

> > > > 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do

> > such people marry at

> > > all? If so

> > > > then the Moon must be strong to sustain the

> > marriage. My own elder

> > > brother

> > > > has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> > > > 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its

> > transit in Gemini, this

> > > should be

> > > > the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> > > > 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> > > > 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya

> > Narayana.

> > > > 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for

> > spiritual;ity...................

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > -

> > > > Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > Questions

> > > >

> > > > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > > > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > > > > Attached is JHD lite.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > Murali

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> --------------------------

> > > > > > Dear Muruli,

> > > > > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between

> > your

> > > > > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > > > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > Questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath

> > and

> > > > > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > > > > for asking related questions again. I am

> > trying to

> > > > > > understand. I also

> > > > > > > feel like writing( expressing words in

> > written

> > > > > > form) always leaves

> > > > > > > room for doubts as it does not give the

> > intent

> > > > > > completely. That's why

> > > > > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is

> > anyday

> > > > > > better than Smriti.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would

> > Bhagvan do

> > > > > > except playing

> > > > > > > games somehow does not seem right to me.

> > Also

> > > > > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas

> > gives rise

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

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> Your use of is subject to

>

September 17, 2001

OM Krishna Guru!

Namaste Pt. Rath Ji & others who have pitched in for comments:

I have read all about Vivekananda - his views about women and how it

changed after going to America and how it reverted back to Bengali

Hindu views. Also I know he stayed away from marriage.

Let me thank everyone who has helped me all throughout this thread.I

have diverted a lot from my original questions which are basic in

nature. The only reason for this diversion is because I gave my

horoscope for analysis two years ago to SJVC gurus and they predicted

something which hasn't happened yet. I am not blaming anyone here -

please. I am just trying to discover myself and thru. my medium want

to experience the Absolute. I just have not found the way yet.I am

positive I will find it one day. I am very humble enough to admit

that even after applying all the rules and analyzing meticulously we

are not able to predict correctly - only GOD knows why. And still

other times we find people who have crossed the ocean of MAYA and

consider it as just a bucket of water.I need to find someone who has

done this and could help me.

Thanks!

Murali

vedic astrology, vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999>

wrote:

> Dear All

>

> Swami vivekananda had chandra & ketu In meena ,Hence

> was strong & was good orator,Genrally Great saints

> like Ramana Maharashi,Will have kuja In 7 house...

> only For simha lagna it is exceptional......

> will lead life of perfect Bramhacharya........

> maharishi Vashista son is sakthi ,Sakthi son is

> parashara ,Parashara maharishi son is Vyasa,Veda Vyasa

> son is Suka ..Suka's student is jamini ...among them

> maharishi Parashara is agood astrologer ..

> In Vishnusashranamam Veda Vyssya is addressed as Maha

> Rishi ...........

>

> Best Regards

> Srinagesh

>

> --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> --------------------------

> > Dear Muruli,

> > Please first find out what happened to Vivekananda's

> > marriage.

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > <m_muraly>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, September 14, 2001 9:27 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> >

> > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

> > > I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope

> > from COVA.

> > > Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is

> > in Leo and UL in

> > > Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa

> > position is not good

> > > for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL

> > - should indicate

> > > bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know

> > his life details

> > > though.Coming back to my chart - I have

> > RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

> > > 7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL

> > exalted.AL/A7 are

> > > together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know

> > what you had in mind

> > > Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart

> > later..

> > > 1> Is your elder brother married and how is his

> > married life?

> > > Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad

> > significator for marriage)

> > > is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the

> > marriage- Right?

> > > 2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT

> > is marriage time -

> > > lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa,

> > JUP transit over

> > > Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has

> > happened so far.My

> > > problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or

> > I will stay

> > > unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more

> > spiritual and can stay

> > > single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.).

> > Pressure from

> > > parents and family members are tremendous though.

> > > 3> Regarding fasting -

> > > I recite the following mantras daily -

> > > a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

> > > b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

> > > c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA

> > GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

> > > SWAHA" 108

> > > d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

> > > e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

> > > f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

> > > g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

> > > Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

> > > h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan

> > sloka,Narasimha

> > > sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have

> > been doing since my

> > > childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin

> > family you

> > > automatically pick up these..

> > >

> > > Also before reciting these mantras I will start

> > with GURU mantra

> > > " GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA

> > GURU SAAKSHAT

> > > PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then

> > followed by the

> > > respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras

> > like VYAM

> > > VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

> > > I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and

> > got attached to

> > > other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these

> > unless initiated

> > > by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one

> > mantra.

> > >

> > > Well these recitations have given me inner faith

> > and peace and I do

> > > consider life as just a souls' journey and I can

> > feel it. I have

> > > something in mind but I don't know I will be able

> > to achieve it or

> > > not.

> > >

> > > Now that you know panditji about me please comment

> > on my chart.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Murali

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> >

> --------------------------

> > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is

> > in Virgo and

> > > aspects the

> > > > seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of

> > Vivekananda? Please

> > > do so

> > > > first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some

> > points to ponder:

> > > > 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do

> > such people marry at

> > > all? If so

> > > > then the Moon must be strong to sustain the

> > marriage. My own elder

> > > brother

> > > > has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> > > > 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its

> > transit in Gemini, this

> > > should be

> > > > the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> > > > 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> > > > 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya

> > Narayana.

> > > > 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for

> > spiritual;ity...................

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > -

> > > > Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > Questions

> > > >

> > > > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > > > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > > > > Attached is JHD lite.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > Murali

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> --------------------------

> > > > > > Dear Muruli,

> > > > > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between

> > your

> > > > > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > > > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > Questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath

> > and

> > > > > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > > > > for asking related questions again. I am

> > trying to

> > > > > > understand. I also

> > > > > > > feel like writing( expressing words in

> > written

> > > > > > form) always leaves

> > > > > > > room for doubts as it does not give the

> > intent

> > > > > > completely. That's why

> > > > > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is

> > anyday

> > > > > > better than Smriti.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would

> > Bhagvan do

> > > > > > except playing

> > > > > > > games somehow does not seem right to me.

> > Also

> > > > > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas

> > gives rise

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

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Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Murali,

Hope is what they gave to you..

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

<m_muraly

Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:24 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> OM Krishna Guru!

> Namaste Pt. Rath Ji & others who have pitched in for comments:

>

> I have read all about Vivekananda - his views about women and how it

> changed after going to America and how it reverted back to Bengali

> Hindu views. Also I know he stayed away from marriage.

>

> Let me thank everyone who has helped me all throughout this thread.I

> have diverted a lot from my original questions which are basic in

> nature. The only reason for this diversion is because I gave my

> horoscope for analysis two years ago to SJVC gurus and they predicted

> something which hasn't happened yet. I am not blaming anyone here -

> please. I am just trying to discover myself and thru. my medium want

> to experience the Absolute. I just have not found the way yet.I am

> positive I will find it one day. I am very humble enough to admit

> that even after applying all the rules and analyzing meticulously we

> are not able to predict correctly - only GOD knows why. And still

> other times we find people who have crossed the ocean of MAYA and

> consider it as just a bucket of water.I need to find someone who has

> done this and could help me.

>

> Thanks!

> Murali

> vedic astrology, vankateshwara srinagesh <sri999>

> wrote:

> > Dear All

> >

> > Swami vivekananda had chandra & ketu In meena ,Hence

> > was strong & was good orator,Genrally Great saints

> > like Ramana Maharashi,Will have kuja In 7 house...

> > only For simha lagna it is exceptional......

> > will lead life of perfect Bramhacharya........

> > maharishi Vashista son is sakthi ,Sakthi son is

> > parashara ,Parashara maharishi son is Vyasa,Veda Vyasa

> > son is Suka ..Suka's student is jamini ...among them

> > maharishi Parashara is agood astrologer ..

> > In Vishnusashranamam Veda Vyssya is addressed as Maha

> > Rishi ...........

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Srinagesh

> >

> > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > --------------------------

> > > Dear Muruli,

> > > Please first find out what happened to Vivekananda's

> > > marriage.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -

> > > <m_muraly>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, September 14, 2001 9:27 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Questions

> > >

> > > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > > Namaste Pt. Rath Ji,

> > > > I took a look at Swami Vivekananda's horsoscope

> > > from COVA.

> > > > Swami has Dhanur lagna with AK Sun in it.His AL is

> > > in Leo and UL in

> > > > Virgo with SAT/Moon there. AL/UL in dwirdamsa

> > > position is not good

> > > > for marital ife anyway. He has Jup in 2nd from UL

> > > - should indicate

> > > > bickering spouse but long marriage. I don't know

> > > his life details

> > > > though.Coming back to my chart - I have

> > > RAH/SAT/MOON/KETU aspecting

> > > > 7th house - very bad.But UL has Jup and lord of UL

> > > exalted.AL/A7 are

> > > > together and AL/UL are in trines.I want to know

> > > what you had in mind

> > > > Panditji when you said lets discuss this chart

> > > later..

> > > > 1> Is your elder brother married and how is his

> > > married life?

> > > > Im my chart Moon DK with Ketu ( not a bad

> > > significator for marriage)

> > > > is 2nd from UL affecting the longevity of the

> > > marriage- Right?

> > > > 2> SJVC gurus had predicted earlier that SEP/OCT

> > > is marriage time -

> > > > lot of factors involved - Navamsa Narayana dasa,

> > > JUP transit over

> > > > Gemini aspecting 2nd from UL etc. Nothing has

> > > happened so far.My

> > > > problem is - I will marry someone of my choice or

> > > I will stay

> > > > unmarried.Of late I am becoming more and more

> > > spiritual and can stay

> > > > single ( the faith in GOD is carrying me thru.).

> > > Pressure from

> > > > parents and family members are tremendous though.

> > > > 3> Regarding fasting -

> > > > I recite the following mantras daily -

> > > > a> Ganapati - "OM GAM GANAPATYE NAMAH " (108)

> > > > b> "KLIM HRISHIKESHAYA NAMAH" 108

> > > > c> Kaam Gayatri - "KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDYA

> > > GOPIJANA VALLABHAYA

> > > > SWAHA" 108

> > > > d> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA (108)

> > > > e> Mritunjay mantra (108)

> > > > f> Lakshmi sloka ( Indra uvacha) 3 times

> > > > g> Planetery mantras ( 12 for each palnet)

> > > > Vedvyasa's JAPAKUSUM... etc

> > > > h> Parvati sloka,Saraswati sloka, Sudharshan

> > > sloka,Narasimha

> > > > sloka, ONe liner Vishnu sloka etc... These I have

> > > been doing since my

> > > > childhood days and being born in a Tamil Brahmin

> > > family you

> > > > automatically pick up these..

> > > >

> > > > Also before reciting these mantras I will start

> > > with GURU mantra

> > > > " GURU BRAHMA GURU VISHNU GURU DEVO MAHESHWARA

> > > GURU SAAKSHAT

> > > > PARABRAHMA TASMAYE SHREE GURUVE NAMAHA" and then

> > > followed by the

> > > > respective rishi salutation who gave these mantras

> > > like VYAM

> > > > VYASDEVAY NAMAH, VYAM VASHISTAYA NAMAH etc.

> > > > I started plantery mantras about 7 years ago and

> > > got attached to

> > > > other mantras on the way.I cannot stop doing these

> > > unless initiated

> > > > by a GURU and then I can concentrate only on one

> > > mantra.

> > > >

> > > > Well these recitations have given me inner faith

> > > and peace and I do

> > > > consider life as just a souls' journey and I can

> > > feel it. I have

> > > > something in mind but I don't know I will be able

> > > to achieve it or

> > > > not.

> > > >

> > > > Now that you know panditji about me please comment

> > > on my chart.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > Murali

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

> > > <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > >

> > --------------------------

> > > > > Dear Murali,

> > > > > So, my guess was right. Moon the eighth Lord is

> > > in Virgo and

> > > > aspects the

> > > > > seventh house Gemini. ever studied the chart of

> > > Vivekananda? Please

> > > > do so

> > > > > first and then we shall discuss your chart. Some

> > > points to ponder:

> > > > > 1. Ketu Plus Moon in second from upapada. Do

> > > such people marry at

> > > > all? If so

> > > > > then the Moon must be strong to sustain the

> > > marriage. My own elder

> > > > brother

> > > > > has ketu in 2nd from UL.

> > > > > 2. Now that Jupiter aspects Virgo from its

> > > transit in Gemini, this

> > > > should be

> > > > > the right time for a long lasting marriage.

> > > > > 3. How many Sundays have you fasted?

> > > > > 4. Jupiter rises with the Upapada. Worship satya

> > > Narayana.

> > > > > 5. Rahu in 12 from AL good for

> > > spiritual;ity...................

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > -

> > > > > Murali Murthy <m_muraly>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Monday, September 10, 2001 8:56 PM

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > > Questions

> > > > >

> > > > > > Om Krishna Guru,

> > > > > > Namaste Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji,

> > > > > > Attached is JHD lite.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > > Murali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Sanjay Rath <srath@v...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > --------------------------

> > > > > > > Dear Muruli,

> > > > > > > Add your jhd chart. What is the link between

> > > your

> > > > > > > 7th & 8th houses? (I did a

> > > > > > > Prasna with Taurus lagna)...

> > > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > <m_muraly>

> > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > Friday, September 07, 2001 10:00 PM

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Basic

> > > Questions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A million THANKS to both Pt.Sanjay Rath

> > > and

> > > > > > > Gauranga Das. Pardon me

> > > > > > > > for asking related questions again. I am

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > understand. I also

> > > > > > > > feel like writing( expressing words in

> > > written

> > > > > > > form) always leaves

> > > > > > > > room for doubts as it does not give the

> > > intent

> > > > > > > completely. That's why

> > > > > > > > I am convinced in my mind that Shruti is

> > > anyday

> > > > > > > better than Smriti.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1> Gauranga's point of What else would

> > > Bhagvan do

> > > > > > > except playing

> > > > > > > > games somehow does not seem right to me.

> > > Also

> > > > > > > going to Pt. Sanjay

> > > > > > > > Rath's point of imbalances of the gunas

> > > gives rise

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

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> > Donate cash, emergency relief information

> > http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/

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